desert_n of_o church-censure_n which_o be_v manifest_o the_o case_n of_o the_o person_n describe_v in_o the_o synod_n five_o proposition_n and_o then_o all_o the_o discourse_n in_o answer_n to_o this_o objection_n wherein_o not_o a_o little_a confidence_n and_o spirit_n be_v express_v fall_v to_o the_o ground_n as_o not_o reach_v the_o case_n in_o hand_n though_o beside_o there_o be_v sundry_a mistake_n in_o it_o as_o may_v after_o appear_v for_o suppose_v it_o shall_v be_v grant_v that_o in_o church_n where_o discipline_n be_v not_o in_o use_n and_o in_o a_o case_n notorious_a wherein_o a_o person_n do_v apparent_o lose_v the_o essential_o of_o christianity_n as_o by_o turn_v turk_n or_o the_o like_a a_o man_n may_v be_v cut_v off_o from_o membership_n by_o his_o own_o apostasy_n and_o wickedness_n though_o the_o church_n do_v not_o through_o her_o sinful_a neglect_n formal_o censure_v he_o yet_o this_o on_o the_o other_o hand_n be_v also_o a_o sure_a and_o clear_a truth_n that_o no_o act_n of_o a_o man_n own_o will_n or_o can_v cut_v he_o off_o from_o membership_n but_o that_o which_o deserve_v a_o cut_n off_o by_o censure_n and_o for_o which_o the_o church_n shall_v cut_v he_o off_o by_o censure_n if_o she_o do_v her_o duty_n this_o be_v plain_a because_o when_o a_o man_n be_v once_o in_o the_o church_n he_o can_v be_v out_v till_o god_n out_o he_o god_n do_v not_o out_o he_o till_o some_o rule_n or_o appointment_n of_o he_o in_o his_o word_n do_v out_o he_o but_o there_o be_v no_o rule_n that_o appoint_v any_o man_n to_o be_v put_v out_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n or_o make_v as_o a_o heathen_a and_o publican_n but_o for_o and_o upon_o such_o wickedness_n of_o his_o as_o be_v censurable_a by_o the_o church_n and_o in_o that_o case_n the_o rule_n do_v appoint_v and_o enjoin_v the_o church_n to_o censure_v he_o or_o to_o put_v he_o away_o from_o among_o they_o by_o censure_n mat._n 18.17_o 1_o cor._n 5.5_o 13._o when_o some_o divine_n do_v so_o speak_v as_o if_o person_n may_v be_v break_v off_o from_o the_o church_n without_o a_o formal_a censure_n in_o some_o extraordinary_a case_n the_o meaning_n be_v not_o that_o a_o man_n do_v by_o his_o own_o wickedness_n be_v it_o never_o so_o notorious_a immediate_o so_o become_v felo_fw-la de_fw-la se_fw-la or_o vn-member_n himself_o as_o that_o the_o church_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o he_o to_o censure_v he_o yes_o she_o may_v and_o aught_o to_o censure_v he_o for_o his_o wickedness_n and_o apostasy_n and_o so_o if_o a_o church-member_n turn_n turk_n or_o papist_n the_o church_n to_o which_o he_o belong_v aught_o to_o lay_v he_o under_o censure_n for_o it_o and_o for_o such_o a_o one_o to_o be_v a_o member_n till_o censure_v i._n e._n a_o rot_a member_n fit_a to_o be_v cut_v off_o be_v no_o contradiction_n nor_o absurdity_n see_v mr._n cotton_v holiness_n of_o church-member_n pag._n 15._o 5.11_o and_o do_v all_o church_n in_o the_o world_n do_v their_o duty_n there_o shall_v no_o man_n live_v that_o ever_o be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o church_n yet_o in_o be_v be_v look_v upon_o as_o a_o non-member_n but_o he_o that_o be_v so_o censure_v on_o excommunicate_v at_o least_o unless_o some_o extraordinary_a and_o rare_a circumstance_n of_o a_o case_n do_v render_v the_o church_n cognizance_n thereof_o impossible_a but_o the_o meaning_n only_o be_v that_o where_o man_n have_v palpable_o and_o notorious_o lose_v the_o essential_o of_o christianity_n and_o a_o church_n through_o the_o sinful_a want_n or_o neglect_v of_o discipline_n never_o look_v after_o they_o only_o by_o her_o doctrine_n declare_v against_o such_o but_o haply_o continue_v in_o that_o neglect_n from_o age_n to_o age_n there_o the_o notoriousness_n of_o the_o case_n and_o the_o evidence_n of_o the_o rule_n do_v supply_v the_o defect_n of_o a_o judicial_a sentence_n and_o the_o church_n doctrinal_a declaration_n may_v be_v look_v at_o as_o a_o implicit_a excommunication_n and_o hence_o other_o church_n may_v just_o carry_v towards_o such_o as_o non-member_n and_o hence_o also_o in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o reformation_n of_o such_o church_n after_o deep_a and_o long-continued_a corruption_n such_o person_n may_v be_v set_v by_o without_o a_o formal_a censure_n but_o what_o be_v all_o this_o to_o the_o child_n of_o our_o church_n who_o be_v admit_v in_o minority_n in_o stead_n of_o notorious_a wickedness_n and_o apostasy_n when_o grow_v up_o do_v in_o some_o measure_n own_o the_o god_n and_o covenant_n of_o their_o father_n and_o be_v neither_o cast_n out_o nor_o deserve_v so_o to_o be_v who_o no_o rule_n in_o all_o the_o scripture_n appoint_v to_o be_v put_v out_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o hence_o tâ—ey_n stand_v and_o continue_v regular_a i._n e._n according_a to_o the_o appointment_n and_o allowance_n of_o the_o rule_n member_n of_o it_o be_v neither_o excommunicate_a nor_o by_o rule_n to_o be_v excommunicate_v where_o shall_v we_o find_v either_o scripture_n or_o sound_a reason_n to_o tell_v we_o that_o these_o have_v cut_v themselves_o off_o from_o membership_n or_o be_v nâ—w_o become_v non-member_n but_o to_o come_v to_o a_o plain_a and_o distinct_a close_o in_o this_o matter_n we_o assert_v this_o position_n that_o in_o church_n waâ—â—ing_v in_o the_o order_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o exercise_v discipline_n according_a to_o the_o rule_n thereoâ—_n no_o person_n can_v while_o he_o live_v among_o they_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o by_o excommunication_n or_o without_o a_o church-act_n in_o censure_v he_o with_o the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n the_o sum_n of_o the_o proof_n of_o this_o be_v because_o we_o find_v this_o way_n of_o cessation_n of_o membership_n viz._n by_o excommunication_n plain_o prescribe_v and_o appoint_v by_o the_o lord_n in_o scripture_n and_o we_o find_v not_o any_o other_o while_o the_o church_n and_o the_o person_n continue_v in_o be_v see_v a_o more_o particular_a proof_n of_o it_o in_o the_o preface_n to_o mr._n shepard_n treatise_n of_o church-membership_a of_o child_n late_o publish_a but_o if_o any_o do_v affirm_v there_o be_v another_o way_n it_o lie_v on_o they_o to_o show_v and_o prove_v it_o let_v we_o now_o consider_v whether_o that_o be_v do_v by_o all_o that_o be_v here_o further_o say_v preface_n when_o whitgift_n say_v that_o papist_n and_o atheist_n may_v still_o remain_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n mr._n parker_n tell_v he_o that_o even_o a_o veritius_fw-la will_v condemn_v he_o and_o it_o be_v no_o new_a doctrine_n in_o the_o school_n to_o say_v that_o a_o heretical_a apostate_n be_v no_o more_o a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n than_o a_o wound_n a_o sâ—re_n a_o brand_n be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o man_n as_o eâ—ery_o one_o know_v that_o be_v mediocritèr_fw-la doctus_fw-la in_o scholasiiâ—al_a divinity_n therefore_o we_o conclude_v that_o church-member_n may_v become_v no_o member_n by_o their_o own_o defection_n ans._n sure_o he_o that_o be_v but_o mediâ—critèr_fw-la doctus_fw-la in_o scholastical_a or_o chemical_a divinity_n may_v easy_o know_v that_o here_o be_v the_o show_n of_o a_o argument_n or_o of_o authority_n of_o writer_n witâ—_n out_o the_o substance_n of_o either_o for_o when_o our_o divine_n against_o the_o papist_n do_v so_o often_o over_o say_v that_o wicked_a or_o unregenerate_a person_n be_v but_o equivocal_o or_o improper_o member_n of_o the_o church_n as_o nail_n haâ—r_n sore_n and_o superfluous_a hu_o â—urs_n or_o as_o a_o wooden_a leg._n a_o glass_n eye_n etc._n etc._n be_v member_n of_o the_o live_a body_n of_o a_o man_n they_o mean_v it_o proper_o with_o reference_n to_o the_o invisible_a mystical_a church_n or_o to_o the_o visible_a church_n consider_v in_o its_o internal_a spiritual_a live_a state_n 1113._o not_o with_o reference_n to_o man_n external_a stand_n or_o membership_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n nor_o do_v they_o ever_o dream_v that_o man_n be_v by_o the_o want_n of_o internal_a gracious_a qualification_n cut_v off_o from_o membership_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n without_o any_o church-censure_n it_o be_v well_o know_v that_o they_o reckon_v hypocrite_n and_o secret_o unregenerate_a person_n as_o well_o as_o heretical_a apostate_n or_o the_o openly-wicked_n to_o be_v but_o equivocaliy_v of_o the_o church_n viz._n in_o comparison_n and_o contradistinction_n to_o the_o true_a and_o live_a member_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n â—nd_v as_o â—aul_v diâ—tinguishes_n between_o israel_n and_o they_o that_o be_v of_o israel_n rom._n 9.6_o and_o say_v he_o be_v not_o a_o jew_n i._n e._n not_o a_o jew_n indeed_o and_o accept_v in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n who_o be_v â—ut_v outward_o â—nâ—_n rom._n 2.28_o 29._o but_o will_v you_o therefore_o say_v that_o a_o close_a hypocrite_n unâ—eâ—bers_v himself_o and_o fâ—lls_v out_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n without_o
be_v dead_a this_o second_o generation_n will_v be_v a_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n without_o any_o further_a act_n or_o covenant_a be_v no_o absurdity_n but_o a_o manifest_a truth_n i._n e._n take_v that_o phrase_n further_n act_n or_o covenant_v to_o be_v mean_v of_o a_o particular_a formal_a act_n of_o explicite_fw-la verbal_n covenant_v for_o otherwise_o there_o be_v a_o further_a act_n yea_o a_o act_n of_o implicit_a covenant_v in_o their_o constant_a and_o public_a profession_n of_o the_o religion_n of_o their_o father_n but_o we_o say_v this_o second_o generation_n continue_v to_o use_v mr._n cotton_v phrase_n in_o ground_n of_o baptism_n pag._n 106._o in_o a_o visible_a profession_n of_o the_o covenant_n faith_n and_o religion_n of_o their_o father_n be_v a_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n though_o they_o have_v not_o yet_o make_v any_o explicit_a personal_a expression_n of_o their_o engagement_n as_o their_o father_n do_v even_o as_o the_o israelite_n that_o be_v number_v in_o the_o plain_n of_o moab_n be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o under_o the_o covenant_n of_o god_n make_v with_o they_o in_o horeb_n though_o their_o parent_n with_o who_o it_o be_v first_o make_v in_o horeb_n be_v all_o dead_a and_o that_o before_o the_o solemn_a renew_n of_o the_o covenant_n with_o they_o in_o the_o plain_n of_o moab_n deut._n 29._o see_v deut._n 5.2_o 3._o with_o numb_a 26.63_o 64_o 65._o and_o so_o mr._n hooker_n roundly_o and_o express_o affirm_v this_o which_o be_v here_o by_o our_o brethren_n deny_v survey_v part._n 1._o pag._n 48._o 3._o as_o for_o our_o denial_n of_o the_o liberty_n of_o vote_v in_o church-affair_n to_o the_o person_n in_o question_n till_o they_o be_v fit_v for_o and_o admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n it_o stand_v good_a and_o rational_a without_o any_o prejudice_n to_o their_o be_v a_o true_a church_n in_o the_o case_n suppose_v for_o there_o be_v no_o difficulty_n in_o it_o to_o conceive_v that_o the_o case_n of_o a_o true_a church_n may_v be_v such_o by_o degeneracy_n or_o loss_n of_o their_o best_a member_n etc._n etc._n as_o that_o they_o may_v be_v at_o present_a unfit_a to_o put_v forth_o or_o exercise_v a_o power_n of_o act_v in_o church-affair_n though_o it_o be_v radical_o in_o they_o till_o by_o the_o use_n of_o needful_a mean_n they_o or_o a_o select_a qualify_a number_n among_o they_o be_v bring_v up_o unto_o a_o better_a and_o fit_a capacity_n for_o it_o and_o example_n hereof_o be_v not_o far_o to_o seek_v let_v that_o way_n of_o reform_v corrupt_a and_o degenerate_a church_n be_v attend_v which_o be_v partly_o suggest_v in_o mr._n allin_n and_o mr._n shepard_n preface_n before_o their_o defence_n of_o the_o nine_o position_n which_o preface_n beverly_n say_v be_v instar_fw-la omnium_fw-la pag._n 10_o 18_o 19_o 20._o viz._n 20._o that_o they_o be_v acknowledge_v true_a church_n and_o call_v by_o the_o powerful_a preach_v of_o the_o word_n to_o humiliation_n repentance_n and_o agreement_n unto_o reformation_n 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put_v in_o any_o bar_n to_o hinder_v it_o of_o which_o the_o former_a branch_n be_v prove_v because_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n be_v the_o main_a ground_n of_o title_n to_o baptism_n and_o this_o these_o child_n have_v and_o that_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o baptise_v anâ—_n the_o synod_n prove_v because_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n this_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o title_n to_o circumcision_n gen._n 17.7_o 9_o 10_o 11._o to_o which_o baptism_n now_o answer_v col._n 2.11_o 12_o and_o because_o in_o act_n 2.38_o 39_o they_o be_v 〈◊〉_d ground_n exhort_v to_o be_v baptize_v because_o the_o promise_n 〈◊〉_d covenant_n be_v to_o they_o and_o to_o their_o child_n now_o what_o say_v the_o reverend_a author_n to_o these_o proof_n true_o nothing_o at_o all_o that_o do_v appear_v and_o therefore_o the_o argument_n &_o proof_n of_o it_o stand_v good_a for_o aught_o that_o be_v here_o say_v to_o the_o contrary_n and_o indeed_o how_o can_v it_o be_v otherwise_o since_o nothing_o be_v more_o plain_a then_o that_o the_o covenant_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o circumcision_n and_o that_o they_o in_o acts._n 2._o be_v therefore_o exhort_v to_o be_v baptize_v i_o will_v establish_v my_o covenant_n say_v god_n gen._n 17._o between_o i_o and_o thou_o and_o thy_o seed_n after_o thou_o you_o shall_v therefore_o keep_v my_o covenant_n and_o this_o be_v my_o covenant_n which_o you_o shall_v keep_v every_o male_a among_o you_o shall_v be_v circumcise_v and_o say_v peter_n repent_v and_o â—e_v baptize_v wherefore_o or_o on_o what_o ground_n must_v they_o be_v so_o because_o say_v he_o thâ—_n promise_v 〈…〉_z to_o your_o child_n whereby_o it_o be_v undeniable_o plain_a that_o the_o covenant_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o title_n to_o circumcision_n and_o be_v now_o of_o title_n to_o baptism_n nor_o can_v this_o be_v deny_v by_o the_o reverend_a author_n because_o he_o plain_o yield_v in_o position_n five_o and_o six_o premise_v that_o the_o covenant_n of_o abraham_n be_v the_o same_o in_o substance_n under_o the_o law_n and_o 〈◊〉_d the_o gospel_n and_o that_o baptism_n â—â—come_v in_o the_o place_n of_o circumcision_n and_o therefore_o infant_n of_o confederate_n be_v now_o to_o be_v baptize_v as_o thou_o they_o be_v circumcise_v they_o both_o be_v outward_a seal_n of_o the_o same_o covenant_n in_o substance_n pag._n 3_o 4._o so_o that_o in_o his_o judgement_n title_n to_o circumcision_n than_o be_v and_o to_o baptism_n now_o be_v right_o infer_v from_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n which_o the_o very_a thing_n here_o affirm_v by_o the_o synod_n what_o then_o do_v the_o reverend_a author_n here_o say_v why_o that_o which_o he_o say_v be_v this_o that_o man_n must_v be_v due_o qualify_v before_o they_o may_v be_v admire_v to_o covenant_n with_o the_o lord_n and_o his_o church_n for_o themselves_o and_o their_o child_n and_o that_o the_o primitive_a church_n look_v for_o this_o qualification_n in_o the_o 〈…〉_z admit_v into_o church-membership_a which_o do_v not_o at_o all_o enervate_a what_o the_o synod_n here_o say_v for_o suppose_v man_n must_v be_v due_o qualify_v before_o they_o be_v admit_v to_o covenant_n and_o membership_n do_v this_o prove_v that_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n be_v not_o the_o ground_n of_o title_n to_o the_o seal_n it_o seem_v not_o to_o prove_v it_o at_o all_o and_o the_o reason_n be_v because_o this_o speak_v not_o to_o the_o thing_n in_o question_n but_o to_o another_o point_n for_o whether_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n do_v prove_v right_a to_o the_o seal_n be_v one_o thing_n and_o how_o man_n shall_v be_v qualify_v afore_o they_o be_v admit_v to_o covenant_n be_v another_o and_o the_o former_a be_v that_o which_o be_v here_o affirm_v by_o the_o synod_n it_o can_v be_v overthrow_v by_o what_o the_o reverend_a author_n affirm_v concern_v the_o latter_a except_o we_o shall_v say_v that_o a_o thing_n may_v be_v sufficient_o confute_v by_o speak_v to_o another_o point_n when_o one_o do_v not_o speak_v ad_fw-la idem_fw-la whether_o the_o parent_n of_o the_o child_n here_o speak_v of_o be_v due_o qualify_v for_o covenant_n and_o unto_o membership_n be_v not_o the_o thing_n here_o in_o question_n nor_o speak_v of_o by_o the_o synod_n but_o here_o be_v the_o thing_n they_o affirm_v that_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n give_v title_n to_o baptism_n beside_o suppose_v the_o qualification_n here_o mention_v by_o the_o reverend_a author_n of_o be_v sâ—ints_v sanctify_a and_o faithful_a in_o christ_n jesus_n and_o the_o rest_n suppose_v these_o be_v requisite_a in_o man_n that_o be_v to_o be_v admit_v to_o covenant_n and_o membership_n yet_o this_o concern_v not_o the_o parent_n of_o the_o child_n here_o speak_v of_o because_o they_o be_v not_o now_o to_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o covenant_n and_o church_n membership_n but_o be_v therein_o already_o and_o have_v be_v long_o afore_o now_o even_o from_o their_o minority_n oâ—_n birth_n and_o therefore_o this_o also_o be_v another_o reason_n why_o that_o which_o be_v here_o speak_v by_o the_o reverend_a author_n be_v beside_o the_o question_n further_o whereas_o the_o synod_n here_o add_v that_o a_o member_n or_o one_o in_o covenant_n as_o such_o be_v the_o subject_a of_o baptism_n be_v further_o clear_v in_o propos._n 1_o the_o reverend_a author_n answer_v that_o the_o light_n which_o that_o proposition_n hold_v forth_o for_o clear_v this_o be_v in_o one_o clause_n which_o be_v here_o omit_v viz._n according_a to_o scripture_n they_o that_o according_a to_o scripture_n be_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n ans._n then_o let_v that_o clause_n be_v here_o add_v which_o be_v there_o express_v by_o the_o synod_n in_o that_o first_o proposition_n if_o then_o the_o reverend_a author_n do_v consent_v thereto_o as_o it_o may_v seem_v by_o his_o manner_n of_o allege_v it_o that_o he_o do_v then_o what_o the_o synod_n here_o affirm_v be_v gain_v viz._n that_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o title_n to_o baptism_n and_o indeed_o the_o synod_n give_v five_o argument_n for_o clear_v of_o that_o first_o proposition_n which_o the_o reverend_a author_n do_v not_o there_o meddle_v withal_o much_o less_o remove_v and_o therefore_o they_o still_o stand_v in_o force_n only_o it_o may_v be_v observe_v that_o whereas_o here_o he_o seem_v to_o consent_v to_o the_o proposition_n if_o that_o term_n according_a to_o scripture_n be_v add_v yet_o when_o he_o speak_v to_o that_o first_o proposition_n he_o consent_v not_o thereto_o unless_o this_o term_n according_a to_o scripture_n might_n be_v change_v into_o this_o according_a to_o christ_n ordinance_n otherwise_o he_o can_v not_o then_o concur_v with_o that_o proposition_n and_o this_o term_n in_o it_o though_o now_o it_o seem_v he_o do_v but_o whether_o it_o be_v express_v the_o one_o way_n or_o
rome_n and_o paul_n be_v free_a bear_v act._n 22.28_o yet_o paul_n freedom_n be_v either_o better_a than_o the_o other_o or_o at_o lest_o no_o worse_o and_o so_o it_o may_v be_v say_v of_o the_o church-membership_a of_o little_a child_n there_o be_v want_v unto_o child_n in_o minority_n to_o make_v they_o such_o member_n a_o personal_a fitness_n to_o act_v in_o covenant_n for_o themselves_o ans._n but_o this_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o nature_n of_o their_o membership_n but_o only_o speak_v of_o the_o way_n of_o attain_v it_o by_o their_o own_o act_n but_o shall_v we_o say_v that_o paul_n want_v something_o to_o make_v he_o a_o free_a roman_a because_o he_o have_v no_o personal_a fitness_n nor_o ability_n to_o procure_v that_o freedom_n to_o himself_o by_o his_o own_o act_n but_o only_o be_v so_o bear_v or_o shall_v we_o say_v that_o david_n and_o other_o mention_v in_o psal._n 22.10_o isai._n 46.4_o want_a something_o of_o complete_a proper_a and_o immediate_a interest_n in_o god_n because_o they_o have_v their_o interest_n from_o their_o mother_n womb_n and_o do_v not_o attain_v it_o by_o their_o own_o personal_a act_n for_o our_o part_n we_o dare_v not_o so_o say_v and_o by_o like_a reason_n dare_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o the_o interest_n of_o little_a child_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n may_v be_v proper_a complete_a and_o immediate_a though_o they_o have_v not_o come_v to_o it_o by_o their_o own_o act_n but_o have_v have_v it_o from_o their_o minority_n or_o birth_n for_o to_o have_v god_n for_o their_o god_n be_v as_o great_a a_o blessing_n as_o to_o be_v a_o actual_a and_o immediate_a member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o yet_o we_o see_v want_v of_o personal_a fitness_n to_o act_v for_o themselves_o do_v not_o hinder_v from_o the_o one_o and_o why_o then_o shall_v it_o hinder_v from_o the_o other_o synod_n a_o different_a manner_n and_o mean_n of_o convey_v the_o covenant_n to_o we_o or_o of_o make_v we_o member_n do_v not_o make_v a_o different_a sort_n of_o member_n we_o be_v as_o true_o personal_o and_o immediate_o member_n of_o the_o body_n of_o fall_a mankind_n and_o by_o nature_n heir_n of_o the_o condemnation_n pertain_v thereto_o as_o adam_n be_v though_o he_o come_v to_o â—e_v so_o by_o his_o own_o personal_a act_n and_o we_o by_o the_o act_n of_o our_o public_a person_n pag._n 24.25_o the_o reverend_a author_n in_o his_o answer_n hereto_o grant_v that_o in_o the_o case_n of_o adam_n it_o be_v so_o as_o be_v say_v but_o say_v he_o this_o do_v not_o suit_v the_o the_o case_n of_o â—_z in_o question_n for_o 1._o adam_n stand_v as_o a_o public_a person_n for_o all_o mankind_n no_o parent_n be_v so_o for_o all_o his_o posterity_n but_o for_o his_o infant_n and_o child_n in_o minority_n 2._o adam_n covenant_n be_v only_o with_o the_o lord_n and_o not_o with_o any_o church_n as_o the_o covenant_n of_o confederate_a parent_n be_v 3._o the_o parent_n break_v the_o covenant_n do_v not_o make_v his_o child_n heir_n of_o condemnation_n as_o adam_n do_v all_o mankind_n pag._n 40.41_o for_o answer_v whereto_o we_o may_v remember_v what_o himself_o do_v former_o express_v that_o similitude_n do_v not_o run_v on_o four_o foot_n if_o they_o agree_v in_o the_o main_a point_n that_o may_v suffâ—â—_n though_o in_o other_o thing_n they_o dâ—ffer_v if_o therefore_o there_o be_v these_o three_o difference_n and_o as_o many_o more_o between_o the_o case_n allege_v yet_o where_o be_v there_o any_o difference_n in_o the_o main_a point_n be_v not_o we_o as_o true_o personal_o and_o immediate_o member_n of_o the_o body_n of_o fall_a mankind_n as_o adam_n be_v this_o the_o reverend_a author_n do_v not_o deny_v but_o in_o plain_a word_n do_v grant_v it_o and_o be_v not_o then_o the_o purpose_n of_o the_o synod_n in_o allege_v this_o instance_n clear_o gain_v do_v it_o not_o plain_o appear_v thereby_o that_o a_o different_a way_n and_o mean_n of_o be_v in_o covenant_n do_v not_o make_v a_o different_a sort_n of_o membership_n adam_n be_v a_o member_n of_o fall_a mankind_n and_o so_o be_v we_o though_o he_o come_v to_o be_v so_o by_o his_o own_o personal_a act_n and_o we_o by_o he_o or_o by_o his_o act_n for_o we_o which_o do_v clear_o show_v what_o the_o synod_n say_v that_o a_o different_a way_n and_o mean_n of_o be_v member_n do_v not_o alter_v the_o nature_n and_o kind_n of_o membership_n which_o we_o see_v do_v hold_v as_o touch_v be_v a_o member_n of_o fall_a mankind_n and_o we_o see_v no_o reason_n but_o it_o may_v also_o hold_v as_o touch_v be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o visible_a church_n there_o be_v not_o any_o to_o be_v account_v a_o public_a person_n as_o adam_n be_v but_o only_o jesus_n christ_n for_o all_o that_o be_v in_o he_o rom._n 5.14_o to_o 20._o pag._n 41._o ans._n yet_o it_o be_v evident_a though_o jesus_n christ_n be_v a_o public_a person_n for_o all_o that_o be_v in_o he_o as_o adam_n be_v yet_o in_o the_o number_n of_o person_n there_o be_v difference_n adam_n stand_v for_o 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than_o the_o servant_n since_o in_o the_o cafe_z allege_v the_o servant_n may_v trade_v under_o the_o freeman_n as_o well_o as_o the_o child_n may_v we_o suppose_v none_o will_v say_v this_o and_o therefore_o in_o this_o the_o comparison_n do_v not_o suit_v the_o case_n in_o hand_n the_o order_n and_o privilege_n of_o corporation_n be_v various_a according_a to_o the_o tenor_n of_o their_o several_a charter_n but_o what_o the_o charter_n of_o the_o church_n be_v we_o know_v viz._n that_o in_o gen._n 17._o it_o take_v in_o child_n into_o the_o church_n with_o their_o parent_n and_o do_v not_o allow_v they_o to_o be_v put_v out_o till_o censurable_a iniquity_n do_v appear_v 2._o if_o in_o some_o corporation_n one_o that_o be_v freeborn_a do_v lose_v his_o privilege_n when_o he_o become_v adult_n if_o he_o do_v not_o then_o enter_v personal_o into_o the_o engagement_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o certain_a that_o it_o be_v so_o in_o all_o sure_o no_o such_o thing_n be_v say_v of_o paul_n who_o 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applicable_a to_o such_o infant_n and_o little_a child_n who_o parent_n be_v personal_a immediate_a and_o yet-continuing_a member_n they_o do_v then_o sufficient_o serve_v the_o purpose_n for_o which_o they_o be_v here_o allege_v by_o the_o synod_n so_o much_o for_o defence_n of_o the_o six_o and_o last_o argument_n for_o confirm_v this_o five_o proposition_n propos._n 6._o the_o six_o proposition_n of_o the_o synod_n be_v this_o such_o church-member_n who_o either_o by_o death_n or_o some_o extraordinary_a providence_n have_v be_v inevitable_o hinder_v from_o public_a act_n as_o aforesaid_a yet_o have_v give_v the_o church_n cause_n in_o judgement_n of_o charity_n to_o look_v at_o they_o as_o so_o qualify_v and_o such_o as_o have_v they_o be_v call_v thereunto_o will_v have_v so_o act_v their_o child_n be_v to_o be_v baptise_a to_o this_o the_o reverend_a author_n answer_v that_o this_o proposition_n may_v not_o be_v grant_v for_o it_o grant_v the_o privilege_n of_o 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it_o be_v say_v they_o have_v be_v inevitable_o hinder_v therein_o and_o have_v give_v the_o church_n cause_n in_o judgement_n of_o charity_n to_o look_v at_o they_o as_o willing_a to_o have_v so_o act_v and_o therefore_o have_v be_v church-member_n from_o their_o birth_n or_o minority_n how_o can_v the_o apply_v of_o baptism_n to_o their_o child_n be_v the_o grant_n of_o a_o church-priviledge_n to_o such_o as_o be_v not_o church-member_n if_o they_o have_v not_o be_v hinder_v from_o act_v as_o in_o the_o five_o proposition_n but_o have_v indeed_o so_o do_v yet_o this_o be_v not_o the_o thing_n that_o will_v have_v make_v they_o member_n they_o have_v be_v member_n afore_o and_o though_o they_o be_v now_o adult_n yet_o it_o have_v be_v prove_v afore_o in_o the_o five_o proposition_n arg._n 6._o part._n 3._o that_o their_o membership_n do_v still_o continue_v and_o therefore_o the_o grant_n of_o church-priviledge_n to_o such_o as_o be_v not_o church-member_n may_v be_v yield_v to_o be_v 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a_o withdraw_n from_o other_o church_n upon_o difference_n error_n or_o offence_n of_o a_o inferior_a and_o dubious_a nature_n yea_o though_o continue_v in_o we_o be_v far_o enough_o from_o hastiness_n or_o harshness_n in_o that_o matter_n be_v profess_a adversary_n to_o a_o spirit_n of_o sinful_a and_o rigid_a separation_n we_o hope_v there_o be_v no_o word_n in_o the_o synod_n conclusion_n that_o savour_v thereof_o if_o candid_o interpret_v and_o for_o withdraw_v from_o brethren_n because_o of_o dissent_n from_o what_o be_v here_o hold_v forth_o by_o this_o synod_n both_o our_o practice_n and_o our_o profession_n in_o the_o preface_n to_o that_o book_n do_v sufficient_o show_v we_o to_o be_v far_o from_o it_o this_o may_v answer_v what_o be_v say_v this_o way_n in_o pag._n 54_o 55_o 57_o 63._o 2._o that_o we_o account_v not_o consociation_n of_o church_n to_o be_v another_o thing_n thâ—n_o communion_n of_o church_n but_o only_o a_o agreement_n to_o practise_v that_o communion_n as_o be_v express_o say_v in_o propos._n 5_o &_o 6_o and_o therefore_o we_o understand_v not_o why_o the_o reverend_a author_n shall_v so_o often_o praise_v communion_n of_o church_n as_o pag._n 58_o 59_o 60_o 61._o and_o yet_o dispraise_v and_o dislike_n consociation_n be_v regular_n communion_n so_o good_a and_o excellent_a and_o can_v it_o be_v hurtful_a for_o church_n to_o agree_v and_o consent_n to_o practise_v it_o neither_o do_v we_o mean_v by_o that_o agreement_n a_o vow_n as_o be_v suggest_v pag._n 56_o 57_o or_o a_o formal_a covenant_n in_o a_o strict_a sense_n though_o mr._n cotton_n do_v not_o refuse_v to_o call_v it_o a_o covenant_n in_o key_n p._n 54.59_o but_o only_o a_o declare_a consent_n as_o be_v express_v propos._n 7._o of_o each_o church_n to_o walk_v in_o regular_a communion_n with_o their_o neighbour-churche_n and_o if_o the_o reverend_a author_n do_v approve_v of_o the_o act_n of_o communion_n here_o
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admit_v to_o election_n of_o officer_n some_z not_o some_o capable_a of_o plead_v and_o answer_v for_o themselves_o in_o law_n some_o be_v not_o but_o yet_o they_o all_o agree_v in_o the_o relation_n of_o a_o subject_a and_o who_o ever_o make_v a_o specifical_a distinction_n of_o that_o so_o as_o to_o say_v in_o that_o sense_n some_o be_v mediate_v subject_n and_o some_o immediate_a the_o same_o may_v be_v say_v of_o a_o family_n where_o the_o young_a child_n be_v as_o true_o proper_o personal_o and_o immediate_o a_o member_n of_o the_o family_n as_o the_o most_o grow_a person_n though_o as_o to_o power_n and_o privilege_n therein_o there_o be_v a_o vast_a difference_n so_o in_o the_o natural_a body_n all_o the_o part_n be_v not_o a_o eye_n a_o hand_n etc._n etc._n but_o all_o be_v member_n and_o the_o mean_a part_n be_v as_o well_o a_o member_n as_o the_o most_o noble_a 1_o cer._n 12._o 12_o 25._o now_o there_o be_v the_o like_a reason_n as_o to_o the_o general_a nature_n of_o membership_n in_o â—_o church-society_n which_o be_v set_v forth_o by_o that_o of_o a_o kingdom_n faâ—â—ly_o and_o of_o the_o natural_a body_n in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o so_o much_o for_o the_o discourse_n upon_o the_o second_o objection_n in_o the_o three_o place_n our_o brethren_n set_v down_o this_o position_n or_o opinion_n as_o that_o which_o be_v object_v against_o they_o that_o a_o person_n who_o be_v a_o church-member_n may_v become_v no_o member_n by_o a_o act_n or_o defect_n of_o his_o own_o without_o any_o church-act_n in_o censure_v of_o he_o and_o to_o 〈◊〉_d be_v they_o say_v most_o true_a it_o be_v thâ—t_o we_o do_v maintain_v this_o and_o for_o prooâ—_n thereof_o they_o suppoâ—e_v 〈…〉_z of_o a_o english_a fugitive_n of_o one_o turn_v turk_n who_o be_v never_o censure_v by_o any_o church_n ans._n the_o position_n object_v against_o they_o if_o it_o be_v pertinent_a to_o the_o matter_n in_o hand_n must_v run_v thus_o that_o a_o person_n who_o be_v a_o church-member_n may_v become_v no_o member_n by_o a_o aâ—â—_n or_o defect_n of_o his_o own_o without_o any_o church-act_n in_o censure_v of_o hiâ—_n and_o without_o 〈…〉_z censure_n on_o his_o part_n or_o though_o he_o do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o deserve_v any_o church-censure_n and_o be_v not_o censurable_a by_o any_o rule_n of_o god_n word_n for_o so_o the_o word_n â—f_o the_o synod_n â—_o in_o defence_n of_o the_o controvert_v five_o proposition_n do_v express_o speak_v put_v that_o as_o a_o 〈◊〉_d that_o a_o person_n admit_v member_n and_o seal_v by_o baptism_n not_o cast_v out_o nor_o deserve_v so_o to_o be_v may_v the_o church_n whereof_o he_o be_v still_o remain_v become_v a_o non-member_n and_o out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o of_o the_o unclean_a world_n pag._n 26._o now_o put_v but_o this_o into_o the_o objection_n here_o mention_v without_o
it_o not_o a_o vain_a thing_n the_o person_n who_o you_o be_v about_o to_o disown_n be_v either_o within_o the_o church_n or_o without_o a_o member_n or_o not_o a_o member_n 17._o if_o he_o be_v within_o why_o may_v you_o not_o judge_v and_o censure_v he_o with_o the_o censure_n of_o cut_v off_o or_o cast_v out_o i._n e._n excommunication_n 1_o cor._n 5.12_o 13._o there_o be_v cause_n for_o it_o if_o he_o be_v without_o why_o shall_v you_o disow_v he_o any_o more_o than_o you_o do_v non-member_n or_o such_o as_o be_v never_o join_v to_o the_o church_n will_v it_o not_o seem_v a_o strange_a and_o vain_a thing_n if_o the_o church_n shall_v put_v forth_o a_o solemn_a public_a act_n to_o disow_v a_o company_n of_o non-member_n that_o be_v without_o the_o church_n to_o what_o purpose_n shall_v this_o be_v how_o act_v 8.21_o here_o cite_v in_o the_o margin_n shall_v make_v for_o this_o disow_n we_o understand_v not_o peter_n there_o tell_v simon_n magus_n that_o he_o be_v far_o from_o have_v any_o part_n or_o lot_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o confer_v the_o extraordinary_a gift_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o he_o never_o have_v but_o ambitious_o aspire_v after_o but_o do_v not_o declare_v that_o he_o have_v discovenant_v himself_o or_o have_v lose_v his_o membership_n which_o he_o once_o have_v and_o whatever_o become_v of_o simon_n magus_n afterward_o of_o which_o the_o scripture_n be_v silent_a and_o story_n uncertain_a there_o be_v no_o ground_n to_o think_v that_o he_o be_v then_o put_v out_o of_o the_o church_n or_o lose_v his_o membership_n but_o rather_o the_o apostle_n by_o grave_a apostolical_a rebuke_n and_o counsel_n apply_v himself_o to_o he_o as_o to_o one_o in_o the_o church_n to_o bring_v he_o to_o repentance_n and_o to_o that_o sincerity_n of_o grace_n which_o he_o yet_o want_v versâ—_n 22_o 13._o as_o for_o the_o reason_n here_o render_v why_o excommunication_n agree_v not_o to_o the_o child_n in_o question_n viz._n because_o it_o be_v applicable_a to_o none_o but_o those_o who_o have_v be_v in_o full_a communion_n 57_o this_o be_v but_o a_o beg_n of_o the_o question_n and_o carry_v not_o evidence_n of_o truth_n with_o it_o 〈◊〉_d excommunication_n i._n e._n the_o utmost_a censure_n so_o call_v do_v not_o proper_o or_o next_o debar_v or_o exclude_v from_o full_a communion_n but_o it_o cut_v off_o from_o membership_n render_v a_o person_n as_o a_o heathen_a and_o publican_n mat._n 18.17_o and_o so_o from_o that_o communion_n that_o belong_v to_o a_o member_n as_o such_o when_o a_o person_n that_o have_v stand_v for_o some_o time_n admonish_v be_v afterward_o for_o his_o contumacy_n excommunicate_v it_o be_v not_o excommunication_n that_o do_v immediate_o and_o proper_o put_v he_o out_o of_o full_a communion_n for_o that_o be_v do_v by_o admonition_n whereby_o be_v ecclesiastical_o unclean_a he_o be_v just_o suspend_v from_o eat_v of_o the_o holy_a thing_n but_o excommunication_n cut_v he_o off_o from_o membership_n which_o admonition_n do_v not_o hence_o it_o be_v not_o full_a communion_n but_o membership_n that_o do_v proper_o and_o formal_o render_v a_o person_n a_o subject_a capable_a of_o excommunication_n hence_o it_o agree_v to_o all_o that_o be_v member_n though_o they_o have_v not_o be_v in_o full_a communion_n and_o every_o member_n have_v some_o communion_n though_o not_o full_a communion_n and_o therefore_o may_v be_v excommunicate_v paul_n when_o he_o be_v speak_v of_o the_o church_n judicial_a proceed_n and_o that_o unto_o excommunication_n make_v it_o applicable_a to_o all_o that_o be_v within_o 1_o cor._n 5.12_o if_o in_o full_a communion_n yet_o church-judgement_n fâ—lls_v upon_o they_o not_o as_o in_o full_a communion_n but_o as_o within_o the_o cast_v out_o of_o cain_n and_o ishmael_n the_o cut_n off_o of_o the_o bear_v member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o israel_n from_o their_o people_n a_o expression_n often_o use_v the_o cast_v out_o of_o the_o child_n of_o the_o kingdom_n matth._n 8.12_o do_v at_o 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glimmering_n of_o gospel-light_n that_o they_o then_o have_v together_o with_o the_o great_a weakness_n and_o rawness_n of_o some_o that_o he_o baptise_a john_n 3.25_o 26._o act._n 19.1_o 5._o will_n not_o think_v that_o the_o person_n baptise_a by_o john_n do_v excel_v those_o who_o the_o synod_n describe_v in_o their_o five_o proposition_n of_o which_o our_o brethren_n be_v so_o sensible_a in_o their_o antisynodalia_a pag._n 18._o that_o there_o they_o choose_v rather_o to_o wave_v johns_n practice_n and_o to_o seek_v for_o strict_a precedent_n though_o here_o they_o plead_v and_o that_o right_o and_o true_o that_o john_n baptism_n be_v christian_a baptism_n and_o hold_v forth_o a_o rule_n unto_o we_o as_o for_o that_o confession_n of_o sin_n in_o mat._n 3.6_o when_o our_o child_n do_v in_o their_o assens_n to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n and_o consent_v to_o the_o covenant_n acknowledge_v their_o sin_n and_o misery_n by_o nature_n their_o perish_a condition_n without_o christ_n etc._n etc._n be_v willing_a to_o submit_v to_o instruction_n and_o government_n for_o the_o reformation_n of_o their_o sin_n as_o those_o that_o be_v baptise_a by_o john_n show_v their_o penitential_a frame_n by_o that_o viz._n a_o submission_n to_o his_o instruction_n and_o counsel_n luk._n 3.10_o 14._o they_o can_v be_v deny_v to_o have_v somewhat_o of_o that_o confession_n of_o sin_n so_o chemnit_fw-la on_o the_o place_n they_o acknowledge_v themselves_o to_o be_v sinner_n 3.6_o and_o both_o in_o word_n and_o by_o their_o action_n in_o desire_v to_o be_v baptize_v they_o profess_v their_o fear_n of_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n and_o desire_v to_o escape_v it_o but_o if_o any_o do_v stand_v guilty_a of_o open_a scandal_n we_o know_v not_o why_o they_o shall_v not_o make_v particular_a confession_n of_o their_o sin_n therein_o when_o they_o come_v to_o present_v themselves_o before_o god_n and_o desire_v baptism_n for_o their_o child_n if_o they_o have_v not_o do_v it_o before_o so_o say_v the_o same_o chemnitius_n in_o the_o same_o place_n of_o they_o moreover_o such_o as_o stand_v guilty_a of_o more_o grievous_a fall_n do_v also_o confess_v they_o in_o particular_a to_o be_v sure_a they_o shall_v by_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n be_v bring_v to_o that_o whether_o they_o have_v child_n to_o be_v baptize_v or_o no_o but_o then_o may_v be_v a_o fit_a season_n for_o it_o thus_o there_o may_v be_v cause_n and_o call_v for_o a_o special_a repentance_n in_o special_a case_n when_o person_n have_v so_o carry_v it_o as_o to_o shake_v their_o stand_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o although_o the_o rule_n own_v the_o child_n to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n and_o so_o a_o subject_a of_o baptism_n while_o it_o allow_v the_o parent_n to_o be_v a_o member_n not_o cut_v off_o yet_o it_o be_v a_o covenant-duty_n of_o the_o parent_n to_o confess_v his_o sin_n in_o such_o a_o case_n and_o so_o shall_v baptism_n be_v administer_v with_o great_a honour_n to_o god_n and_o comfort_n to_o all_o that_o be_v concern_v but_o otherwise_o while_o the_o parent_n that_o be_v bear_v in_o the_o church_n regular_o continue_v in_o it_o without_o scandal_n he_o be_v ecclesiastical_o account_v to_o have_v the_o be_v of_o repentance_n and_o so_o to_o have_v the_o thing_n which_o john_n require_v of_o they_o though_o not_o the_o same_o modus_fw-la of_o manifestation_n and_o discovery_n thereof_o now_o follow_v the_o five_o reason_n of_o our_o brethren_n dissent_n which_o be_v this_o that_o which_o will_v not_o make_v a_o man_n capable_a of_o receive_v baptism_n himself_o in_o case_n he_o be_v unbaptise_v do_v not_o make_v he_o capable_a of_o transmit_v right_o of_o baptism_n unto_o his_o child_n but_o all_o that_o the_o synod_n have_v say_v will_v not_o give_v a_o man_n right_o to_o baptism_n himself_o in_o case_n he_o be_v unbaptise_v therefore_o all_o that_o the_o synod_n have_v say_v be_v not_o enough_o to_o make_v a_o man_n capable_a of_o transmit_v right_o of_o
baptism_n unto_o his_o child_n whereunto_o be_v add_v somewhat_o out_o of_o bucer_n parker_n and_o mr._n cotton_n as_o concur_v with_o the_o judgement_n of_o our_o brethren_n ans._n take_v capable_a of_o receive_v baptism_n himself_o or_o right_o to_o baptism_n himself_o for_o a_o state_n of_o baptism-right_a or_o capacity_n we_o may_v grant_v the_o major_n but_o the_o minor_a in_o manifest_o to_o be_v deny_v but_o take_v it_o for_o a_o frame_n of_o actual_a fitness_n to_o receive_v baptism_n we_o can_v say_v that_o we_o may_v grant_v the_o minor_a but_o sure_o the_o major_n will_v not_o hold_v it_o be_v true_a that_o that_o which_o do_v not_o put_v a_o man_n into_o a_o state_n of_o right_a to_o baptism_n for_o himself_o in_o case_n he_o be_v unbaptise_v i._n e._n into_o a_o state_n of_o church-membership_a will_v not_o enable_v he_o to_o give_v baptism-right_a to_o his_o child_n if_o the_o parent_n be_v not_o a_o member_n or_o not_o in_o a_o state_n of_o covenant_n interest_n none_o of_o we_o plead_v for_o the_o child_n baptism_n and_o if_o he_o be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d sure_o he_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o a_o subject_a of_o baptism_n or_o in_o a_o state_n of_o right_a to_o it_o as_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v whatever_o may_v the_o facto_fw-la hinder_v it_o but_o it_o be_v possible_a for_o a_o adult_n person_n be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o a_o member_n and_o so_o of_o right_a to_o baptism_n to_o have_v something_o fall_v in_o which_o may_v hinder_v the_o actual_a application_n of_o baptism_n to_o himself_o in_o case_n he_o be_v unbaptise_v or_o his_o actual_a fitness_n for_o it_o and_o yet_o the_o same_o thing_n may_v not_o hinder_v a_o person_n already_o baptize_v and_o stand_v in_o a_o covenant-state_n from_o convey_v baptism-right_a to_o his_o child_n the_o reason_n be_v because_o the_o right_n of_o the_o child_n depend_v upon_o the_o state_n of_o the_o parent_n that_o he_o be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o membership_n for_o if_o so_o then_o divine_a institution_n carry_v or_o transmit_v membership_n and_o so_o baptism-right_a to_o the_o child_n but_o the_o parent_n regular_a partake_n of_o this_o or_o that_o ordinance_n for_o himself_o depend_v much_o upon_o his_o own_o actual_a fitness_n for_o it_o as_o suppose_v a_o unbaptised_a adult_n person_n admit_v into_o the_o church_n who_o before_o he_o be_v baptize_v fall_n into_o some_o great_a offence_n though_o such_o a_o case_n can_v hardly_o fall_v out_o if_o baptism_n be_v administer_v according_a to_o the_o rule_n and_o apostolical_a practice_n i._n e._n immediate_o upon_o first_o admission_n matth._n 28.19_o act_n 16.33_o much_o more_o be_v it_o a_o harsh_a and_o strange_a supposition_n for_o a_o parent_n that_o ought_v to_o have_v be_v and_o be_v baptize_v in_o his_o infancy_n to_o be_v suppose_v to_o be_v yet_o unbaptise_v but_o allow_v the_o supposition_n that_o a_o person_n 〈◊〉_d in_o adult_n age_n fall_v into_o offence_n before_o he_o be_v baptize_v he_o may_v be_v call_v to_o give_v satisfaction_n for_o it_o and_o to_o show_v himself_o in_o a_o more_o serious_a and_o penitent_a frame_n before_o himself_o receive_v baptism_n but_o suppose_v he_o die_v before_o he_o do_v that_o and_o leave_v child_n behind_o he_o shall_v not_o they_o be_v baptize_v in_o like_a manner_n if_o a_o person_n already_o baptize_v yea_o or_o already_o in_o full_a communion_n shall_v fall_v into_o offence_n you_o will_v say_v that_o will_v put_v a_o stop_n to_o his_o own_o baptism_n in_o case_n upon_o a_o impossible_a supposition_n he_o be_v yet_o unbaptise_v but_o what_o rule_n or_o reason_n be_v there_o for_o it_o to_o make_v a_o particular_a offence_n in_o the_o parent_n to_o cut_v oâ—_n the_o child_n right_a to_o baptism_n when_o as_o the_o parent_n be_v notwithstanding_o that_o offence_n still_o a_o member_n and_o within_o the_o church_n and_o do_v not_o show_v any_o such_o incorrigibleness_n as_o that_o 〈◊〉_d be_v by_o rule_n to_o be_v put_v out_o when_o as_o the_o offence_n do_v not_o cut_v off_o the_o parent_n membership_n be_v there_o any_o reason_n it_o shall_v cut_v off_o the_o membership_n of_o the_o child_n and_o if_o it_o cut_v not_o of_o the_o child_n membership_n it_o do_v not_o cut_v off_o his_o right_n to_o baptism_n whatever_o may_v be_v say_v for_o require_v the_o parent_n to_o confess_v his_o sin_n before_o his_o child_n baptism_n in_o reference_n to_o the_o more_o expedient_a and_o comfortable_a manner_n of_o administration_n therein_o we_o oppose_v not_o yet_o where_o do_v the_o scripture_n allow_v we_o to_o disannul_v the_o child_n right_a to_o baptism_n upon_o a_o particular_a offence_n in_o the_o parent_n especial_o when_o it_o be_v not_o such_o as_o do_v touch_v upon_o the_o essential_o of_o christianity_n and_o notwithstanding_o which_o the_o parent_n be_v regular_o and_o orderly_o continue_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n it_o remain_v therefore_o that_o there_o may_v be_v obstruction_n to_o a_o parent_n receive_v baptism_n for_o himself_o in_o case_n he_o be_v unbaptise_v which_o do_v not_o incapacitate_v a_o baptize_v parent_n to_o transmit_v if_o we_o may_v attribute_v transmit_v to_o a_o parent_n which_o be_v proper_o the_o act_n of_o god_n institution_n and_o covenant_n right_a of_o baptism_n unto_o his_o child_n but_o for_o the_o minor_a or_o assumption_n of_o the_o argument_n in_o hand_n it_o will_v not_o hold_v in_o either_o of_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o proposition_n above_o give_v for_o 1._o we_o will_v ready_o grant_v that_o if_o the_o parent_n be_v not_o in_o a_o state_n of_o baptism-right_a himself_o i._n e._n in_o a_o state_n of_o membership_n he_o can_v convey_v baptism-right_a to_o his_o child_n but_o how_o manifest_a be_v it_o that_o that_o which_o the_o synod_n have_v say_v in_o their_o five_o proposition_n do_v render_v the_o person_n there_o describe_v in_o a_o state_n of_o right_a to_o baptism_n for_o themselves_o in_o case_n they_o be_v unbaptise_v viz._n in_o a_o state_n of_o membership_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n for_o the_o proposition_n speak_v of_o church-member_n such_o as_o be_v admit_v member_n in_o minority_n and_o do_v orderly_a and_o regular_o so_o continue_v and_o that_o a_o state_n of_o membership_n be_v a_o state_n of_o baptism-right_a or_o that_o all_o church-member_n be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o subject_n of_o baptism_n be_v a_o evident_a truth_n that_o can_v be_v deny_v by_o any_o that_o grant_v the_o synod_n first_o proposition_n for_o which_o there_o be_v sun-light_n in_o scripture_n and_o never_o be_v orthodox_n divine_a hear_v of_o that_o question_v it_o hence_o according_a to_o that_o rule_v case_n here_o mention_v the_o parent_n in_o question_n have_v themselves_o a_o title_n to_o baptism_n may_v entitle_v other_o they_o have_v not_o only_o a_o title_n to_o it_o but_o regular_a and_o actual_a possession_n of_o it_o for_o they_o be_v baptize_v and_o in_o case_n they_o be_v yet_o unbaptise_v they_o will_v be_v church-member_n have_v a_o title_n of_o right_n unto_o it_o they_o will_v stand_v possess_v of_o a_o interest_n in_o a_o title_n to_o it_o as_o mr._n hooker_n in_o the_o place_n here_o allege_v speaks_z whatever_o may_v de_fw-mi facto_fw-la hinder_v their_o enjoyment_n of_o it_o and_o as_o à _fw-la non_fw-la habente_fw-la potestatem_fw-la act_n be_v invalid_a so_o ab_fw-la habente_fw-la potestatem_fw-la they_o be_v valid_a and_o good_a but_o god_n have_v full_a power_n to_o give_v forth_o what_o grant_v he_o please_v and_o he_o have_v in_o the_o order_n of_o his_o covenant_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n grant_v a_o membership_n and_o so_o baptism-right_a unto_o child_n bear_v of_o parent_n that_o be_v member_n and_o so_o the_o parent_n that_o stand_v member_n of_o the_o church_n have_v as_o a_o instrument_n under_o god_n and_o from_o his_o grant_n power_n to_o 〈◊〉_d such_o a_o right_a unto_o his_o child_n child_n be_v within_o the_o covenant_n because_o they_o come_v from_o parent_n within_o the_o covenant_n in_o which_o they_o be_v include_v and_o so_o receive_v also_o by_o god_n say_v mr._n hooker_n in_o the_o place_n that_o be_v here_o cite_v survey_v part_n 3._o pag._n 18._o 2._o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v yield_v that_o the_o parent_n describe_v by_o the_o synod_n in_o their_o five_o proposition_n will_v not_o have_v right_a to_o baptism_n themseluâ—s_o in_o case_n they_o be_v unbaptise_v though_o you_o take_v right_a to_o baptism_n for_o actual_a and_o immediate_a fitness_n for_o the_o same_o in_o fero_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la sure_o he_o will_v have_v a_o hard_a talk_n who_o shall_v undertake_v out_o of_o scripture_n or_o orthodox_n divine_v to_o show_v that_o adult_a person_n understanding_n and_o believe_v the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n and_o public_o profess_v the_o same_o not_o scandalous_a in_o life_n and_o solemn_o take_v hâ—ld_n of_o the_o covenant_n wherein_o they_o
poedobaptisme_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n right_o infer_v from_o the_o circumcision_n of_o infant_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n because_o here_o there_o be_v par_fw-fr ratio_fw-la between_o they_o and_o be_v not_o their_o subjection_n to_o church-discipline_n when_o adult_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n right_o infer_v from_o the_o like_a subjection_n in_o the_o old_a it_o do_v not_o appear_v that_o there_o be_v any_o want_n of_o par_fw-fr ratio_fw-la in_o the_o one_o case_n any_o more_o than_o in_o the_o other_o as_o for_o that_o which_o be_v here_o immediate_o bring_v in_o pag._n 11._o to_o prove_v that_o there_o be_v not_o par_fw-fr ratio_fw-la viz._n because_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o patriarch_n family_n be_v to_o continue_v in_o communion_n with_o the_o church_n all_o the_o day_n of_o their_o life_n until_o they_o be_v cast_v out_o as_o ishmael_n or_o voluntary_o depart_v from_o it_o as_o esau._n we_o conceive_v this_o be_v no_o proof_n at_o all_o of_o 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with_o they_o and_o so_o he_o do_v now_o in_o the_o six_o place_n the_o application_n say_v the_o preface_n of_o the_o seal_n of_o baptism_n unto_o those_o who_o be_v not_o true_a believer_n we_o mean_v visible_o for_o de_fw-fr occultis_fw-la non_fw-la judicat_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la be_v a_o profanation_n thereof_o and_o as_o dreadful_a a_o sin_n as_o if_o a_o man_n shall_v administer_v the_o lord_n supper_n unto_o unworthy_a receiver_n we_o marvel_v that_o any_o shall_v think_v that_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o as_o muâ—h_v profane_v and_o vilify_v by_o undue_a administration_n of_o baptism_n as_o by_o undue_a administration_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n ans_fw-fr it_o will_v be_v hard_a for_o the_o red_a to_o gather_v out_o of_o all_o that_o be_v here_o say_v a_o reason_n of_o dissent_n from_o the_o synod_n for_o we_o ready_o grant_v and_o say_v that_o baptism_n be_v not_o to_o be_v apply_v to_o any_o but_o visible_a believer_n take_v visible_a believer_n as_o a_o term_n 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and_o there_o that_o do_v though_o we_o hope_v not_o in_o their_o intention_n clasâ—_n with_o the_o baptise_v of_o â—_z here_o be_v also_o express_v a_o marvel_n that_o any_o shall_v think_v etc._n etc._n but_o we_o may_v answer_v with_o a_o marvel_n that_o any_o shall_v speak_v as_o if_o any_o of_o we_o do_v think_v that_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o profane_v by_o undue_a administration_n of_o baptism_n as_o well_o as_o by_o undue_a administration_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n whether_o as_o much_o or_o no_o in_o point_n of_o degree_n we_o will_v not_o trouble_v ourselves_o to_o dispute_v though_o we_o suppose_v the_o degree_n of_o sinful_a pollution_n or_o profanation_n of_o the_o lord_n name_v in_o any_o ordinance_n will_v be_v intend_v by_o the_o degree_n of_o special_a communion_n that_o we_o have_v with_o christ_n in_o that_o ordinance_n and_o by_o the_o danger_n that_o such_o pollution_n infer_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n as_o well_o as_o to_o the_o particular_a partaker_n which_o will_v hardly_o be_v deny_v to_o be_v more_o in_o the_o lord_n supper_n then_o in_o baptism_n but_o whether_o the_o profanation_n be_v as_o great_a or_o no_o to_o be_v sure_a it_o be_v very_o great_a and_o so_o great_a as_o that_o every_o pious_a conscientious_a person_n shall_v fear_v to_o have_v any_o hand_n in_o the_o undue_a administration_n of_o baptism_n but_o where_o be_v there_o any_o thing_n to_o show_v that_o the_o administration_n of_o baptism_n point_v to_o by_o the_o synod_n be_v undue_a or_o that_o it_o be_v a_o undue_a administration_n of_o baptism_n to_o extend_v it_o further_o than_o the_o lord_n supper_n or_o to_o administer_v baptism_n to_o some_o unto_o who_o we_o do_v not_o administer_v the_o lord_n supper_n if_o the_o rule_n and_o institution_n concern_v these_o two_o sacrament_n do_v extend_v the_o one_o further_o than_o the_o other_o as_o it_o plain_o do_v when_o it_o appoint_v baptism_n to_o all_o disciple_n or_o to_o run_v parallel_n with_o federal_a holiness_n mat._n 28.19_o but_o the_o lord_n supper_n only_o to_o self-examining_a disciple_n 1_o cor._n 11.28_o than_o the_o one_o may_v be_v extend_v further_a than_o the_o other_o and_o yet_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o one_o no_o more_o undue_a or_o irregular_a and_o pollute_v then_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o other_o sure_o he_o that_o hold_v that_o baptism_n may_v and_o the_o lord_n supper_n may_v not_o be_v administer_v unto_o infant_n as_o we_o suppose_v our_o brethren_n do_v he_o grant_v that_o baptism_n may_v be_v extend_v further_a than_o the_o lord_n supper_n without_o any_o such_o sacrilegious_a impiety_n dreadful_a profâ—rtation_n or_o prostitution_n of_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n as_o be_v here_o harsh_o enough_o express_v neither_o do_v judicious_a calvin_n part_n of_o who_o zealous_a expression_n against_o the_o promiscuous_a administration_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v here_o cite_v in_o the_o preface_n ever_o imagine_v or_o conceive_v that_o it_o be_v any_o such_o profanation_n to_o extend_v baptism_n further_o than_o the_o lord_n supper_n yea_o and_o further_o than_o the_o synod_n do_v when_o as_o he_o set_v down_o that_o answer_n in_o his_o catechism_n that_o be_v above_o allege_a and_o practise_v according_o it_o be_v well_o know_v the_o synod_n do_v not_o pleâ—d_v for_o that_o largeness_n in_o either_o of_o the_o sacrament_n that_o calvin_n allow_v but_o to_o extend_v the_o one_o further_o than_o the_o other_o be_v never_o account_v sacrilegious_a impiety_n in_o orthodox_n divinity_n it_o be_v here_o add_v that_o austin_n plead_v for_o strictness_n in_o the_o administration_n of_o baptism_n and_o tertullian_n beâ—ore_v he_o but_o do_v either_o of_o they_o pleâ—d_n for_o great_a strictness_n than_o the_o synod_n do_v unless_o where_o tertullian_n erroneous_o and_o weak_o plead_v for_o the_o delay_n of_o baptism_n which_o be_v note_v 83._o for_o one_o of_o his_o navi_fw-la certain_o man_n will_v say_v when_o they_o look_v upon_o what_o be_v publish_v by_o the_o synod_n and_o their_o wary_a qualify_a of_o the_o five_o proposition_n about_o which_o the_o controversy_n be_v that_o they_o be_v for_o much_o strictness_n in_o the_o administration_n of_o baptism_n and_o many_o will_v think_v we_o too_o strict_a we_o doubt_v not_o but_o we_o may_v safe_o say_v that_o no_o man_n can_v show_v any_o thing_n out_o of_o austin_n that_o will_v speak_v he_o to_o be_v against_o the_o baptise_v of_o such_o as_o the_o synod_n plead_v for_o yea_o he_o require_v not_o more_o of_o adult_n convert_v from_o heathenism_n for_o their_o own_o baptism_n then_o be_v in_o the_o parent_n who_o be_v describe_v by_o the_o synod_n that_o book_n of_o his_o de_fw-la fide_fw-la &_o operibus_fw-la be_v against_o the_o baptise_v of_o notorious_a scandalous_a liver_n who_o he_o will_v not_o have_v baptize_v tho_o seem_o turn_v from_o heathenism_n till_o they_o serious_o promise_v reformation_n but_o that_o austin_n in_o stead_n of_o be_v for_o more_o strictness_n hold_v for_o a_o large_a extent_n of_o baptism_n than_o the_o synod_n do_v may_v easy_o be_v evince_v 22._o how_o strange_a be_v it_o to_o see_v their_o authority_n still_o allege_v against_o we_o who_o be_v not_o only_o full_o with_o we_o in_o this_o matter_n but_o go_v further_o than_o we_o the_o seven_o reason_n of_o our_o brethren_n dissent_n be_v this_o it_o have_v in_o it_o a_o natural_a tendency_n to_o the_o â—ardning_v of_o unregenerate_a creature_n in_o their_o sinful_a natural_a condition_n when_o life_n be_v not_o only_o promise_v but_o seal_v to_o they_o by_o the_o precious_a blood_n of_o jesus_n christ._n baptism_n be_v a_o seal_n of_o the_o whole_a coâ—enant_n of_o grace_n â—_o as_o well_o as_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o therefore_o those_o that_o be_v not_o interest_v in_o this_o covenant_n by_o faith_n ought_v not_o to_o have_v the_o seal_n thereof_o apply_v to_o they_o ans._n 1._o the_o lord_n truth_n and_o grace_n however_o it_o may_v be_v abuse_v by_o the_o corruption_n of_o man_n perverse_a and_o sinful_a nature_n have_v not_o in_o itself_o any_o natural_a tendency_n to_o harden_v any_o but_o the_o contrary_n and_o how_o can_v the_o doctrine_n in_o hand_n have_v any_o such_o natural_a tendency_n when_o as_o man_n be_v tell_v over_o and_o over_o that_o only_o outward_a advantage_n and_o dispensation_n be_v seal_v to_o they_o in_o baptism_n more_o absolute_o rom._n 3.1_o 2._o â—_o 9.4_o but_o the_o save_a benefit_n of_o the_o covenant_n or_o life_n eternal_a conditional_o see_v mr._n shepherd_n late_o print_v letter_n pag._n 3_o 6._o so_o that_o if_o they_o fail_v of_o the_o condition_n viz._n effectual_a and_o unfeigned_a faith_n they_o miss_v of_o salvation_n notwithstanding_o their_o baptism_n and_o external_a covenant-estate_n and_o hence_o that_o there_o be_v no_o certain_a but_o only_o a_o probable_a connexion_n between_o federal_a holiness_n as_o apply_v to_o
apply_v to_o they_o in_o all_o this_o therefore_o we_o see_v no_o sufficient_a ground_n or_o reason_n to_o necessitate_v a_o dissent_n from_o the_o synod_n our_o brethren_n have_v one_o thing_n more_o yet_o to_o add_v viz._n that_o there_o be_v danger_n of_o great_a corruption_n and_o pollution_n creep_v into_o the_o church_n by_o the_o enlargement_n of_o the_o subject_a of_o baptism_n answ._n 1._o and_o be_v there_o no_o danger_n of_o corruption_n by_o over-straitning_a the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n certain_o it_o be_v a_o corruption_n to_o take_v from_o the_o rule_n as_o well_o as_o to_o add_v to_o it_o and_o a_o corruption_n that_o our_o weakness_n be_v in_o danger_n of_o and_o it_o be_v a_o dangerous_a thing_n to_o be_v guilty_a of_o break_v god_n covenant_n by_o not_o apply_v the_o initiate_a seal_n unto_o those_o it_o be_v appoint_v for_o even_o unto_o all_o that_o be_v in_o covenant_n gen._n 17.9_o 10_o 14._o moses_n find_v danger_n in_o it_o exod._n 4.24_o be_v there_o no_o danger_n of_o put_v those_o out_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n who_o christ_n will_v have_v keep_v in_o and_o deprive_v they_o of_o those_o church_n advantage_n rom._n 3.1_o 2._o that_o may_v help_v they_o towards_o heaven_n even_o christ_n own_o disciple_n may_v be_v in_o danger_n of_o incur_v his_o displeasure_n by_o keep_v poor_a little_a oneâ—_n away_o from_o he_o mark_v 10.13_o 14._o to_o go_v pluck_v up_o all_o the_o tare_n be_v a_o â—ealous_a motion_n and_o have_v a_o good_a intention_n but_o the_o housholder_n conclude_v there_o be_v danger_n in_o it_o of_o pluck_v up_o the_o wheat_n also_o 2._o if_o the_o enlargement_n be_v beyond_o the_o bound_n of_o the_o rule_n it_o will_v bring_v in_o corruption_n else_o not_o our_o work_n be_v therefore_o to_o study_v the_o rule_n and_o keep_v close_o to_o that_o as_o the_o only_a true_a way_n to_o the_o church_n purity_n and_o glory_n to_o go_v aside_o from_o that_o to_o the_o right_a hand_n wlll_v bring_v corruption_n as_o well_o as_o to_o go_v to_o the_o left_a the_o way_n of_o anabaptist_n viz._n to_o admit_v none_o to_o membership_n and_o baptism_n but_o adult_n professor_n be_v the_o straight_a way_n and_o one_o will_v think_v it_o shall_v be_v a_o way_n of_o great_a purity_n but_o experience_n have_v abundant_o show_v the_o contrary_a that_o it_o have_v be_v a_o inlet_n to_o great_a corruption_n and_o looseness_n both_o in_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n and_o a_o troublesome_a dangerous_a underminer_n of_o reformation_n it_o be_v the_o lord_n own_o way_n and_o his_o institution_n only_o which_o he_o will_v bless_v and_o not_o man_n invention_n though_o never_o so_o plausible_a neither_o have_v god_n in_o his_o wisdom_n so_o institute_v the_o frame_n of_o his_o covenant_n and_o the_o constitution_n of_o the_o church_n thereby_o as_o to_o make_v a_o perfect_a separation_n between_o good_a and_o bad_a or_o to_o make_v the_o work_n of_o conversion_n and_o initial_a instruction_n needless_a in_o the_o church_n conversion_n 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o child_n of_o the_o covenant_n a_o fruit_n of_o the_o covenant_n say_v mr_n coâ—ton_n 29._o if_o we_o do_v not_o keep_v in_o the_o way_n of_o a_o convert_v grace-giving_a covenant_n and_o keep_v person_n under_o those_o church-dispensation_n wherein_o grace_n be_v give_v the_o church_n will_v die_v of_o a_o linger_a though_o not_o of_o a_o violent_a death_n the_o lord_n have_v not_o set_v up_o church_n only_o that_o a_o few_o old_a christian_n may_v keep_v one_o another_o warm_a while_n they_o live_v and_o then_o carry_v away_o the_o church_n into_o the_o cold_a grave_n with_o they_o when_o they_o die_v no_o but_o that_o they_o may_v with_o all_o the_o care_n and_o with_o all_o the_o obligation_n and_o advantage_n to_o that_o care_n that_o may_v be_v 〈◊〉_d up_o still_o successive_o another_o generation_n of_o subject_n to_o christ_n that_o may_v stand_v up_o in_o his_o kingdom_n when_o they_o be_v go_v that_o so_o he_o may_v have_v a_o people_n and_o kingdom_n successive_o continue_v to_o he_o from_o one_o generation_n to_o another_o we_o may_v be_v very_o injurious_a to_o christ_n as_o well_o as_o to_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n by_o too_o much_o straighten_n and_o narrow_a the_o bound_n of_o his_o kingdom_n or_o visible_a church_n here_o on_o earth_n certain_o enlargement_n so_o it_o be_v a_o regular_a enlargement_n thereof_o be_v a_o very_a desirable_a thing_n it_o be_v a_o great_a honour_n to_o christ_n to_o have_v many_o willing_a subject_n as_o these_o be_v willing_a and_o desirous_a to_o be_v under_o the_o government_n of_o christ_n that_o we_o plead_v for_o and_o very_o suitable_a to_o the_o spirit_n and_o grace_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o gospel_n 110.3_o in_o church-reformation_n it_o be_v a_o observable_a truth_n say_v â—areus_fw-la on_o the_o parable_n of_o the_o tare_n that_o those_o that_o be_v for_o too_o much_o strictness_n do_v more_o buâ—t_a then_o profit_v the_o church_n see_v diodaâ—e_n on_o matt._n 13.29_o cyprian_n epist._n 51._o 3._o there_o be_v apparent_o a_o great_a â—anger_n of_o corruption_n to_o the_o church_n by_o enlarge_a the_o subject_n of_o full_a communion_n and_o admit_v unqualify_v or_o mean_o qualify_v person_n to_o the_o lord_n table_n and_o vote_v in_o the_o church_n whereby_o the_o interest_n of_o the_o power_n of_o godliness_n will_v soon_o be_v prejudice_v and_o election_n admission_n censure_n so_o carry_v as_o will_v be_v hazardous_a thereunto_o now_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o this_o be_v and_o will_v be_v the_o temptation_n viz._n to_o ever-enlarge_a full_a communion_n it_o baptism_n be_v limit_v to_o the_o child_n of_o such_o as_o be_v admit_v thereunto_o and_o it_o be_v easy_a to_o observe_v that_o many_o of_o the_o reason_n of_o our_o brethren_n and_o other_o be_v more_o against_o the_o non-admission_n of_o the_o parent_n in_o question_n to_o full_a communion_n then_o against_o the_o admission_n of_o their_o child_n to_o baptism_n how_o unreasonable_a be_v it_o then_o to_o object_n against_o we_o â—s_a corrupter_n of_o the_o church_n when_o we_o stand_v for_o a_o great_a strictness_n than_o they_o in_o that_o wherein_o the_o main_a danger_n of_o church-corrupting_a lie_n we_o doubt_v not_o to_o affirm_v that_o that_o principle_n which_o have_v be_v hold_v forth_o by_o our_o brethren_n viz._n that_o if_o the_o church_n can_v have_v any_o hope_n of_o person_n that_o they_o have_v any_o thing_n of_o faith_n and_o grace_n iâ—_n they_o though_o never_o so_o little_a they_o ought_v be_v adult_n to_o be_v admit_v to_o full_a communion_n this_o we_o say_v will_n if_o follow_v bring_v corruption_n and_o impurity_n into_o church_n for_o he_o must_v abandon_v all_o the_o rule_n of_o charity_n that_o can_v hope_v this_o of_o multitude_n of_o young_a person_n that_o grow_v up_o among_o we_o who_o yet_o if_o they_o be_v present_o admit_v to_o full_a communion_n we_o shall_v soon_o feel_v a_o change_n in_o the_o management_n of_o churchâ—affairs_n and_o the_o interest_n of_o formality_n and_o common_a profession_n will_v soon_o be_v advance_v above_o the_o interest_n of_o the_o power_n of_o godliness_n whether_o we_o be_v in_o the_o right_n in_o this_o matter_n of_o strictness_n as_o to_o full_a communion_n scripture_n and_o reason_n must_v determine_v and_o be_v this_o the_o place_n of_o that_o dispute_n we_o have_v much_o to_o say_v in_o it_o and_o to_o be_v sure_a the_o practice_n of_o these_o church_n hitherto_o have_v be_v for_o it_o as_o also_o their_o profession_n in_o the_o synod_n in_o 1648._o platform_n of_o discipline_n cap._n 12._o sect._n 7._o hence_o to_o depart_v from_o that_o will_v be_v a_o real_a departure_n from_o our_o former_a practice_n and_o profession_n whereas_o to_o enlarge_v baptism_n to_o the_o child_n of_o all_o that_o stand_v in_o the_o church_n be_v but_o a_o progress_n to_o that_o practice_n that_o suit_v with_o our_o profession_n but_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o we_o be_v and_o stand_v for_o the_o purity_n of_o the_o church_n when_o as_o we_o stand_v for_o such_o qualification_n as_o we_o do_v in_o those_o we_o will_v admit_v to_o full_a communion_n and_o do_v withstand_v those_o notion_n and_o reason_n that_o will_v infer_v a_o laxness_n therein_o which_o have_v apparent_a peril_n in_o it_o but_o we_o can_v hardly_o imagine_v what_o hurt_v it_o will_v do_v or_o what_o danger_n of_o spoil_v the_o church_n there_o be_v in_o it_o for_o poor_a child_n to_o be_v take_v within_o the_o verge_n of_o the_o church_n under_o the_o wing_n of_o christ_n in_o his_o ordinance_n and_o to_o be_v under_o church-care_n and_o discipline_n and_o government_n for_o their_o soul_n good_a to_o be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o initiation_n and_o education_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o consequent_o to_o have_v baptism_n which_o be_v the_o seal_n of_o initiation_n when_o as_o they_o shall_v not_o
if_o actual_a be_v contradistinct_a from_o potential_a then_o they_o that_o be_v member_n according_a to_o scripture_n be_v actual_a member_n and_o not_o only_o potential_a or_o potential_o such_o for_o such_o potential_a member_n the_o scripture_n approve_v not_o upon_o these_o ground_n we_o see_v no_o necessity_n of_o the_o alteration_n forementioned_a propos._n 3_o the_o infant-seed_n etc._n etc._n when_o grow_v up_o be_v personal_o under_o the_o watch_n discipline_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n arg._n 1._o child_n be_v under_o patriarchall_a and_o moysaicall_a discipline_n of_o old_a etc._n etc._n reply_n the_o text_n allege_v viz._n gen._n 18.19_o &_o 21.9_o 10.12_o and_o gal._n 5.3_o do_v not_o prove_v the_o antecedent_n viz._n that_o child_n be_v under_o patriarchal_a and_o moysaicall_a discipline_n p._n 10._o ans._n and_o yet_o for_o the_o one_o of_o these_o the_o reverend_a author_n confess_v in_o answer_n to_o this_o argument_n pag._n 11.12_o that_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o patriarch_n family_n be_v to_o continue_v in_o communion_n with_o the_o church_n from_o their_o be_v circumcise_v all_o the_o day_n of_o their_o life_n until_o they_o be_v cast_v out_o as_o ishmael_n or_o voluntary_o depart_v from_o it_o as_o esau._n and_o do_v not_o this_o sufficient_o imply_v that_o child_n in_o those_o church_n when_o adult_n be_v under_o discipline_n in_o those_o church_n for_o can_v we_o think_v that_o those_o church_n have_v no_o church-discipline_n in_o they_o or_o that_o the_o member_n of_o they_o be_v not_o under_o that_o discipline_n or_o the_o child_n when_o grow_v up_o be_v not_o member_n sure_o if_o they_o continue_v in_o communion_n with_o the_o church_n from_o their_o be_v circumcise_v all_o the_o day_n of_o their_o life_n until_o they_o be_v cast_v out_o or_o do_v voluntary_o go_v away_o than_o it_o be_v not_o mere_a grow_v up_o to_o be_v adult_n that_o cause_v their_o church-relation_n or_o communion_n with_o the_o church_n to_o cease_v and_o if_o their_o communion_n with_o the_o church_n do_v not_o cease_v but_o continue_v how_o can_v it_o be_v avoid_v but_o they_o be_v under_o church-discipline_n where_o shall_v we_o find_v ground_n from_o scripture_n or_o good_a reason_n that_o these_o child_n when_o adult_n do_v still_o continue_v in_o communion_n with_o the_o church_n and_o yet_o be_v not_o under_o the_o church-discipline_n that_o then_o be_v it_o seem_v to_o we_o that_o the_o one_o of_o these_o which_o the_o reverend_a author_n do_v express_o affirm_v do_v unavoidable_o imply_v the_o other_o which_o be_v affirm_v by_o the_o synod_n there_o may_v be_v many_o child_n in_o those_o family_n of_o the_o patriarch_n who_o when_o they_o be_v adult_n be_v neither_o cast_v out_o as_o ishmael_n nor_o depart_v as_o esau_n and_o these_o continue_n in_o communion_n with_o the_o church_n all_o the_o day_n of_o their_o life_n from_o their_o be_v circumcise_v as_o the_o reverend_a author_n say_v they_o do_v they_o be_v therefore_o under_o the_o church-discipline_n that_o then_o be_v and_o if_o they_o may_v be_v cast_v out_o as_o ishmael_n be_v gen._n 21._o as_o the_o reverend_a author_n confess_v it_o can_v be_v deny_v but_o that_o there_o be_v discipline_n in_o those_o church_n and_o that_o child_n when_o grow_v up_o be_v subject_a thereto_o for_o as_o for_o that_o which_o the_o reverend_a author_n suggest_v pag._n 11._o that_o ishmael_n be_v thirteen_o year_n old_a when_o he_o be_v circumcise_v be_v then_o admit_v into_o church-fellowship_n and_o full_a communion_n by_o his_o personal_a covenant_v be_v at_o year_n of_o discretion_n the_o answer_n be_v that_o it_o be_v very_o unusual_a that_o child_n at_o thirteen_o year_n of_o age_n shall_v be_v fit_a for_o full_a communion_n and_o as_o for_o ishmael_n there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n testify_v of_o he_o in_o the_o scripture_n but_o on_o the_o contrary_a when_o the_o lord_n say_v he_o shall_v be_v a_o wild_a man_n and_o his_o hand_n against_o every_o man_n and_o every_o man_n hand_n against_o he_o gen._n 16._o &_o when_o as_o he_o soon_o after_o become_v such_o a_o mocker_n and_o persecutor_n gen._n 21._o gal._n 4._o as_o that_o for_o it_o he_o be_v cast_v out_o gen._n 21._o it_o be_v therefore_o not_o very_o probable_a that_o he_o at_o thirteen_o year_n of_o age_n have_v so_o much_o goodness_n in_o he_o as_o that_o upon_o the_o profession_n thereof_o he_o shall_v then_o be_v admit_v to_o full_a communion_n it_o seem_v to_o we_o more_o probable_a consider_v the_o thing_n mention_v that_o he_o be_v admit_v as_o a_o child_n in_o minority_n by_o virtue_n of_o the_o covenant_n with_o abraham_n and_o his_o seed_n and_o yet_o when_o grow_v up_o he_o be_v so_o under_o discipline_n as_o to_o be_v cast_v out_o for_o his_o wickedness_n and_o for_o that_o other_o of_o mosaical_a discipline_n the_o reverend_a author_n confess_v p._n 11_o 12._o that_o all_o the_o grow_v member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o israel_n be_v bring_v under_o such_o discipline_n as_o be_v establish_v in_o that_o church_n by_o a_o solemn_a covenant_n whereof_o all_o adult_n person_n be_v to_o take_v hold_v personal_o and_o if_o all_o the_o grow_v member_n of_o that_o church_n be_v bring_v under_o such_o discipline_n as_o be_v then_o establish_v than_o the_o other_o particular_a in_o the_o antecedent_n that_o child_n be_v uâ—der_o mosaical_a discipline_n be_v here_o also_o confess_v by_o the_o author_n indeed_o he_o conceive_v they_o be_v bring_v under_o discipline_n by_o covenant_v personal_o but_o that_o be_v not_o clear_a but_o for_o the_o thing_n itself_o that_o they_o be_v under_o discipline_n this_o we_o see_v be_v by_o he_o confess_v which_o be_v that_o which_o the_o synod_n affirm_v and_o why_o may_v not_o that_o text_n gal._n 5.3_o be_v a_o sufficient_a proof_n thereof_o if_o they_o that_o be_v circumcise_v be_v bind_v to_o all_o the_o duty_n of_o the_o law_n as_o the_o text_n affirm_v then_o they_o be_v bind_v to_o that_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n that_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n appoint_v and_o therefore_o child_n be_v circumcise_v be_v so_o bind_v even_o when_o they_o be_v adult_n for_o than_o they_o remain_v circumcise_v there_o be_v good_a expositor_n who_o upon_o that_o text_n do_v teach_v that_o circumcision_n be_v a_o obligation_n to_o the_o keep_n of_o all_o the_o commandment_n of_o the_o law_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o that_o baptism_n be_v the_o like_a for_o all_o the_o commandment_n of_o the_o gospel_n see_v paraeus_n and_o perkins_n in_o loc_n whereby_o it_o appear_v that_o what_o discipline_n be_v under_o the_o old_a testament_n child_n circumcise_v in_o infancy_n be_v subject_a thereto_o when_o adult_n as_o be_v bind_v by_o their_o circumcision_n to_o all_o the_o commandment_n of_o the_o law_n so_o much_o for_o defence_n of_o the_o antecedent_n in_o this_o argument_n but_o say_v the_o reverend_a author_n though_o the_o antecedent_n be_v more_o manifest_o true_a yet_o the_o consequent_a be_v not_o good_a for_o there_o be_v not_o par_fw-fr ratio_fw-la the_o like_a reason_n of_o those_o patriarchal_a and_o moysaicall_a church_n and_o of_o congregational_a church_n under_o the_o gospel_n page_n 11._o ans._n and_o yet_o the_o reverend_a author_n confess_v in_o position_n the_o five_o and_o six_o that_o the_o covenant_n of_o abraham_n be_v the_o same_o in_o substance_n under_o the_o law_n and_o under_o the_o gospel_n and_o that_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n be_v the_o same_o in_o substance_n which_o be_v take_v from_o the_o jew_n and_o give_v to_o the_o gentile_n yea_o and_o that_o baptism_n be_v come_v in_o the_o place_n of_o circumcision_n and_o therefore_o infant_n of_o confederate_n be_v now_o to_o be_v baptise_a as_o than_o they_o be_v to_o be_v circumcise_v they_o be_v both_o outward_a seal_n of_o the_o same_o covenant_n in_o substance_n so_o that_o here_o seem_v to_o be_v a_o plain_a acknowledgement_n that_o there_o be_v par_fw-fr ratio_fw-la though_o in_o the_o place_n in_o hand_n it_o be_v deny_v for_o if_o the_o covenant_n be_v for_o substance_n the_o same_o now_o as_o it_o be_v then_o and_o that_o therefore_o baptism_n may_v be_v now_o dispense_v to_o infant_n as_o circumcision_n be_v then_o those_o ordinance_n be_v both_o seal_n of_o the_o same_o covenant_n for_o substance_n be_v not_o this_o a_o acknowledgement_n of_o a_o par_fw-fr ratio_fw-la between_o they_o and_o if_o so_o what_o shall_v hinder_v but_o that_o child_n when_o grow_v up_o may_v as_o well_o be_v under_o church-discipline_n now_o as_o under_o the_o old_a testament_n for_o may_v they_o be_v now_o baptise_a in_o their_o infancy_n as_o than_o they_o be_v circumcise_a because_o there_o be_v in_o both_o par_fw-fr ratio_fw-la and_o may_v they_o be_v then_o under_o church-discipline_n and_o yet_o now_o not_o so_o because_o here_o there_o be_v not_o par_fw-fr ratio_fw-la be_v
that_o three_o year_n of_o tything_n then_o â—_o can_v be_v that_o by_o this_o covenant_n they_o be_v bring_v under_o discipline_n for_o they_o be_v adult_n and_o so_o under_o discipline_n afore_o or_o if_o the_o covenant_n here_o mention_v be_v not_o enter_v into_o at_o the_o three_o year_n of_o tything_n then_o why_o may_v it_o not_o be_v of_o all_o the_o people_n joint_o together_o and_o not_o of_o any_o particular_a person_n several_o by_o themselves_o there_o be_v nothing_o in_o the_o text_n contrary_a to_o this_o but_o rather_o for_o it_o in_o that_o the_o covenancer_n here_o speak_v of_o be_v avouch_v that_o day_n to_o be_v the_o lord_n peculiar_a people_n ver_fw-la 18_o 19_o which_o title_n of_o people_n be_v not_o suitable_a to_o any_o particular_a person_n and_o sure_o it_o be_v that_o covenant_n deut_n 29.10_o 11_o etc._n etc._n be_v of_o all_o the_o people_n joint_o together_o for_o it_o be_v a_o covenant_n not_o only_o with_o man_n but_o with_o woman_n yea_o with_o little_a child_n and_o with_o such_o as_o be_v not_o there_o that_o day_n but_o with_o posterity_n that_o shall_v be_v afterward_o bear_v and_o therefore_o this_o be_v not_o only_o a_o covenant_n of_o the_o adult_n to_o bring_v they_o under_o church-discipline_n as_o if_o else_o they_o have_v not_o be_v under_o it_o but_o be_v also_o with_o little_a one_o that_o be_v then_o in_o minority_n it_o may_v suffice_v to_o bring_v they_o under_o discipline_n when_o they_o shall_v be_v grow_v up_o so_o that_o nothing_o do_v yet_o appear_v to_o prove_v that_o â—â—ult_n person_n in_o israel_n be_v not_o under_o discipline_n in_o that_o church_n but_o by_o their_o take_n hold_v of_o the_o covenant_n personal_o but_o for_o aught_o that_o do_v yet_o appear_v they_o may_v be_v under_o discipline_n afore_o they_o have_v thus_o do_v therefore_o we_o yet_o see_v not_o any_o such_o disparity_n between_o the_o patriarchall_a and_o mosaical_a church_n former_o and_o the_o congregationall_a church_n under_o the._n new_a testament_n but_o that_o from_o the_o subjection_n of_o child_n when_o adult_n unto_o church-discipline_n in_o the_o former_a may_v be_v just_o infer_v their_o subjection_n thereto_o in_o the_o latter_a so_o much_o for_o defence_n of_o the_o synod_n first_o argument_n to_o prove_v that_o child_n of_o church-member_n when_o adult_n be_v under_o the_o watch_n discipline_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n to_o the_o second_o argument_n to_o prove_v child_n when_o adult_a subject_n to_o church-discipline_n viz._n because_o they_o be_v within_o the_o church_n or_o member_n thereof_o and_o therefore_o subject_a to_o church-judicature_n 1_o cor._n 5.12_o the_o answer_n that_o be_v give_v be_v that_o the_o argument_n be_v to_o be_v deny_v and_o the_o text_n allege_v do_v not_o prove_v it_o ans._n the_o word_n of_o the_o text_n be_v express_v and_o plain_a what_o have_v i_o to_o do_v to_o judge_v they_o also_o that_o be_v without_o do_v you_o not_o judge_v they_o that_o be_v within_o but_o they_o that_o be_v without_o god_n judge_v by_o which_o it_o be_v plain_a and_o undeniable_a that_o though_o those_o that_o be_v without_o be_v not_o subject_a to_o church-judicature_n or_o church-discipline_n yet_o for_o those_o that_o be_v within_o it_o be_v otherwise_o and_o therefore_o if_o these_o child_n be_v within_o to_o deny_v they_o to_o be_v subject_a to_o church-judicature_n be_v to_o deny_v the_o word_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n as_o for_o that_o which_o be_v here_o say_v that_o by_o they_o within_o be_v mean_v member_n in_o full_a communion_n such_o as_o be_v in_o full_a membership_n as_o well_o of_o all_o other_o ordinance_n as_o of_o censure_n our_o answer_n be_v that_o this_o shall_v be_v prove_v as_o well_o as_o affirm_v for_o affirmanti_fw-la incumbit_fw-la probatio_fw-la it_o be_v wont_a to_o be_v say_v non_fw-la est_fw-la distinguendum_fw-la ubi_fw-la lex_fw-la non_fw-la distinguit_fw-la distinction_n shall_v be_v warrant_v by_o the_o word_n therefore_o when_o the_o word_n say_v such_o as_o be_v within_o be_v subject_a to_o church-judicature_n to_o restrain_v this_o be_v within_o to_o those_o that_o be_v in_o full_a communion_n in_o all_o ordinance_n and_o to_o exempt_v many_o other_o though_o adult_n person_n and_o within_o the_o church_n only_o because_o they_o be_v not_o so_o withâ—n_o as_o to_o be_v in_o full_a communion_n we_o say_v to_o exempt_v they_o upon_o this_o ground_n from_o church-judicature_n be_v more_o than_o we_o see_v any_o sufficient_a proof_n for_o as_o for_o the_o reason_n here_o render_v that_o excommunication_n be_v a_o cast_v out_o from_o communion_n and_o therefore_o how_o can_v any_o be_v formal_o excommunicate_v who_o be_v never_o in_o communion_n and_o so_o within_o the_o church_n the_o answer_n be_v that_o the_o synod_n do_v not_o here_o express_o speak_v of_o excommunication_n and_o that_o the_o child_n be_v subject_a to_o that_o ordinance_n but_o only_o say_v they_o be_v under_o the_o watch_n discipline_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o need_n here_o to_o answer_v that_o they_o can_v be_v excommunicate_v for_o if_o that_o be_v so_o which_o we_o be_v far_o from_o grant_v yet_o what_o the_o synod_n here_o say_v may_v be_v true_a fâ—r_n all_o this_o and_o though_o â—t_a be_v true_a that_o such_o as_o be_v never_o in_o church-communion_n at_o all_o can_v proper_o be_v excommunicate_v yet_o the_o reverend_a author_n we_o suppose_v do_v not_o nor_o will_v deny_v but_o that_o many_o who_o have_v never_o yet_o be_v partaker_n of_o all_o ordinance_n or_o of_o the_o lordâ—_n supper_n as_o child_n in_o minority_n yet_o may_v be_v count_v church-members_a and_o so_o have_v much_o church-communion_n and_o enjoy_v much_o benefit_n thereby_o as_o the_o covenant_n and_o baptism_n the_o seal_n thereof_o the_o prayer_n and_o blessing_n of_o the_o church_n church-watchfulness_n to_o excite_v they_o and_o encourage_v they_o to_o and_o in_o good_a and_o to_o reclaim_v they_o from_o evil_a such_o church-communion_n as_o this_o they_o may_v be_v partaker_n of_o who_o yâ—â—_n have_v not_o be_v admit_v to_o full_a communion_n and_o therefore_o what_o impossibility_n be_v there_o in_o it_o but_o that_o man_n may_v be_v excommunicate_v viz._n from_o such_o communion_n as_o they_o have_v though_o they_o never_o have_v such_o full_a communion_n as_o other_o if_o a_o parent_n in_o full_a communion_n be_v just_o for_o some_o delinquency_n excommunicate_v we_o suppose_v the_o reverend_a author_n 4._o will_v say_v that_o his_o child_n in_o minority_n be_v cut_v off_o from_o their_o membership_n with_o he_o and_o so_o be_v excommunicate_v with_o the_o paâ—ent_n and_o if_o so_o then_o there_o may_v be_v excommunication_n where_o there_o never_o be_v the_o enjoyment_n of_o full_a communion_n and_o so_o for_o all_o that_o be_v here_o say_v that_o â—_z not_o in_o full_a communion_n can_v be_v excommunicate_v yet_o what_o the_o synod_n say_v may_v be_v true_a that_o person_n not_o in_o full_a communion_n may_v be_v under_o the_o watch_n and_o discipline_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n and_o how_o much_o more_o if_o even_o such_o person_n may_v be_v cut_v off_o from_o their_o church-membership_a and_o so_o from_o what_o church-communion_n they_o have_v to_o the_o three_o argument_n to_o prove_v child_n of_o church-member_n when_o adult_n to_o be_v under_o the_o watch_n discipline_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n viz._n because_o they_o be_v disciple_n and_o therefore_o under_o discipline_n in_o christ_n school_n the_o reverend_a author_n answer_n have_v in_o it_o a_o concession_n and_o a_o exception_n the_o concession_n be_v that_o all_o church-member_n be_v disciple_n infant_n foederâ—lly_o etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o both_o be_v under_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n suitable_o to_o their_o membership_n now_o if_o all_o church-member_n be_v disciple_n and_o therefore_o under_o 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find_v apply_v to_o the_o
in_o they_o not_o be_v the_o same_o but_o distinct_a for_o in_o the_o one_o the_o argument_n be_v from_o their_o be_v disciple_n or_o scholar_n and_o therefore_o under_o discipline_n in_o christ_n school_n but_o this_o here_o be_v from_o their_o be_v baptise_a and_o that_o therefore_o they_o be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o subjection_n to_o the_o authoritative_a teach_n of_o christ_n minister_n and_o to_o the_o observation_n of_o all_o his_o commandment_n and_o that_o therefore_o they_o be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o subjection_n to_o discipline_n for_o thus_o the_o argument_n stand_v they_o that_o be_v baptise_a be_v thereby_o leave_v in_o a_o state_n of_o subject_n on_o to_o the_o authoritative_a teach_n of_o christ_n minister_n and_o to_o the_o observation_n of_o all_o his_o commandment_n and_o therefore_o in_o a_o state_n of_o subjection_n to_o discipline_n but_o the_o adult_a person_n speak_v of_o be_v person_n baptise_a therefore_o etc._n etc._n the_o proposition_n be_v ground_v on_o the_o text_n mat._n 28.19_o 20._o where_o christ_n minister_n be_v require_v to_o baptise_v and_o to_o teach_v the_o baptise_a to_o observe_v all_o his_o commandment_n the_o assumption_n be_v plain_a of_o itself_o to_o the_o seven_o argument_n viz._n that_o elder_n must_v seed_v i._n e._n both_o teach_v and_o rule_v all_o the_o flock_n and_o that_o child_n be_v part_n of_o the_o flock_n the_o reverend_a author_n answer_v that_o this_o concern_v not_o such_o grow_a person_n as_o be_v not_o in_o full_a communion_n for_o without_o this_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v account_v of_o the_o flock_n or_o church_n ans._n if_o this_o that_o be_v here_o say_v be_v sufficient_o and_o clear_o prove_v it_o will_v be_v very_o acceptable_a to_o many_o elder_n in_o this_o country_n as_o clear_v they_o from_o a_o great_a part_n of_o the_o burden_n which_o they_o suppose_v themselves_o to_o be_v under_o and_o when_o the_o holy-ghost_n say_v that_o they_o must_v take_v heed_n to_o themselves_o and_o to_o all_o the_o flock_n act._n 20_o 28._o and_o that_o they_o must_v watch_v for_o their_o soul_n as_o they_o that_o must_v give_v account_n heb._n 13.17_o to_o say_v that_o these_o soul_n and_o this_o flock_n be_v only_o such_o as_o be_v in_o full_a communion_n and_o infant_n or_o child_n in_o minority_n and_o that_o these_o last_o mention_v who_o then_o be_v of_o the_o flock_n do_v now_o cease_v to_o be_v of_o it_o when_o they_o become_v â—aul_v and_o that_o now_o the_o elder_n be_v not_o charge_v to_o watch_v over_o they_o any_o long_o nor_o to_o give_v account_n of_o their_o soul_n we_o fear_v this_o will_v be_v a_o undue_a straighten_n and_o limit_v of_o the_o text_n allege_v and_o will_v be_v no_o good_a plea_n before_o the_o lord_n and_o therefore_o without_o bâ—tâ—er_a proof_n we_o dare_v not_o assent_v unto_o it_o for_o what_o the_o synod_n allege_v that_o the_o apostle_n write_v to_o the_o fâ—ock_n or_o church_n at_o ephesus_n do_v also_o write_v to_o child_n eph._n 6.1_o as_o count_v they_o part_n of_o the_o flock_n we_o do_v not_o see_v that_o this_o be_v sufficient_o take_v off_o by_o what_o the_o reverend_a author_n answer_v viz._n that_o those_o child_n be_v either_o child_n in_o their_o minority_n or_o if_o adult_n they_o be_v personal_o join_v to_o the_o church_n and_o so_o in_o full_a communion_n for_o let_v the_o word_n and_o scope_n of_o the_o text_n be_v consider_v and_o we_o conceive_v it_o will_v appear_v that_o this_o exposition_n of_o the_o place_n be_v too_o narrow_a for_o the_o child_n there_o speak_v of_o be_v such_o as_o be_v bind_v to_o obey_v their_o parent_n in_o the_o lord_n this_o be_v right_o and_o such_o as_o be_v under_o the_o five_o commandment_n the_o word_n whereof_o the_o apostle_n do_v there_o allege_v honour_v thy_o father_n and_o mother_n etc._n etc._n now_o how_o shall_v it_o appear_v that_o though_o child_n in_o minority_n and_o child_n when_o admit_v into_o full_a communion_n in_o the_o church_n be_v bind_v to_o obey_v their_o parent_n and_o to_o honour_n father_n and_o mother_n yet_o other_o child_n be_v not_o so_o bind_v be_v there_o any_o ground_n for_o it_o that_o child_n now_o adult_n if_o not_o in_o full_a communion_n in_o the_o church_n be_v exempt_v from_o this_o commandment_n of_o obedience_n to_o their_o parent_n and_o of_o honour_v of_o they_o we_o conceive_v there_o be_v none_o and_o if_o there_o be_v not_o than_o the_o child_n there_o speak_v of_o be_v child_n adult_v as_o well_o as_o other_o whether_o in_o full_a communion_n or_o not_o and_o if_o so_o than_o these_o child_n as_o well_o as_o other_o be_v part_n of_o the_o flock_n and_o church_n of_o ephesus_n to_o who_o that_o epistle_n be_v write_v and_o then_o the_o whole_a flock_n be_v under_o the_o charge_n of_o elder_n to_o feed_v they_o i._n e._n both_o to_o teach_v and_o kâ—lâ—_n they_o it_o appear_v thereby_o that_o what_o the_o synod_n here_o say_v that_o these_o child_n be_v under_o the_o watch_n and_o discipline_n and_o 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minority_n be_v not_o express_o mention_v in_o the_o text_n no_o more_o than_o child_n when_o adult_n or_o grow_v up_o and_o if_o the_o logician_n rule_v be_v good_a which_o say_v à _fw-la quatenus_fw-la ad_fw-la omne_fw-la valet_fw-la conjâ—quentiâ—_n then_o if_o infant_n and_o child_n in_o minority_n must_v not_o be_v admit_v to_o full_a communion_n because_o of_o their_o want_n of_o the_o ability_n speak_v of_o it_o will_v follow_v if_o the_o like_a inability_n be_v find_v in_o the_o adult_n that_o these_o also_o must_v not_o be_v admit_v and_o that_o for_o the_o like_a reason_n and_o â—f_o that_o text_n 1_o cor._n 11._o be_v sufficient_a to_o prove_v the_o one_o it_o be_v sufficient_a for_o proof_n of_o the_o other_o also_o and_o so_o this_o argument_n of_o the_o synod_n stand_v good_a the_o exception_n he_o add_v be_v that_o yet_o it_o may_v not_o be_v grant_v that_o when_o they_o be_v grow_v up_o to_o year_n they_o be_v and_o continue_v member_n regular_o be_v through_o want_n 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