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A49441 A treatise of the nature of a minister in all its offices to which is annexed an answer to Doctor Forbes concerning the necessity of bishops to ordain, which is an answer to a question, proposed in these late unhappy times, to the author, What is a minister? Lucy, William, 1594-1677. 1670 (1670) Wing L3455; ESTC R11702 218,889 312

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bishop_n of_o the_o diocese_n those_o who_o be_v only_a priest_n can_v not_o thus_o damasus_n his_o argument_n be_v be_v of_o no_o force_n against_o that_o canon_n of_o antioch_n and_o therefore_o vasques_n himself_o acknowledge_v in_o that_o 238._o disp._n cap._n 7._o that_o damasus_n do_v conceive_v that_o in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o council_n of_o antioch_n some_o chori-episcopi_n be_v bishop_n and_o he_o affirm_v that_o if_o they_o have_v episcopal_a consecration_n although_o they_o be_v but_o titular_a bishop_n and_o so_o have_v no_o place_n assign_v at_o their_o consecration_n where_o they_o shall_v officiate_v yet_o they_o have_v that_o power_n grant_v they_o at_o their_o consecration_n which_o may_v be_v reduce_v into_o act_n whensoever_o a_o place_n be_v assign_v they_o and_o yet_o damasus_n condemn_v they_o for_o the_o future_a which_o be_v never_o obey_v sect_n vii_o one_o word_n in_o the_o canon_n more_o explain_v there_o be_v one_o word_n more_o in_o the_o canon_n which_o may_v abide_v a_o misinterpretation_n and_o be_v somewhat_o insist_v upon_o by_o doctor_n forbes_n that_o be_v in_o the_o latter_a end_n of_o the_o canon_n it_o be_v say_v that_o he_o the_o chori-episcopus_a must_v be_v ordain_v by_o the_o bishop_n to_o who_o he_o and_o his_o possession_n be_v subject_a now_o if_o he_o be_v ordain_v by_o one_o bishop_n only_o certain_o he_o be_v but_o a_o presbyter_n for_o although_o as_o i_o have_v say_v in_o a_o case_n of_o necessity_n one_o bishop_n have_v be_v allow_v to_o consecrate_v and_o the_o power_n apostolical_a be_v to_o they_o separative_a to_o every_o one_o to_o ordain_v yet_o when_o law_n be_v substitute_v by_o ecclesiastic_a authority_n for_o the_o well_o government_n of_o the_o church_n and_o severe_a punishment_n inflict_v upon_o the_o violation_n of_o they_o as_o be_v in_o this_o case_n it_o be_v not_o reasonable_a to_o think_v that_o man_n live_v in_o obedience_n to_o that_o church_n shall_v dare_v ●o_o break_v they_o in_o public_a and_o that_o constant_o as_o it_o seem_v this_o be_v for_o answer_v to_o this_o i_o say_v that_o this_o make_v it_o evident_a that_o this_o canon_n be_v deliver_v concern_v a_o double_a sort_n of_o chori-episcopi_n some_o that_o be_v make_v by_o the_o imposition_n of_o hand_n of_o divers_a bishop_n and_o other_o that_o be_v ordain_v by_o one_o only_a which_o be_v all_o be_v require_v and_o so_o i_o will_v pass_v to_o my_o last_o proposal_n to_o show_v what_o these_o chori-episcopi_n be_v chap._n xvi_o what_o the_o chori-episcopi_n be_v it_o be_v a_o hard_a task_n which_o i_o do_v not_o find_v clear_o deliver_v by_o any_o what_o i_o find_v shall_v be_v set_v down_o and_o leave_v the_o determination_n to_o other_o in_o general_a my_o conceit_n of_o they_o be_v this_o that_o as_o it_o happen_v in_o other_o parisnes_n where_o presbyter_n have_v the_o charge_n that_o where_o they_o be_v large_a and_o
although_o perhaps_o some_o who_o have_v not_o and_o i_o think_v there_o be_v little_a of_o moment_n to_o be_v find_v in_o antiquity_n concern_v they_o which_o be_v not_o observe_v by_o i_o there_o be_v a_o epistle_n of_o john_n the_o three_o pope_n of_o that_o name_n but_o it_o be_v reject_v by_o binius_fw-la and_o so_o slight_v by_o i_o and_o yet_o i_o think_v some_o may_v ask_v my_o opinion_n of_o those_o church_n where_o be_v no_o bishop_n first_o i_o dare_v censure_n no_o man_n much_o less_o such_o large_a congregation_n among_o which_o i_o know_v there_o be_v many_o learned_a man_n and_o no_o doubt_n but_o full_a of_o piety_n i_o may_v be_v deceive_v and_o so_o may_v they_o humanum_fw-la est_fw-la errare_fw-la but_o certain_o in_o that_o acquaintance_n that_o i_o have_v with_o antiquity_n there_o seem_v to_o i_o no_o ground_n for_o they_o there_o nor_o in_o the_o scripture_n these_o few_o piece_n which_o this_o learned_a gentleman_n have_v collect_v be_v but_o old_a totered_a rag_n which_o can_v abide_v to_o be_v stitch_v to_o this_o new_a garment_n they_o have_v nothing_o to_o excuse_v themselves_o but_o necessity_n which_o whether_o they_o have_v sufficient_a or_o no_o to_o excuse_v they_o let_v their_o own_o soul_n judge_v god_n will_v i_o dare_v not_o finis_fw-la the_o table_n a_o apostle_n their_o election_n and_o to_o what_o 7._o their_o number_n whence_o their_o name_n their_o office_n 8._o to_o who_o send_v 9_o what_o to_o preach_v 10._o the_o apostle_n power_n whence_o 22._o the_o apostle_n true_o have_v the_o power_n of_o preach_v to_o all_o the_o world_n 23._o 24._o the_o apostle_n only_o commission_v to_o baptise_v 25._o the_o apostle_n only_o to_o administer_v the_o communion_n 27._o b_o baptism_n institute_v by_o our_o saviour_n 12._o the_o baptism_n of_o our_o saviour_n and_o st._n john_n not_o the_o same_o 13._o whether_o our_o sacramental_a baptism_n be_v the_o same_o with_o that_o before_o christ_n death_n 14._o 15._o not_o the_o same_o the_o objection_n answer_v 16._o 17._o the_o baptism_n institute_v by_o christ_n not_o in_o force_n till_o after_o his_o death_n 18._o whether_o baptism_n administer_v by_o layman_n be_v valid_a 29._o of_o bishop_n their_o distinction_n from_o presbyter_n 94_o first_o argument_n from_o scripture_n for_o their_o point_n 96._o the_o argument_n examine_v 97._o and_o answer_v 99_o the_o exception_n that_o titus_n be_v a_o evangilist_n but_o not_o a_o bishop_n answer_v 99_o objection_n for_o their_o point_n from_o act_n 20._o 28._o answer_v 101._o c_o a_o outward_a call_v necessary_a to_o a_o minister_n 129._o this_o call_n have_v a_o moral_a not_o a_o physical_a influence_n 130._o the_o character_n leave_v after_o ordination_n 132._o the_o communion_n institute_v by_o our_o saviour_n 18._o the_o apostle_n minister_n of_o it_o 19_o 20._o institute_v before_o our_o saviour_n death_n 20._o 21._o mutual_n covenant_v of_o the_o saint_n give_v not_o the_o be_v to_o a_o visible_a church_n 157._o what_o this_o covenant_n be_v explicit_fw-la or_o implicit_a 159._o the_o reason_n for_o it_o answer_v 159_o etc._n etc._n other_o argument_n answer_v 165._o 167_o &c_n &c_n d_o the_o election_n of_o the_o seventy_o disciple_n 11._o the_o difference_n betwixt_o they_o and_o the_o apostle_n 96._o deacon_n as_o afterward_o use_v in_o the_o church_n not_o institute_v act_n 6._o 37_o 38._o argument_n prove_v this_o 39_o 40._o the_o oppose_a argument_n answer_v 43._o some_o of_o the_o first_o deacon_n preacher_n 40._o what_o the_o office_n of_o a_o deacon_n 45._o e_o of_o lay-elder_n 59_o what_o a_o lay-elder_n be_v in_o the_o disciplinarian_a sense_n 60._o no_o such_o elder_n in_o scripture_n 61._o place_n of_o scripture_n urge_v for_o they_o answer_v ibid._n three_o argument_n of_o mr._n thomas_n hooker_n for_o lay-elder_n answer_v 62_o &c_n &c_n 69._o 74._o 75._o st._n ●auls_v elder_a signify_v but_o one_o office_n 66._o st._n ambrose_n word_n urge_v for_o lay-elder_n expound_v 86._o etc._n etc._n the_o design_n of_o make_v lay-elder_n 88_o what_o the_o word_n especial_o import_v 1_o tim._n 5._o 17._o 68_o what_o a_o evangelist_n be_v 106._o g_o gift_v man_n may_v preach_v if_o licence_v by_o the_o bishop_n otherwise_o not_o 84_o 85._o h_o what_o double_a honour_n signify_v 1_o tim._n 5._o 17._o 68_o mr._n thomas_n hooker_n opinion_n concern_v deacon_n examine_v 45_o 46._o rom._n 12._o 8._o expound_v against_o he_o 47_o 48._o etc._n etc._n his_o deacon_n enforce_v from_o this_o place_n of_o scripture_n confute_v 53._o the_o first_o confutation_n of_o mr._n thomas_n hooker_n out_o of_o this_o text._n 54_o 55._o his_o second_o argument_n refute_v 56._o his_o three_o argument_n refute_v 57_o his_o first_o argument_n from_o reason_n refute_v 57_o his_o second_o and_o three_o argument_n from_o reason_n answer_v 58._o another_o argument_n answer_v 59_o mr._n thomas_n hooker_n distinction_n of_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n refute_v 90_o etc._n etc._n i_o episcopal_a jurisdiction_n prove_v 115_o l_o what_o labour_v in_o the_o word_n import_v 1_o tim._n 5._o 17._o 67._o 86._o m_o what_o the_o word_n minister_n signify_v 1._o the_o definition_n of_o a_o minister_n 2._o the_o definition_n explain_v 3._o etc._n etc._n the_o power_n to_o be_v a_o minister_n must_v come_v from_o god_n 3._o 6._o motion_n be_v to_o relation_n 208_o 209._o o_o touch_v ordination_n 121._o mr._n thomas_n hooker_n definition_n of_o ordination_n confute_v 122._o what_o ordination_n be_v 123._o ordination_n not_o before_o election_n 224._o man_n may_v be_v ordain_v without_o the_o election_n of_o the_o people_n 125._o whether_o ordination_n give_v all_o the_o essential_o to_o a_o officer_n 128._o of_o pastoral_a ordination_n 140._o p_o st._n peter_n have_v no_o great_a power_n give_v he_o by_o christ_n than_o the_o other_o apostle_n 28._o the_o chief_a argument_n for_o his_o superiority_n answer_v ibid._n a_o vindication_n of_o our_o common_a prayer-book_n in_o the_o number_n 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and_o only_o make_v a_o covenant_n to_o be_v it_o a_o superadded_a covenant_n beyond_o baptism_n page_n 47._o he_o deliver_v that_o this_o covenant_n be_v either_o explicite_fw-la or_o implicit_a explicite_fw-la when_o there_o be_v a_o open_a expression_n and_o profession_n of_o this_o engagement_n in_o the_o face_n of_o the_o assembly_n implicit_a when_o in_o their_o practice_n they_o do_v that_o whereby_o they_o make_v themselves_o engage_v to_o walk_v in_o such_o a_o society_n according_a to_o such_o rule_n of_o government_n which_o be_v execute_v among_o they_o and_o so_o submit_v themselves_o thereto_o but_o do_v not_o make_v any_o verbal_a profession_n thereof_o and_o thus_o he_o say_v the_o people_n in_o the_o parish_n of_o england_n where_o there_o be_v a_o minister_n put_v upon_o they_o by_o the_o patron_n or_o bishop_n they_o constant_o hold_v they_o to_o the_o fellowship_n of_o the_o people_n in_o such_o a_o place_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v warn_v that_o upon_o their_o 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