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A62665 The bar to free admission to the Lords Supper removed, or, A vindication of Mr. Humfreys free admission to the sacrament of the Lords Supper wherein the most materiall exceptions and objections of Doctor Drake against it in his book called A bar to free admission &c. are taken off and answered : whereunto is annexed an expostulatory speech unto them of the Congragationall way : and also an examination of the book called A Scripture rail to the communion table, by some ministers in Glocester-shire / by John Timson. Timson, John. 1654 (1654) Wing T1293; ESTC R25821 78,655 229

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