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quas_fw-la ministrat_n vita_fw-la &_o moribus_fw-la congruat_fw-la non_fw-la propter_fw-la illum_fw-la qui_fw-la etiam_fw-la si_fw-la incurrerit_fw-la in_o ministrum_fw-la malum_fw-la dispensantem_fw-la veritatem_fw-la securitatem_fw-la accipit_fw-la à _fw-la domino_fw-la svo_fw-la monente_fw-la ac_fw-la dicente_fw-la quae_fw-la dicunt_fw-la facite_fw-la quae_fw-la autem_fw-la faciunt_fw-la nolite_fw-la facere_fw-la dicunt_fw-la enim_fw-la &_o non_fw-la faciunt_fw-la addo_n etiam_fw-la ad_fw-la hoc_fw-la esse_fw-la melius_fw-la ut_fw-la ille_fw-la cvi_fw-la ministratur_fw-la ministri_fw-la boni_fw-la probitatem_fw-la ac_fw-la sanctitatem_fw-la diligendo_fw-la faciliùs_fw-la imitetur_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la ideo_fw-la veriora_fw-la &_o sanctiora_fw-la sunt_fw-la quae_fw-la ministrantur_fw-la quia_fw-la per_fw-la meliorem_fw-la ministrantur_fw-la illa_fw-la namque_fw-la per_fw-la seipsa_fw-la vera_fw-la &_o sancta_fw-la sunt_fw-la propter_fw-la deum_fw-la verum_fw-la &_o sanctum_fw-la cvius_fw-la sunt_fw-la &_o ideo_fw-la fieri_fw-la potest_fw-la ut_fw-la accedens_fw-la ad_fw-la societatem_fw-la populi_fw-la dei_fw-la alium_fw-la inveniat_fw-la à _fw-la quo_fw-la facilè_fw-la baptizetur_fw-la alium_fw-la eligat_fw-la quem_fw-la salubriter_fw-la imitetur_fw-la certus_n est_fw-la enim_fw-la sanctum_fw-la esse_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la christi_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la per_fw-la minùs_fw-la sanctum_fw-la vel_fw-la non_fw-la sanctum_fw-la hominem_fw-la ministratum_fw-la est_fw-la se_fw-la autem_fw-la eiusdem_fw-la ipsius_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la sanctitate_fw-la puniri_fw-la si_fw-la indignè_fw-la acceperit_fw-la si_fw-la malè_fw-la usus_fw-la fuerit_fw-la si_fw-la ei_fw-la non_fw-la convenienter_fw-la &_o congruè_fw-fr vixerit_fw-la august_n contra_fw-la cresc_n gram._n lib._n 4._o cap._n 20._o the_o sum_n of_o augustine_n word_n be_v that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v administer_v better_a by_o a_o good_a then_o by_o a_o bad_a minister_n yet_o that_o the_o sacrament_n of_o themselves_o be_v true_a and_o holy_a etc._n etc._n by_o what_o minister_n so_o ever_o they_o be_v deliver_v etc._n etc._n if_o any_o shall_v ask_v i_o whether_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o omit_v the_o partake_n of_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n in_o such_o church_n over_o which_o ignorant_a minister_n be_v set_v and_o to_o present_v ourselves_o and_o our_o infant_n to_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n in_o other_o church_n my_o answer_n be_v that_o i_o refer_v they_o to_o the_o magistrate_n and_o governor_n of_o our_o church_n etc._n etc._n objection_n by_o who_o a_o thing_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v deliver_v by_o another_o it_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v receive_v but_o ignorant_a minister_n ought_v not_o to_o deliver_v the_o sacrament_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n answer_n the_o mayor_n be_v false_a my_o reason_n be_v a_o evil_a man_n ought_v not_o to_o deliver_v the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o we_o ought_v to_o receive_v it_o a_o evil_a man_n ought_v not_o to_o give_v alm_n but_o a_o poor_a man_n may_v receive_v it_o a_o absurd_a minister_n ought_v not_o to_o deliver_v the_o sacrament_n but_o they_o be_v not_o pollute_v which_o receive_v it_o objection_n they_o of_o who_o ministry_n there_o be_v a_o nullity_n before_o god_n although_o they_o have_v a_o outward_a call_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v account_v minister_n therefore_o not_o to_o be_v communicate_v with_o i._o penry_n pag._n 43_o 44._o answer_n i_o deny_v your_o antecedent_n my_o reason_n be_v first_o there_o be_v a_o nullity_n before_o god_n of_o caiphas_n priesthood_n for_o he_o enter_v by_o money_n and_o the_o priesthood_n be_v divide_v between_o he_o and_o annas_n against_o the_o lord_n order_n calu._n luc._n 3._o yet_o caiphas_n be_v call_v the_o high_a priest_n by_o the_o evangelist_n mat._n 26._o joh._n 18._o second_o there_o be_v a_o nullity_n before_o god_n of_o the_o ministry_n of_o some_o in_o philippos_n which_o preach_v christ_n of_o contention_n and_o to_o add_v more_o affliction_n to_o paul_n band_n philip._n chap._n 1._o verse_n 15_o 16._o but_o these_o be_v account_v minister_n by_o the_o apostle_n vers_fw-la 15_o 18._o if_o any_o shall_v deny_v that_o there_o be_v a_o nullity_n before_o god_n of_o their_o ministry_n i_o prove_v it_o thus_o they_o have_v not_o a_o inward_a call_n m._n penry_n say_v that_o a_o inward_a call_n be_v contain_v in_o the_o
fufficiencie_n of_o gift_n and_o willingness_n to_o practice_v they_o pag._n 45._o if_o m._n penry_n mean_v the_o practice_n of_o gift_n to_o god_n glory_n i_o say_v amen_o unto_o it_o i_o confess_v that_o they_o of_o philippos_n have_v gift_n in_o some_o measure_n but_o they_o have_v not_o willingness_n to_o practice_v those_o gift_n to_o god_n glory_n which_o willingness_n etc._n etc._n be_v one_o of_o the_o necessary_a branch_n of_o a_o inward_a call_n that_o they_o of_o philippos_n have_v not_o this_o willingness_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v manifest_a for_o they_o seek_v themselves_o and_o practise_v their_o gift_n whole_o to_o increase_v the_o apostle_n affliction_n last_o if_o your_o antecedent_n be_v true_a what_o say_v you_o to_o this_o proposition_n they_o of_o who_o magistracy_n there_o be_v a_o nullity_n before_o god_n though_o they_o have_v a_o outward_a call_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v account_v magistrate_n do_v you_o not_o think_v this_o proposition_n to_o be_v very_o dangerous_a i_o can_v press_v and_o follow_v this_o very_o far_o but_o i_o abstain_v of_o purpose_n objection_n the_o sacrament_n may_v not_o be_v receive_v at_o his_o hand_n which_o want_v outward_a call_n therefore_o not_o at_o his_o hand_n who_o be_v destitute_a of_o the_o inward_a grace_n i._o penry_n pag._n 46._o answer_n your_o antecedent_n be_v true_a and_o make_v against_o the_o anabaptist_n i_o deny_v your_o argument_n my_o reason_n be_v omnia_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la cùm_fw-la obsint_fw-la indignè_fw-la tractantibus_fw-la prosunt_fw-la tamen_fw-la per_fw-la eos_fw-la dignè_fw-la sumentibus_fw-la august_n contra_fw-la epist_n parmen_fw-la lib._n 2._o cap._n 10._o that_o be_v all_o sacrament_n though_o they_o hurt_v such_o as_o do_v handle_v they_o unworthy_o yet_o they_o profit_v such_o as_o do_v worthy_o receive_v they_o at_o their_o hand_n objection_n we_o have_v no_o warrant_n to_o receive_v a_o extraordinary_a sacrament_n but_o that_o which_o be_v administer_v by_o 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of_o england_n be_v not_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n answer_n i_o deny_v the_o argument_n my_o reason_n be_v first_o s._n luke_n set_v out_o the_o extraordinary_a blessing_n which_o god_n give_v to_o peter_n sermon_n in_o jerusalem_n have_v these_o word_n then_o they_o that_o glad_o receive_v his_o word_n be_v baptize_v and_o the_o same_o day_n there_o be_v add_v to_o the_o church_n about_o three_o thousand_o soul_n and_o they_o continue_v in_o the_o apostle_n doctrine_n and_o fellowship_n and_o break_v of_o bread_n and_o prayer_n acts._n 2.41_o 42._o no_o man_n endue_v with_o god_n spirit_n will_v deny_v that_o this_o assembly_n which_o be_v baptize_v &_o continue_v in_o the_o apostle_n doctrine_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o yet_o no_o deacon_n be_v at_o that_o time_n choose_v or_o consistory_n of_o senior_n erect_v second_o they_o which_o do_v urge_v the_o discipline_n most_o earnest_o do_v confess_v that_o the_o discipline_n be_v not_o a_o essential_a part_n 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or_o patron_n i_o do_v rather_o exhort_v they_o to_o unfeigned_a repentance_n for_o this_o great_a sin_n of_o they_o have_v and_o do_v cry_v very_o loud_o for_o some_o notable_a vengeance_n cipri_n de_fw-fr unitate_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la haereses_fw-la diabolus_fw-la invenit_fw-la &_o schismata_fw-la quibus_fw-la subverteret_fw-la fidem_fw-la veritatem_fw-la corrumperet_fw-la scinderet_fw-la unitatem_fw-la quos_fw-la detinere_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la in_o viae_fw-la veteris_fw-la caecitate_fw-la cirrumscribit_fw-la &_o decipit_fw-la novi_fw-la itineris_fw-la errore_fw-la rapit_fw-la de_fw-la ipsa_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la homines_fw-la &_o dum_fw-la sibi_fw-la appropinquasse_fw-la iam_fw-la lumini_fw-la atque_fw-la evasisse_fw-la faeculi_fw-la noctem_fw-la videntur_fw-la alius_fw-la nescientibus_fw-la tenebras_fw-la rursus_fw-la infundit_fw-la etc._n etc._n a_o defence_n of_o such_o point_n in_o r._n somes_n last_o treatise_n as_o m._n penry_n have_v deal_v against_o and_o a_o refutation_n of_o many_o anabaptistical_n blasphemous_a and_o popish_a absurdity_n touch_v magistracy_n ministry_n church_n scripture_n and_o baptism_n etc._n etc._n contain_v
page_n 84._o they_o among_o we_o which_o be_v unbaptise_v do_v sin_n grienous_o if_o they_o do_v not_o present_v themselves_o to_o baptism_n chap._n 8._o page_n 88_o they_o which_o be_v once_o baptize_v must_v not_o be_v baptize_v again_o chap._n 19_o page_n 156._o they_o which_o be_v baptize_v of_o popish_a priest_n in_o the_o popish_a church_n receive_v true_a baptism_n etc._n etc._n chap_n 7._o page_n 79._o and_o chap._n 8._o page_n 88_o 89._o and_o chap._n 20._o page_n 156._o 157._o the_o false_a profession_n of_o christ_n in_o popery_n do_v not_o prove_v that_o the_o true_a christ_n be_v not_o in_o popish_a baptism_n cap._n 23._o pa._n 174._o whether_o infant_n ought_v rather_o to_o be_v keep_v unbaptise_v then_o to_o be_v present_v to_o popish_a baptism_n chap._n 23._o page_n 180._o the_o infant_n of_o papist_n may_v be_v baptize_v in_o a_o reform_a church_n if_o some_o of_o the_o religion_n do_v present_v they_o to_o baptism_n &_o do_v undertake_v the_o godly_a education_n of_o 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