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A80160 Responsoria bipartita, sive vindiciæ suspensionis ecclesiasticæ ut et presbyterii evangelici. A double reply, containing a vindication of the antient practice of the Church (according to the rule of the word) suspending the ignorant and scandalous from the Lords Supper. As also of ecclesiastical presbyteries ... The first in answer to one M. Boatmans challenge of all the ministers on earth to make suspension of any but Turks, Jews, pagans and excommunicate persons from the Lords Supper, appear from Scriptures. In answer to whom the said censure is justified by several arguments from Scripture, and the universal practice of the Church, the magisterial vanity also of his sermon, Decem. 13. and March 28. in Peters Church in Norwich is discovered, ... In which answer also some objections of Erastus, Mr. Prin, and Mr. Humfry, are coilaterally considered, and answered. The second part in answer to Theophilus Brabourn, who hath talked something in a little pamphlet against the Lord Jesus Christ ... / By John Collings, B.D. and pastor of the church of Christ in Stephens parish in Norwich. Collinges, John, 1623-1690. 1655 (1655) Wing C5333; Thomason E832_2; ESTC R207514 201,020 319

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duty_n for_o they_o shall_v have_v admonish_v he_o and_o be_v under_o censure_n suspend_v he_o till_o he_o have_v satisfy_v the_o church_n last_o 4._o the_o fellowship_n of_o the_o church_n in_o general_n be_v pollute_v the_o apostle_n teach_v we_o 1_o cor._n 5._o that_o the_o continue_v of_o one_o scandalous_a person_n in_o the_o bosom_n of_o the_o church_n leaven_n the_o whole_a lump_n the_o neglect_n of_o a_o private_a member_n redound_v indeed_o but_o to_o his_o own_o guilt_n and_o defilement_n but_o the_o neglect_n of_o the_o officer_n of_o a_o church_n redound_v to_o the_o guilt_n and_o defilement_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o just_o 1._o partly_o because_o they_o be_v the_o representative_a part_n of_o the_o church_n 2._o because_o it_o be_v in_o the_o church_n power_n to_o remove_v they_o if_o not_o in_o the_o power_n of_o a_o congregationall_a church_n yet_o in_o the_o power_n of_o a_o synodical_a church_n but_o i_o shall_v enlarge_v no_o further_o on_o this_o argument_n chap._n viii_o wherein_o by_o a_o seven_o argument_n the_o lawfulness_n of_o suspension_n be_v prove_v because_o there_o can_v lie_v no_o obligation_n upon_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n to_o give_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n to_o such_o as_o visible_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o receive_v argument_n 7._o either_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n to_o deny_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n to_o such_o as_o they_o find_v ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a and_o impenitent_a or_o they_o be_v bind_v to_o give_v it_o to_o such_o but_o they_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o give_v it_o to_o any_o such_o ergo_fw-la the_o major_n be_v unquestionable_o evident_a the_o minor_a be_v to_o be_v prove_v which_o i_o prove_v thus_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o administer_v the_o ordinance_n to_o those_o who_o they_o know_v be_v not_o bind_v to_o receive_v it_o but_o gross_o ignorant_a and_o impenitent_a scandalous_a sinner_n be_v visible_o such_o as_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o receive_v it_o ergo._n i_o shall_v first_o open_v and_o prove_v the_o major_n and_o then_o come_v to_o the_o minor_n 1._o i_o grant_v that_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n may_v be_v bind_v to_o administer_v a_o ordinance_n to_o such_o a_o one_o as_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o receive_v it_o because_o he_o may_v otherwise_o appear_v to_o he_o and_o his_o unworthiness_n may_v be_v hide_v from_o he_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o hold_v out_o the_o promise_n as_o a_o object_n of_o faith_n to_o all_o who_o appear_v to_o have_v their_o heart_n smite_v with_o the_o sense_n of_o sin_n though_o some_o of_o they_o be_v hypocrite_n we_o know_v not_o who_o be_v so_o 2._o but_o it_o seem_v strange_a to_o i_o consider_v that_o a_o minister_n give_v the_o sacrament_n and_o the_o people_n receive_v be_v relate_v act_n that_o a_o minister_n shall_v be_v bind_v to_o give_v to_o such_o as_o he_o know_v be_v not_o bind_v to_o receive_v can_v any_o one_o think_v that_o there_o shall_v lie_v a_o obligation_n upon_o we_o to_o preach_v to_o our_o people_n if_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o there_o lie_v no_o obligation_n upon_o they_o to_o hear_v now_o i_o assume_v but_o gross_o ignorant_a and_o impenitent_a scandalous_a sinner_n be_v such_o as_o visible_o appear_v not_o bind_v to_o receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n ergo._n that_o a_o gross_o ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a impenitent_a sinner_n while_o such_o be_v bind_v to_o receive_v than_o he_o be_v bind_v to_o make_v himself_o guilty_a of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n to_o eat_v and_o drink_v his_o own_o damnation_n to_o run_v upon_o the_o hazard_n of_o be_v make_v sick_a and_o weak_a and_o fall_v asleep_o which_o be_v all_o strange_a thing_n for_o a_o man_n to_o be_v bind_v in_o conscience_n unto_o let_v none_o think_v to_o avoid_v this_o argument_n by_o say_v they_o be_v bind_v first_o to_o repent_v and_o then_o to_o receive_v so_o that_o their_o sin_n do_v not_o lie_v in_o receive_v but_o in_o not_o repent_v this_o be_v plain_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o question_n be_v whether_o the_o ignorant_a and_o impenitent_a while_o such_o if_o not_o cast_v out_o be_v bind_v to_o receive_v and_o it_o be_v a_o beg_v the_o question_n to_o say_v they_o sin_n in_o not_o repent_v but_o not_o in_o receive_v in_o receive_v say_v the_o apostle_n they_o make_v themselves_o guilty_a of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o they_o eat_v and_o drink_v their_o own_o damnation_n and_o sure_o if_o such_o sinner_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o receive_v the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n can_v be_v bind_v to_o give_v the_o ordinance_n to_o they_o the_o cease_n of_o their_o obligation_n in_o reason_n must_v also_o suspend_v he_o chap._n ix_o wherein_o a_o eight_o and_o nine_o argument_n be_v bring_v to_o prove_v that_o suspension_n distinct_a from_o excommunication_n be_v justifiable_a from_o scripture_n and_o sound_a reason_n argument_n 8._o if_o none_o may_v be_v suspend_v from_o the_o sacrament_n but_o those_o who_o be_v excommunicate_v than_o none_o must_v be_v keep_v away_o but_o those_o who_o be_v contumacious_a but_o some_o may_v be_v keep_v away_o that_o be_v not_o contumacious_a ergo._n the_o major_n be_v plain_a 1._o from_o scripture_n mat._n 18._o none_o must_v be_v account_v as_o a_o heathen_a or_o a_o publican_n but_o he_o who_o refuse_v to_o hear_v the_o church_n thus_o also_o divine_v general_o determine_v so_o bonaventure_n estius_n aquinas_n suarez_n durandus_fw-la beside_o a_o numberless_a number_n of_o protestant_a divine_n the_o minor_a only_o need_v proof_n 1._o sure_o those_o that_o be_v under_o admonition_n ought_v to_o be_v keep_v away_o though_o as_o yet_o they_o declare_v no_o contumacy_n and_o it_o be_v uncertain_a whether_o they_o will_v or_o no._n 2._o suppose_v one_o shall_v come_v to_o the_o minister_n the_o morning_n he_o be_v to_o receive_v and_o blaspheme_v christ_n and_o tell_v he_o he_o come_v for_o nothing_o but_o to_o abuse_v the_o church_n ought_v this_o man_n to_o be_v admit_v think_v we_o suppose_v one_o shall_v come_v drink_v shall_v he_o be_v admit_v mr_n humphrey_n say_v not_o what_o mr_n boatman_n think_v in_o that_o case_n i_o can_v tell_v if_o he_o shall_v not_o then_o there_o be_v suspension_n distinct_a from_o excommunication_n suppose_v a_o minister_n shall_v know_v one_o of_o his_o communicant_n have_v commit_v murder_n theft_n incest_n whoredom_n the_o night_n before_o according_a to_o m_o boatman_n doctrine_n he_o must_v be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n table_n for_o suspension_n of_o any_o person_n not_o excommunicate_v be_v a_o pharisaical_a dream_n suppose_v a_o minister_n upon_o examination_n find_v that_o his_o communicant_a do_v not_o know_v whether_o christ_n be_v god_n or_o man_n a_o man_n or_o a_o woman_n nor_o any_o thing_n of_o the_o story_n of_o the_o gospel_n must_v he_o be_v admit_v too_o he_o be_v neither_o turk_n nor_o jew_n nor_o pagan_a nor_o excommunicate_v person_n ergo_fw-la he_o be_v holy_a and_o must_v come_v a_o doctrine_n sure_a that_o every_o one_o who_o have_v any_o thing_n of_o god_n in_o he_o will_v see_v the_o folly_n and_o filth_n of_o and_o which_o no_o sober_a pious_a or_o learned_a man_n ever_o yet_o dare_v undertake_v to_o defend_v and_o it_o be_v a_o shame_n it_o shall_v be_v name_v among_o christian_n if_o profane_a argument_n 9_o scandalous_a person_n though_o circumcise_a and_o not_o cast_v out_o of_o the_o jewish_a church_n nor_o legal_o unclean_a be_v yet_o to_o be_v debar_v from_o some_o ordinance_n and_o the_o passeover_n than_o such_o though_o baptise_a and_o not_o excommunicate_v may_v be_v suspend_v from_o the_o lord_n supper_n but_o profane_v scandalous_a person_n though_o circumcise_a and_o not_o cast_v out_o of_o the_o jewish_a church_n nor_o
to_o keep_v the_o feast_n not_o with_o the_o leaven_a bread_n of_o malice_n and_o wickedness_n and_o forbid_v he_o to_o eat_v with_o brethren_n who_o be_v fornicatour_n etc._n etc._n give_v he_o power_n etc._n etc._n but_o it_o be_v object_v ob._n 1._o suspension_n be_v a_o act_n of_o jurisdiction_n act_n of_o jurisdiction_n belong_v to_o the_o church_n now_o the_o single_a minister_n be_v not_o the_o church_n sol._n 1._o that_o juridical_a suspension_n be_v a_o church_n censure_n and_o a_o act_n of_o jurisdiction_n i_o yield_v but_o whether_o this_o suspension_n of_o which_o i_o speak_v be_v i_o question_v mr_n jeanes_n think_v the_o schoolman_n be_v out_o in_o determine_v that_o it_o be_v not_o but_o i_o can_v whole_o close_v with_o he_o juridical_o suspension_n be_v a_o positive_a act_n of_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n determine_v the_o party_n at_o present_a unworthy_a of_o that_o ecclesiastical_a communion_n this_o be_v but_o a_o negative_a or_o privative_a act_n wherein_o the_o minister_n not_o pass_v any_o formal_a censure_n upon_o he_o but_o refer_v he_o for_o that_o to_o the_o presbytery_n to_o be_v judge_v at_o present_a forbear_v his_o own_o act_n of_o administer_a the_o ordinance_n to_o he_o judge_v he_o in_o his_o own_o conscience_n such_o a_o one_o as_o be_v the_o jure_v to_o be_v suspend_v and_o be_v ready_a to_o submit_v himself_o to_o any_o superior_a presbytery_n to_o who_o the_o party_n shall_v appeal_v 2._o it_o be_v grant_v that_o in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la constitu●a_fw-la in_o a_o form_v organise_v church_n no_o kind_n of_o censure_n shall_v be_v pass_v but_o by_o the_o presbytery_n the_o eldership_n of_o the_o church_n but_o in_o a_o disorder_a church_n i_o humble_o conceive_v some_o act_n may_v be_v justifiable_o do_v that_o may_v look_v like_o censure_n by_o the_o minister_n plebe_n non_fw-la rationaliter_fw-la dissentiente_fw-la at_o least_o by_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n or_o the_o church_n not_o dissent_v upon_o good_a ground_n 3._o that_o the_o minister_n be_v not_o in_o one_o sense_n the_o church_n viz._n all_o the_o officer_n that_o belong_v to_o a_o right_o order_v church_n be_v grant_v but_o whether_o in_o some_o case_n of_o necessity_n the_o single_a minister_n may_v not_o be_v the_o church_n viz._n the_o whole_a roll_a part_n of_o it_o and_o in_o power_n in_o such_o case_n to_o some_o act_n of_o rule_n i_o think_v may_v be_v question_v all_o will_v grant_v that_o he_o be_v a_o roll_a as_o well_o as_o a_o teach_n elder_a now_o if_o there_o be_v such_o a_o case_n that_o through_o death_n removal_n or_o any_o defect_n that_o he_o shall_v be_v lest_o alone_a and_o have_v no_o elder_n i_o can_v think_v that_o his_o power_n of_o rule_n must_v whole_o sleep_v till_o his_o fellow-ruler_n be_v recover_v so_o that_o in_o some_o sense_n he_o may_v be_v call_v the_o church_n i_o conceive_v which_o be_v no_o more_o by_o interpretation_n than_o that_o he_o be_v at_o that_o present_a the_o whole_a roll_a part_n of_o the_o church_n 4._o tell_v the_o church_n mat._n 18._o be_v chief_o mean_v in_o order_n to_o the_o great_a excommunication_n in_o which_o the_o sinner_n be_v make_v as_o a_o heathen_a and_o publican_n 5._o again_o admonition_n be_v a_o church_n censure_n yet_o we_o allow_v not_o only_o a_o private_a fraternal_a correption_n but_o also_o a_o pastoral_a admonition_n which_o be_v quiddam_fw-la majus_fw-la and_o i_o see_v no_o reason_n why_o in_o such_o case_n of_o necessity_n as_o these_o where_o either_o such_o a_o course_n must_v be_v take_v or_o this_o great_a ordinance_n whole_o omit_v or_o profane_v we_o may_v not_o also_o allow_v of_o pastoral_a suspension_n object_n 2._o a_o second_o objection_n mr_n jeanes_n make_v viz._n that_o all_o our_o argument_n to_o justify_v the_o unlawfulnesse_n of_o a_o minister_n give_v the_o sacrament_n to_o such_o as_o he_o know_v to_o be_v scandalous_a will_v fail_v we_o in_o two_o case_n in_o presbyterated_a church_n 1._o in_o case_n the_o major_a part_n of_o the_o eldership_n will_v acquit_v the_o scandalous_a sinner_n than_o he_o say_v we_o grant_v the_o minister_n may_v admit_v they_o or_o 2._o in_o case_n the_o scandal_n be_v know_v to_o the_o minister_n alone_o and_o no_o proof_n can_v be_v make_v and_o the_o party_n will_v not_o confess_v sol._n i_o must_v confess_v these_o be_v two_o hard_a case_n and_o the_o only_a hard_a case_n i_o know_v which_o can_v be_v put_v as_o to_o this_o point_n 1._o but_o who_o be_v they_o that_o have_v be_v so_o free_a of_o their_o confession_n to_o grant_v that_o in_o cafe_z a_o eldership_n will_v contrary_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o their_o pastor_n and_o direct_o contrary_a to_o the_o rule_n justify_v the_o wicked_a the_o minister_n ought_v to_o give_v the_o sacrament_n to_o they_o i_o can_v tell_v suppose_v one_o be_v prove_v to_o have_v commit_v incest_n the_o night_n before_o the_o sacrament_n and_o stand_v to_o justify_v it_o and_o the_o minister_n call_v his_o eldership_n and_o prove_v the_o fact_n to_o they_o and_o they_o in_o a_o faction_n will_v acquit_v he_o shall_v this_o minister_n be_v bind_v to_o administer_v the_o ordinance_n to_o this_o wretch_n i_o hope_v mr_n jeanes_n shall_v never_o persuade_v i_o to_o that_o faith_n no_o but_o it_o be_v my_o duty_n in_o such_o or_o such_o like_a evident_a case_n to_o forbear_v any_o administration_n and_o appeal_v from_o the_o congregationall_a to_o the_o classical_a presbytery_n and_o if_o that_o will_v not_o relieve_v he_o from_o thence_o to_o the_o provincial_n and_o from_o thence_o if_o need_v be_v to_o a_o nationall_n assembly_n it_o be_v to_o be_v hope_v that_o by_o some_o of_o these_o he_o will_v be_v relieve_v if_o not_o i_o shall_v think_v it_o my_o duty_n to_o submit_v to_o their_o censure_n rather_o than_o profane_v god_n ordinance_n and_o wait_v till_o god_n reform_v such_o church_n if_o the_o case_n be_v doubtful_a the_o matter_n differ_v but_o where_o the_o rule_n plain_o judge_v 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common_a good_a 117._o mr_n jeanes_n p._n 116_o 117._o and_o convenient_a order_n both_o of_o church_n and_o commonwealth_n that_o all_o common_a favour_n which_o be_v public_o to_o be_v dispense_v and_o distribute_v according_a to_o the_o dignity_n of_o private_a person_n shall_v be_v dispense_v by_o public_a person_n design_v thereto_o not_o according_a to_o the_o private_a knowledge_n of_o this_o or_o that_o man_n neither_o of_o that_o minister_n but_o according_a to_o a_o public_a and_o notorious_a cognisance_n and_o whosoever_o do_v by_o his_o offence_n against_o god_n suarez_n this_o be_v not_o a_o literal_a translation_n of_o suarez_n lose_v his_o right_n and_o interest_n to_o the_o holy_a thing_n of_o god_n he_o must_v lose_v it_o in_o the_o face_n of_o the_o church_n before_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v he_o in_o the_o face_n of_o the_o congregation_n and_o he_o be_v to_o be_v judge_v as_o in_o all_o other_o case_n not_o by_o any_o man_n nor_o by_o any_o minister_n private_a 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four_o sort_n all_o of_o which_o be_v keep_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n from_o the_o lord_n table_n at_o least_o all_o but_o their_o four_o degree_n of_o penitent_n can_v be_v prove_v from_o scripture_n but_o in_o his_o fifteen_o section_n move_v this_o question_n what_o shall_v be_v do_v in_o reference_n to_o scandalous_a sinner_n if_o the_o community_n refuse_v to_o consent_v to_o their_o excommunication_n he_o answer_v saltem_fw-la id_fw-la curandum_fw-la esse_fw-la ut_fw-la damnatis_fw-la atque_fw-la convictis_fw-la de_fw-la publicis_fw-la &_o manifestis_fw-la criminibus_fw-la pastor_n sacramenta_fw-la non_fw-la distribuat_fw-la care_v at_o least_o must_v be_v take_v that_o the_o pastor_n do_v not_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n to_o such_o as_o be_v convict_v of_o gross_a sin_n from_o whence_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o he_o judge_v some_o that_o may_v be_v keep_v from_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n who_o be_v not_o excommunicate_v and_o that_o reverend_a man_n judgement_n be_v not_o so_o clear_o to_o be_v judge_v from_o his_o common_a place_n which_o be_v collect_v out_o of_o his_o work_n by_o other_o and_o by_o they_o publish_v as_o by_o the_o book_n call_v reformatio_fw-la legum_fw-la ecclesiasticarum_fw-la of_o which_o more_o anon_o in_o the_o next_o place_n let_v we_o hear_v what_o polanus_fw-la thought_n etc._n polan_n syntag._n theol_n l._n 7._o c._n 18._o abstentio_fw-la publica_fw-la usurpatur_fw-la cum_fw-la coram_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la jubetur_fw-la abstinere_fw-la sacrae_fw-la coenae_fw-la usu_fw-la be_v qui_fw-la contra_fw-la privatum_fw-la interdictum_fw-la aliis_fw-la ad_fw-la mensam_fw-la domini_fw-la accedentibus_fw-la se_fw-la ingerit_fw-la etc._n etc._n who_o judgement_n the_o reader_n shall_v find_v in_o the_o second_o part_n of_o his_o syntagma_n l._n 7._o c._n 18._o where_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o public_a censure_n of_o the_o church_n be_v three_o 1._o admonitio_fw-la 2._o abstentio_fw-la 3._o excommunicatio_fw-la admonition_n suspension_n and_o excommunication_n public_a suspension_n say_v he_o be_v when_o in_o the_o face_n of_o the_o church_n he_o be_v command_v to_o abstain_v from_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n who_o either_o against_o a_o private_a prohibition_n intrude_v or_o who_o sin_n be_v so_o scandalous_a that_o the_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n can_v without_o scandal_n to_o the_o faithful_a administer_v the_o sacrament_n to_o he_o so_o ambrose_n suspend_v the_o great_a emperor_n theodosius_n come_v we_o now_o to_o learned_a and_o reverend_a zanchy_a who_o have_v a_o large_a discourse_n upon_o this_o point_n in_o his_o first_o book_n of_o epistle_n ib._n zanch._n in_o epist_n l._n 1._o in_o ep_n ad_fw-la ferd_n tert_n a●quorum_fw-la peccata_fw-la sunt_fw-la omnibus_fw-la nota_fw-la &_o quorum_fw-la etiam_fw-la pertinacia_fw-la nemini_fw-la est_fw-la ignot_n a●bos_fw-la ex_fw-la verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la cum_fw-la totá_fw-la vetustate_fw-la &_o doctissim_fw-la be_v quibusque_fw-la nostri_fw-la saeculi_fw-la contendimus_fw-la ad_fw-la coonam_fw-la domini_fw-la minimè_fw-la esse_fw-la admittendos_fw-la ib._n in_o a_o epistle_n to_o fredericus_fw-la tertius_fw-la where_o he_o determine_v that_o excommunication_n be_v to_o proceed_v only_o in_o case_n of_o contumacy_n but_o confirm_v the_o keep_n away_o of_o scandalous_a and_o impenitent_a sinner_n by_o thirteen_o argument_n and_o say_v they_o be_v egregious_o charitable_a who_o will_v have_v none_o keep_v away_o and_o determine_v the_o admission_n of_o the_o profane_a to_o be_v against_o piety_n and_o charity_n and_o answer_v the_o trite_a objection_n of_o judas_n his_o receive_n and_o from_o that_o place_n let_v a_o man_n examine_v himself_o ergo_fw-la none_o else_o may_v examine_v he_o and_o determine_v the_o admission_n of_o the_o profane_a 1._o against_o the_o will_n of_o god_n 2._o a_o profanation_n of_o the_o sacrament_n 2._o a_o scandal_n to_o the_o church_n in_o short_a say_v he_o for_o those_o who_o sin_n and_o who_o obstinacy_n in_o sin_v be_v know_v to_o all_o we_o contend_v both_o in_o the_o behalf_n of_o god_n word_n and_o according_a to_o all_o antiquity_n and_o all_o the_o learned_a of_o our_o age_n that_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n table_n he_o produce_v the_o authority_n of_o justin_n martyr_n chrysostome_n in_o several_a place_n cyprian_a etc._n etc._n in_o the_o next_o place_n let_v we_o hear_v the_o judgement_n of_o reverend_a danaeus_n 53._o l●●●bert_n daneus_n in_o isagoge_n christ_n p._n 3_o c._n 59_o p_o 4._o l._n 5._o c._n 53._o and_o that_o may_v be_v read_v plain_a enough_o in_o the_o three_o part_n of_o his_o isagoge_n christiana_n cap._n 59_o where_o he_o distinguish_v the_o public_a censure_n of_o the_o church_n into_o admonition_n suspension_n from_o the_o lord_n table_n and_o excommunication_n and_o in_o his_o four_o part_n and_o five_o book_n cap._n 53._o he_o sufficient_o prove_v that_o the_o ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a be_v to_o 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antiquity_n what_o be_v bucanus_n his_o judgement_n be_v evident_a enough_o from_o his_o institution_n in_o his_o 44._o common_a place_n he_o propound_v this_o as_o his_o ten_o question_n quot_fw-la sunt_fw-la part_n sive_fw-la gradus_fw-la ecclesiasticae_fw-la correctionis_fw-la how_o many_o degree_n be_v there_o of_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n he_o answers_z three_z 1._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d seu_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d admonition_n 2._o exclusio_fw-la seu_fw-la abstentio_fw-la etc._n etc._n etc._n bucan_n inflit_fw-la theol_fw-it loc_fw-la 44._o q._n 10_o etc._n etc._n suspension_n from_o the_o lord_n supper_n for_o a_o time_n 3._o excommunication_n of_o which_o see_v more_o there_o so_o that_o it_o be_v plain_a he_o also_o think_v there_o be_v such_o a_o thing_n as_o suspension_n distinct_a from_o excommunication_n viz._n absolute_a excommunication_n reverend_a and_o learned_a beza_n judgement_n be_v so_o know_v that_o i_o need_v quote_v nothing_o out_o of_o 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