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A16643 A plaine confutation of a treatise of Brovvnisme, published by some of that faction, entituled: A description of the visible Church In the confutation wherof, is shewed, that the author hath neither described a true gouerment of the Church, nor yet proued, that outward discipline is the life of the Church. Whereunto is annexed an ansvvere vnto two other pamphlets, by the said factioners latelie dispersed, of certaine conferences had with some of them in prison. Wherein is made knowen the inconstancie of this sect, what the articles are which they still maintaine: as also a short confutation of them. There is also added a short ansvvere vnto such argumentes as they haue vsed to proue the Church of England not to be the Church of God. Alison, Richard, controversialist. 1590 (1590) STC 355; ESTC S100153 67,007 148

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epist._n 50._o aug._n ad_fw-la quod_fw-la vult_fw-la deum_fw-la de_fw-fr haer_fw-mi cat_n aug._n in_o psa._n 10._o retrac_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 21._o victoriano_n epist._n 21._o contra_fw-la epist._n parmeniani_n lib._n 1._o cap_n 7_o aug._n donat._n epist._n 204_o cont._n epist._n parmi_fw-fr li._n 1._o ca._n 7_o aug_n epist._n 152_o daneus_n de_fw-fr donat._n cap._n 67._o and_o by_o the_o council_n be_v latin_n august_n contra_fw-la parmi_fw-fr lib._n 1._o cap._n 6_o some_o of_o their_o own_o company_n have_v confess_v it_o august_n ret_n li._n 2_o cap._n 26._o &_o bonifacio_n epi._n 50_o in_o his_o conference_n with_o m._n cooper_n pa._n 49_o aug._n ret_a lib._n 2_o cap._n 59_o 59_o gen._n 1._o 1._o exod._n 20._o 3._o 3._o 1._o timoth._n 2._o 4._o phil._n 2._o 25._o ephes._n 2._o 18._o john_n 8._o 41._o 41._o deut._n 6._o 25._o romans_z 10._o 8._o 2._o timoth._n 3._o 15._o john_n 8._o 51._o john_n 2._o 3._o 4._o etc._n etc._n col._n 1._o 18._o 19_o 20._o so_o they_o speak_v in_o 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3._o 18._o treatise_n of_o the_o church_n apparent_a gen._n 4._o 1._o gen._n 7._o 7._o gen._n 17._o 23._o gen._n 25._o 1._o reg._n 16._o 29._o 30._o matth._n 10._o 4_o matth._n 13._o 30._o &_o 3._o 12._o &_o 25._o 32._o 2._o thess._n 2._o 4._o judg._n 4._o treatise_n of_o the_o church_n apparent_a zach._n 3_o &_o 5._o esa._n 1._o 6._o 2._o sam._n 13._o 2._o sam._n 15._o 2._o sam._n 11._o rom._n 9_o 4_o etc._n etc._n vers_fw-la 6._o zacha_fw-la 13._o 1._o ●_o reg._n 12._o 28._o &_o 1_o reg._n 16_o 32._o 2._o chro._n 33._o in_o a_o treatise_n which_o they_o have_v scatter_v abroad_o in_o his_o pamphlet_n against_o read_v prayer_n and_o treatise_n of_o the_o church_n apparent_a john_n 4._o exod._n 20._o 7._o levit._fw-la 10._o 5._o officer_n math._n 28._o 19_o in_o annota_fw-la bez._n eph._n 4._o matth._n 6._o 12._o in_o this_o treatise_n in_o the_o treatise_n of_o the_o apparent_a church_n church_n ps._n 87._o 2_o 2_o ps._n 87._o 2_o 2_o 1._o ti._n 3._o 15_o heb._n 3._o 6_o 6_o 1._o co._n 3._o 17_o 17_o esa._n 2._o 2_o micha_n 4._o 1_o 1_o zach_n 8._o 3_o 1._o pet._n 2._o 9_o isa._n 51_o and_o 27._o 11._o 11._o can._n 4._o 12._o isa._n 51._o 3_o 3_o isa._n 9_o 25_o 25_o mic._n 3._o 2_o john_n 3._o 3_o 3_o cant._n 5._o 2_o 2_o psa._n 45._o 9_o 9_o 1._o cor._n 12._o 17_o ephe._n 1._o 23_o 23_o gal._n 4._o 28_o 28_o ps._n 147._o 14_o 2._o thes._n 3._o 16_o 16_o isa._n 46._o 13._o zac._n 14._o 17_o 17_o esa._n 60_o ezec._n 47_o zach._n 4._o 12_o 12_o ez._n 48._o 35_o math._n 8._o 20_o esa._n 62_o brownist_n brownist_n can._n 6._o 4._o 9_o 9_o isa._n 62._o 11._o io._n 12._o 15_o heb._n 7._o 8_o 8_o mat._n 11._o 30_o 1._o john_n 5._o 3._o 3._o act._n 20_o 20_o rom._n 12._o 7_o 7_o rom._n 12._o 8_o 8_o act._n 6_o 6_o rom._n 12._o 8_o john_n 13._o 17_o deut._n 13._o 17_o 17_o math._n 5._o 5._o deut._n 18._o 10_o eze._n 36._o 38._o esa._n 60._o 8_o 8_o 1._o reg._n 7._o 9_o zach._n 14._o ●1_n 1_o pet._n 2._o 5_o 5_o gal._n 6._o 2_o 2_o 1._o co._n 12_o rom._n 12._o 3_o 3_o heb._n 10._o 24_o 24_o levi._n 15._o 17_o 1._o thes._n 4._o 9_o 9_o col._n 3._o 23_o 1._o joh._n 3._o 20_o 20_o 2._o col._n 2._o 17_o 3._o john_n 9_o 9_o 1._o ti._n 4._o 2._o 3_o gal._n 6._o 12_o 12_o 1._o cor._n 5_o 5_o jere._n 23._o 28_o 1._o tim._n 3._o 15_o 15_o 1._o cor._n 6._o and_o 14._o 30._o 30._o john_n 10._o 1._o 1._o act._n 1._o 23._o &_o 6._o 3._o &_o 14._o 23_o answer_n cant._n 5._o chrisost._n de_fw-fr sacerd_v li._n 4._o the_o several_a part_n of_o the_o church_n her_o king_n her_o law_n her_o member_n bull_v &_o joh._n bale_n in_o act._n 2._o freneus_fw-la contra_fw-la valent_fw-la li._n 1._o cap._n 27._o tertul_n in_o prescrip_n heret_fw-la caluin_n inst._n lib._n 4._o cap._n 3_o sect._n 15._o act._n 14._o 23._o cipr._n lib._n 1._o epist._n 3._o calu._n ibid._n chrisost._n in_o phil._n hom_n 2._o num._n 16._o 3._o ezra_n 1._o ezra_n 7._o neh._n 1._o 4._o &_o 2._o 5._o brownist_n brownist_n math._n 5._o 17_o 1._o tim._n 1._o 18_o 18_o leu._n 21._o 17_o matth._n 2._o 6._o 1._o tim._n 3._o 2._o 2._o 2._o tim._n 2._o 15._o 15._o tit._n 1._o 9_o 2._o tim._n 4._o 4._o tit._n 1._o 7._o 8_o 8_o num._n 12._o 3_o esa._n 50._o 4_o jere._n 3._o 15_o eze._n 34._o 18._o zach._n 7._o 11_o act._n 20_o 1._o pet._n 5._o 1._o 2._o 3._o 4_o 1._o tim._n 2._o 20_o in_o the_o treatise_n of_o the_o church_n apparent_a in_o another_o pamphlet_n of_o they_o 1._o tim._n 3_o tit._n 1._o 1._o tim._n 1._o 15._o 1._o cor._n 1._o 17_o &_o 2._o 4_o ephe._n 4._o 11_o brownist_n num._n 11._o 24_o 2._o chr._n 19_o 8_o act._n 15_o 1._o tim._n 5_o cal._n inst._n lib_n 4._o cap._n 4._o se._n 1_o cal._n inst._n lib._n 4._o cap._n 3._o sect_n 8._o jer._n in_o tit_n &_o euagrio_n epist_n 58_o num._n 26._o 3._o act._n 6._o 2_o 1._o tim._n 3._o 8._o 9_o chri._n hom_n 2_o in_o philip._n ambros._n in_o ephe._n cap._n 4_o de_fw-fr decret_a nice_n synod_n contra_fw-la eus._n cal._n inst._n lib._n 4._o cap._n 4._o sect_n 5._o 1._o tim._n 9_o 10_o john_n 42._o 2._o 1._o co._n 12._o 12._o 8_o leu._n 10._o 10._o 11_o num._n 18._o 2._o ezec._n 44._o 23._o &_o 34._o 33._o psal._n 23_o john_n 21._o 15_o act._n 20._o 1._o pet._n 5._o 12_o zach._n 11._o 7_o reve._n 22._o 2_o luk._n 12._o 42_o 2._o co._n 10._o 4._o 5_o heb._n 8._o 12_o jere._n 17._o 9_o eze._n 33._o 1._o 1._o cor._n 11._o 19_o joh._n 10._o 11._o 12_o levi._n 10._o 10_o eze._n 44._o 24._o mal._n 2._o 6._o 1._o cor._n 3._o 11_o 2._o cor._n 1._o 7._o and._n 24._o 1._o tim._n 4._o 16_o and_o 6._o 20_o ephe._n 2._o 20_o heb._n 6._o 1_o 1._o pet._n 2._o 2_o num._n 11._o 16_o deut._n 16._o 18_o deut._n 10._o 16_o 2._o chr._n 19_o 8_o exod._n 39_o 42_o 1._o tim._n 3._o 15_o 2._o tim._n 1._o 13._o 1._o cor._n 11._o 16._o &_o 14._o 33._o gal._n 2._o 4._o 5._o col._n 1._o 16._o act._n 20._o 1._o pet._n 5._o 1._o rom._n 12._o 8._o act._n 6._o rom._n 12._o 8._o ●_o tim._n 5._o 9_o rom._n 12._o 8._o luk._n 9_o 46._o john_n 13._o 12._o 1._o co._n 12._o 12._o 25._o 28._o ephes._n 4._o 11._o 12._o 13._o 16._o chryso_v in_o act._n hom_n 1._o rom._n 12._o 6._o 1._o cor._n 7._o 20_o 1._o thes._n 5._o 14._o re._n 19_o 11._o &c_n &c_n reu._n 14._o 12_o cant._n 6._o 3_o reve._n 12._o 11_o luke_n 10._o 18._o 19_o math._n 16._o 18_o ro._n 8._o 38._o 39_o matt._n 16._o 18._o luk._n 10._o 18._o rom._n 8._o 38._o 39_o reu._n 19_o 11._o 14._o reve._n 14._o 12_o math._n 16._o 19_o john_n 20._o 23_o math._n 18._o 18_o john_n 20._o 23_o math._n 16._o 19_o &_o 18._o 18_o in_o the_o treatise_n of_o the_o church_n apparent_a aduersus_fw-la anabapt_n lib._n 6._o cap._n 10_o contra_fw-la parmenianum_fw-la lib._n 3._o cap._n 2._o 1._o cor._n 5._o levit._fw-la 19_o 17._o 18._o math._n 18._o 15_o deut._n 19_o 15_o math._n 18._o 16._o matth._n 18._o 16_o 2._o the._n 5._o 15_o 2._o cor._n 10._o 8_o &_o 13._o 10._o 1._o tim._n 5._o 20_o gal._n 2._o 14._o jos._n 7._o 19_o 2._o co._n 7._o 9_o levit._fw-la 19_o 18._o prou._n 10._o 12_o rom._n 12._o 19_o &_o 13._o 10._o &_o 14._o 1._o gal._n 6._o 1._o 2._o 1._o tim._n 2._o 24_o mark_n 9_o 50._o ephes._n 4._o 25_o jam._n 5._o 5._o 19_o 20._o luk._n 17._o 1._o pro._n 10._o 12._o rom._n 14._o 13_o 19_o gal._n 6._o 2._o tit._n 3._o i0_n act._n 13._o 8._o 9_o gen._n 17._o levi._n 16_o 11_o esa._n 44._o 3._o gal._n 4._o 24._o &_o 6._o 16._o isa._n 60._o 15._o deut._n 4._o 12._o esa._n 56._o 7._o 1._o tim._n 3._o 15._o esa._n 52._o 8._o esa._n 52._o 1._o eze._n 44._o 9_o esa._n 35._o 8._o zac._n 14._o 21._o reu._n 21._o 27._o rom._n 2._o 9_o reu._n 22._o 27._o gen._n 4._o 21._o heb._n 12._o 16._o num._n 16._o 33_o rom._n 9_o 30._o etc._n etc._n adserap_v epist._n 2._o the_o spirit_n san_fw-it de_fw-fr decretis_fw-la nic._n sincci_fw-la the_o article_n of_o brownism_n their_o complaint_n of_o be_v slander_v that_o they_o be_v not_o slander_v porphirius_fw-la de_fw-fr fide_fw-la 1._o cor._n 9_o 13._o ver_fw-la 14._o jer._n 31._o 34._o act._n 10_o 43._o &_o 15._o 9_o in_o their_o first_o &_o three_o conference_n with_o m._n hutchinson_n in_o their_o first_o conference_n with_o master_n hutchinson_n ibidem_fw-la conference_n with_o master_n cooper_n pa._n 59_o joh._n 32._o &_o 7._o 50._o joh._n 19_o 39_o jos._n 5._o 3._o answer_n brownist_n answer_n confer_v with_o spering_n instit._fw-la lib._n 4._o sect_n 4._o conf._n with_o sper._n pag._n 10._o