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A13767 A triple antidote, against certaine very common scandals of this time which, like infections and epidemicall diseases, haue generally annoyed most sorts of people amongst vs, poisoned also not a few, and diuers waies plagued and afflicted the whole state. / By Iohn Tichborne, Doctor of Diuinity, and sometimes fellow of Trinity Colledge in Cambridge.. Tichborne, John, d. 1638. 1609 (1609) STC 24064; ESTC S118413 94,709 132

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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d philaster_n de_fw-fr haeresibus_fw-la in_o regard_v whereof_o some_o of_o the_o christian_n use_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n in_o their_o ring_n some_o at_o the_o entrance_n of_o their_o door_n as_o cirill_n report_v some_o in_o their_o forehead_n and_o some_o in_o a_o preposterous_a zeal_n brand_v their_o own_o flesh_n withal_o the_o like_a also_o be_v practise_v by_o the_o jew_n call_v our_o saviour_n christ_n in_o the_o great_a disgrace_n suspensum_fw-la the_o hang_v man_n to_o who_o that_o of_o hierome_n may_v very_o fit_o be_v oppose_v as_o argue_v both_o the_o antiquity_n and_o lawfulness_n of_o the_o ceremony_n end_n in_o his_o preface_n upon_o job_n towards_o the_o end_n and_o more_o special_o direct_v by_o the_o author_n himself_o to_o aquila_n the_o jew_n and_o the_o rest_n who_o word_n be_v these_o ego_fw-la qui_fw-la de_fw-la christianis_fw-la parentibus_fw-la natus_fw-la sum_fw-la &_o vexillum_fw-la crucis_fw-la in_o frontem_fw-la port●_n &c_n &c_n wherein_o that_o godly_a father_n show_v his_o just_a grief_n and_o indignation_n that_o his_o translation_n be_v not_o so_o well_o regard_v as_o that_o of_o aquila_n simmachus_n and_o the_o rest_n iudaizantes_fw-la haretici_fw-la as_o he_o call_v they_o who_o little_o respect_v the_o honour_n of_o jesus_n as_o he_o show_v there_o ratio_fw-la de_fw-fr operibus_fw-la creationis_fw-la in_o praefatione_fw-la 3_o ratio_fw-la who_o yet_o be_v to_o be_v the_o end_n and_o rule_v of_o all_o translation_n as_o zanchius_n observe_v and_o the_o spirit_n of_o all_o pprophecy_n be_v the_o testimony_n of_o jesus_n revel_v 17._o the_o last_o reason_n for_o the_o ancient_a use_n thereof_o be_v as_o lactantius_n and_o saint_n augustine_n do_v guess_v the_o imitation_n and_o express_v of_o that_o ceremony_n which_o be_v use_v before_o the_o eat_n of_o the_o paschall_n lamb_n by_o cross_v the_o post_n of_o each_o house_n with_o the_o blood_n but_o indeed_o the_o true_a reason_n both_o last_o and_o 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