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A91314 A vindication of foure serious questions of grand importance, concerning excommunication and suspention from the sacrament of the Lords Supper, from some misprisions and unjust exceptions lately taken against them; both in the pulpit, by a reverend brother of Scotland, in a sermon at Margarets Church in Westminster, before the Honourable House of Commons, at a publike fast there held for Scotland, on the 5th of September last: and in the presse, by three new-printed pamphlets, by way of answer to, and censure of them. Wherein some scripture texts, (commonly reproduced for excommunication, and bare suspention from the Lords Supper onely,) are cleared from false glosses, inferences, conclusions wrested from them; ... / By William Prynne of Lincolns Inne, Esquire. Prynne, William, 1600-1669. 1645 (1645) Wing P4124; Thomason E265_5; ESTC R212424 79,558 71

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be●ause_v such_o obstinate_a scandalous_a sinner_n as_o experience_n teach●s_v make_v no_o great_a conscience_n at_o all_o of_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n from_o which_o for_o the_o most_o part_n they_o voluntary_o suspend_v themselves_o for_o sundry_a month_n nay_o year_n together_o out_o of_o mere_a profaneness_n in_o case_n they_o may_v be_v free_o admit_v to_o other_o public_a ordinance_n it_o be_v only_o the_o total_a exclusion_n from_o the_o church_n and_o all_o christian_a society_n not_o any_o bare_a su●pension_n from_o the_o sacrament_n which_o work_v both_o shame_n and_o remorse_n in_o excomunicate_a person_n as_o paul_n resolve_v 1_o thes._n 3._o 14._o 1_o cor_n 5._o 13._o compare_v with_o the_o 1_o cor._n 5._o 1._o to_o 11._o second_o because_o we_o find_v this_o a_o experimental_a verity_n that_o the_o most_o profane_a and_o scandalous_a sinner_n that_o be_v when_o they_o intend_v to_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n will_v many_o of_o they_o like_o loose_a c_o r●lat●●●_z 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it_o no_o private_a christian_n as_o they_o affirm_v have_v any_o authority_n to_o esteem_v his_o brother_n as_o a_o heathen_a and_o publican_n if_o the_o church_n have_v not_o first_o cast_v he_o out_o for_o than_o he_o may_v esteem_v one_o man_n of_o the_o congregation_n thus_o and_o after_o that_o another_o and_o so_o all_o the_o membet_n of_o it_o and_o at_o last_o the_o whole_a church_n by_o degree_n by_o his_o own_o authority_n which_o to_o do_v say_v they_o be_v a_o great_a absurdity_n sin_n and_o inconvenience_n but_o this_o reason_n under_o correction_n be_v very_o infirm_a inconcludent_a if_o not_o false_a and_o absurd_a for_o first_o heathen_n be_v no_o excommunicate_a person_n be_v never_o member_n of_o the_o jewish_a or_o christian_a church_n and_o therefore_o uncapable_a of_o any_o excommunication_n out_o of_o it_o excommunication_n be_v peculiar_a only_o to_o church-member_n as_o st._n paul_n express_o determine_v 1_o cor._n 5_o 10_o 11_o 12._o and_o aretius_n in_o his_o definition_n of_o excommunication_n cite_v in_o the_o first_o question_n and_o as_o for_o publican_n if_o they_o be_v not_o heathen_n but_o jew_n as_o e_o 3._o some_o of_o they_o be_v we_o never_o find_v they_o excommunicate_v from_o any_o of_o god_n ordinan●es_n as_o they_o be_v publican_n but_o partaker_n of_o they_o to_o make_v then_o a_o excommunicate_a person_n and_o a_o heathen_a a_o publican_n synonimae_n be_v at_o best_a a_o incongruity_n if_o not_o a_o contradiction_n second_o the_o genuine_a sense_n of_o this_o expression_n not_o elsewhere_o use_v in_o scripture_n and_o f_o ●_z no_o form_n at_o all_o of_o any_o excomuni●ation_n practise_v by_o the_o jew_n let_v he_o be_v to_o thou_o a_o heathen_a and_o a_o publican_n in_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o best_a interpreter_n be_v no_o more_o but_o this_o keep_v not_o any_o familiar_a company_n or_o have_v no_o civil_a fellowship_n with_o he_o but_o avoid_v his_o company_n and_o fellowship_n as_o paul_n express_o interpret_v it_o elsewhere_o 1_o cor._n 5._o 10_o 11_o 12._o 2_o thes._n 3._o 14._o eph._n 5._o 11._o rom._n 16._o 17._o or_o receive_v he_o not_o into_o thy_o house_n neither_o bid_v he_o god_n speed_n as_o st._n john_n render_v it_o 2_o john_n 10._o which_o phrase_n be_v derive_v from_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o pharise_n in_o that_o age_n who_o shun_v the_o very_a company_n of_o heathen_n and_o publican_n not_o in_o public_a ordinance_n or_o sacrament_n in_o which_o heathen_n certain_o have_v no_o communion_n or_o society_n with_o they_o be_v no_o member_n of_o their_o church_n but_o only_o in_o civil_a conversation_n whereupon_o they_o tax_v christ_n for_o keep_v compavy_a with_o publican_n and_o sinner_n mat._n 9_o 10_o 11._o ch._n 11._o 19_o ch._n 21._o 31._o 32._o mark_n 2._o 15_o 16._o luke_n 18._o 11_o 12_o 13._o ch._n 15._o 1_o 2._o though_o some_o of_o they_o beleevee_a on_o and_o receive_v he_o when_o the_o scribe_n and_o pharise_n who_o disdain_v their_o company_n do_v reject_v he_o luke_n 7._o 29._o ch._n 15._o 2_o 2_o 3._o ch._n 19_o 2._o to_o 12._o mat._n 21._o 31_o 32._o and_o as_o the_o jew_n then_o avoid_v all_o civil_a familiar_a society_n with_o publican_n g_o 2_o who_o they_o general_o hate_v for_o their_o covetousness_n and_o extortion_n so_o also_o with_o heathen_n with_o who_o they_o may_v not_o inter_v marry_o nor_o familiar_o converse_v deut._n 7._o 2_o 4._o josh._n 24._o 12_o 13_o neh._n 13._o 27._o to_o 31._o ezr._n ch._n 9_o and_o 10._o ps._n 116._o 34_o 35._o act._n 21._o 28_o 29._o whence_o we_o read_v the_o jew_n have_v no_o deal_n or_o conversation_n with_o the_o samaritan_n john_n 4_o 9_o nor_o they_o with_o the_o jew_n luke_n 9_o 52_o 53._o if_o then_o let_v he_o be_v to_o thou_o as_o a_o heathen_a and_o a_o publican_n be_v no_o more_o then_o keep_v not_o civil_a company_n fellowship_n or_o familiar_a conversation_n with_o he_o who_o obstinate_o trespass_v against_o thou_o after_o private_a admonition_n and_o public_a complaint_n or_o avoid_v intimate_a familiarity_n with_o he_o then_o every_o christian_n have_v free_a power_n by_o god_n word_n to_o do_v this_o without_o any_o danger_n of_o sin_n or_o scandal_n before_o any_o private_a or_o public_a censure_n of_o excommuncation_n pass_v against_o he_o by_o the_o church_n as_o be_v clear_a by_o 1_o cor._n 5._o 9_o 11._o 2_o thes._n 3._o 14._o rom._n 16._o 17._o pro._n 22._o 24_o 25._o ps._n 101._o 4_o 5_o 7._o 2_o tim._n 3._o 2_o 3_o 4_o 5._o 2_o john_n 10._o 11._o therefore_o by_o the_o selfsame_a reason_n may_v he_o avoid_v the_o company_n of_o any_o other_o brother_n or_o the_o member_n of_o a_o whole_a particular_a congregation_n several_o without_o sin_n or_o guilt_n if_o he_o or_o they_o continue_v impenitent_a in_o the_o case_n of_o private_a injury_n or_o trespass_n against_o he_o after_o admonition_n wherefore_o this_o answer_n of_o they_o be_v both_o erroneous_a and_o impertinent_a now_o that_o this_o text_n of_o matthew_n so_o much_o insist_v on_o be_v not_o mean_v of_o excommunication_n or_o church-censure_n and_o that_o the_o h_o 17._o church_n in_o this_o text_n be_v not_o any_o ecclesiastical_a consistory_n but_o only_o the_o i_o direction_n sa●hedrim_n or_o court_n of_o civil_a justice_n among_o the_o jew_n common_o call_v the_o council_n in_o other_o text_n be_v apparent_a to_o i_o for_o these_o ensue_a reason_n never_o yet_o answer_v by_o the_o opposite_n first_o because_o it_o speak_v not_o at_o all_o of_o any_o public_a scandalous_a sin_n against_o the_o church_n or_o congregation_n the_o proper_a object_n of_o church-censur_n but_o only_o of_o pr●vate_a civil_a trespass_n between_o man_n and_o man_n as_o be_v evident_a by_o the_o word_n if_o thy_o brother_n trespass_n against_o thou_o go_v and_o tell_v he_o his_o fault_n between_o he_o and_o thou_o etc._n etc._n which_o saint_n luke_n relate_v without_o any_o die_fw-la ecclesi●_z luke_n 17._o 3_o 4._o put_v out_o of_o question_n if_o compare_v with_o gen._n 52._o 31._o 1_o sam._n 25._o 28._o now_o the_o puni●hment_n of_o such_o trespass_n belong_v proper_o to_o their_o temporal_a magistrate_n not_o to_o their_o ecclesiastical_a consistory_n as_o the_o 1_o sam._n 2._o 29._o deut._n 10._o 16_o 18_o 19_o 20._o ch._n 25._o 1_o 2._o 2_o chron._n 19_o 9_o 6._o exod._n 21._o 6._o 22._o chap._n 22._o 8_o 9_o prove_v second_o because_o the_o follow_a word_n ver._n 16._o if_o he_o refuse_v to_o hear_v thou_o take_v with_o the●_z one_o or_o two_o more_o that_o in_o the_o mouth_n of_o two_o or_o three_o witness_n every_o word_n may_v be_v establish_v relate_v only_o to_o the_o manner_n of_o try_v civil_a capital_a crime_n as_o murder_n and_o the_o like_a before_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n of_o the_o jew_n which_o be_v by_o two_o or_o three_o witness_n num._n 25._o 30._o deut._n 17._o 6_o 7._o chap._n 19_o 5_o 6._o not_o to_o any_o proceed_n in_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n in_o their_o ecclesiastical_a consistory_n of_o which_o we_o find_v no_o 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