them keep this in this main controuersie legant let them read in Scripture not themselues infer out of Scripture that God hath set al infallible authoritie for matters of faith in Scripture and we wil beleue them as i l. de vnitate c. 17. S. Augustin saied in the like case to the donatists and k laude Relat sec 33. Chillirg p. 3 33 Protestants saie in the dislike to vs or I wil els say with the same S. Augustin I beleue what God saieth not l de vnita c. 11. what vaine heretiks babble or what fallible men infer 6. Nay Protestants are so far from reading in Scripture that in it is al infallible authoritie for matters of faith as themselues m seâ— infra l. 2. c. 5. sec 2. confess â—hat by Scripture al things absolutâ—ly cannot be proued which are to be beleued That Scripture is not an absolutly perfect Rule of controuersies that it cannot decide the question of Schisme that it is not safe to iudge al things by scripture alone that it doth not contein simply al things which are necessarie to saluation that it cannot assure vs that it is the word of God That it needeth an interpreter for some points of faith Which are to far from the nature of an al-sufficient infallible guide of men in matters of faith and so far from the nature of an al-sufficient rule in matters of faith as I think no iudicious Protestant can in his iudgment ioine them together For it is plain contradiction to be Al-sufficient and to be deficient in so main and so manie points 7. And not with standing though Hou scripture is necessarie and a rule in Scripture be not that Al-sufficient authoritie which God hath instituted on earth for to direct men by right faith to heauen nor it be the entire or the necessarie Rule â—or the very being of infallible faith yet it is necessarie to the better being of faith and a sufficient Rule both for al fundamental or al simply necessarie points of faith and also for the most points of Christian faith and à mediate rule for al of them And this being al that for which Scripture was written and which it ought to haue it is to be accounted a perfect â—ule becaus euerie thing is perfect when it hath al that it ought to haue And herein we grant more perfection to Scripture then Protestants doe both because we teach that it containeth al that we account absolutly necessarie or fundamental to saith Protestants say it teacheth not that which they account the most fundamental point of al to wit that it self is the word of God and also becaus we say that eâ—her immediatâ—ly or mediatly it teacheth clearly al points of faith what soeuer in that it sendeth vs to the true Church which teacheth clearly al points But Protestants say that nether immediatly nor mediatly it teacheth some clearly and sendeth vs not to any infallible interpreter So that S. Augustin l. 1. cont Creson c. 33. we grant both more vniuerâ—alitie and also more claritie to Scripure then Protestants do though they wold seem to maâ—e more of scripture them we doe but in truth make so litle of the Scripture as Chilling 〈◊〉 2. 6. 32. v. 9. some of them teach that we are not bound vnder paine of damnation to beleue the diuine authoritie of Scâ—ipture Nay say that the Scripture is none of the material obiects of faith that we haâ—e as great reason to beleue there was a King Henrie VIII as that which is saied in Sâ—ripture of Christ suffering See infra l. 2. c. 8. sec 2. and c. 15. n. 2 vnder Pontius Pilat which is in effect to say we haâ—e as great reason to beleue some men as to beleue God For not al but some men say there was a King Henrie VIII and both God and in a manner al men say thar Christ suffered vnder Pontius Pilat INDEX OF THE CHAPTERS OF the first Book I. IN which is enplicated the question touching the iâ—fallibilitie of the Church II. In which are set down the rational grounds of what is saied in this treatise concerning the Church III. What conditions are necessarie to the Al-sufficient external Proposer of points of faith IV. That God can giue to men a diuine infallibilitie or veracitie in proposing matters of faith V. That the true Church of God is a sufficient and infallible Proposâ—r of al which she proposeth as points of faih proued by what she is saied to be in Scripture VI. That the true Church of God is infallibilible in al she proposeth as points of faith proued by Gods promises to her in Scripture VII That the true Church of God is an infallible proposer of matters of faith proued by the holie Fathers VIII That the true Church of God is infallible in matters of faith proued by Reason IX Some of the protestants reasons against the infallibilitie of the true Church of God in matters of faith answered X. That the true Church of God is infallible in matters of faith proued by manifold coufessions of protestants XI That the true Church of God is in ordinarie Course a necessarie Propeposer of al points of faith proued by holy Fathers XII That the true Church of God is a necessarie Proposer of al points of faith proued by Reason XIII That the true Church of God is a necessarie proposer of al points of faith proued by plain confessions of Protestants XIV That Protestants grant the Churches authoritie to be diuinâ— XV. That Protestants grant it to be a supernatural cause of saith XVI How a vicious circle is auoided in prouing the Church by the Scripture and the scripture by the Church XVII How we are to answer that question How know yoâ— the Scripture to be the word of Gode XVIII That the true Church of God doth clearly and vniuersally propose al points of faith XIX Which is a sufficient Proposal of the Church for points of faith INDEX Of the Chapters of the second Book I. PRocestants vncertain which books be canonical Scripture II. Protestants vncertain whither al that is in scripture be plain and easie to be vnderstood or no. III. Protestants vncertain whether al things necessarie to be beleued be actually in scripture or no. IV. Protestants vncertain whether al things necessarie to be beleued be clearly in scripture or no. V. Protestants vncertain whether scripture be the onlie and entire Rule of faith or no. VI. Protestants vncertain whether scripture of itself do sufficiently shew it self to be the word of God or no. VII Protestants vncertain whether scripture be a true Iudge of Controuersies or no. VIII Protestants vncertain whether scripture be to be beleued to be Gods word with infallible asseurance or no. IX Protestants vncertain whether translated scripture be Authentical or no. X. Protestants vncertain whether scripture be to be beleued to be the word of God only for the Churches testimonie or no. XI Protestants
the good of the Church which was to continue after the Apostles Thus we haue refuted the Protestants three answers to this promise of Christ and shewed them to be mere shifts Nay indeed they turne Christs most bountiful promise made vnto his Church to nothing for to what purpose is it to teach the Church al fundamental or absolutly necessarie truths and not tel her which are those truths To what purpose were it to teach the Church vneffectually as Reprobates are taught To what purpose were it that the Apostles alone were taught al truth if the Church also were not taught it who is to teach vs as they taught her 4. An other promise of Infallibilitie in matters of faith made to the Church is Isaiae 59. v. 21. This is my Conuenant with the saieth our lord my spirit which is in the and my words which I haue put in thy mouth shal not depart from thy mouth and from the mouth of thy sred and from the mouth of thy seeds seed saith our Lord from hence forward and for euer Which words are not a command as Moulins would haue it but a conuenant or promise and that absolute not conditional as Plessiae wold and doe plainly promise to the Church continual infallibilitie and infallibilitie for euer and in al the words of God which he hath put in her mouth and are so plain as Whitaker contr 2. q. 5. c. 19. saied This place doth shew that true preaching of the word shal be in the Church perpetual Yet l. 1. de Scrip. p. 133. he saieth this promise was not made to the teaching Church but to the whole Church that is the elect But first this distinction of the teaching Church and the elest Church hath no ground in the text and therfore is a voluntarie and irrational shift Secondly words put in thy mouth shew plainly that it is made to the teaching Church and as Whitaker before cited shew that true preaching of the word shal be perpetual in the Church Thirdly if this promise be made to the whole elect Church it comprehendeth some parte at least of the teaching Church For alwries some of the teaching Church are Elect and so there are alwaies some preachers of al points of faith in the Church I omit their vsual shift of their distinction of Fundamental and not fundamental points of faith both becaus there are no not fundamental points in their sense that is not necessarie to sauing faith true Church and Saluation but al are fundamental to those ends that is necessarie to be beleued at least virtually and also actually if they be sufficiently proposedâ— And also becaus z See part 1 l. 1. c. 7. Protestants doe not constantly defend that the Church is infallible in fundamental points and a See infra l. 2 c. 10. sect 2. generally they say that she is not infallible in their most fundamental point of al to wit that scripture is the word of God and al of them denie her to be diuinely infallible in anie point of faith what soeuer And God in these words plainly testifieth that he wil make her diuinely infallible becaus he wil put his word in her mouth and make that it shal neuer depart from her which is to make her diuinely infallible as he made the Prophets or Euangelists For I cal that diuinely infallible which is infallible by Gods diuine assistance and not by anie natural insight of truth and natural fidelitie in telling it And such diuine infallibilitie God hath promised to his Church in the foresaid words of the Prophet or that can not be promised by anie words which men can speak or hear 5. And now Gentle Reader I pray thee consider First how manie places to omit others for breuitie sake I haue brought for the diuine infallibilitie of the true Church of God in al matters of faith secondly how directly they affirme the said infallibilitie so as they need no inference of ours though I haue reduced some of them to sillogistical forme becaus b Beza in Colloq mont p. 95. 96. 98. Hunnius de Condit disput thesi 18. Vvhitaker Prâ—â— Controu Morton part 2. Apol. l. 1. 〈◊〉 49. Fulco de Sucâ—es p. 493. Chilling c. 3. n. 43. Protestants do require it Thirdly how clearly that Protestants are forced to inuent so manie so new so contrarie one to the other so voluntarie and so violent expositions Fourthly how against so manie so direct so plain places of Scripture which teach the infallibilitie of the Church in al points of faith Protestants cannot bring one place of Scripture which directly so much as seemeth to teach that she is fallible in points of faith as may be seen in Whitaker contro 2. q 4. c. 3. and other Protestants who write of this matter but al their arguments are ether taken wholy from mere natural reason or at least partly from natural reason which euidently sheweth that they can haue no diuine and infallible faith that the Church is fallible in points of faith becaus the conclusion followeth the weaker part wheras Catholiks haue express and clear scripture for her infallibilitie and consequently good ground for diuine faith of it The most they can bring out of Scripture for their purpose are some examples which are the same which the Donatists brought for the perishing of the Church as may be seen in S. Augustin l. de Vnitate c. 13. to which he there fully answereth and indeed do rather proue the perishing of the Church then her erring in faith and therfore must be answered as wel of Protestants as of Catholiks For as Whitaker saieth Contro 2. q. 3. c. 1. He is mad that saieth the Church can Perish And ibid. c. 2. who denieth that the Church is founded for euer and to continue perpetually he is no Christian Morton in his replie for defence of his apologie p. 90. It is madness to say that the whole visible Church can faile and Chillingworth c. 3. § 11. we beleue the Catholik Church can not perish Though this he beleue not infallible For in answer to the preface § 18. he saieth the contrarie doctrin I doe at no hand beleue to be a damnable heresie And c. 5. § 41. Nether is it certain that the doctrin of the Churches failing is reâ—ugnant to the Creed Fiftly consider how vntruly wrote Chillingworrh c. 2. § 28. of Catholiks you yourselues doe not so much as pretend to enforce to the beleif hereof Infallibilitie of the Church by anie proofs infallible and conuincing but onely to induce vs to it by such as are by your confession onely probable motiues § 35. your faith euen of the foundation of your faith yoâ—r Churches authoritie is built lastly and wholy vpon prudential motiues And § 70. The faith of Papists relies alone vpon their Churches infallibilitie That there is anie Church infallible and that theirs is it they pretend not to beleue but onely vpon prudential motiues Are so manie so plain so direct places of Scripture as Catholiks bring for the infallibilitie of the Church onely prudential motiues To say nothing of the testimonie of Fathers conuincent reasons and plain confession of Protestants which hereafter we shal bring for the same purpose 6. To al the former proofes of the infallibilitie of
of the Fathers in his Preface Sâ—â— his thâ—s 5. p. 106. to his conclusions The Fathers who denie the Church of Rome may err gain say vs indeed but they gain say the Ghospel too Pardon me o Cyprian I would beleue thee gladly but that beleuing thee I should not beleue the word of God Al the testimonies of the Fathers for the Roman Church are of two sortes the one of them true but clean beside the purpose the other to purpose enough but vntrue And in verse bidds Auant al yee who on the Fathers saws depend Thus plainly he confesseth the Fathers to be against him touching the Infallibilitie of the Church Out of which testimonies of Fathers and confession of Protestants euident it is that it is an vniuersal tradition that the true Church of God is infallible in al matters which she professeth as of faith And therfore if as hereafter Protestants say they admit vniuersal traditions in al matters where it can be had and that vniuersal tradition is the key the introduction to al diuine truthes that for it they beleue the Scripture to be the word of God and that it is as infallible as the Scripture they cannot denie the true Church of God to be infallible in al matters which she proposeth as of faith EIGHT CHAPTER That the true Church of God is infallible in al points of faith proued by Reason 1. THE Infallibilitie of the Church of God which soeuer she is in al points of faith is so euident as it is not onely testified by scripture and Fathers but also conuinced by light of Reason And therfore falsly saied Chillingwort c. 3. § 27. p. 141. For the Infallibilitie of the Church no proof can be pretended but incorrupted places of Scripture The first Reason we wil take from the definition or description of the true Church giuen by scripture Fathers and Protestants For the Scripture Acts. 2. v. 42. describeth the true Church of Christ to be à companie of men pâ—rseuering in the doctrin of the Apostles and communion of Sacraments And doubtles a Church perseuering in them is infallible The Fathers as Protestants Confess are wont to vnderstand by a Moulins cont Peron l. 1. c. 2. the Church which oftentimes they cal Catholik the whole societie of Christians orthodox and sound in faith vnited together in Communion But a Church Orthodox and sound in faith is infallible so long as she remaineth such Protestants also as we shewed pars 1. l. 2. c. 6. put in the definition of the true Church that she profess the pure and entire word of God and they giue puritie in doctrin for an essential note of her But a Church of whose definition it is and whose essential note is to profess pure and entire doctrin is infallible in profession therof And what some may say that they mean onely of puritie of doctrin in fundamental points is refuted c. 6. citato 2. The second argument may be taken from the ends for which God instituted à Church on earth And to omit those ends which we brought out of Scripture c. 5. as to be the pillar and ground of truth to be the ordinarie means of begetting infallible faith to be Gods witnes of infallible faith to consummate and keep the faithful vnited and constant in infallible faith an other end is that she is instituted as an infallible and b Vvhitaker l. 3. de script 〈◊〉 392. Pottâ—r sect 5. p. 7. necessarie means to bring men to saluation by faith Hope and Charitie And Faith sisignifieth whole faith not a parte onely as fundamental articles are Therfore she is as infallible in teaching al points of faith as in teaching al points of hope or Charitie She is also instituted to be a mother to conceaue and beare Children to God by the infallible word of God to be their Mistress and c Laude sect 38. p. 345. Guide in faith That she is the mother of the faithful The Apostle testifieth Galat 4. v. 26. and Caluin confesseth 4. Instit c. 1. § 4. where he saieth Let vs learn by the onelie title of Mother The Church mother and mistâ—es of the faithful how profitable yea how necessarie it is to know her seing there is no entrance into life vnles she conceaue vs in her wombe vnles she beare vs nourish vs with her duggs c. Whitaker l. 1. de scriptura p. 87. I am a disciple of the Church I acknowledg the Church for my Mother The Church truly is mother of the faithful And p. 72. The Church is truly mistress and Guide of our faith P. 128. we honor the Churâ—h as mother Nurse Tutress Teacher we heare and respect her as our perpetual Mistress P. 153. None denieth the Church to be a Mistress of her own We denie not but a Mistreshipp was giuen to the Church l. 2. p. 234. I confess the Church is to be heard as a mistress and her iudgment also to be followed But the sure means of infallible faith instituted by God The Mother of Christians in infallible faith instituted by God the Mistress or Guide of infallible faith instituted by God must needs be infallible both becaus of Gods institution and for the infallibilitie of the end For a fallible Mistress or guide is as good as none for to learn infallible truth or to attein to infallible securitie or as Chillingworth saieth c. 6. § 20. A doubtful Guide is A fallible Guide naught worth for mens direction as good as none at al. And c. 1. n. 7. I grant that this means in the Church to decide controuersies in faith and Religion must be endued with an vniuersal infallibilitie in whatsoeuer it propoundeth for a diuine truth And to say as Protestants doe that she is a sure guide but in fundamental points cannot stand with her fallibilitie in other points For as S. d Epist 8. and 9. Difference of Maisters in faith and science Austin saieth of the Scriptur if it faile in anie point it becoms doubtful in al so say of the Church If she can faile in some points of faith she is doubtful in al. And here must be wel noted the diffeence of Masters or Mistresses in sciences and in faith For Masters or Mistresses of sciences doe shew their schollers the truth of things in the things themselues and so they are but shewers of the truths which they teach not perswaders of it but Masters or Mistresses of mattets to be beleued doe not make their disciples see the truths which they teach in themselues but in their own authoritie and their authoritie is the formal cause of perswading them those truths Wherfore if Protestants would indeed grant the Church to be Mistress of Christians in matters of faith they must needs grant that in her authoritie they see the truthes which they beleue and for her authoritie are persuaded of them but indeed they doe not distinguish between à Mistress in faith and in science which is a
Scripture to be the word of God by some authoritie that is absolutly diuine and he proueth it thus For if they be warranted vnto vs by anie authoritie less then diuine then al things conteined in them which haue no greater assurance then the scripture in which they are read are not obiects of diuine beleif and that once granted wil enforce vs to yeeld that al the articles of Christian beleef haue no greater assurance then humane or moral faith or credulitie can affoord Thus he both confesseth and proueth that the Scriptures must be proued to be the word of God by some infallible diuine proof and that such a proof can be nothing but a word of God and by some authoritie that is absolutly diuine But where this word of God by which the scripture is to be proued is where this absolutly diuine authoritie is out of the Church he cannot tel For himself saieth sec 16. cit p. 70. There is no place in Scripture which tells vs that such books conteining such and such particulars are the word of God And p. 88. Scripture cannot bear witness to it self nor one parte of it to an other White also in his way p. 48. The certaintie of the scripture is not written indeed with letters in anie particular place or book of the scripture So there is no written word of God that See infâ—a l. 〈◊〉 c. 6 sec 2. auoucheth the Scripture to be the word of God And vnwritten word of God they admit none Wherefore Laude flieth to a diuine light in See infra l. 2. c. 5 sec 2. scripture which saieth he after the present Church hath testified the Scripture to be the word clearly sheweth to vs that it is the word of God But beside that this light is feigned as we shal see more hereafter light is no word of God which Laude requireth to pâ—â—ue the scripture by but a quali 〈…〉 of the word of God nor is anie formal obiect of beleef which authoritie or veracitie onely is but is obiect of science or of vision And so this light is nether the material obiect of faith nor sufficient proof of the Scripture becaus it is no word of God nor anie formal obiector cause of faith becaus it is no authoritie Wherefore Chillingworth finding no surer motiue to beleue the Scripture then the testimonie of the Church and yet not granting that to be infallible granteth that consequence which Laud would auoid See l. 2. 〈◊〉 8. sec 2. to wit that al their assurance that the Scripture is Gods word and of al things conteined in it is but humane and fallible and so Protestants faith is not diuine or infallible and may deceaue them An other main inconueniencie is that if the Catholik A fallible Church menâ— force to professor in faith or to forsake her communion Church could err in matters of faith she might force vs to profess her error if she exacted â—t as a condition of her communâ—â—â— which were great sin or so forsake her communion which were to put our selues out of the state of Saluation becaus there is no saluation out of the Church as there Caluin 4. Inst. c. 1. §. 4. Vvhitaker contr 2. q. 5. c. 3. was not out of the Arck of Noe Wherby we see that the Infallibilitie of the Church and Necessitie of being in the Church doe mutually infer one the other 7. To al these proofs out of Reason I may add that Reason forceth Protestants to confess that the Church is infallible in fundamental points and if it were not to haue some pretence to refuse the Churches iudgment in some points it wold force them to confess that she is also infallible in Not-fundamental points and making fundamental or Not-fundamental which they please they take pretence to admit or refuse the Churches iudgment-in which points they please And this is the true ground of their denial of the Churches diuine Infallibilitie in al points of faith which to haue discouered is to haue refuted I may add also that for more then 2000. yeares God Protestants make she Church more infallible in the law of nature then after gaue infallibilitie to his Church and that he neuer said that he wold take it from her and that the Church is not less infallible now then it was before Moyses but rather founded as the Apostles saieth in better promises NINTH CHAPTER Some of the Protestants arguments against the Infallibilitie of the true Church of God in matters of faith ansvvered 1. PRotestants heap vp great store of Arguments but no express testimonie of Scripture against the Infallibilitie of the Church in matters of faith that so they may by number supplie the weakness of them and if not conuince the Reader yet confound him wherfore I wil not relate them al but the chiefest by answer to which the Reader may see how he may answer the rest The first argument is this The Church may a Vvhitaker cont 2. q. 4. 6. 2. 3. Chilling c. 5. n. 93. err in matters of manners therfore also in matters of faith I answer that if they mean in the Antecedent of the vniuersal Church I distinguish of damnably erring or venially erring and denie that the whole Church can damnably err in manners becaus that would make her not holie and so that article of our Creed I beleue the holie Catholik Church should be fals and as Laude said sec 25 § 5. The whole militant Church is holie and so we beleue Item If we wil keep vp our Creed the whole militant Church must be holie Secondly I denie the consequence For etror in manners destroieth onely a qualitie of the Church which is holiness and without which the substance of the Church may be but sinful error in faith destroieth her b See part 1. l. 2. c. 6. substance and maketh her no true Church of God but a fals and heretical Church becaus sinful error in faith is the sin of heresie And also euen euerie sinless error in faith destroieth the end for which the Church is instituted which is to be a sure and vndoubted c See sup c. 2. n. 2. and c. 8 n. 2. Guide in matters of faith and to perswade them which she could not if she erred in anie point of faith For as S. d Epist. 8. 9. Austin saieth of the Scripture if anie error were found in anie point of her doctrin her doctrin in other points would be vnsure and suspected of error Besids we might argue thus against Protestants the Church may err fundamentally in manners Therfore also fundamentally in faith 2. A second argument is that the Church may for some time be ignorant of some points of faith Therfore may also err I distinguish the antecedent of points of faith necessarie necessitate medij or Adesse fidei and then I denie it For then she should not be a sufficient guide of faith or of points not so necessarie and
OF THE AL-SVFFICIENT EXTERNAL PROPOSER OF MATTERS OF FAITH DEVIDED INTO TVVO BOOKES IN THE FIRST Is proued that the true Church of God is the Al-sufficient external Proposer of matters of Faith IN THE SECOND Is shewed the manifold vncertanities of Protestants concerning the scripture and how scripture is or is not an entire Rule of Faith By C. R. Doctor of Diuinitie 1. Timothe 4. The Church of the liuing God the pillar and ground of truthe At PARIS M. DC LIII THE PREFACE to the Reader 1. NAtural reason gentle Twoe waies to learn truthe Reader teacheth vs that what we can not know by ourselues we should learne by authoritie of others and according as their authoritie is vndoubted or probable toyeeld assured or probable assent therto and the same reason teacheth vs also that as the See infra l. 2. c. 8. sect 1. clear sight of God in heauen is supernatural to vs and far aboue the reach of our reason so is also the right way therto Wherfore as S. Devâ—â—l â—redendi 〈◊〉 16. 8. 17. Augustin rightly sayeth if God wil haue men come to him in heauen he must needs haue instituted some authoritie on earth for to direct them assuredlie in the right way becaus by reason we cannot finde way to heauen known by authoritie out that way Which authoritie must be infallible because otherwise it could not assuredlie direct vs as also becaus it is to direct vs by diuine faith which is altogether infallible And herein is Gods goodnes to be admired that he would bring men to heauen rather by authoritie and faith then by knowledg and reason becaus euerie one can beleeue but not euerie one konw hard matters And in al that is hitherto saied Catholiks and Protestants generally agree The controuersie between them is in whome God hath setled this assured authoritie for to direct and guide vs infallibly in our way to heauen 2. For Catholiks say that as God Authoritie setled in men at the first set this authoritie in his Prophets and Apostles so becaus they were not to liue with vs for euer he continueth it in his Church which he hath made his spouse the mother and mistres of the faithful the pillar and ground of truth his mistical body wherof Christ is head and the Holy Ghost the Soule who is to teach her all truth and in whose heart is alwaies Gods Word beleued in her mouth his word preached and in her hands his word written But Protestants becaus they can shew no Church before Luther who taught in substance the same waie to heauen which they doe as I haue otherwere Lib. 2. de Authore Protestâ— Ecclesia shewed by their own plaine and manifold confessions are forced to denie that God hath setled this infallible authoritie in his Church for to direct vs and guide vs infalliblie to heauen and doe grant her no more authoritie in matters of faith then a whâ—tat Cont. 1. q. 5. c. 20. l. 1. dâ— script 144. l. 2. p. 254. â—71 l 3. p. 435. mere humane enen in the b Laude sec 16. n. 26. 61. most fundamental points of al. Naie some of them saïe she hath c whitat Cont. 1. q. 3 c. 3. l. 1. de script p. 153. l. 2. p. 235. Caluin Actor 15 v. 28. See infra l. 2. c. 10. sec 2. and l. 1. c. 2. §. 8. no authoritie at al in matters of faith So they abase the authoritie or rather take awaie al authoritie in matters of faith from their Mother and Mistres in faith from the spouse of Christ from the pillar and ground of truth from her whose head Christ is and whose soule is the Holie Ghost who teacheth her al truth And this The roote of al heresie is the true roote of al heresies not to beleue that the true Church of God the pillar an t ground of truth whome the Holie Ghost teacheth al truth is an infaillible guide apointed by God to direct vs assuredly to heauen For euerie one would follow her none would oppose her whome they confess to be an infallible Guide 3. Protestants grant euerie one of the Prophets or Apostles to haue been infallible in matters of faith and yet cannot shew so mainie nor so plaine testimonies of Scripture for their infallibilitie as we can shew for the infallibilitie of the Church But al infallibilitie in matter of faith they wil put in the scripture as vsually al d Tâ—rtul dâ— prâ—wr c 15. Hilar l. ad Constant. August epâ—s 222. Hâ—eron in Galat. 〈◊〉 Sed infrâ— l. 2. c. 14. seq heretiks did because they wil vnderstand that as thy please and so indeed put al infallibilitie in themselues though nether scripture saith that itselfe is infallible nor was it written for aboue 2000. yeares before Moyses nor was it in al places or times when and where infallible faith was nor itself can shew the way to heauen to them that cannot read it nor sheweth that which Protestants account the most fundamental point of faith or al other points so clearly as it neede no interpreter See infra l. 2. c. 4. see 2. as we shal hear Protestants themselues confess 4. And can any reasonable man perswade himself that God hath setled al infallible authoritie forto direct men assuredly to heauen in that which he conffessth God neuer saied is infallible nor it was in al times or places where and when men were infallibly guided in their way to heauen which cannot by it self guide the greatest part of men which teacheth them not the most necessaire point of al nor al points so clearly as it need not some interpreter and yet say they withal God hath not giuen vs any infallible interpreter I add also that who follow it for their onlie guide in matters of faith haue no constancie nor vnitie in faith nor yet any hope of vnitie Is such â e See infra l. 1. c. 8. n. 6. one mens onelie assured guide to heauen 5. We produce the express word of God that his true Church is the pillar and ground of truthe and that the holie Ghost teacheth her al truth let Protestants produce the like express word of God that the book called scripture is the pillar and ground of truth and that it teacheth al truth You must saieth f Cont. Pra. â—eam l. 11. Tertullian proue as clearly as I doe Bring á proof like to mine And S. Augustin Read as plaine words as these are which we read to you Doe l. de vnis c. 6. 14. not bring vs your consequences or inferences of which we may â—ay with S. Augustin g Serm. 14. de verb. Apost This is a humane argument not diuine authoritie h See iâ—fra l. 25. 3. sâ—c 1. Protestants vse to say that al things necessarie to be beleued are expresly in scripture and need no inference and that faith relieth not on argument but on authoritie let
c Potter sec 5. p. 2â— 89. laude p. â—â—7 165. Caluin Admonâ—s vlt. p. 3â—2 martyâ— laâ— 4. c. 10. Protestants differ from Catholiks in that they doe not beleue al points of faith euen such as are necessarie to be beleued onâ—ly by reason of their clear reuelation sufficienly proposed to be necessarie to the wel being of faith euen by reason of the matter which they conteâ—ne when as indeed al points of faith are necessarie to the better being or perfection of faith euen by reason of the matter which they contein For as in natural things God doth not giue what is superfluous both to their being and also to their wel being or perfection so nether doth he in supernatural matters as are points of faith Whererpon the Apostle 1. Thessal 3. desired to add somethings which were wanting to their faith and yet doubtless nothing was wanting to the verie being of their sauing faith but only to the wel being or perfection thereof And Ephes. 4. he saith that God gaue Pastors to the consummation or perfection of Saints Wherfore as far as the better being or perfection of Christian faith or consummation of Saints reacheth so far also reacheth the infallibilitie of the Church And when some Catholiks say that the Church is infallible onely in things necessarie to saluation as Canus l. 5. loco 5. Stapleton Controu 4. q. 2. ad quartum argumentum and Bellarmin l. 4. de Pontifice c. 5. they doe not mean as some d Potter sec 5. p. 16. 17. 22. 29. Protestants think that she is infallible in things merely fundamental which are necessarie to saluation by reason of the matter or necessitate medij as the principal points of faith are necessarie but of things which are any way necessarie to saluation either by reason of their matter and their reuelation also or by reason of their reuelation only as other The Church infallible onely in things some way necessarie points of faith are necessarie and also which are necessarie ether to the verie being or to the berter being of saluation by reason of their matter as al points of faith are necessarie For in al things which are anie way necessarie to saluation and onely in things which are some way necessarie to saluation God hath giuen Infallibilitie to his Church Becaus as I said as in natural things he faileth not in any thing which is anie way necessarie to their being or better being so nether doth he faile or abound in supernatural things as is saluation 6. The last particle to be explicated whas meant by al and euerie one is To al and euerie one In which Protestants differ from Catholicks becaus they attribute Infallibilitie to the Church onely in things e Potter sec 5. p. 19. 29. absolutly necessarie to al mens faluation as Laude speaketh Relat. p. 355. or in things absolutly necessarie in themselues as he speaketh ibid. â—p 357. and generally Protestants say the Church is infallible bâ—t in fundamental points by which they mean onely such as are necessarie to euerie Christian as Potter saieth sect 7. p. 74. not such as are necessarie onely to some But seing Christ hath instituted his Church as a necessarie mean to saue al and euerie kinde of men she must needs be as in fallible in matters which are necessarie for the saluation onely of some as she is in matters which are necessarie for the saluation of al. For els he should faile in a necessaire meanes for the saluation of some kinde of men which were impious to think seing he came to saue al kinds of men and therfore he hath made his Church infallible as wel in matters of faith which are necessarie onely to the saluation of some kindes of men as which are necessarie to al kinds of men And this is so euident as whitaker Controu 2. q. 4. c. 2. confesâ—eth that in things necessarie to anie The ful sense of this question the Church erreth not So that our meaning in this question of the infallibilitie of the Church is that the Catholick or vniuersal Church throughe Gods efficatious assistance certainly or infallibly neuer erreth in anie point necessarie to saluation ether for the matter and diuine reuelation too or onely for diuine reuelation sufficiently proposed or necessarie ether to the being or wel being of faith ether of al men or of anie kinde of men So that in what point soeuer which is anie way necessarie to saluation ether of al or of anie men the Church infallibly neuer erreth through Gods efficatious assistance of her which assistance Christ hath most clearly promised to her as he hath promised to her remission of al sinnes and Protestants might as wel question her power for remission of some kindes of sinnes as question her infallibilitie in some points of faith SECOND CHAPTER In vvhich are laid dovvn rational grounds of that vvhich vve shal say of the Infallibilitie of the Church in matters of faith 1. THe first ground is that only Onely Gods word can be beleued with diuine faith Quomodo credet quem non audâ—e runt Rom. 10. the word of God or what is said of God can be the material obiect or that which is beleeued with diuine faith This is euident becaus only that word which implieth contradiction to be fals can be the material obiect of diuine faith which implieth contradiction to beleeue aniething that is nottrue and such only is the word of God and no word of man or of anie creature And hence il followeth thaâ— Protestants cannot beleue with diuine saith either of these propositions The Bible is the word of God The present copies of the Bible are couformable to the original For a Chillinh c. 〈◊〉 p 90. laâ—dâ— sect 16. p 69. 70 〈◊〉 117. Hoober l. 2. §. 〈◊〉 Beza in Rom. 1. â—ee l. 2. c. 15. n. 8. and c. 5. sest 1. they maintein that the scripture is the sole and adaequat obiect of diuine faith and confessing which is euident that neither of the said propositions is in scripture nor is anie written word of God they must needs also confess that they haue no diuine faith of the said propositions Wherefore thus I argue in forme against them Onely the scripture or written word of God is the material obiect of diuine faith The said propositions are no scripture or written word of God Therefore they are no material obiect of diuine faith 2. The second ground is that onely Onely Authoritie or veracitie the formâ—l cause of belâ—ef Authoritie or veracitie can be the formal obiect or formal cause of anie beleef whatsoeuer This also is euident For as the Apostle saieth Rom. 10. faith is of hearing and S. Austin lib. de vtil cred c. 11. That we beleue we owâ— to authoritie that we Know to reason Which he hath also lib. de vera Religione c. 24. And it is confessed by Protestants For thus Whitaker l. 3. de scriptuta
better being of faith or perfection and consummation of Saints and as well in points necessarie to the well being or perfection of faith as simply to the being thereof they should not differ from vs about what points the church is infallible For we doe not say that she is infallible in points which are not necessarie to any nor necessarie in any sorte to the being or wel being or Stapâ—et Contr. 4. q. 2. not 7. Ad Eâ—â—lesiae infâ—l ibilitatem in docendo satis â—st vt sit in fallibilis in substantiâ fidet publico dogma te rebus ad salutem nocessarijs Et ad 4. argumentum iâ—faâ—libilâ—tas docentis Eccâ—efiae pont tur tantum in rebus ad salutem necessaris The like saith Bellarm l 4. de Pont. c. 5. Canus l. 5 c. 5. Patribus Synodi Spiritus 〈◊〉 non est praesens in omnibus sedinrebus solùm ad salutem necessarijs perfection of Christian faith as manie scholastical subtilties are as Stapleton professeth Contr. 4. q. 2. notab 7. For as in natural things God giueth not superfluities but only what is necessarie to the being or perfection of them so nether in supernatural matters But as he is not defectiue in natural things for necessaries ether for their simply being or their perfection so much lesse is he defectiue in supernatural matters according as these are of more importance then those and more regarded of him And Protestants by saying that God hath made his Church infallible only in things necessarie to all men and necessarie to her verie being make him les liberal in supernatural matters then in natural Besides o See infra 〈◊〉 6. n. 1. Chillingw c. 2. p. 54. saieth that the scripture can end all controuersies touching things necessarie and verie profitable And ib. p. 98. What one of the Euangelists hath more then an other is only profitable and not necessarie And if God hath giuen diuine infallibilitie to the scripture and Euangelists not only for necessarie points but also for such as are profitable why should we thinke that he hath not giuen to his Church the like infallibilitie not onely for simply necessarie points but also for profitable as all are which make to the edification of Christs bodie and consummation of saints vnto a perfect man as all true points Morton â—om 1. Apologa l. 2. c. 9 Quasi â—erè nou fit fidei dogma quod piriâ—us S. omnibus eredendum propinauis of faith doe For who can denie that all true points of faith reuealed clearly by God are of the integritie and perfection of faith and are profitable for vs to beleue otherwise to what end were they so reuealed And if God reuealed them clearly he would haue them beleued and if beleued he would appoint on earth some infallible authoritie to propose them which not being in the scripture must needs be in the church I ad also How al pointâ— of faith are necessarie that though al points of faith be not simply necessarie by reason of the matter which is to be beleued they al are simply necessarie by reason of the formal cause which is diuine reuelation sufficiently proposed for that is simply necessarie to be beleued in whatsoeuer it proposeth How the principal and the instrument are â—one and how different 12. The twelft ground is that as the principal agent and the instrument are but one entire cause in Kinde to witt efficient but in order and degree are far different Different causes to witt Principal and Instrumental so the authoritie of God and of the Apostles in matters of faith were one and the same entire cause of diuine faith to witt formal but in order and degree were twoe and far different for the one was principal the other ministerial one increate the other create one absolutely necessarie the other not absolutely necessarie the one sufficient of it self to beget diuine faith the other not sufficient of it self And this vnitie betwixt the authoritie of God and of the Apostles our Sauiour expressed when he said Luke c. 10. Who heareth you heareth me which could not be true vnles he and his Apostles were in some sort one and the same speaker as the king and his Embassadour are And this same Protestants sometymes confess For thus Caluin in Ioan. 20. v. 21. He bids the Apostles succeed into the same function which he had of his father he imposeth on them the same person he giueth them the same right Christ communicateth with his Apostles the same authoritie which he had of his father Whitaker Cont. 2. q. 3. c. 5. The Apostles did consigne the Canon not as men but as the person of God And lib. 1. de script p. 61. Becaus Christ left earth he gaue his office to preachers And pa. 71. I denie not that Pastors doe in some sort bear the person of God And the distinction also between these twoe authorities Christ expressed when he said Ioan. 16. The holie Ghost shal bear witnes of me and yee also shal bear witnes In which words he expresseth two witnesses ad twoe testimonies And the same did the Apostles when they said Act. c. 15. It hath seemed to the holie Ghost and to vs to lay no other burden vpon you but these where they express twoe imposers of the same burden the holie Ghost and themselues and twoe authorities of imposing it one of the holie Ghost the other of themselues For they could not impose that burden without they had authoritie distinct from the authoritie of the holie Ghost though not separate from it And the same for vnitie and distinction of the authoritie of the holie Ghost and of the Church I say of the Church that the authoritie of God and of his Church is one and the same in kinde The entire formal cause of faith in ordinarie course see infra c. 11. n. 1. of causing diuine faith but far different in credit and degree of causing it though in ordinarie course neuer separated For in ordinarie course the entire formal cause of diuine faith is Gods and his churches authoritie togeither or God speaking by his Church And the Churches authoritie being one entire cause of diuine faith with Gods authoritie her authoritie must needs be in matters of faith diuine and infallible for a fallible authoritie cannot be one cause in kinde of beleef with an infallible authoritie but a quite different kinde of cause And if these grounds be compared with the grounds of Protestants for which they limit the infallibilitie of Gods Church to onely fundamental points and to mere humane infallibilitie they will appeare yet more firme and solid For theyr grounds are not founded vpon any ends of the Church expressed in scripture as these are but founded onely vpon their own ends which are only to delude the texts of Scripture which attribute infallibilitie to the Church in al points of faith by saying that they are meant of fundamental points onely
then I distinguish also of sinful ignorance and sinles ignorance I denie the Antecedent for sinful ignorance is heresie or equiualent to it ignorance not sinful I grant the Antecedent but denie the consequence For error in faith whether sinful or sinles includeth vntruth and so is contrarie to the end of the Church which as saied is to be a sure guide in matters of faith and sure she cannot be who proposeth anie thing as of faith which ether is not of faith or is contrarie to faith for that were vntruth But simple ignorance of some point of faith not so necessarie is not repugnant to a sufficient and sure guide in matters of faith nor includeth anie vntruth As it is not against the assurednes of Scripture that it teacheth not al that is of faith as it would be if it taught anie the least error or vntruth For simple ignorance or not teaching something includeth no vntruth but mere vnknowledg or not teaching that truth but error includeth vntruth which cannot be in a sure Guide as the true Church Some ignorance is but against the peâ—fection of the Church of God alwayes is Wherfore ignorance of some not so necessarie truth would be against the perfection of the Church but al error whatsoeuer sinful or not sinful in anie point whatsoeuer of faith would destroie the end of the Church 3. The third argument may be this Vvhitaker cont 2 q. 4. c. 3. Laude sec 16 p. 65. Chilling c. 3. n. 70. euerie member of the Church may err in faith Therfore the whole Church I denie the consequence both becaus God hath not made euerie member of the Church the pillar and ground of truth as he hath made the Church nor made promise of infallible assistance to euerie member of the Church and also becaus he hath not instituted euerie member of the Church for an infallible and sure Guide in matters of faith as he hath instituted the Church And if this note of the essence of the Church which is to be a societie in Christs true faith and not onely in some parte of his faith and the end of the Church which is to be a sure and vndoubted Guide in matters of faith be wel obserued we shal easily both defend the Churches infallibilitie and also solue the Protestants obiections against it A fourth argument may be taken out of that which Chillingworth saieth c. 3. § 30. p. 144. The Churches dependance on the Apostles So also Tailo in lâ—bertie of propheâ—ing sect 6 n. 1. rule is voluntarie for it is in the power of the Church to deuiate from this rule being but an aggregation of men of which euerie one has free wil. To which I answer first that this would equally proue that the Apostles were not infallible becaus they had free wil nor the Church infallible in fundamental points secondly I answer that by the Churches Infallibilitie mean not anie natural or absolute infallibilitie as in God but such as Christ saieth Matt. c. 24. is in the Elect who though of their nature may be led into error yet through Gods efficacious assistance can not And possibilitie of erring by nature and impossibilitie of erring by Gods efficacious assistance may stand together as they did in the Apostles For this impossibilitie or necessitie of not erring is as logitians speak onely consequentiae non consequentis And necessitie of Necessitie of consequence not of consequent consequence doth not repugne to libertie or freedom For as of my seing one walk it followeth necessarily that he walk and yet he walketh freely so of Gods efficacious assistance of the Church not to err it necessarily followeth that she err not and neuertheles she freely erreth not And the reason is becaus Gods efficacious assistance altereth not mâ—n smanner of working which is to work freely but onely assuredly maketh them to Gods assistance caâ—â—oth assurednes not necessitie work And assurednes of the work may wel stand with free manner of working it becaus the work and the manner of working it are different things It sufficeth that God who is the principal worker wil haue it done and that he by his omnipotencie can effect it assuredly as wel by a free secondarie Agent as by a necessarie Agent for who resisteth his wil 4. Wherfore now Gentle Reader compare our reasons for the Infallibilitie of the Church in matters of faith with the Protestants Reasons to the contrarie and our solutions of their arguments with their solutions of ours and thou shalt finde a main difference For one of our Reasons is taken a priori as Philosophers speak from the definitions of the true Church giuen by Scripture Fathers and Protestants themselues wheras Protestants nether bring nor can bring anie Reason for the fallibilitie of the Church out of her definition For what colour of her fallibilitie can be drawn from that she is a Societie in Profession of the true faith of Christ and communion of his Sacraments but rather for her Infallibilitie An other of our arguments is also taken a priorâ— from the final cause or end of the Church which is to be a sure Guide to saluation by right faith in Christ which end can afford no colour of proof of her fallibilitie Our third Argument also is a Priori from the formal external cause of diuine faith which must needs be infallible as faith is wherof it is cause which formal external cause of infallible faith affoordeth no colour of fallibilitie Our fourth argument is taken from Christs gift And our fift a Posteriori from â—he manie and great ill consequences which necessarily follow of the denial of the Churches Infallibilitie wheras Protestants can infer no inconneniencie at al out of our auouching her infallibilitie in points of faith But their best reasons against the Churches Infallibilitie are taken from similitudes which are indeed Dissimilitudes between error in manners and error in faith between ignorance of some point of faith and error in some point of faith between euerie member of the Church and the whole Church And as for our solutions of their arguments they are satisfactorie and scientifical becaus they are taken from the nature and the end of the true Church and shew a plain difference betwixt those things which ProtestaÌ„ts think to be like Wheras Protestants can giue no such satisfactorie or scientifical answer to our Arguments taken of the definition or end of the Churh but doe voluntarily glose the definition and end of the Church as if her essence were onely a societie in profession of some parte of Christs doctrin and Protestants destroie both the esse ce and the end of the Church her end to be a sure Guide onely in some parte therof to wit in the fundamental or principal parte which is indeed to make her a parte of Christs Church and truly not his Church nor anie sure guide at al But now let vs proue the Churches Infallibilitie out of Protestants
5. calleth this The Ladie and as it were Goddess of al traditions Robert Baronius tract de Eccles c. 21. n. 1. The Fathers knew no other infallible Rule of faith beside the Scripture and perpetual tradition of the Church Dauenant de Iudice c. 5. we grant Tradition before Moyses was sufficient that before Moises the word of God not written and propagated to posteritie by continual tradition was a sufficient Rule of faith Whitaker contr 1. q. 3. c. 5. I deny not that the Churches Tradâ—tion conuinâ—ent tradition is a conuincent argument which books are Canonical which not And if conuincent infallible Behold the Churches tradition of the Scripture is certain vndoubted the Ladie and as it were Goddess of traditions and her perpetual or vniuersal tradition as infallible as the Scripture an infallible rule of faith And what maketh it so but Gods assistance 7. Fourthly they grant that the testimonie or tradition of the Church Testimonie of the Church proueth the scripture is an infallible proof of the Scripture Whitaker l. 2. de Scriptura c. 4. sec 4. p. 227. I say the testimonie of the Church sufficeth to conuince and refute those who think amiss of Scripture or denie the articles of Christian faith Ibid. p 270. Thy meaning was that the iudgment of the Church was a most strong argument in the kinde of external cause and my meaning was altogether the same l. 1. c. 1. sec 9. p. 19. The true Churches testimonie of the Scripture must be taken and who taketh it not shal be guiltie of sacriledg Contr. 1. q. 3. c. 7. we are forced by the Churches authoritie to beleue these books to be diuine And c. 9. p. 325. Al those Fathers doe they proue anie other thing then that Scripture is to be receaued becaus it was alwaies receaued of the Becaus Church and some books to be reiected becaus the Churchal waies reiected them This we most willingly grant And ibid. p. 326. we confâ—ss with Ireney that the authoritie of the Church is a firme and compendious Demonstration of Canonical doctrin And l. 5. contra Dureum sec 19. I think there could not be brought à stronger argument against the schismatical Donatists then from the authoritie of the Church And l. 1. sec 30. we confess the Churches approbation is necessarie and we admit no books but which haue certain and perpetual testimonie of the true Church you see therfore how much we giue to the Churches tâ—stimonie in which we think is strenght enough to confirme Strenght enough in the â—hurch testimonie the Canon of Scripture and refute al Aduersaries Kemnitius 1. parte Exam tit de Scriptura Al this dispute whether S. Iames Epistle be Canonical dependeth on the assuâ—ed firme and agreing testimonies of the Church Hooker l. 2. § 4. Nether could we euer come to anie pause wheron to rest our assurance this way so that vnles beside Scripture there were something which Something beside Scripture can assure vs. might assure vs that we doe wel we could not think we doe wel in being assured that the Scripture is a sacred and holie rule of wel doing And this thing which can assure vs as a pause to rest on that scripture is a sacred rule he saieth l. 3. § 8. is the Church where he addeth scripture teacheth vs that sauing faith the which God hath discouered vnto the worldby Reuelation and it presumeth vs taught by the Church that it self is diuine and sacred Item If â—nfidels or Atheists chance at anie time to cal it in question this giueth vs occasion to â—ift what reason there is wherby the testimonie of the Church concerning scripture and our owne perswasion which Scripture it self confirmed may be proued a truth Testimonie of the Church infalâ—ible infallible Behold the Church can assure vs as a pause to rest our assurance on that the Scripture is Gods word she teacheth vs that it is diuine and that her testimonie of the Scripture is infallible And is not this to haue one â—illable to this purpose that That wheron we must rest our assurance that the Scripture is Gods word is the Church as Chillingworth auoucheth c. 2. § 30. Doth the Church assure vs as a pause to rest our assurance on doth she teach vs that the Scrippture is Gods word is her testimonie of the Scripture infallible and may we not rest our assurance herof on the Church or is this no more but to be a key or inducement as Laude wold haue it sec 16 § 25. 8. Spalatensis l. 7. de Republ. c. 1. n. 9. doth not onely say that the Churches testimonie of the Scripture is sufficient to beleue it to be The Churâ—hâ—◠〈◊〉 stim onelie meâ—ns Gods word but also addeth that it is the onely motiue or meane to beleue it to be such To enquire which book is Canonical the Church hath that alone singular and onely Rule that the Vniuersal Church ask herself and what she in actual exercise holdeth seek and plainely know And l. contra Suarem c. 1. n. 34. I shew that nether Councels nor Popes nor Fathers nor Church can otherwise define which books be canonical which not but by the onely testimonie of the whole Church Chillingworth c. 2 n. 27. The question whether such or such a book be canonical Scripture cannot be decided affirmatiuely but onely by the testimonies of ancient Churches n. 32. by the Churches But by the Church consent we are assured what Scriptures be canonical of this controuersie we make iudge the consent and testimonie of the ancient and primitiue Church Which he repeateth n. 35. 42 And n. 114 It is vpon the authoritie of vniuersal tradition that we would haue them beleue scripture In his preface n. 28. Whatsoeuer is held necessarie by the Catholik Church of this age I verily beleue Finally they commonly grant as we shal see l 2. c. 4 sec 2. that the Scripture needeth an Interpreter euen for some necessarie points of faith And I hope they wil not say that a needful Interpreter for matters of infallible faith is fallible in interpreting them or that the Church of God is not this infallible Interpreter rather then anie A needful interpreter of infallible faith is infallible other I add also that Whitaker contr 2. q. 4. c. 2. granteth that the Church erreth not in things that are necessarie to anie men And such are more then absolutly necessarie to euerie one Laude also Relat. p. 356. The Fathers of the primitiue Church did sufficiently propose to men the diuine reuelation and did by it beget and breed vp faith Behold the testimonie or authoritie of the Church sufficeth to conuince and demonstrate that the Scripture is to be receaued becaus the Church receaueth it that the Church can assure vs that the Scripture is the word of God and that her testimonie herein is infallible is a Rule of faith nay the onely Rule or meane to
they mutually confirme each other yet with this difference that the true Church giueth sufficient testimonie to her self sufficient I say to beleue her with diuine faith to be the true Church of God becaus her authoritie in matters of faith is diuine as the Apostles was and therfore needeth not the testimonie of the Scripture to be beleued to be such as Christ gaue sufficient testimonie to himself Ioan. 5. S. Ihon Baptist to himself If particular men were credible of themselues why not the whole Church of God Math. 3. S. Ihon Euangelist to himself Ioan. 21. and S. Paul to himself Galat. 1. 2. Cor. 4. and so doth the pillar and ground of truth to her self But the Scripture giueth not sufficient testimonie of it self to be infallibly beleued to be Gods word but needeth authoritie of some infallible Author or Person becaus Scripture is onely the material obiect which is to be beleued and authoritie is the formal obiect or cause of beleef without which there can be no true or formal beleef but onely science or opinion For as S. Austin saieth That we beleue we owe to authoritie And Whitaker l. 3. de Script p. 408. Faith relieth vpon authoritie Authoritie is the foundation of faith Yet Scripture being beleued to be Gods word is a sufficient testimonie to confirme the beleef already had of the Church and also to produce such beleef in those who beleue not the Church And thus much for answer to that question How we beleue the Church to be infallible For we first beleue the Church God speaketh by the mouth of the Church Vvhitaker l. 3 de Scrip 414. so also Contr. 1 q. 3. c. 11. see c. 4. n. 4. and c. 14. n. 1. to be infallible for Gods vocal word vttered by the Church And we are confirmed in that beleef for Gods written word in the Scripture And to Catholiks we giue Gods vocal word as the first subordinat cause of that our beleef but to such as beleue the Scripture and not the Church we giue onely Gods written word And therfore no maruel if to Protestants who admit not the authoritie of Gods Church or his vocal word we proue the infallibilitie of the Church onely by Scripture wheras if they did equally admit as wel Gods vocal word as his written word or his true Church as his Scripture we might without anie vitious Circle at al mutually proue Gods vocal word by his written word and his written by his vocal and his Church by his Scripture and his Scripture by his Church becaus Gods testimonie is sufficient for proof of whatsoeuer and by what means soeuer it be vttered to wit by speech by writing or howsoeuer els Wherfore this is no vitious Circle God saieth by his Church that God speaketh by his Church Vvhitaker supra such Scripture is his word Therfore it is so God saieth by his Scripture that such are his Church Therfore they are so 5. And as for answer to the question How know you the true Church to be infallible in al matters of faith I say that beside the reasons grounded in Scripture giuen before we may giue a natural reason therof For as S. Austin saieth rightly If God haue L. de vâ—il cred c. 16. prouidence of mankinde he hath on earth setled some authoritie on which we relying may mount to him And this authoritie must not be blinde or deceiptful in matters of saluation as al matters of faith are as al fallible authoritie is and therfore is infallible in al such matters And as the same S. Austin saieth of the Scripture that if the lest lie be found in it the authoritie of al the rest faileth so if in the authoritie which God hath setled on earth for matters of Saluation there were found anie error we could not securely relie vpon it And the same reason teacheth vs that if God would setle this infallible authoritie on earth in anie he would setle it in his Church who is his beloued Spouse and Mother of the Faithful whome he hath apointed to conceaue them by the diuine seed of his word to beare nourish and guide them in their way to saluation For who can be imagined to be more fit to be infallible in matters of Saluation then the spouse of God the mother Nurse and Guide of the Faithful Would God apoint to mankinde a blinde or deceiptful guide to saluation surely no if he effectually meant to saue mankinde Nether wil it suffice to grant as Protestants doe that the Church is infallible in fundamental points first becaus there are no fundamental points 〈◊〉 their sense that is such as suffice to saluation though others sufficiently proposed be not beleued Secondly becaus if as S. Austin saied of the Scripture she lie in some points of faith we cannot be sure she doth not in others Wherfore wel saied Chillingworth c. 3. n. 36. An authoritie subiect to error can be no stable or firme foundation of my beleef in anie thing Thirdly becaus Protestants cannot tel which precisely are such fundamental points as they imagin and therfore cannot be certain in which points the Church erreth not Fourthly becaus they say the Church is fallible euen in their most fundamental point of al which is That Scripture is the word of God and sometimes also in other fundamental points as is shewed parte 1. l. 1. c. 7. Fiftly Chillingworth denieth that there is anie one certain Church vniuersal or particular which is infallible euen in fundamental points but onely that there are alwaies some vncertain men who hold al the fundamental points and therfore denieth that anie certain Church is an infallible Guide euen in fundamentals and saieth c. 2 n 139. p. 105. you must know there is a wide difference between infallible in No certain Church infaâ—lible euen â—â—fundamental points fundamentals and being an Infallible guide euen in fundamentals and we vtterly denie the Church to be the latter For to say so were to oblidge ourselues to finde some certain societie of men of whome we might be certain that they nether doe nor can err in fundamentals nor in declaring what is fundamental what not fundamental and consequently to make anie Church an infallible Guide in fundamentals would be to make it infallible in al things which Note this she proposeth and requireth to beleued Which he often times repeateth c. 3. as n. 39. 55. 58. and 60. where he addeth that it is falsly supposed that they grant that in some certain points No certain Church to be obeied vnder pain â—f damnation fundamental some certain Church is infallibly assisted and vnder pain of damnation to be obeyed So that no certain Church vniuersal or particular is ether an infallible Guide or to be beleued or obeyed vnder pain of damnation euen in fundamental points Beside The Church and Some Church are different For The Church signifieth the whole true Church as himself confesseth c. 5. n. 26. p. 263. or The
vncertain whether scripture be the formal cause of their beleuing whatsoeuer they beleue or no. XII Protestants vncertain whether they had the scripture from Catâ—oliks or no. XIII Protestants vncertain whether Catholiks make great account of scripture and proue their doctrin by it or no. XIV That scripture taken by it self without the atâ—estation of the Church cannot sufficiently propose to vs anie thing to be beleued with diuine faith XV. That scripture though beleued to be the word of God doth not sufficiently propose al points of faith XVI That Scripture doth not sufficienly propose anie point of faith to al men capable of external proposal XVII That scripture hath not proposed points of faith in al times when faith was XVIII That scripture hath not proposed points of faith in al places where faith was XIX That scripture doth not clearly enough propose al points of faith XX. That the proposal of scripture is not in ordinarie course necessarie to diuine faith XXI That the scripture conta ineth the summ of Christian faith XXII That the scripture teacheth plainly the summ of Christian faith XXIII That the scripture is necessarie to the better being of Christian faith XXIV Protestants arguments that the scripture conteineth al points of faith answered OF THE AL-SVFFICIENT EXTERNAL PROPOSER OF POINTS OF FAITH FIRST BOOK THE STATE OF THE question concerning the Infalibilitie of the Church explicated FIRST CHAPTER IN the former part of this work which was of the distinction of fundamental and not fundamental points of faith I shewed that there are no such fundamental points of faith as Protestants imagin to wit such as if they be beleued suffice to haue a sauing beleefe to be a true member of the Church and to be in the way of saluation though other points of faith sufficiently proposed be not beleued nor any such not fundamental points of faith as if they be sufficiently proposed be not necessarie and fundamental to a sauing faith to a true member of the Church why treated of the sufficient Proposer and to the way of saluation but that a sufficient proposal of what points of faith soeuer doth binde to beleue them al and euerie one of them vnder pain of losse of sauing faith of being a true member of the Church and of being in the way of saluation It remaineth that we sheâ— who is this â—l-sufficient Proposer of points of faith and which is a sufficient Proposal of them And becaus as we shal proue hereafter the Church is this Al-sufficient external Proposer of points of faith and that she cannot be such vnless she be infallible in al points of faith it is requisit before we proceed to explicate what we vnderstand by the Church what by her infallibilitie what by matters of faith and what by necessarie to al and euerie one 2. First therefore by the Church what is meant by The Church we vnderstand not anie particular Church whatsoeuer either of the cittie of Rome or of anie particular Prouince and mâ—ch less anie particular person what soeuer but only the whole vniuersal or Catholike Church of Christ and we only â—n quire whether she be infallible in al points vhich she teacheth as points of diuine faith not regarding for this present whether also anie particular Church or person be infallible or no becaus it wil suffice to our purpose that the whole Church be so infallible and also because the infallibilitie of anie particular Church or person may be disputed salua fidei compage as S. Augustin speaketh 3. The second point to be explicated what by infallibilitiâ— is Infallibilitie by which we mean not freedome both from al actual error and also from al possibilitie of error as is in God euen by his nature but only freedome from al actual error in matters of faith by Gods efficacious assistance Bellarm. l 6. degraâ—â—s 4. Grâ—tia effi cax adiunctâ—m habet infallibilitatem non necessitatem abstracting whether there be also freedome from al possibilitie of error in such matters or no. And this is that kinde of infallibilitie which we attribute to Gods true Church and which is both necessarie and sufficient to her for to be a fit external proposer of faith Necessarie becaus if she were not in some sort infallible in matters of faith her proposal of such matters would not be sufficient to engender infallible faith of them And also sufficient to be an external Proposer of such matters subordinat to God who is the principal proposer of them For as it implieth contradiction that diuine faith should beleue any thing that is not true so likewise it implieth contradiction that she who by Gods assistance is free from al actual errors in matters of faith should actâ—ally errin them and therefore she is a sufficient external ground and pillar to stand or relie vpon And hence it appeareth See infra c. 9. n. 3. how superfluous it were to proue that the Church hath no possibilitie to err ether near or remote in matters of faith seing freedome from actual error in them by Gods efficacious assistance sufficeth to an external proposer of them And that the true Church of God hath this kinde of freedome from error in matters of faith is clear by Christs promises by the testimonies of the Prophets and Apostles by the attestation of the holie Fathers by the light of reason and by the confessions some times of the learnedest Protestants as we shal shew hereafter 4. The third particle to be explicated whaâ— is meaÌ„t by matters of faith is Matters of faith By which we mean only such matters as the Church proposeth to be beleued with diuine faith not such as she proposeth to be beleued with humane faith as are the liues of saints in the Breuiarie their miracles Reliques aâ—d such like 5. The fourth particle is necessarie what by Necessarie to saluation to saluation In which particle a Potter sec 5. p. 16 19. 21. laude sec 21. p. 140. â—60 seqq Protestants commonly agree with Catholiks in words that the Church is infallible but indeed they desagree two ways For first they mean onâ—ly such points of faith as by reason of the matter are b whitaker cont 2. q. 4. l. 2. Caluin 4. Institut c. 8. potter sec 5. p. 19. 23. laude p. 355 357. 358. absolutely necessarie as the passion and Resurrection of Christ and such like and not also such as are necessarie to Saluation by reason they are clearly reuealed by God and sufficiently proposed to vs. For Catholiks hold that the Church is infaillible in matters of faith which are any way necessarie to Saluation though only by reason of their clear reuelation and sufficient proposal Becaus if we beleue not al things litle orgreat clearly reuealed by God and sufficiently proposed to vs as from God we doe not beleue God to be faithful in al his words which yet to beleue is most necessarie to salâ—ation Secondely
p. 408. Faith surely relieth vpon Authoritie-Authoritie is the foundation of faith And p. ibid. principium credende ab externa authoritate pendet 509. To beleue sâ—me Authoritie is necessarie nor can anie thing be beleued without Authoritie And l. 1. p. 50. That thou saiest our faith relieth vpon testmonies not vpon arguments I grant Laude Relat. sec 38. p. 345. We doe not beleue one article of faith by fallible authoritie of humane deductions And heereupon they define diuine faith to be an Assent to diuine reuelations vpon the authoritie of the reuealer And hence it followeth that Protestants cannot beleue either Melancthoâ— in proediâ—amento qualitaâ—is â—hillingw c. 11. p. 35. Protestâ—nts can haue no formal faith of theyr bibles The Bible to be the word of God or Their copies thereof to be incorrupt for anie light they conceaue to be in them or for the maiestie or stile of them or for the excellencie of the matter becaus none of these is anie formal Authoritie or veracitie but they are qualities of the word of God which qualities may cause Knowledg or opinion accordingly as they are certain or only probable signs of Gods word but cannot cause formal faith And that Protestants haue not formal faith of the scripture they seem some times to confess For thus laude Relat. Protestant last resolution is into arguments sect 1â— p. 83. 84. 85. 101. He that beleues â—esolues his last and full assent Tâ—at the scripture is of diuine authoritie into internal arguments found in the letter it self Loe Protestants last resolution is not into authoritie but into arguments And Pottersec 5. p. 8. That the scripture is of diuine authoritie the beleuer seeth â—y that glorious beam of diuine light * Laudep 8â— 114. 115. 118. 121. 123. 3â—0 which shines in scripture and by manie internal arguments found in the letter it selfe Whitaker lib. 1. de script p. 15. We beleue for the truth of the thing which is taught or for the diuinitie of the doctrine it self So also pag. 56. 88. Which is in effect to confess that they do not formally beleue but know or as Potter speaketh see that the bible is of diuine authoritie because their assurance that the bible is of diuine authoritie is not lastly resolued into authoritie but into arguments taken out of scripture or into the lighâ—e the diuinitie or truth of the doctrin in it whereas faith is not lastly resolued into arguments or truth or light but Fides est non apparentium Heb. 11. into authoritie nor is discursiue but is a simple assent of things not appearing for authoritie 3. The third ground is that only diuine Authoritie or veracitie can be anie true formal obiect or formal cause of diuine faith This likewise is euident For humane or fallible authoritie is not sufficient to cause diuine and infallible faith Becaus the authoritie for which we beleue must be at least as sure as our beleef like as the premises for which we know the conclusion must be as sure as the conclusion And no c See infra 12. c. 8. sâ—c 〈◊〉 authoritie but diuine can be so sure as diuine faith is which implieth contradiction to be false And this Protestants confess For thus Whitaker l. 3. de scriptura p. †sic etiam p. 509. 415. Such as the doctrin and religion is which we profess heauenly and diuine such also must the reason and authoritie of beleuing be And p. 392. Our faith must rely vpon an externall infallible means And l. 1. p. 166. The effect doth not surpass the cause Potter sect 5. p. 40. diuine faith must haue a diuine foundation And Chillingw c. 2. n. 154. None can build an infallible faith vpon motiues that are not infallible as it were a great and heauie burden vpon a foundation that hath not strength proportionable And the same saieth laude sec 16. n. 5. sec 33 p. 248. Potter sec 5. p. 7. Field l. 4. of the Church c. 2. and others And hence we inferre that the authoritie or testimonie of the church in matters of faith is diuine becaus as we shal d See infrâ— c. 15. n. 6. proue and Protestants sometimes confess it is a true cause of diuine faith 4. The fourth ground is that for the authoritie of Gods church to be diuine it need not rely vpon immediat reuelation from God but his special and effectuall assistance wil suffice thereto First becaus it cannot be proued that immediat reuelation is absolutely necessarie Secondly it were derogatorie to Gods omnipotencie as if he could not make anie infallible but in one manner Thirdly becaus S. e c. 1. v 3. f Lâ—ude sec 16. p. 91. Luke professeth that what he wrote was by hear-say of such as had conuersed with Christ Fourthly becaus Protestants some times confess that such and so great assistance of Christ and of the holie Ghost as is purposely giuen to that effect is enough to make the authoritie of anie companie of men diuine and infallible 5 The fist ground is that an authoritie Authoritie truly â—â—n ne is a sufficient external cause of diuine faith diuinely infallible may be a sufficient external formal cause of diuine faith subordinat to Gods authoritie which is the principal formal cause thereof This is certain For what greater certaintie or infallibilitie can diuine faith require in its external and subordinat cause then to be truly diuine Becaus al diuine authoritie effectually assisted by God to tell nothing but truth neuer lieth as diuine faith is neuer fals and therefore is a sufficient foundation external and subordinat to Gods authoritie on which diuine faith may rely 6. The sixt ground is that veritie Verities distinct from veraâ—itie or authoritie is distinct from Authoritie and veracitie For veritie is the material object of faith and that which faith beleueth Authoritie or veracitie is the formal obiect or that for which faith beleueth veritie Wherefore veritie cannot be beleued for it self both because it hath not of it self the formal cause of beleef which is Authoritie or veracitie as also becaus that veritie which faith beleueth hath not of it self any motiue to procure assent because it is vnseen and vnapparent in it self and Formal Authoritie or veracitâ—e is noâ— in words or writings onely is apparent in Authoritie 7. The seauenth ground is that though veritie can be in words or writings as in signs thereof yet Authoritie or verâ—citie which is the formal cause of beleuing veritie cannot be in words or in writings taken by themselues For Authoritie is in some Author and veracitie in one that is verax and euerie Author or veraâ— is some intellectual person who vttereth veritie and who for his authoritie or veracitie deserueth and causeth beleef of that The formal cause of faith is the authoritie of the reuealer veritie which he vttereth Besides diuine faith as al dogrant is beleef of some diuine truth reuealed
for the authoritie of the reuealer or as Chillingworth c. 1. p. 35. saieth an assentto diuine reuelation vpon the authoritie of the reuealer And the same saieth laude sec 38. p. 344. Potter sect 5. p. 3. and others But a Reuealer is a person intelligent Therefore the authoritie of some person intelligent is the formal cause of faith and not anie words or writings which are rather the external reuelation then the reuealer And hence it is that though in holie Scripture there be diuine veritie and that which is to be beleued with diuine faith yet if scripture be taken alone by it self meerely as it is such words or writings it hath no formal authoritie or veracitie to cause its veritie to be beleued For as such it is neither anie intellectuall person nor hath any intellectuall person adioned to it for whose authoritie it should be beleued Wherefore wel said Stapleton Controu 3. q. 1. ar 2. credimus scripturam non scripturae becaus scripture hath in it self truth which is beleued but not authoritie for which it is beleued And likewise wel wrote Chillingw c. 2. p. 69. That the diuinitie of a writing cannot Note this be known for it self alone but by some extrinsecal authoritie you need not proue for no wise man denieth it And ibid. p. 114. A written rule must always need something els which either is euidently true or euidently credible to giue attestation to it And laude sect 16. p. 88. Scripture cannot bear witnes to it self nor one part of it to an other The same saieth Hooker l. 2. § 4. And g See infra l. 1. c. 14. Protestants generally confess that the scripture cannot be beleued of vs without the attestation of the Church The true cause whereof is that scripture of it self hath no authoritie but al the authoritie for which it is beleued is out of it self to wit in God who is author of it and in his Church who is witnes to it And when graue authors attribute authoritee to the scripture ether by authoritie they mean veritie or they take not scripture by it sels alone but as it is the scripture of God As in like manner they say the scripture saiâ—th this teacheth this affirmeth this speaketh this meaning God by scripture But Gods authoritie alone doth not in ordinarie course engender faith and we seeke that authoritie on earth without which Gods authoritie alone wil not in ordinarie course engender diuine faith of the scripture or of any thing els which authoritie euidently and confessedly is not in the scripture it self 8. The eight ground is that to a Four things in a proposer Proposer of points of faith properly so called there be long foure things 1. is his person 2. his Authoritie to propose such matters 3. his proposal which is his words or writings And 4 the truth proposed and signified by his words or writings For a Propoâ—er of matters of faith is a Preacher who proposeth or preacheth ether by word onely as most of the Apostles did or by writings also as S. Paul and some other Apostles Netherwords nor writings are proposers did And as their words were no Proposers but that by which they proposed so nether were theire writings anie Proposers but were that by which they proposed And of all the four said things only the twoe last are in the scripture and therefore it cannot be properly the Proposâ—r of faith but onely the Proposal if we consider the words and the Proposed if we consider the truth which the words signifie But al the foure are in the Church of God And Protestants cannot denie that she is a person or persons nor that her words or writings are her Proposals or the truth signified by them her truth Proposed Nether do they whereim Protestants grant diuine authoritie to the Châ—râ—h deny that she hath diuine authoritie to propose matters of faith as to teach Gods word and administer his Sacraments giuen to her in the last of S. Mathew onely they denie that her authoritie to testifie or persuade that which she teacheth is infallible and sufficient as an external and subordinat cause to engender diuine beleef of what she teacheth In which they do not consequently why Protestants de not speake consequently proceed For first how can the authoritie of the Church be diuine in proposing Gods word and be not infallible in proposing it secondly how can she haue diuine and infallible authoritie to preach Gods word and not haue the like authoritie to testifie and perswade that it is Gods word which she preacheth seing persuation that it is Gods word which she preacheth Persuasion is the end of preaching is the end of her preaching as is euident and Whitaker confesseth in these words l. 2. de scriptura p. 281. Preaching is instituted for persuation Would God giue to his Church diuine auctoritie for the means and not for the end seing The end more desired then 〈◊〉 the means euerie rational desirer desireth more the end then the means Thirdly Protestants grant that God hath giuen diuine authoritie to the Pastors of his Church for to gouern her Whitaker l. 2. de scrip p. 246. Ministers of the Church are iâ—strvments of the holy Ghost enduâ—d with diuine authoritie to gouern the Church committed to them And if Pastors haue diuineauthoritie to gouern the Church haue they not also diuine authoritie to persuade her that it is Gods word which they teach her Is not diuine authoritie as necessarie to Pastors for to persuade the Church as to gouern it and right beleef as necessarie to the Church as good gouernment More ouer Chillingw c. 2. p. 105. Protestants generally confess that the church of God is infallible in fundamental points and so infallible that it implieth contradiction that she should err in them And how can she be so infallible in them and be not infallible by Gods special and effectual assistance can the church of her own nature or power be infallible in such high matters aboue nature and reason Nay it seems so absurd euen to Protestants themselues to deny the church of God to haue diuine authoritie to testifie Gods truth as sometimes they deny it but restritctly as i Laude sec 16. 19. and 10. that it is not simplâ— diuine not absolutely diuine or that she is not k Potter sec 5. p. â—5 I whitaker Contr. 1. q. 3. c. 11. absolutly infallible and confess that the iudgment of the church is in some sorte diuine and call it a slander that they say the iudgment of the church is meer humane But in truth they make her authoritie in matters of faith meer humane yea less and none at al. For thus Whitaker Contr. 1. q. 5. c. 10. In the church thou shalt finde nothing but humane and therefore vncertain l. 3. de script p. 395. The perpetual testimonie of the church as far as it is of the Church is but humane testimonie p.
327. The testimonie of the church of it self is wholy and meerly humane And l. 1. p. 112. The authoritie of the matters of the church is of no moment p. 16. An Protestants deny all authoritie of the Church in matters of faith argument taken from the bare testimonie of the Cburch to confirme anie point of faith is fond vnfit and vnforcible to perswade l. 3. p. 482. The testimonie of the church vnles it be strengthned by scripture is not worth a farthing in matters of faith And l. 2. p. 235. The Church hath no authoritie in matters of faith but all is Gods alone And ibid. In matters of faith and engendring faith the Church hath no authoritie at all And to this blasphemous denial of the churches authoritie in matters of faith m See infra c. 16. n. 5. Chillingworth addeth that no certain Church vniuersal or particular is infallible euen in fundamental points but onely that there shal be always some vncertain men who shal hold al the fundamental points 3. The ninth ground is that as the Apostles may be considered as they were so manie honest men and â—o no doubt theyr authoritie was but humane or as Apostles diuinely assisted in matters of faith and so their authoritie was diuine as Protestants confess infra c. 4. so the church of God may be considered as so manie honest and vertuous men and so doubtles her authoritie is but humane and fallible or as she is the Church of God the pillar and ground of truth guided by Christ her head and effectually assisted by the holie Ghost and so we say her authoritie in matters of faith is diuine and infallible though not in that high degree as the Apostles was But Protestans when they say that the authoritie of the Church is but humane in matters of faith consider her only as she is such men wherein they proceed as if speaking of a man they should consider only his bodie not thinking of his head or Soule For the true church The church is a misticall bodie whereof Christ is the head and the holie Ghost the soule of Christ is a misticall bodie whereof Christ is the head and the holie Ghost the soule and in matters of faith is guided by this head and effectually assisted by this soule according to Christs manifest and expresse promise as we shall see heereafter and therefore in such matters hath diuine and infallible authoritie from hersaid head and soule And what maruel that a bodie whereof Christ is head and the holie Ghost the soule hath truly diuine authoritie that is be truely and effectually assisted by its diuine head and soule to propose nothing as of faith but what is truth And Vvhat iâ— meant by diuine authoritie of the Church to be thus truly and effectually diuinely assisted is all the diuine authoritie which we attribute to the church and is both sufficient and necessarie for the ends for which God appointed her as we shall see presently 10. The tenth ground are the ends The end for which God gaue diuine infallibilitie to his church for which God gaue diuine infallibilitie to his Church and her Pastors which if they be well considered wil clearly shew that he hath giuen her and them diuine infallibilitie in matters of faith For he hath made his church the pillar and ground of diuine truth 1. Timoth. 3. which she cannot be without diuine infallibilitie in diuine truth And becaus he made her pillar and ground not of a part of diuine truth but simply of diuine truth and that fundamental points are but a part of diuine truth and the least part too he made her diuinely infallible not onely in fundamental points but in all points which he would haue be beleued with diuine faith And this our Sauiour expressed more fully when he said to his Apostles that he would send them the holie Ghost for to teach them all Ioâ—n 14. §. 16 Matt. 16. things all truth Likewise because Christ hath made his church so firme and strong as the gates of hel cannot preuail against her and that euerie sinful error in any point of faith is formal haeresie and a * gate Greg. in psal 5. pâ—niâ— Portae inferi hâ—reses sunt of hel destructiue of the church as I shewed parte 1. l. 2. c. 6. therefore he hath giuen his church diuine infallibilitie in all matters of faith for to resist any haeresie in what point of faith soeuer And in like manner because God hath made the Pastors Ends for which God gaue diuine infallibilitie to the Pastors of his church the external cause and his instrument and means of engendring diuine infallible faith Rom. 10. he hath giuen them diuine infallibilitie in all matters of faith because no inferior infallibilitie would suffice as I shewed n. 3. And likewise because he hath made them his instruments and means not to engender a parte of faith as fundamental points are but all faith becaus the Apostle saith not how shall they beleue funâ—amental points without hearing a preacher but simply how shall shey beleue he hath giuen them diuine authoritie and infallibilitie for all points which â—e are to beleue And in like sort because God hath giuen Pastors and Doctors not Ephes c. 4. only for the fouÌ„datioÌ„ of the bodie of Christ or for the making of Saints but also for the edification or building of Christs bodie and câ—nsummation or perfection of Saints vnto a perfect man and that fundamental points cannot doe all this but not fundamental points as they are true points of diuine faith so they are necessarie to the building of Christs bodie and Not fundamental points are of the perfection of faith consummation of his Saints vnto a perfect man therefore he hath giuen them diuine authoritie and infallibilitie euen in not fundamental points And the Apostle though no doubt he had taught the Thessalonians al fundamental points yet he desired to add those things which he said were wanting to their faith which 1. Thessal c. 3. was to consummat or perfect theyr faith And as far as the edification of Christs bodie and consummation of faith extendeth so far extendeth the Pastors diuine infallibilitie which is giuen to them for this end 11. And hence riseth the eleuenth ground which is that seing n Caluin 4. Instit. c. 〈◊〉 § 3. c 2. §. 1. c. 8. Vvitaker Contr. 2 q 4. c 2 â—otter sess Ep. 22. Protestants forced by the euidencie of truth doe confesse that the Church is infallible in necessarie points of faith if they would grant that she is infallible as well in points necessarie to anie men as in points necessarie to all men and in points as wel necessarie by reason of the formal cause of beleef which is diuine reuelation sufficiently proposed though they be not necessarie by reason of their matter which is to be beleued though by reason also of that they be necessarie to the
Proposal of matters of faith and therfore not Proposers 3. The second condition necessarie to a sufficient external Proposer of points of faith instituted by God is that his authoritie be c See infra 〈◊〉 5. n. 2. diuine or diuinely assisted as the Apostles was and infallible in Proposing them The reason is becaus points of faith are supernatural and diuine and to be beleued so assuredly as we ought to d See infra 62. 6. 8. sec 1. curse an Angel if he saied the contrarie Galat. 1. And therfore no humane or natural authoritie but that which passeth Angelical authoritie and is supernatural and diuine is apt or sufficient to cause such assurance of diuine matters And this e Vvitaker l. 1. descrip p. 392. 415. Potter sect 5. p 7. See infra l. 5. n. 5. and l. 2. c. 11. n. 1. Protestants grant For becaus they think the scripture onely hath diuine and infallible authoritie they make it alone the assured Proposer of points of faith Besides by a sufficient Proposer we mean such á one as proposeth matters of faith so sufficiently as matters of diuine faith require and whose proposal is such as it bindeth men to beleue with diuine faith what he proposeth and such it could not be vnless his authoritie in proposing were infallible diuine or diuinely assisted efficaciously 4. The third condition is sufficient claritie in his proposing points of faith The reason is becaus if he donot clearly enough propose vnto vs the points of faith we cannot be assured what he proposeth or what we are to beleue 5. The fourth condition is that his Proposal be necessarie in ordinarie course for vs to haue faith The reason is becaus if his Proposal were not necessarie to vs for to haue faith he were not the ordinarie External Proposer instituted by God without whose concurse God wil not in ordinarie course produce faith 6. The fift condition is that he be vniuersal for time for place for points of faith and for al kindes of men capable of External Proposal The reason is becaus the external Proposer without whose concurse God wil not in ordinarie course engender faith must propose al points of faith must be present in al times when God engendereth faith in al places where he engendereth faith and present to al kinds of men capable of external Proposal in whome he engendereth faith And otherwise he were not the ordinarie external Proposer without whose concurse God in ordinarie course wil not engender faith And we enquire who is this ordinarie external Proposer of points of faith becaus onely he is necessarie to be known Now of al these conditions onely Infallibilitie and claritie in some points agree to scripture as is euident by it self and we shal proue more hereafter and therfore it is not the ordinarie External Proposer necessarie to be sought and they al agree to the true Church as we shal proue euidently by Gods holie assistance And we wil begin with her Infalibilitie in matters of faith For that she is a companie of Intellectual persons needs no proof which we wil proue by plain places of Scripture testimonies of Holie Fathers reason grounded in Scripture and open Confessions of learned Protestants Becaus the denial of the Churchs Infallibilitie in matters of faith is the formal cause of al Heresies and Infidelitie as her Infallibilitie or veracitie in matters of faith is the formal external cause of al diuine faith For she being by testimonie of the Holie Scripture apointed by God to be the pillar ground and witness of diuine truth must needs be the formal External cause of our beleife of diuine truth without which God ordinarily wil not engender faith and consequently The rote of al Heresie the denial of the Infallibilitie of this pillar ground and witness must needs be a formal cause of al heresie or Infidelitie opposit to beleif of diuine truth and of Hereticks vncertaintie what they are to beleue firmely and vndoubtedly For who leaue the pillar ground and testimonie of truth can neuer be firmely setled Wheras Catholicks relying firmely vpon this pillar and standing fast vpon this ground setled by God and testimonie appointed by him are firme and constant in their faith and iustly giue it for a sufficient secoÌ„darie reason of what they beleue because the pillar ground and testimonie of truth is most iustly giuen for such a sufficient reason of our beleuing truth Yet before we proue the Churches diuine veracitie or infallibilitie in matters of faith we wil proue that God can giue to men such a diuine veracitie or infallibilitie becaus this is some step to proue that he hath giuen it at least it remoueth a great impediment of beleuing that he hath giuen it and besides it maketh the testimonies wherwith we wil afterwards proue that he hath giuen such Infallibilitie to be more vndoubted FOVRTH CHAPTER That God can giue to men a diuine veracitie or Infallibilitie in proposing matters of faith 1. THERE be two kinds of diuine Infallibilitie the one Twoe kindes of diuine Infallib litie increate and intrinsecally diuine which is in God himself who is the prime veracitie the other create and but extrinsecally diuine in that it is diuinely and efficaciously assisted by God to teach nothing but truth and therfore but analogically called diuine as a holesome medicin is tearmed healthfull And in this sorte was the authoritie of the Prophets and Apostles diuine and is the authoritie or veracitie of the true Church of God in matters of faith The former diuine authoritie or veracitie is the principal alone sufficient and absolutly necessarie cause of diuine faith the latter is but secondarie not alone sufficient nor simply necessarie cause of diuine faith but onely a sufficient external subordinat cause and necessarie onely in ordinarie course yet both these authorities or veracities are so Infallible as it implieth contradiction that ether of them should teach anie vntruth And as for the former that need no proaf and the like is manifest of the latter For it is plain contradiction that one diuinely ad effectually assisted by God to teach truth should teach vntruth And therfore this latter kinde of veracitie may be a sufficient external and subordinate cause of diuine and infallible faith such as implieth contradiction to be fals For a diuine veracitâ—â—â— or authoritie which implieth contradiction to See infra c. 5. n. 7. teach vntruth may be a sufficient external cause of such faith as implieth contradiction to be fals and may be iustly giuen as such for a sufficient cause of our beleef And this is that kinde of diuine authoritie or veracitie which we say God can giue to men and which he hath giuen to his Church in matters of faith Neuertheless we doe not make the Infallibilitie of the Church equal to the Infallibilitie of the Prophets and Apostles for their Infallibilitie was by immediate reuelation from God and sufficient to propose euen new points
If anie obey not our word note him And 1. Ioan. 4. v. 6. who knoweth God heareth vs who is not of God heareth not vs In this we know the spirit of truth and spirit of error Where doubtles he speaketh of infallible knowledg of God by hearing him and infallible knowledg could not haue been by hearing him if he had not been infallible in teaching Gods truth And these testimonies of scripture doe not only proue that God can giue to men diuine and infallible authoritie or veracitie but also that he hath giuen it to some 4. That the holie Fathers thought that God can giue diuine or infallible authoritie or veracitie to men wil be euident out of their testimonies a Infra c. 7. hereafter brought to proue that he hath giuen such to the Church And Reason conuinceth that he can giue such authoritie or veracitie to men because it implieth not contradiction For what contradiction can be pretended that God can if he please effectually assist some so that they teach nothing in matters of faith but truth as he efficaciously assisteth the elect that they cannot be led into error Math. 24. And his effectual assistance maketh their authoritie or veracitie to be so diuine Infallible as we desire and is sufficient to be an external ministerial or subordinat cause of diuine and infallible faith For it implieth contradiction that who is efficaciously assisted by God to say but truth should lie And I take it to be so euident that God can giue such authoritie or veracitie to his Church or to men as I think scarce anie Protestant wil haue the face â—o denie it For this is not to make men or the Church Primam veritatem prime veritie as Whitaker fondly argueth l. 2. de scrip p. 230. but only a secondarie veritie or veracitie subordinat and depending vpon Gods prime veritie or veracitie If God can giue to men endles eternitie and yet not make them Gods why can he not also giue them infallible veritie or veracitie and yet not make them Gods or Prime veritie If he can make weakmen not to fall why can he not make the Church not to err in points of faith If he can make that the elect who are the principal part of the Church shal not be led into error Matth. 24 why can he not make the Church it self § 45. Naye so manifest it is See infra c. 15. and Cal uin in Luc. 10. v. 16. that God can giue to men this kinde of diuine veracitie or infallibilitie as Protestants themselues sometimes confess that he hath giuen it to men For thus Whitaker l. 3. de scripturâ p. 395. The testimonie of the holie Diuine Ghost is internal of the Apostles external both in their kindâ—s diuine Sufficient l. 2. p. 310. the authoritie alone of the Apostles sufficed to cause faith l. 1. p. 46. The Apostles authoritie was so great that you might safely beleue their preaching for it self P. 49. though the Apostles were men yâ—t they were so extraordinarily gouerned of the holie Ghost Râ—lied on their testimonie that most certaine faith relied on their testimonie P. 51. The Apostles for their fulnes of the holie Ghost by certaine Marks deserued assured authoritie so as we beleue them alone Controu 2 q. 3. c. 5. the Apostles did consigne the canon as most certaine organs of the holie Ghost endued with diuine authoritie l. 1. de Scrip. c. 8. p. 86. it was safe to Diuine beleue Paul but speaking Laude Relat of the Controu sec 16. p. 81. If the speech be of the prime Christian Church the Apostles disciples and such as had immediat reuelation from heauen no question but the voice and tradition of this Church is diuine not Simply dâ—uine aliquo modo in a sort but simply P. 84. In the voice of the primitiue and Apostolical Church there was simply diuine authoritie P. 85. we resolue only into Resolue into Apostolical tradition prime tradition Apostolical and scripture it self P. 91. Euerie assistance of Christ and the blessed Spirit is not enough to make the authoritie of anie companie of men diuine and infallible but such and so great an assistance only as is purposely giuen to that effect Such an assistance the Prophets vnder the old testament and the Apostles vnder the New had P. 102. we haue a double diuine Diuine testimonie altogeither infallible to confirme to vs that scripture is the word of God The first is the tradition of the Apostles themselues The other the Scripture it self And into these we doe and may safely resolue our faith Sec. Safely resolue into Tradition 18. p. 123. The Prophets testimonie was diuine Sec. 33. p. 239. Al the places Diuine ether speak of the Church including the Apostles as al of them doe and then al grant the voice of the Church is Gods voice diuine and Infallible Potter sec 5. p. 5. The prime Church I call that which included Christ and the Apostles who had immediat reuelation Simply diuine from heauen the voice and testimonie of their Church is simply diuine and Infallible Ibid. p. 30. Their general Councels authoritie is immediatly deriued and delegated from Christ sec 1. p. 25. The high preist in cases of moment had a certaine priuiledg from error if he consulted the diuine oracle by the iudgement of Vrim or by the breast plate of iudgment wherin were Vrim and Thummim wherby he had an absolutly infallible direction If anie such Absolutely infallible promise of God to assist the Pope could be produced his decisions might then iustly pass for oracles without examination Behold the high Priest in cases of moment had a priuiledg from error had an absolutly infallible direction and if the Pope had such his decisions might pass for oracles Humfrey ad Rat. 3. Camp p. 214. Rock of faith we confess the Apostolik Church to be the rock of our faith Chillingworth c. 2. paragrapho 138. we saie that Infallibilitie continued in the Church euen togeither with the scripture so long as Christ and his Apostles were liuing And parag 155. As the Apostles persons whiles they were liuing were the only iudges of controuersies so their writings now they are dead are the onlie Rule to iudg them by Feild lib. 4. of the Greater then scripture Church c 11. If the comparison be made between the Church including the Euangelists we denie not but the Church is of greater authoritie antiquitie and excellencie then the scripture of the new testament White in his waie p. 74. The Apostles teaching was infallible Behold the authoritie the testimonie the voice the tradition of the Prophets Apostles Euangelists and of the Primitiue Church is altogeither infallible is diuine not in a sorte but simply as Gods voice is a sufficient cause of faith is to be beleued for it self for which alone we may beleue into which we maie resolue our faith the rock of faith
Apostles words to the particular Church of Ephesus is not sufficient both becaus the pronoune Thou Which is their Ground is not in the Greek text which alone Protestants account c See infra l. 2 c. 9. sect 2. authentical as also becaus S. Timothe conuersed in the vniuersal Church as euerie citizen conuerseth in the cittie though he liue not in euerie parte therof d Iunius l. 3. de eccles c. 14. â—liâ—nsis Respons-ad Bellarm c. 14. Others therfore distinguish the word pillar and saie that the Church is not the pillar on which diuine truth relieth but such a pillar as truth is put vpon to be read as in old time Edicts were put vpon pillars to be read This shift also is new not found in anie ancieÌ„t author nor grouÌ„ded in anie word of the text nay plainly contrarie to the meaning therof For the Church is saied to be such a pillar as Ground is and Ground is not to laie truth or Edicts vpon but to vphold things And so plain it is that the Church is here called a pillar of truth becaus it vpholdeth it amongst men as Caluin vpon this place saieth Becaus in Contr. 3. q. 5. c. 2. Fundamentum sustinet e dificium Reinolds Confer p. 557. respect of men she susteineth truth Whitaker contr 2. q. 4. c. 2. She is like to a pillar in this that as a pillar doth sustâ—in the whole building and make it more firme so the Church doth sustein and vphold truth And ibid. q. 1. c. 13. It belongeth to a pillar to sustein others in truth Nether do these men who grant the Church to be such a pillar as susteineth truth amongst men differ from Catholiks about the Churches susteining truth amongst men but about the manner how she doth sustein it to wit whether by onely preaching truth as they would or by preaching and by her authoritie also of testifying as Catholiks teach For a pillar and ground is to be relied on But to this purpose al is one by what meanes she susteins infallible truth For if she sustein infallible truth by teaching it she must be infallible in teaching it Beside if truth be alwaies tied to the Church she is alwaies infallible 4. Others distinguish the word d Moulins cont Peron c. 13. Chilling c. 3. p. 177. Vsheâ—â— Reionder p. 25. Is and say that the Apostles meaning is not that the Church is the pillar of truth but oâ—ely that she ought to be or it is the dutie of the Church to be the pillar of truth This exposition is as the former new and voluntarie and therfore a plain shift to delude the text and contrarie to the Apostles words who saieth not what is the dutie of the Church or what she ought to be but what she is Nether could it be her dutie to vphold truth if she were not made infallible For it were impossible for her to performe it e Vvhitaker contr 2. q. 4. c. 2. Others therfore distinguish the word Truth into necessarie and not necessarie and grant that the Church is the pillar and ground of al necessarie truth But as I haue said and must often say albeit onely the principal articles of faith be necessarie to diuine faith and saluation by reason of the matter which is to be beleued yet al articles of faith are also necessarie by reason of the formal cause for which they are to be beleued which is diuine reuelation sufficiently proposed and which is most necessarie to diuine faith and which is denied if anie article of faith be not beleued I add also that al articles of faith euen by reason of the matter which they conteine are necessarie to the better being of faith and of the faithful or as the Apostle speaketh to the consummation of Saints Seing therfore al articles of faith be two waies necessarie there is no reason to limit the Apostles speech to anie certaine articles especially when as Morton saieth in his Grand Imposture c. 2. sec 6. It is the law of allawes Non Rule not to distinguish See Gerlaâ—hius tom 2. dâ—sput 24. distinguendum vbi lex non distinguit Which he repeateth ibid. c. 13. and tom 2. Apol. l. 2. c. 22. Moreouer seeing none knoweth precisely which points are fundamental or absolutly necessarie to be actually beleued of euerie one which not it were to no purpose for vs that the Church were infallible in fundamental points only becaus we know not which are al the fundamental points and notknowing which they are we caÌ„not know in which points of faith the Church is infallible in which not And then what good would her Infallibilitie which is giuen to her for our good doe to vs I add also that Protestants are not â—See part 1. l. 1. c. 7. constant whether the Church be infalliblein fundameÌ„tal points or no. And that if indeed the Church were infallible in fundamental points her authoritie as I saied before were in such points diuine and we might giue her authoritie as a iust secondarie cause of our beleuing them and in them relie on her authoritie as vpon a sure pillar or ground of faith both which Protestants The Churches preaching a â—â—â—se of faith denie 5. Our second proof of the Infallibilitie of the Church in al points of faith shal be taken from that in scripture her preaching is saied to be a cause and that necessarie in or dinarie course of diuine and infallible faith Rom. 10. v. 14. How shal they beleue whome they haue not heard And how shal they heare with out a preacher How shal they preach vnles they be sent Therfore faith is of hearing In which words the Churches preaching is made a cause and that necessarie in ordinarie course of infallible faith and faith is saied to be of hearing her preaching the word of God Wherfore thus I argue in forme The necessarie cause in ordinarie course of infallible faith is infallible The Churches preaching is the necessarie cause in ordinarie course of infallible faith Therfore her preaching is infallible The Maior is euident becaus a humane and fallible cause cannot produce a diuine and infallible effect And g See sup n. 2. as Whitaker l. 1. de scrip p. 166. The effect doth not surpass the cause And less can it be a necessarie cause therof becaus what is fallible cannot be necessarie for what is fallible maie faile and what is necessarie to faith cannot faile Besides al grant that the extraordinarie cause of infallible faith by the preaching of the Apostles and Prophets was infallible as we shewed in the fourth Chapter n. 5. and why not also the ordinarie cause by the preaching of the Church seeing the end of both preachings is the same to wit infallible faith For if ordinarie fallible aâ—thoritie in the Church can cause infallible faith what need had God to giue infallible authoritie to the Prophets and Apostles for that end The minor to wit that the Churches preaching
could drie vp al the brooks of thy Propositions with the onely sun of the Church 8. S. Austin l. de haeres saieth of the Donatists They dare rebaptize Catholiks wherin they more shewed themselues to be heretiks seeing the whole Catholik Church hath iudged that euen in heretiks vsual baptisme is not to be reiected Behold Donatists accounted heretiks becaus they went against the iudgement of the whole Church And in the end saieth of al heresies reckoned there by him it is superfluous to ask what the Church iudgeth of them when it sufficeth to See Potter sect 2. p. 33. know that she iudgeth against them Behold the iudgment of the Church suffiseth to condemn heresies Lib. de Vnitate c. 22. Thiâ— is nether openly nor euidently read ether by you or by me yet if there were anie wiseman of whome our Sauior had giuen testimonie and that he should be consulted in this question we would make no doubt to doe what he should say least we might seem to gain say not him so much as Christ by whose testimonie he was commended Now Christ beareth witnes to his Church Item Whosoeuer refuseth to follow the practise of the Church doth refuse our Sauior himself who by his testimonie recommendeth this Church Behold that to denie the Churches testimonie to be sufficient in matters of faith is to denie Christs testimonie of her Chillingworth c. 1. n. 163 saieth that S. Augustin in saying that some point of faith is nether openly nor euidently read inscripture contradicteth forsooth himself becaus l. 2. de Doctr. Christ c. 9. he saieth In these things which are openly put in scripture are al those found which conteine faith and manner of life But S. Austin there speaketh of al thinges which conteine faith and manner of life l Morton tom 2. Apost l. 1. c 49. verum respondes necessarie simply to euerie one or which are necessarie as he addeth to haue hope and charitie or which commeth alto one he speaketh of the Rule of faith Which as he saieth l. 3. de Doctr. Christ c. 2. is receaued from the plainer places of scripture Beside which kinde of points of faith there are others which are nether openly nor euidently read in Scripture and such was the baptisme of heretiks wherof he spake lib. de vnit c. cit But what is this to S. Austins authoritie that who contradicteth the Church in a matter of faith contradicteth Christ and who followeth her followeth Christ becaus he giueth witnes to her Lib. 2. de Baptist c. 4. Nether durst we say anie such thing that baptisme of Heretiks is vailable vnles we were assured by the most agreeing authoritie of the whole Church Behold the authoritie of the Church both sufficient and necessarie for some point of faith And ibid. c. 9. The whole world was held by the strength of Custome of the Church and this alone was opposed against those who brought in Noueltie And was not that sufficient which held the whole world and which alone was opposed to erroneous Noueltie Lib. 7. de Baptis c. 53. It is sâ—fâ— for vs to auouch with confidence of secure voice what in the Gouernment of our Lord Iesus Christ is confirmed with consent of the vniuersal Church Lib. 2. contra Crescon c. 32. I doe not receaue what Cyprian thought of baptizing heretiks and Schismatiks becaus the Church doth not receaue it Lib. contra Epist fund c. Becaus 5. which book of the acts I must needs beleue if I beleue the Ghospel becaus both books Catholik authoritie doth Becaâ—s alike commend to me Behold Catholik authoritie bindeth vs to beleue books of Scripture and is a cause why we beleue them l. 2. de Doctr. Christ c. 8. The Books of Wisdom and Becaus Ecclesiasticus are to be accounted prophetical becaus they haue been admitted into authoritie And l. 3. c. 2. let him consult the Rule of faith which he hath receaued from the plaineâ— places of scripture and from the authoritie of the Church Epist 56. Al the height of authoritie is setled in that holie name of Christ and in his one Church for recreating and reformiâ—g mankind And calleth the authoritie of Church most firme sermone 14. de Verbis Apostoli c. 21. This is a grounded thing an erring Disputer is to be borne with in other questions not diligently disgested nor yet made firme by ful authoritie of the Church There Error is to be borne with but it ought not to goe so far that it endeauour to shake the foundation it self of the Church Behold dispute in matters not determined by the Church may be borne with al but not with matters determined by her ful authoritie lib. 10. de Genesi ad literam c. 23. The custome of our Mother the Church in baptizing Infants is noe way to be despised not yet at al to be beleued vnles it were an Apostolical tradition Laude sec 15. p. 57. answereth that S. Austin meaneth not that tradition is the cause of our beleuing the baptisme of Infants but that it is the cause that we sought and found it in scripture But this is a plain euasion For S. Austin speaketh not of our seeking the Baptisme of Infants in Scripture nor of the cause of our finding it there but of our beleuing it and plainly sayeth that the cause of our beleuing it is tradition and that without tradition it were not at al to be beleued 9. And so vndoubted a thing it was in the time of the Fathers that the Church of God is a sufficient and infallible Proposer of matters of faith as euen Pelagius in S. Austin l. de gestis Pelagij c. 19. professed I curse Ancient heretiks confessed the Church to be â—nfallible al that gain say or contradict the doctrins of the holie Catholik Church And Dioscorus in Concil Chalced. Act. 1. If Euthyches think contrarie to the doctrin of the Church he is worthie not onely of punishment but euen of fire But now Gentle Reader consider first how manie omitting m Viâ—cent c. 1. 14 32. manie more for breuities sake testimonies of holie fathers haue been brought for the sufficiencie and infallibilitie of the Church in matters of faith Secondly how cleare and euident as some of them are confessed by Protestants to be against them Thirdly how vnlikelie it is that in this so main and clear a matter the Fathers should ether contradict themselues or be contrarie some to others Fourthly how Protestants expositions of those testimonies which they wil not grant to be against them are voluntarie not grounded in the words of the Fathers nay violent and contrarie to the vsual sense of such words and therfore are mere shifts inuented for to delude Fathers authoritie And thus hauing proued both by holie scripture and Fathers that the true Church of God is a sufficient and infallible Proposer of points of faith let vs proue the same by reason Onely I wil add D. Rainolds confession
both books alike Which Present Church authoritie made Whitaker contr 1. q. 3. c. 7. to say we may be forced by the authoritie of the Church to beleue these books to be Canonical And if forced to beleue by authoritie of the Church then the authoritie of the Church is a most effectual and sufficient cause of infallible beleif And in the same place S. Austin I would not beleue the Gospel vnles the Authoritie of the Catholik Church did moue me which clearly testifieth the necessitie of the Churches proposal and made Whitaker q. cit c. 8. to grant that it is true we should not beleue the Gospel vnles thâ— Catholik Church did propose it But S Austin saieth more If the Catholik Churches authoritie did not moue me And it is far more for Catholik authoritie to moue vs to beleue then for the Church onely to propose Men of no authoritie may propose but authoritie which moueth to beleue the Gospel and with out which we cannot beleue the Gospel must needs be necessarie and infallible authoritie For beleif of the Gospel is infallible and such must be the authoritie that so moueth vs to it as without which we cannot beleue Commonly Protestants answer that S. Austin spake these words of himself as he was an heretik But this cannot be becaus as he was an heretik he did not beleue the authoritie it self of the Catholik Church and therfore as such he could not be moued to beleue the Scripture for her authoritie For how could he be moued to beleue the Scripture for that which it self he did not beleue Secondly becaus he saieth not non credidissem as Morton tom Apol. l. 1 c. 37 falsly citeth him but non crederem which words properly are to be vnderstood of him as he was minded at that present And al a August de Doctrina l. 3 c. 10. 11. Tertul de â—arnâ— Christi c. 13 15. words are to be vnderstood according to their proprietie if the contrarie be not manifest For otherwise we should be vncertain how to vnderstand men And it is not manifest that S. Austin did not vse those his words according to their proprietie Wherfore Morton loco cit granteth that S. Austin maketh the Church the meanes by which a Catholik beleueth and the reason without which not which sufficeth for my present purpose to shew the necessitie of the Churches proposal for the meanes by which and reason without which not are necessarie Thirdly becaus afterward S. Austin addeth The authoritie of Catholiks being weakned I can no more beleue the Gospel which he spake plainly of himself as he was then a Catholik and shew that his beleef of the Gospel euen both then and for the time after depended on the authoritie of the Church I add also that though S. Austin had saied the foresaied word of himself onely as he was an heretik yet it would thence follow that the proposal and authoritie of the Church is at least necessarie to begin beleif of the Gospel howsoeuer it be not necessarie for to continue it And it cannot be saied that is is necessarie so onely as an inducement or disposition to such beleef becaus as S. b L. de vtil cred c. 11. Austin saieth That we know we owe to reason that we beleue to authoritie So that as Reason is the formal cause of our knowledg so is Authoritie the formal cause of our beleef and such cause of our beleef of the Gospel is the authoritie of the Catholik Church such not principal but subordinate to Gods authoritie Chillingworth c. 2. § 54 p. 54. p. 73. and § 97. p. 88. saieth That S. Austin by Catholik Church meanerh the Church of al ages including Christ and the Apostles But nether proueth he that nor can tel how S. Austin could be infallibly certain of the testimonie of the Church of Christ and the Apostles time but by the testimonie of the Church of his time Which if it were not infallible he could not be infallibly certain of the testimonie of the Church of Christ and the Apostles time Beside S. Austin sheweth that he meaneth of the authoritie of the present Church in saying The Catholik authoritie doth commend to me both books alike And l. 1. contra Crescon c. 33. The truth of Scripture is held when we doe what now seemeth to the whole Church Which is plainly ment of the present Church The same S. Austin as is before cited saieth l. 10. de Gen. ad literam c. 23. That baptisme of Infants were not to be beleued vnles it were an Apostolical tradition And l. 2. de baptismo c. 4. that he durst not defend the baptisme giuen by heretiks vnles he were assured by the authoritie of the Church Therfore he thought the authoritie of the Church necessarie to beleue those points of faith Vincentius l. 1. c. 2. Here possibly one may demand when the rule of Scripture is perfect and in it self more then enough sufficient vnto al things what need is there to ioine vnto it the authoritie of the Churches sense And he answereth this is becaus al men doe not take it in one sense therfore it is necessarie that the line of interpretation be directed according to the rule of Ecclesiastical and Catholik sense Behold the sense of the Church necessarie to vnderstand the Scripture rightly And the same Vincent 16. c. 41. It is necessarie that the vnderstanding of the holie Scripture be directed according to the onely rule of the Churches sense And if the vnderstanding of the Scripture must be directed according to the sense of the Church doubtles the sense of the Church is necessarie THIRTEENTH CHAPTER That the true Church of God is a necessarie proposer of al points of faith proued by reason grounded in Scripture 1. FIrst What is Gods ordinarie meanes of teaching faith is in ordinarie course necessarie to haue faith Gods ordinarie means of teaching faith is by the Church therfore his means of teaching by the Church is in ordinarie course necessarie The Maior seemeth euident by it self and the Minor is proued by those places Rom. 10. Faithis of hearing lawful preaching Ephes 4. God hath put Pastors for consummation of Saints 1. Tim. 5. The Church is the pillar and ground of truth and so euident as Whitaker l. 1. de Scrip. p. 73. saieth That the ordinarie manner by which God teacheth is by the Church I willingly grant 2. Secondly becaus nether Scripture nor reading of Scripture is a necessarie cause of engendring faith in ordinarie course Therfore the preaching of the Church is such a means For there is doubtles some ordinarie means instituted by God which in ordinarie course is necessarie and if not Scripture nor reading of Scripture surely the Church and her preaching For no other can be reasonably imagined The Antecedent I proue becaus as I saied before for manie ages before Moyses there was no Scripture at al nor for some yeares after Christ was there anie Scripture of
not By. which books be Canonical by anie other testimonie then of the Church And c. 8. Austin indeed saieth he was held in the Church for testimonie of Catholiks and consent of Nacions But as himself saieth l. 1. de Script p. 39. To beleue for the Church and for the Churches For sheweth the reason of beleef authoritie sheweth the cause and reason of beleef The same he saieth p. 46. And Chillingworth c. 2. p. 68. To say we receaue the books of the new So doth Becaus testament commonly receaued becaus they are so were indeed to make Commonly receaued a rule or reason to know the Canon by And indeed as I saied before what other kinde of cause of beleef can these particles Becaus or For signifie but some formal cause of beleef And the same Chillingworth c. 3. p. 152. It followeth not that becaus the Churches authoritie is warrant enough for vs to beleue some Vvarrant enough for to beleue doctrin touching which the Scripture is silent therfore it is warrant enough to beleue these to which the Scripture seemes repugnant Now the doctrins which S. Austin receaued vpon the Churches authoritie were of the first sorte Which is plainly to confess that S. Austin receaued some doctrins vpon the Churches authoritie and that the Churches authoritie is warrant enough to beleue doctrins of which the Scripture is silent But authoritie which is warrant enough to beleue is a formal cause of beleef Laude also sec 16. p. 102. The key that lets men into the Scriptures euen to this The key knowledg of them That they are the word of God is the tradition of the Church And p. 107. The testimonie of the Church is a subseruient cause to lead to knowledg of the author of Scriptures And what is the key of beleef but a formal cause of beleef or what subseruient cause of beleef can testimonie be but a formal cause Hooker also l. 2. § 7. granteth that the authoritie of the Church is the key which openeth the dore into The dore the knowledg of Scripture And Poâ—ter sec 5. p. 6. The testimonie of the present Church is the key or dore which lets men into the knowledg of diuine misteries And what is the key or dore in matters of beleef but some formal cause of beleuing them For as I said before what cause of beleef can testimonie or authoritie be but formal Wherfore if not in words in effect and deed they grant the testimonie or authoritie of the Church to be a formal cause of faith Ad in vaine they denie the name when they grant the thing For August 9. de ciuit c. vel l. 2. contr Crescon c. 2. l. 2. ad Bonif. c. 5. Caluin 2. Instit c. 2 §. 7. l. 4. c. 3. truth consisteth not in words but in things 3. Secondly they often times grant that we beleue By the Church by the testimonie of the Church and By the preaching of the Church Whitaker l. 1. de Script p. 39. We beleue by the Church by the preaching of the Church Ibid. p. 46. That we cannot beleue but by the testimonie of the Church is no question betwene vs. Contr. 2. q. 3. c. 3. p. 317. Manie beleue these Scriptures by the Church Which he repeateth p. 316. and 320. where headdeth God reuealeth by the Church as by aministerial means But in matter of beleef To By testimonie and for testimonie is al one cause beleue by or for authoritie by or for testimonie is al one kinde of cause becaus Authoritie or testimonie can be no other kinde of cause of beleef but formal nor beleef can haue anie other formal cause but Authoritie or Testimonie Wherfore the Scripture often times saieth men beleued by Ihon Baptist by the Apostles by the Prophets meaning for their testimonie or authoritie And so we say we beleue by witnesses or for their testimonie Becaus when the word Bâ— is said of Authoritie or Testimonie in respect of beleef it can signifie no other cause then For doth in the same matter to wit formal Wherfore seing the causal particle By doth signifie that Authoritie or Testimonie is some kinde of cause of beleef it must needs signifie the same kinde of cause which For in that matter doth signifie as it is al one to say we know the conclusion by the premises and for the premises but yet with this difference that By more signifieth a subordinat cause of beleef then For doth and therfore it is oftener said in the Scripture men beleued by the Apostles or by the Prophets then for them Though in other matters By may signifie a different kinde of cause then For doth And that By and For in matter of beleef signifie the same cause of beleef Whitaker tacitly granteth in that he often times denieth that we beleue by the Church or by the testimonie of the Church and saieth l. 1. de Script p. 7. What then Protestantâ— denâ—e we beleue by the testimonie of the Church Stapleton Dost not thou say that we are certain by the Church that this or that Scripture is diuine This thou saiest is that which properly is in question Did I say think put or ascribe to thee or thine anie other thing when I sought the true state of the question Behold how plainly he confesseth that the true state of the question between him and Catholiks is whether we beleue the Scripture to be diuine by the testimonie of the Church though in other places he would put a great L. 1. de script p 39. 46. difference between beleuing by the testimonie and for the testimonie of the Church And ibid. in Margine To beleue by the testimonie of the Church is the plain heresie of Papists 4. Thirdly Protestants grant the Church of God is apointed by him to be witnes of his diuine truth as I shewed before c. 5. n. 6. But a witnes is by his authoritie and testimonie a formal cause of beleuing what he witnesseth and the onely end of a witnes is to cause beleef And this confesseth Caluin in Acts c. 20. v. 21. saying Testimonie is interposed to take away al doubt that is to beleue firmely And out of that which hath been shewed in this Chapter it is euident that if not in words indeed and effect Protestants doe grant that the authoritie or testimonie of the Church is a formal cause of diuine faith and as I said before to grant the thing and denie the word or name is but follie For what doe we mean when we say the Church is a formal subordinat cause of faith then what they haue saied and granted Thus haue we proued that euen by the confession of Protestants the Church of God is infallible at lest in fundamental points of faith and also diuinely infallible by Christs absolute promise and the holie Ghosts assistance and also that her authoritiein matters of faith is a formal cause of faith though subordinat to Gods
like Protestants also who being enforced by Scripture confess that concerning men the Church susteineth truth must needs Supra c. 5. n. 3. confess that she is to be beleued of men for herself For doubtles the susteiner of truth is to be beleued for himself Besids Chillingworth c. 2. n. 25. 1â—9 and 154. granteth that Vniuersal tradition credible of itself See sup c. 10. n. 37. c. 15. â— 5. Vniuersal tradition is credible of it self and therfore fit to be rested on So that something beside Scripture is credible of itself And Laude Relat. sec 19. p. 124. saieth A man may be assured by Ecclesiastical and humane proof And p. 125. Certain it is that by humane authoritie consent and proof a man may be assured infallibly that the Scripture is the word of God The same hath Potter sec 5. p. 7. who addeth ibid. p. 6. That the testimonie of the present Church is the highest humane authoritie And is not the highest humane authoritie and that which can assure vs infallibly credible of it self As in matters known by reason some are intelligible by them selues so in matters of beleef some are credible by themselues els there wold be an endles process in such matters Beside some are witnesses without al exception and if anie be such surely the true Church of God and witnesses without al exception are credible for them selues But here we must beware of being deceaued becaus as Protestants grant to the Church no other authoritie then humane so they can grant her to be beleued for herself with no other kinde of faith then humane Wheras as the Apostles had two kinds of authorities the one humane as they were honest and vertuous men the other diuine as they were specially assisted by the holie Ghost so the true Church of God hath the same two kinds of authorities humane as it is so ancient so great so learned so vertuous a companie of men and diuine as it is specially assisted by the holie Ghost in al matters of faith And so she is to be beleued for her self both with humane and diuine faith as the Apostles were to be beleued and the humane authoritie is no doubt a great disposition to the beleef of the diuine authoritie And surely sith we must needs grant that ether the true Church of God is credible with diuine faith that she is the true Church of God for her self or that these Copies which we haue written by fallible men are credible for themselues that they are the word of God and conformable to their originals no man of iudgment can think but that rather the Church of God is so credible for herself then such copies as we haue written by fallible men For beside al other proofes these Copies nether doe nor can testifie of themselues that they are the word of God or agreable to the original writings of the Prophets or Apostles as the true Church of God both can and doth testifie of herself that she is the true Church of God and the same with that which was instituted by Christ 3. Hence it is euident that Catholiks prouing to themselues the Church by the Scripture and the Scripture by the Church commit no vicious Circle For they first proue the Church by her own diuine authoritie and likewise the Scripture by the same authoritie and they doe but confirme the authoritie of the Church by the Scripture And to heretiks who denie the true Church but admit the Scripture as did the Donatists they proue the Church by the Scripture and to other Heretiks who denie Scriptures as did the Manichees they proue the Scripture by the Church And therfore in prouing the Church and the Scripture one by the other commit no vitious Circle ether in their proof to themselues or to Heretiks For to themselues they proue the Scripture to be the word of God by authoritie of the Church as by the external and secondarie formal motiue of faith and confirme their beleef of the Church by the Scripture as by a material obiect of faith which is the word of God So that two waies they auoid a vitious Circle first becaus they first beleue the Church for her own authoritie as for a secondarie and subordinat authoritie to Gods authoritie and doe but confirme their beleef of the Church by the Scripture So that beleef of the Scripture to be Gods word dependeth necessarily in ordinarie course of the Churches authoritie but beleef of the Church to be the Church of God doth not necessarily depend vpon the testimonie of the Scripture but onely is confirmed therby Secondly becaus they proue the Church by the Scripture otherwise then they proue the Scripture by the Church For they proue the Scripture by the authoritie of the Church as by a witnes and as by the external formal motiue of faith secondarie and subordinate to Gods authoritie as the Primitiue Christians proued the Scripture by the authoritie of the Apostles and they proue the Church by the Scripture as by a material obiect of faith which is Gods word and not as by a witness but as by a testimonie of a witnes And to proue things by Gods word and by authoritie instituted by God are different kinds of proofes and shew that there is no vitious Circle If anie say that we proue the Church by the authoritie of Gods word I answer that authoritie properly is of some person and truth and veritie is in his word so we proue the Church by the truth of Scripture but the Scripture we proue by the authoritie of the Church And as for our proof also of the Church by Scripture and of the Scripture by the Church to Heretiks we commit no vitious circle becaus we proceed so with different heretiks For to such heretiks as admit Scripture but denie the Church we proue the Church by Scripture and to such as admit the Church but denie Scripture we proue Scripture by the Church 4. And hence also appeareth how falsly saied Chillingworth c. 2. n. 35. That our Churches authoritie is built lastly and wholy vpon prudentiaâ— motiues Which he repeateth again n. 70. For her authoritieis built lastly vpon Gods institution which we know by her infallible testimonie and confirme it by Scripture Falsly also he saied c. 3. n. 27. For the infallibilitie Vniuersal tradition is Gods vocal word of the Church no proof can be pretended for it but incorrupted places of Scripture For the Churches infallibilitie is built principally vpon Gods authoritie and secondarily vpon her own which is instituted by God as the Apostles infallibilitie was built secondarily vpon their own authoritie Prudential motiues are but rational motiues or dispositions to faith they are nether the principal nor subordinat formal cause of diuine faith For diuine Authoritie is the formal motiue of faith prudential motiues make knowledg or opinion not faith and at most can make the Churches authoritie to be euidently credible but cannot make it to be credited
or beleued with diuine faith EIGHTENTH CHAPTER Hovv vve are to ansvver that question VVherfore or hovv vve beleue or knovv the Church to be Infallible 1. OVT of that which hath been hitherto saied is clearly answered that question How or Wherfore we beleue or know the true Church of God to be absolutly infallible in al which she teacheth as matter of faith Laude sec 16. p. 60. saieth The tradition of the Church taken alone cannot be a sufficient proof to beleue by diuine faith that Scripture is the word of God For that which is a ful and sufficient proof is able of it self to settle the soule of man which Tradition is not alone able to doe For it may be further asked why we should beleue the Churches Tradition And if it be answered Becaus the Church is infallibly gouerned by the holie Ghost it may be demanded How that may appeare And if thâ—â— be demanded ether you must say you haue it by special Reuelation or els you must attempt to proue it by Scripture And the verie offer to proue it by Scripture is a sufficient acknoâ—ledgment that the Scripture is a higher proof then the Churches tradition which in your own ground is or may be questionable til you come thither Besids it is an inuiolable ground of reason that the Principles of anie conclusion Thus he whose words I haue related at large that I might not seem to dissemble the difficultie 2. First therfore we must note that Beleef and Knowledg are different For Beleef is a simple assent for the authoritie of the speaker Knowledg if it be not of such things as are euident of themselues as that the whole is greater then a parte and such like is discursiue inferring one thing out of an other Therfore these are different questions Wherfore we know the Church to be infallible in al matters of faith and Wherfore we beleue her to be so infallible And we wil answer to both questions differently and distinctly To the question Wherfore we beleue the Chrch to be infallible I answer that if you demand the material Gods vocal word the material obiect of faith obiect of my beleef therof it is Gods vocal word vttered to me by the Church For as is shewed before out of the Apostle Faith is of hearing and Hearing is by the vocal word of God vttered by the Church And for this vocal word of God as his testimonie the Church was beleued to be infallible before there was anie Scripture and of the aforesaied Barbarians who had no Scripture and could be so beleued though al Scripture should perish And this Luther and other Protestants before cited doe confess when they say The Church is conceaued bred by the vocal word of God Supra c. 14. â— 1. and 3. 3. And if you ask the formal obiect for whose authoritie we beleue the Church to be thus infallible I answer For the authoritie of God principally and for the authoritie of the Church which is the pillar and ground of faith subordinatly As we beleue what the Embassador saieth principally for the King who sent him and subordinatly for the authoritie of the Embassador himself as apointed by the king And as before anie Scripture was written Prophets were beleued not for anie Scripture but principally for the authoritie of God who sent them and secondarily for their own Prophetical authoritie instituted by God Wherfore we need not as Laude thinketh proue the Church to be infallible ether by special reuelation or by Scripture as Chillingworth saieth c. 3. p. 141. Becaus beside the priuat word of God which is by special reuelation and his publik written word Publik vocal word of God Videsup c. 14. n. 1. which is Scripture there is also his publik vocal word which he vttereth and speaketh by the mouth of the Church as wel as there is his written word which he wrot by Vvhitak l 3. descript p. 414. Spiritus per as Ecclesia loquitur â—ic etiam cont 1. q. 3. c. 11. cont 2. q. 4. c. 2. Quâ— ecclesiam audiunt Christum ipsum audiunt the hands of his prophets and Euangelists And Gods word by whom soeuer it is ether spoke nor written is of equal authoritie and his vocal word equally to be beleued as his written Wherfore we haue no need to proue the Church to be infallible by the Scripture as there was no need nor possibilitie by it to proue that or anie other point of faith before anie Scripture was written vnles it be against such heretiks as beleue the Scripture but beleue not the Church But Catholiks doe onely confirme their faith which before they had of the infallibilitie of the Church by Gods vocal Gods vocal word confirmed by his written word vttered by the Church by his written word of the Scripture As we vse to be confirmed in the beleef of a thing which a man doth not only say by word of mouth but also by writing 4. And moreouer it is not alwaies necessarie as laude thinks that the mean of knowing be more known then the thing known by it as when they mutually make each other known as Relatiues and the Cause and proper Effect doe For in these a Circle is not vitious As from a Father we proue a sonn and from a sonn à Father From Rational Risible and from Risible Rational from the suns rising the Daie and from the Daie the suns rising And as Whitaker saieth contr 1. q. 3. c. 3. of the old and new Testament Something 's mutually proue each other The old and new Testament doe mutually confirme one the other In other matters this mutual confirmation would not auaile but in this it auaileth much For none is so fit a witnes of God and of his word as God in his word And contro 2. q. 5. c. 18. As the cause doth bring forth and shew the effect so the effect in like manner doth illustrat the cause Ibid. c. 9. Relatiues are not before or after one the other And lib. 3. contra Dureum sec 3. doth this seem ridiculous to the to seek the word out of the word White in his Defense p. 301. It is no more a Circle in vs to proue our Spirit by the Scripture and again to be assured of the Scripture by the Spirit then it is in discours to goe too and and fro between causes and effects The like he hath in his way p. 117. Field in his Appendice part 2. p. 16. That the cause may be proued by the effect and the effect by the cause and that such a kinde of argumentation is not a circulation but a demonstratiue regress that two causes may becauses ether of other we make no question Caluin 1. Instit c. 9. § 3. God hath ioyned together the certaintie of his word and Spirit with a mutual knot The samesay I of Gods vocal word vttered by the Church and his written word signed by the Euangelists that
onely true Church as Laude saieth sec 20 p. 128 and Some Church signieth some indeterminate partilar Church Therfore The Church cannot be said to be infallible in fundamentals if onely Some Church be so For Some Church is not The Church 6. Nether can this necessarie authoritie setled by God for mankinde be said to be in Scripture becaus Scripture was nether in al times for there was none before Moises nor in al places for in S. Ireneyes time there were manie good Christians See infrâ— c. 20. who had no Scripture nor can serue immediatly by it self for al kinds of men For scripture can not immediatly by it self teach those who are blinde or cannot read as moâ—st men cannot And to teach of guide them by the reading of men who are fallible were no infallible guidance Besides Protestants confess that Scripture is hard to be vnderstood and needeth Interpreters euen in matters of faith in which See infral 2 c. 4. sec 2. and c. 2. sec 2 matters it cannot be a sufficient guide For as Chillingworth c. 1. n. 6. saieth of a Rule Both these Properties are required to be a perfect rule both to be so compleat as to need no addition and to be so euident as to need no Interpretation so I say of a Guide or authoritie to direct if it be not euident it is no sufficient guide or authoritie becaus without euidencie it cannot serue for sure direction Moreouer Scripture cannot but improperly be called a guide but as a Rule may be called a Guide or a Iudge For properly a Guide or Iudge is a liuing person who may direct by Rule But of this we shal speak more hereafter 7. And out of al which hath been said in this Chapter appeareth how wrongfully Laude said first that we must know the Church to be infallible ether by special reuealation or by Scripture For there is a third way to wit by Gods vocal word vttered by the Church it self as when the Apostles liued we might haue known them to be infallible by their own testimonie which was Gods vocal word Secondly he falsly saieth that to proue the Church by the Scripture is a sufficient acknowledgment that the Scripture is of a higher proof For Christ and the Apostles proued their doctrin out of the old testament and yet the old testament was not a higher proof then their doctrin And in like sorte the Fathers proued Scripture by the Church and as I said before Relatiues and such as mutually and equally make each other known are of equal proof each to other Thirdly how wrongly he saied that it is an inuiolable ground of reason that the principles of anie conclusion must be of more credit then the conclusion it self For this is not true in Relatiues and such others as are equally known and equally infer one the other And that principle is true onely in such Consequents as are not as wel known as the Antecedents but known onely for the Antecedents as most consequents are as may appeare out of that Maxime of which that principle dependeth to wit Propter quod vnumquodque tale illud magis Which is plainly meant of that which is the sole cause of the knowlegd of an other But Scripture is nether the sole cause nor yet the first cause of our assurance of the true Church but the first cause is principally Gods authoritie and secondarily the Churches diuine authoritie instituted by him as it was in his Apostles and also Gods vocal testimonie or word vttered by his Church and Gods written testimonie signed in Scripture by his diuine Scribes is but a confirmation of our assurance of his true Church And God may wel confirme by writing what he hath spoken and yet be equally credited by what he speaketh as by what he writeth becaus his veracitie is infinit and equally infallible in both And hitherto we haue sufficiently proued that Gods true Church which soeuer she is wanteth not ether Infallibilitie or necessitie required to be the sufficient external Proposer of faith apointed by God it resteth that we shew that she wanteth nether sufficient Claritie nor vniuersalitie requisite to be that external Proposer and to shew which proposal of hers is sufficient and requisit for to cause faith NINETENTH CHAPTER That the true Church of God doth clearly and vniuersally propose al points of faith 1. IN the third Chapter we shewed that foure conditions are necessarie to the al sufficient external Proposer of al points of faith to wit Infallibilitie Necessitie Claritie and Vniuersalitie and hitherto we haue proued that the true Church of God hath the two first conditions It remaineth that we also shew that she hath also the two latter to wit Claritie in clearly proposing what is to be beleued and Vniuersalitie in proposing it to al who are capable of external proposal and in al times and places where faith is to be proposed 2 And for Claritie it is euident that the Church of God clearly enough proposeth to her Children and to others what they are to beleue and if anie doubt arise of her meaning she calleth General Councels and expresseth it more clearly as was seen in the Councel of Nice ad others And as for Vniuersalitie of time and place it is euident that it agreeth to Gods true Church becaus she hath been in al times and is dispersed al the world ouer whersoeuer faith is preached And the like is of her proposing al points of faith 3. And finally that in the true Church is lawful sending to preach points of faith is vndoubted And so haue we proued that the true Church of God which soeuer she is hath al the conditions requisit to the al or absolute sufficient external proposer of al points of diuine faith which God wil haue men to beleue and consequently is that al sufficient external proposer of faith which we ought to seek TWENTITH CHAPTER VVhich is a sufficient proposal of the Church for points of faith 1. A sufficient proposal of the Church for points of faith is when she clearly declareth a matter to be of faith or when she condemneth the contrarie as heresie and excludeth out of her communion al obstinat or pertinacious mainteiners of it See D. Stapleton l. 1. de Principijs c. 11. But onely Excommunication doth not conuince that the Church accounteth it Heresie becaus she may excommunicate euen for holding doctrines that are temerarious or scandalous THE SECOND BOOK OF THE EXTERNAL PROPOSER OF POINTS OF FAITH THE PREFACE 1. ALBEIT Scripture cannot be properly called a Proposer of points of faith becaus a Proposer properly is an intellectual person as the word it self euidently sheweth and much less can it be the Proposer apointed by God as necessarie in ordinarie course to engender diuine faith becaus such a Proposer is a Preacher lawfully sent of God by hearing of whom diuine faith is engendred as is euident by the Apostle Rom. 10. and Scripture nether is a
we challeng not Ibid. § 154. you content not yourselues with a moral certaintie of things you beleue p. 113. Moral certaintie sufficient Me thinks you should require onely a moral and modest assent to them points of faith and not a diuine as you cal it and infallible faith Ibid. § 159. p. 116. God requireth of vs vnder pain of damnation onely to beleue the verities therin Scripture conteined and not the diuine authoritie of the books wherin Not diuine authoritie of Scripture they are conteined We haue I beleue as great reason to beleue there was such a man as Henrie the Eight King of England as that Iesus Christ suffered vnder Pontius Pilat C 6. § 3. p. 325. That there is required of vs a As great reason for beleef of K. Hen. as of Christ. knowledg of them points of faith and an adherence to them as certain as that of sense or science that such a certaintie is required of vs vnder pain of damnation this I haue demonstrated to be a great error and of dangerous and pernicious consequence § 5. p. 327. Men may talke their pleasure of an absolute and most infallible certaintie but did they generally beleue that obedience to Christ were the onely way to present and eternal felicitie but as much as Caesars Commentaries or the historie of Salust I beleue the liues of most men Papists and Protestants would be better then they are And therfore it followes from your own reason that faith which is not a most certain and infallible knowledg may be true and sauing faith C. 7. § 7. p. 389. In requiring that this faith should be diuine and Dangerous that faith must be infallible infallible you cast your Credents into infinit perplexitie Erasmus on the 2. and 27. of Mathew There is no fear that al the authoritie of the Scripture shold fall if anie error were found in it Luther called the Scripture The books of Heretiks Protestants in Colloq Ratisbon sess 11. say that we must distinguish betwene the faith wherwith we beleue points necessarie to saluation and historical faith wherwith we beleue the Scripture to be the word of God And historical faith is not diuine faith vnles they wil make manie kinds of diuine faith And they add that there is not equal reason of beleuing that scripture is Gods word and that Christ is Incarnate And Whitaker l. 1. de Script p. 88. who haue no other faith but historical doe no more beleue Christ then the Diuels Moulins in his Bucler sec 4. p. 13. Properly speaking articles Scripture no doctrin of Christian religion of faith are doctrins of Christian religion and in this sense the Canon of Canonical books is no article of faith So that the Canon of Scripture is no doctrin of Christian religion White in his Defense c. 30. p. 282. scripture ether by the immediate light Scripture known by â—ight of nature of Gods spirit or by the light of nature may be known to be Gods word And if by the light of nature without diuine faith Hooker l. 3. § 8. we know by reason that the scripture is the word of God By reason Whitaker aforsaid l. 1. de Script p. 25. The most diuine character of the scripture doth most plainly tel al that ether haue receaued the Holie Ghost or are imbued with mean understanding By mean vnderstanding that it came from God And if mean vnderstanding suffice without the Holie Ghost there need no diuine faith to beleue it And ibid. p. 122. Who hath reason and wil vse it may therby most easily discern these diuine books from mens books P. 150. Scriptures By onelie reading may be known by onely reading And in praefat ad Staplet The Scripture giueth so clear a testimonie of its diuiniâ— tie that who read it with a smal attention and iudgment cannot be ignorant that it is diuine And p. 77. vnles he be doltish l. 2. p. 235. Scriptures may be acknowledged and held without the testimonie of the Spirit NINTH CHAPTER VVhether translated Scripture be authentical FIRST SECTION Protestants sometimes affirme WHite in his Way to the Church p. 12. I say the Scripture translated into English Translated Scripture rule of faith is the Rule of faith whervpon I relying haue not a humane but a diuine authoritie And p. 27. The doctrin conteined in the Scripture is a light and so abideth into what language soeuer it be translated and therfore the children of light know it and discern it Ibid. So the vnlearned man is secured not vpon the Churches credit and authoritie but by the ministerie which teacheth him he is directed to the light itself And this Ministerie we haue and vse for our Translations but they that obey it know the Translation and so proportionably The matter of Scripture sheweth it self al articles of faith to be infallible becaus the matter therof appeares to them as a candle in a lantern shewing it self in its own light And in his table before his book The Scriptures translated into English are the Rule of faith And in his Defense of his Way c. 28. p. 266. Though it be granted that the Ministerie of men and rules of art and knowledg of tonges be al subiect to error yet doth it not follow that by them we cannot obtein infallible assurance of our translations Chillingworth c. 2. § 32. we beleue the Scripture not finally Matter of Scripture known by it self and for itself but for the matter conteined in it And so al Protestants should say seing when they exhort the common people to the reading of their translated Bibles they bear them in hand that it is the word of God and that their translation of the word of God is authentical and worthie to be beleued for it self Besids they did the people beleue what they teach them becaus it is in their Bibles and so make their Bibles the rule and ground of their peoples faith And no other infallible rule of faith their common people can pretend to haue Moreouer if they make the matter or true sense of Scripture the rule of faith as commonly they doe they cannot denie but Scripture truly translated hath the same matter which the original hath SECOND SECTION Sometimes denie it WHitaker Contro 1. q. 2. c. 7. We make no edition of Scripture authentical but the Hebrew in the old and the Greek in the New Testament Translations if No translation authentical they agree we allow them if they differ we reiect them Ibid. c. 8. We doe doe not say that we must stand to our translations as authentical of themselues but we appeal to the fountaines onely as truly authentical C. 9. Authentical Scripture must come imediatly from the Holie Ghost C. 10. onely authentical is Canonical Et ibid. q. 5. c. 9. The ignorance of the original toungs Hebrew and Greek hath caused manie errors And thus al Protestants should say becaus
P. 76. Faith is of scriptures heard P. 108. Faith is begotten not of testimonie of the Church but onely out of scripture P. 122. The The â—â—elie sufficient means scripture is the most strong the most effectual I ad also now the onely sufficient means to beleue P. 130. Our faith relieth vpon the scriptures alone P. 165. scriptures are the foundations of our faith P. 167. The scripture is the beginning of beleuing The same he hath p. 168. P. 173. The formal cause of our Scripture the formal cause of beleef faith is not the voice of the Church but Gods word reuealed in the scriptures Potter sec 5 p. 8. The principal motiue and last obiect of beleif is the diuine last obiect authoritie of the scripture it self P. 10. The cheif principle ground on which faith rests and for which it firmely The ground of faith assents vnto those truths which the Church propounds is the diuine reuelation made in scripture sec 7. p. 95. The creed conteines onely the material The formal obiect obiect of faith The scripture is further the formal obiect of faith or the motiue and ground whervpon faith is grounded being both the obiectâ—m quod in respect of things therin reuealed and obiectum Obiectum quod and quâ— quo in respect of that diuine veritie and authoritie which reueals them Laude Relat. sec 16. p. 84. Tradition of the present Church is the first moral motiue to beleue but the beleif it self That the scripture is the word of God rests vpon the scripture P. 89. Doe Faith resolued into Scripture you grant as you ought to doe that we resolue our faith into scripture as the ground and we wil neuer denie that Tradition is the key that letts vs in Sec. 18. p. 123. The Prophets testimonie was diuine into which namely their writings the Iewes did resolue their faith Hooker l. 2. § 7. Scripture is The ground of al beleef the ground of al beleif Chillingworth c. 3. § 32. p. 149. I can not know anie doctrin to be a diuine and supernatural truthe but becaus the scripture saies so And where saies it that it is the word of God Vttermost formal cause of faith Morton to 2. Apol. l. 1. c. 37. Papists are forced against their wil to grant that thè vttermost formal cause of Catholik faith doth not consist in the authoritie of the Church but in scripture Ib. The diuine authoritie of the scripture by vertue of the holie Ghost doth imprint in the minds of the hearers the last formal Last formal cause cause of faith And l 5. c. 11. scripture is to the faithâ—ul the supreme Iudge euen concerning vs in which our consciences doe last rest In his Appeal l. Last rest and resolution 3. c 15. sec 5. In the doctrin of scripture mens consciences may take their last rest and resolution White in his Table before his way The last resolution of our faith is into the authoritie of the scripture And yet they cannot denie but the authoritie of the Scripture is create For they were written by men And so the formal cause the vttermost formal cause the last formal cause the last rest Create authoritie the vttermost formal cause of Protest faith the last resolution of their faith is create authoritie and not Prima veritas it self as they pretend and condemn Catholiks for onely saying that the create authoritie of the true formal cause but say not as Protestants say of Scripture the vttermost the last formal cause the last resolution of our faith Besids Protestants make Protestants inferences out of humane Principles the last resolution of their faith their own Inferences partly out of some humane principle to be equal and equiualent vnto express Scripture or word of God as is shewed before c. 3 sec 2. and so make their own Inferences and those partly out of humane Principles the formal cause the vttermost the last formal cause that into which their faith is last resolued and withal teach that L. 1. c. 18 n. 1. the Inference cannot be more certain then the Principle out of which it is inferred How then can their faith haue more certaintie then humane as Chillingworth confessed c. 8. sec 2. SECOND SECTION Sometimes denie it CHillingworth c. 2. n. 159. p. 116. For other reasons I conceaue this doctrin that Scripture is the rule of faith Not fundamental becaus if a man should beleue Christian religion Scripture no fâ—ndamental doctrin wholy and entirely and liue according to it such a man though he should not know or not beleue the Scripture to be a rule of faith no nor to be the word of God my opinion is he may be saued so that the books of Scripture are not so much the obiects of our faith as the instruments of conueying it to our vnderstanding and not so much of the being of Christian doctrin as requisit to the welbeing of it Ireneus tels vs of some barbarous nations that beleued the doctrin of Christ and yet beleued not the Scripture to be the word of God For they neuer heard of it and faith comes of hearing God requiring of vs vnder pain of damnation onely Not damnabâ—e not to beâ—eue the Scripture to beleue the verities therin conteined and not the diuine authoritie of the books wherin they are conteined Ibid. n. 32. p. 65. Which Scripture we beleue not finally and for it self but for the matter conteined in it We Scripture not last obâ—â—st of faith are to beleue it not as the last obiect of out faith but as the means of it Ibid. Natural reason built on principles common Natural â—eason last â—eâ—oluâ—◠〈◊〉 of â—rotest faith to al men is the last resolution of our faith of the Scripture into which the Churches authoritie is but the first inducement n. 115. p. 96. By you as wel as by Protestants al is finally resolued into reason Baro in his Apologie pro disput de obiecto fidei p. 48. Laicks beleue the doctrin which is proposed to them to be beleued to be in the Protest beleue Scripture but with 〈…〉 ne faith Scripture onely with humane faith Behold first That Scripture is the rule of faith is no fundamental doctrin Secondly one may be saued though the beleue not the Scripture to be the word of God Thirdly books of Scripture are not so much obiects of our faith as instruments therof Fourthly are not so much of the being of Christian faith as of the wel being of it Fiftly God requires not vnder pain of damnation to beleue the diuine authoritie of Scripture Sixtly we beleue not the Scripture finally and for it self Seauently It is not the last obiect of faith Eightly natural reason is the last resolution of Protestants faith of the Scripture Ninthly Laicks beleue their doctrin to be in the Scripture but with humane faith And can that which is such be the formal
could see them to be Apostles of themselues but becaus they gaue to others the light of faith and pietie And thus much for this first proof that Scripture cannot sufficiently shew it self to be the word of God for want of the material obiect of diuine faith which is Gods saying that it is his word For God no where saieth in Scripture that Scripture is his word and what God faieth diuine faith cannot beleue 7. An other argument to the same purpose may be taken from the Scriptures not hauing in it self the formal obiect of faith which is authoritie For albeit Scripture in it self contein most diuine and infallible veritie yet taken by it self as it is such words and such sense it hath not proper authoritie becaus Authoritie is in an Author and an Author is a Rational or intellectual Person saying something which for his authoritie or credit we beleue And Veritie which we beleue is in his speech Authoritie or Veracitie for which we beleue is in his person Likewise we cannot beleue but for some witnes who testifieth that which we are to beleue and a witnes doubtles is an intellectual person distinct from his testimonie or that which he witnesseth And Scripture is no intellectual person but the testimonie of God who is supreme witnes of it Wherfore it is no formal cause of our beleef as a witnes is but onely the material obiect which is to be beleued Besids the Character or stile of Scripture or the doctrin or maiestie therof being not authoritie or veracitie they cannot cause formal faith or beleif but at most opinion or knowledg For as we haue often repeated out of S. Austin That we beleue we owe to Authoritie Which is so euident as Whitaker l. 3 de Scriptura p. 408. saieth Faith relieth vpon authoritie Authoritie is the foundation of faith And p. 509. To beleue some Authoritie is necessarie Wherfore wel wrote Stapleton Contro 3. q. 1. art 2. The word of God it self written or vnwritten is not of it self and properly à mean to beleue but is that which is beleued Is not the formal obiect of faith or anie parte therof but is the material obiect For the word speaketh not but is heard by the voice of God or of the Church speaking and faith is of hearing the word of God And therfore properly Scripturam credimus non Scripturae And in like manner Potter sec 7. p. 95. saieth The Creed conteines onely the material obiect of faith not the formal And yet it conteines the words and sense of Scripture Wherfore the Scripture it self containes not the formal obiect of faith but onely the material which is diuine veritie And when graue Authors attribute authoritie to Scripture ether they take authoritie for veritie or credibilitie to be beleued or they speak figuratiuely attribâ—ting by prosopopeia a person to the Scripture as is vsual when men speak of writings to speak of them as if they were the writers So we say the Scripture speaketh saieth teacheth and such like meaning God by the Scripture doth so Or els they take not Scripture by it self but with the writer therof And so no doubt it hath authoritie not in it self but adioined to it to wit as it is the Scripture of God or word of God But this authoritie is the increate authoritie of God himself beside which we must haue in ordinarie course à create authoritie for to beleue with diuine faith and this create authoritie is not in the Scripture but in the Church and much less is in the Scripture Prima vâ—ritas as Whitaker saieth l. 3. de Scripturâ p. 485. 509. For so it shold not be a made or created thing but God himself And hence appeareth that Protestants beleuing what they beleue merely becaus they finde â—up c. 11. â—ect 1. it in Scripture and making Scripture their formal and vttermost cause of their beleif haue no formal faith becaus they beleue not for anie formal authoritie or veracitie but for seeming veritie of the things which they finde in Scripture which seeming veritie may cause opinion but not true and formal faith But to admit that the original hand writings of the Prophets and Apostles known to be theirs had authoritie sufficient to beget diuine faith how can mere copies of their writings and those made by fallible men as al Bibles now extant are made by ordinarie writers or Printers haue Copies of authentical writings are not authentical of themselues such authoritie vnles they be signed or testified by some authentical person that they are agreable to the Originals Are mere Copies of neuer so authentical writings made by priuate men but not testified by anie of sufficient credit that they are agreable to the originals of sufficient credit to beget humane vndoubted beleif in anie court of Iustice And wil we haue mere copies of the Prophets or Apostles writings made by fallible and ordinarie men to be of themselues alone of sufficient credit to beget diuine faith can not vndoubted humane faith be gotten by such mere copies not attested by anie authentical person and can vndoubted diuine faith becaused by such copies made by fallible men cannot reasonably be accouÌ„ted infallible vnles they be attested by some infallible person and it is the attestation of the infallible person which maketh them infallibly credible to vs. Wherfore out of that which I haue hitherto said I argue Vvhat is onely the material obiect of faith is not the formal thus in forme What is onely thematerial obiect of faith or is onely beleued cannot be also the formal obiect of faith and the reason of beleuing That which is the word of God written or vnwritten is onely the material obiect of faith and what is beleued Therfore it can not be also the formal obiect and reason of beleuing The Maior is euident The Minor I proue becaus the word of God taken by it self hath no formal authoritie And onely formal authoritie is the formal obiect of faith and reason of beleuing And here is the difference betwixt the word of God and the Prophets Apostles and Church of God that these haue formal diuine authoritie in themselues and therfore are not onely material obiects of faith and beleued to be Prophets Apostles Difference between Scripture and Church and Church of God but also are formal external reasons of beleuing what they say themselues are or what els they propose 8. A third proof that Scripture of it self cannot sufficiently propose it self to be the word of God is becaus the authoritie of the true Church is the formal external cause for which in ordinarie course the Scripture is beleued with diuine faith to be the word of God This is euident out of those places in Scripture which we cited before l. 1. c. 11. and 12. which not onely proue the necessitie of the Churches preaching the Scripture to be Gods word for to be beleued as such but also proue the verie authoritie
of the Church to be necessarie for to beleue it For faith is said to be of hearing of the word of God lawfully preached The Church is called the pillar and ground of truth she is accounted Gods witnes her voice Christs voice her Pastors are accounted Gods Legats and apointed by God to keep men constant in faith Al which doe shew not onely that the Churches preaching is necessarie to beleue but that also her authoritie or testimonie is necessarie And al authoritie or testimonie is a formal cause of beleif becaus That we beleue Chilling c. 1. n. 7. we ow to authoritie And Protestants define faith to be an assent to diuine Reuelations vpon the authoritie of the Reuealer And doubtles à Reuealer is a liuing and intellectual person not a dead letter Whitaker also as I before cited Authoritie is the foundation of faith â—aith relieth vpon authoritie Herevpon S. Austin l. contra Epist Fundam c. 4. and 5. professeth that authoritie held him in the Catholik Church That Christ by miracles got authoritie and by Authoritie deserued beleef That religion can no way be rightly gotten but by authoritie And otherwhere De vtil cred c. 17. Epist 5. 6. that in the Church is the height the top the castle of authoritie and that her authoritie is most firme And l. 2. contra Crescon c. 32. I receaue not what Cyprian held of baptizing heretiks becaus the Church doth not receaue it l. 2. de Doctrin Christiana c. 8. The books of wisdom and Ecclesiasticus are to be accounted Prophetical becaus they haue been admitted into authoritie l. contra Epist Fund c. 5. Which books of the Acts I must needs beleue if I beleue the Gospel becaus both Books Catholiks authoritie doth alike commend vnto me In which places he plainly maketh the authoritie of the Catholik Church a sufficient external cause of his beleif or not beleif 9. Reason also sheweth the same For if God would haue vs to beleue his misteries it is most likelie he would apoint on earth some external authoritie subordinat to his supreme authoritie for which we should beleue them Whervpon S. Austin l. de vtilit Credendi c. 16. saied If God haue Prouidence of mankinde we ought not to despaire but that he hath apointed some authoritie on which we relying as on a sure step may mount to God And this authoritie he saieth is the authoritie of the Church But the authoritie on which we relie is doubtles some formal cause of our beleif Protestants also sometimes confess the same For thus Chillingworth c. 2. Scripture beleued for the Churches authoritie p. 96. It is vpon the authoritie of vniuersal tradition that we would haue them beleue Scripture The same he hath p. 69. Whitaker Contro 1. q. 3. c. 7. We are forced by the Churches Forced to beleue authoritie to beleue these books to be Canonical And if her authoritie can force vs to beleue it is a sufficient cause of beleef And l. 1. de Script p. 15. We may be forced by the authoritie of the Church to acknowledg the Scripture P. 72. The Church is Mistres and Guide of our faith P. 87. I am à Disciple of the Church I acknowledg her my Mother P. 46. We cannot beleue but by the testimonie of the Church as by the ordinarie meanes P. 62. We are led to beleue first by the authoritie of the Church P. 68. I most willingly grant the external iudgment of the Church to be the help and means ordained by God and necessarie for vs to engender nourish and confirme faith And l. 2. p. 234. The Authoritie of the Church is a certain introduction to beleue P. 289. Catholik authoritie commending both books Austin was necessarily induced to beleue both books The same we must doe For what book soeuer such authoritie shal commend to vs we must needs beleue it P. 320. I grant the Scripture is to be receaued becaus it is receaued of the Church Contr. 1. q. 3. c. 2. The Church is a witnes of holie writ C. 5. By tradition Tradition conuâ—nceth and authoritie of the Church it may be conuinced which books be Canonical C. 9. what other doe al those Fathers proue then that Scripture is to be receaued becaus it was alwaies receaued of the Church And doth not Becaus giue a cause of beleif And Hooker Laude Potter cited l. 1. c. 14. grant that the testimonie of the present Church is the key or dore that lets men into the Scripture Laude Relat sec 16. p. 102. euen to this knowledg of them that they are the word of God And Spalatensis and Chillingworth c. 10. libri primi add that such a book cannot be known to be Canonical Scripture but by the testimonie of the Church But authoritie testimonie iudgment are formal causes of beleif And if Protestants doe think that the authoritie Sâ—p l. 1. c. 14. of the Church is no formal cause of faith why should they teach that the Churches preaching is necessarie to faith and that the preaching teaching or proposing by priuat men would not suffice For priuat men may propose al the Church proposeth onely they cannot propose anie thing with such authoritie 10. And hence appeareth euidently that the true Church and her authoritie must alwaies in ordinarie course be beleued before Scripture becaus her authoritie is the formal external cause of the beleif of the Scripture And also that falsly wrote Whitaker l. 2. de Scrip. p. 235. The Church hath no authoritie in matters of faith Ibid. p. 228. The testimonie of the Church is no cause of faith And l. p. 122. The So Laude Relat. sec 1. p. 117. Taude sec 16. p. 106. Scripture is now the onely sufficient meaÌ„s to beleue And Contr. 2. q. 5. c. 18. Faith doth not depend vpon the authoritie of the Church And ibid. c. 20. The Scripture is more manifest then the Church And Chillingworth c. 2. p. 57. we say euerie man is to chuse his religion first and then his Church For beside what we haue proued Whitaker himself hath granted That the authoritie of the Church is an introduction to faith That we are first led to beleue by her authoritie and that her So laude sec 16. p. 89. Hooker l. 2. §. 7. Potter sect 5. testimonie is the ordinarie and necessarie means to engender faith That her authoritie causeth faith and therfore her authoritie must first of al be beleued becaus it is an introduction à first leader à necessarie means to ingender faith or as others say the key or dore to faith 1â— And out of that which hath been said in this Chapter is easily solued that question why is tradition Vvhy Traditionerodible of it self aâ—d not Scripture of itself Credible and not Scripture I answer That if we speak of tradition materially that is of the doctrin which we haue by tradition that is no more credible of itself then is the doctrin which we
Blasphemous And Confessed by Protestants diuers Protestants confess this to be a point of faith For the Bohemian confession professeth to beleue art 17. That our Ladie was a Virgin before and after her childbirth Protestants in Colloq Ratisb sess 10. p. 318. Who denies it her perpetual Virginitie is an Heretik Zuinglius serm de B. Virgine Maria to 1. fol. 350. I beleue with firme and vndoubted minde the pure chaste and vnspotted Virgin brought forth Christ yet so as without anie spot of Chastitie she remained a Chaste Virgin for euer Luther l. de votis to 2. fol. 272. If anie denie Marie vas à Virgin he is damned Beza in his confession of faith c. 3. sec 3. professeth that she was a Virgin after her Childbirth And why put he it into his confession of faith if he beleued it not to be a point of faith Whitaker also Contro 1. q. 6. c. 9. dares not denie it plainly For being pressed with this argument he saieth It belongeth not to me to dispute of the perpetual Virginitie of Marie Feild l. 3. of the Church c. 30. If these were the opinions of â—ouinian That Marie ceased to be a Virgin when she had born Christ and that al sinns are equal we condemn them and his error therin as much as the Romanists doe Nether can Protestants denie it if they wil obserue the definition of Heresie which sometimes they giue to wit Error against the doctrin of the Church For Beza de puniendis Haeret. p. 150. Moulins l. 1. cont Peron c. 7. Potter sect 2. p. 55 See sup l. 〈◊〉 10. that the perpetual Virginitie of our B Ladie is the doctrin of the Church is euident by the aforesaid Fathers Greek and Latin in the East West and South Nether haue they anie reason to denie it besides their own error That nothing is of faith but what is expresly in Scripture or may be euidently deduced of it Now that this is nether expressed nor euidently collected ouâ— of Scripture granteth Perkins Cathol Refut Contro 7. c. 1. I finde not in holie Scripture that Marie remained alwaies a Virgin and died a Virgin And al Protestants must grant becaus most of them denie it to be a point of faith as Beza Apologia altera contra Saintem p. 355. Academia Nemausiensis contra Iesuit Tornan p. 566. Feild l 4. de Eccles p. 240. Riuet Contro tract 1. 1. sec 20. Iunius Contro 1. l. 4. c. 9 To this point of faith I ad the question of Schisme which as Plessie cited supra c. 5. sec 2. confessed cannot be decided by Scripture becaus it is a matter of fact of which the Scripture speaketh not And yet schisme is as necessarie to be decided as heresie becaus that is as wel damnable as this 4. As for the Fathers they so plainly and directly say there are traditions not written as for breuities sake I wil omit their words and relate the confessions of Protestants Whitaker Contro 1. q. 6. c. vlt. p. 415. I confess the Fathers speak much of traditions The Fathers were sometimes deceaued we grant that the Fathers defended traditions Ibid. c. 12. I grant that Ireneus appealed from Scripture to Apostolical traditions So Perkins it is clear he was deceaued with traditions P. 389. Eusebius his testimonie for traditions is plain enough but no way to be admitted Ibid. It is clear that Basil was too much addicted to traditions Ibid. Damascen was too much giuen to traditions P. 391. Chrysostomus saying for tradition is Morton Appeal p. 315 vnaduised and vnworthie of so great a Father I doe not acknowledg this his tradition Ibid. Epiphanius was too much delighted with traditions He allowes indeed Apostolical Seultettom 2. c. 19. 20. traditions P. 392. Let vs not regard what Cyprian saieth of tradition P. 393. Al is not to be admitted which Ambrose saieth of traditions Ibid. Ether Austin speaketh of vnnecessarie traditions or he contradicteth himself P. 394. Innocentius Primus erred in his traditions Thus he Kemnitius 1. parte Exam. tit de Traditionibus p. 140. Excellent men in the Church besids Scripture gaue too much to traditions P. 141. The admiring of traditions not written drew manie good and excellent men in the Church from the holsome rule of faith And that was done in the first and best times of the Church soone after the Apostles traditions beg an to be thrust vpon the Church This opinion remained and stuck in their successors as in Clement P. 142. Euen good men in the Church were deceaued by too great esteem of not-written traditions P. 143. Admiration of not-written traditions deceaued good and great men in the Church Euen in the best times of the Primitiue Church admiration of not-written traditions could draw most excellent men from the rule of faith Reinolds thesi 1. Basil and Epiphanius assaying al sorts of helps against Heretiks wil haue certain things to be conteined in traditions wherto by the iudgment of the Scripture itself there must be no less credit giuen then to Scripture Perkins in his problem c. de Tradit some Fathers inclining to heretiks did embrace traditions not-written And he reakoneth S. Iustin S. Ireney Clement Alexandrin Eusebius Tertullian And ibid. saieth The Fathers oftentimes speak contradictions about tradition 5. Surely the Fathers testimonies for necessarie traditions must needs be euident which haue forced thes learned and earnest Protestants to confess that the Fathers auouch such kinde of traditions as they reiect wheras no one learned Catholik euer granted that the Fathers reiected such kinde of traditions as they defend Nether can Protestants produce one testimonie of anie Father which expresly or directly denieth such traditions But Protestants infer it out of some Father speeches of the perfection of Scripture and of its conteining al things necessarie which inference is naught For the perfection of Scripture and its conteining al things necessarie may wel stand with traditions as we shal see hereafter 6. Nay Protestants themselues are Protostants admit some traditions forced to admit some necessarie tradition not written Brentius in Prolegomenis contra Sotum c. de traditionibus Wee grant that the tradition wherwith the holie Scripture and what is conteined in it is deliuered vnto vs by our Ancestors is certain firme and vndoubted this tradition is necessarie to vs and in al manner to be embraced Kemnitius parte 1. exam tit de Traditionibus p. 113 This tradition by which the books of the holie Scripture are giuen into our hands we reuerently receaue The Fathers where they deliuer this tradition of the books of Scripture proue it by the testimonies of the Primitiue Church Morton to 1. Apol. l. 1. c. 32. after he had rehearsed the aforsaid words of Brentius of the tradition of Scripture saieth This Ladie and as it were Goddess of al traditions Protestants reuerence more then you Papists And to 2. Apol. l. 1. c. 5. The true Canon of Scriptures we must
honor and reuerence as the Queen and plainly Goddess of traditions And l. 1. c 36. relateth the foresaid words of Brentius and alloweth them Feild of the Church l 4. c. 20. Though we reiect the vncertain and vain traditions of the Papists yet we receaue the number and names of the Authors of books diuine and Canonical as deliuered by tradition The number authors and integritie of the partes of these books of Scripture we receaue as deliuered by Integritie of Scripture beleued by Tradition tradition Bel in his Downfal art 7. p 134. We receaue this tradition that the Scripture is the word of God p. 135. And so this tradition is not excepted but virtually included in our affirmation Moulins of Traditions c. 3. and 2◠we reiect not al traditions for Scripture itself is a tradition Carleton in Consensu de Scriptura c. 9. I wil say freely what I think I think there are some Apostolical traditions euer conserued and to be conserued iu the Church For Austin said not in vain what the whole Church obserueth c. So he proued Baptisme of Infants to be an Apostolical tradition so also before him Origen From Apostolical traditiou we receaued the true Canon of Scripture and the true sense of the Canon From hence the Church doth celebrate the Lords day Canon and sense of it receaued by Tradition Aretius loco 33. calleth 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The Apostles Creed what books are Canonical which is the true exposition of scripture Item Vniuersal traditions necessarie to be obserued are the Apostles Creed which books be Canonical which is the true exposition of the chiefest places of scripture Laude Relat sec 16. p. 104. when the Fathers say we are to relie vpon scripture onely they are neuer to Note this be vnderstood with exclusion of Tradition in what case soeuer it may be had not but that the Scripture is abundantly sufficient in and to it self for al things but becaus it is deep and may be drawn into different senses and so mistaken if anie man wil presume vpon his own strenght and go single without the Church sec 11. p. 44. Some traditions I denie not true and firme and of great both authoritie and vse in the Church as being Apostolical And why is not the Churches tradition concerning Scripture one of these Ibid. As for that tradition That the books of holie Scripture are diuine I wil handle that hereafter And sec 16. cit p. 81. Against this tradition That the books of Scripture are the word of God the Church of England neuer excepted Sess 15. p. 57. It is not denied that this baptisme of infants is an apostolical tradition and therfore note to be beleued Protestants in Colloq Ratisb sess 11. Our aduersaries bring that tradition of Scripture of which there is no Controuersie at al among vs. And sess 1. We grant that Moyses books are Moyses that this is a tradition by the testimonie of the Church which could witnes that Moyses books were put into the Ark. Chillingworth c. 2. § 45. The Canon of Scripture as we receaue it is built vpon vniuersal tradition The Canon is built vpon vniuersal Tradition Vniuersal Tradition rule of Controuersies § 155. Vniuersal tradition is the Rule to iudge al Controuersies by § 114. It is vpon the authoritie of vniuersal tradition that we wold haue them beleue Scripture And though sometimes he teach that this vniuersal tradition is but humane and fallible and consequently Supra c. 2. sect 2. grant his faith of the Scripture and al that is in it is but humane and fallible as we haue seen before yet c. 3. n. 45. he auoucheth it to be as infallible as the Scripture For thus he writeth you were to proue the Church infallible not in her traditions which wee willingly grant if they be as vniuersal as the tradition of the vndoubted books of Scripture is to Vniuersal tradition as infallible a◠Scripture be as infallible as the Scripture is Ibid. § 46. If you can of anie thing make it appeare that it is tradition we wil seek no farther Hooker also l. 3 § 8. If Infidels or Atheists chance at anie time to cal it Scripture in question this giueth vs occasion to sift what reason there is wherby the testimonie of the Church concerning scripture and our own perswasion which scripture itself hath confirmed may be proued a truth infallible Lo the Churches testimonie is a truth infallible And we may rest our assurance vpon a truth infallible and such is more then an inducement to faith Brentius also in the words afore cited saieth the Churches tradition concerning Scripture is certain firme and vndoubted And Morton saieth Protestants reuerence it as it were the Goddess of traditions 7. Moreouer they grant that it is a point of faith That scripture or the Bible is the word of God and as such it is put in their Confessions of faith Nay Hooker l. 1. § 14. saieth Of Anglica art 6. Gallica art 3. Belgica art 4. things necessarie the verie chiefest is to know what books we are bound to esteem holie l. 3. § 8. The main principle whervpon our beleif of al things therin conteined is that the scriptures Protestants main Principle are Oracles of God himself Laude Relat sec 11. § 2. calleth it prime principle of faith sec 16. § 2. Great principle in Diuinitie § 6. Great principle of faith the ground and proof of whatsoeuer is of faith P. 104. Cheifest principle P. 110. Main principle of Diuinitie Chillingworth c. 2. § 11. First principle Whitaker l. 2. de Scriptura p. 218. It is most of al necessarie that the certain Canon of scriptures be vndoubted among Christians Vshers Reioinder p. 63 Of al things this is most sure and ought to be beleued that the scripture is the word of God But this most necessarie most sure this prime this great this main point of faith is no written word of God For thus Laude sec 16. p. 70. There is no place in scripture which tels vs that such books conteining such and such particulars are the Canon and infallible wil and word of God Hooker l 1. § 14. Being perswaded by other means that these Scriptures are the Oracles of God Note themselues doe then teach vs the rest l. 4. § 4. It is not the word of God which doth or possibly can assure vs that we do wel to think it is in his word White in his Way p. 48. The certaintie of the Scripture is not written indeed with letters in anie particular place or book therof And I hope it is not written with Ciphers See more of their like Confessions supra c. 5. sec 2. 8. And yet Hooker l. 5. § 21. saieth We haue no word of God but the Scripture No word of God for their main Principle Whitaker Contro 2. q. 5. c. 18. We acknowledg no other word then written what doctrin soeuer is
August serm 194. de Temp. See more infâ—a c. 24. Laude sec 11. § 11. Plessie de Eccles c. 4. Leo Epist â—om 13. See him 〈◊〉 de vnit c. 1. 3. 5. 7. 10. 11. 16. 18. 20. Fathers Regula fidei And of ordination the Councel of Trent sess 23. c. 3. saieth that by the testimonie of Scripture it is manifest that grace is giuen by ordâ—nation And sess 13. c. 1. professeth that Christ gaue his Bodie to his Apostles in plain and express words and in a most manifest sense And proueth al most al its Decrees of faith by manifest places of Scripture The same also teacheth S. Austin l. 2. de peccatorum meritis c. vlt I beleue that herein the authoritie of scriptures would be most clear if man could not be ignorant of it without loss of promised saluation And l. 2 de Doctrina Christiana c. 9. In those things which are plainly set down in scripture are found al which contein faith and manner of life In which words I note those If man that is if man could not be ignorant of it without loss of Saluation which clearly shew that he speaketh of things necessarie to be actually beleued of al men And in the second place he saieth not which contein al faith but which is necessarie to saluation and which before he had called Regula credendi And l. 3. c. 2. he saieth the Rule of faith is gathered out of the plainer places of scripture And the Rule of faith or Rule of beleif conteineth not al faith but al that is absolutly necessarie to Saluation For a Rule is not to contein but to regulate al. Regula dicta est eo quod recte ducit nec aliquem trahit D. 3. apuâ— Gratian. aliorsum 2. Nether is this contrarie to that which Fathers and Catholiks say that the Scriptures are hard or obscure First becaus to say that the Scriptures are easie for the summ of Christian faith and points by Gods apointment absolutly necessarie to be beleued explicitly of al is not to say absolutly that the Scriptures are easie but onely that they are easie in some parte and that a smal one too Secondly becaus a way may be said dangerous if in some parte it be so though not in al partes so the Scripture may be said hard and obscure if in some parte it be such Thirdly becaus though the Scripture may be easie to be vnderstood yet it may be hard to be infallibly sure that we rightly vnderstand it without the assurance of the Church THREE AND TWENTITH CHAPTER That the Scripture is necessarie to the better being of Christian faith 1. THat Scripture is necessarie to the better being of Christian faith is euident both by what the Apostle saieth 2. Tim. 3. Al scripture diuinely inspired is profitable to teach to reproue to instruct c. and also by what hath been saied in the former Chapter that it teacheth al points fundamental or absolutly necessarie to be beleued explicitly of al that it teacheth the most points of Christian faith in sending vs to the Church which teacheth them al. Besids it helpeth to remember better what we are to beleue it describeth what is the true Church and which are the Notes and giueth testimonie to her And it is a main confirmation of the true Christian faith and a great confutation of heresies contrarie to it and the onely armes proper to Christians which they haue against most heretiks For they denying the Infallibilitie of the Church Councels or Fathers and reiecting al testimonie of miracles leaue the true Christian Church no proper armes to fight against them but the Scripture which God hath made to be of so great esteem among Christians as S. Austin saieth None wil refuse Scripture who wil be accounted in anie sort a Christian And otherwhere No Christian wil goe against scripture no quiet man against the Church no man in his wits against reason And Vincentius Lyrinensis c. 39. addeth we must ether impugne older heresies only with scripture or auoid them being condemned by General Councels Moreouer it is not likelie that ether the holie Writers would haue been so careful to write or the Church to conserue the holie Scripture if it had not been thought to haue been in some sorte necessarie to Christian faith And what great necessitie soeuer some Protestants pretend that there is of Scripture Whitaker confesseth that there is no absolute necessitie of it and that some parte of Scripture helpeth though not to the being yet to the better being of faith And Chillingworth that it is not so much of the being of Christian doctrin as requisit to the wel being of it as we shewed c. 11. sec 2. which is but in other termes to say as we doe that it is but necessarie to the better being of Christian faith and religion So that indeed they make no greater necessitie of Scripture then we doe whatsoeuer they pretend in words as we shewed before that they say that the Scripture conteineth not so much as we say nor is more clear then we say it is yet becaus sometimes they pretend the contrarie we wil now answer to their obiections FOVRE AND TWENTITH CHAPTER Protestants arguments out of Scripture that it conteineth al points of faith ansvvered 1. THeir chiefest place out of Scripture that it conteineth al points of faith is 2. Tim. 3. Al scripture diuinely inspired is profitable to teach to reproue to correct to instruct in iustice that the man of God be perfect instructed to euerie good work out of which they inferr that the Scripture sufficiently teacheth al points of faith Catholiks answer First that S. Paul speaketh onely of the old Testament is as euident becaus much of the Newâ— was not then written as also becaus he saieth that Timothy had known it from his Childhood and he had not known the New Testament from his Childhood And if Protestants wil say the Old testament sufficiently teacheth al points of faith they make the New Testament needles which none of them dare say at least it were not necessarie For how can the New testament be necessarie if the old be sufficient And I think they wil not say the New Testament is not necessarie And that S. Paul speaketh of the New testament Protestants nether proue nor can proue wheras we proue plainly that he speaketh onely of the old Testament 2. Their second answer is that the Apostle saieth not that the Scripture is sufficient but onely saieth profitable And a thing may be profitable which is not sufficient Their third is that the Apostle saieth not that the Scripture is profitable to teach al things to correct al things to reproue al things to instruct in al things but simply to teach to correct to reproue to instruct so that by to euerie good work he comprehendeth not euerie particular good work but al kinds of good works as are teaching correcting reprouing instructing And so three waies they answer sufficiently
word read by a particular fallible man If anie answer that Reading to them is but à condition of their beleuing but the whole motiue is Gods word which is written I replie First that their beleif dependeth vpon this condition and how can infallible faith depend vpon à condition which is fallible Secondly that thus the word Read and not Written must be the formal cause of their beleif And so Scripture is not the formal cause of their faith For Scripture is onely the word written I ask therfore what is the external formal cause of the blinde and ignorant mens beleif of that which is in Scripture For some such external cause there must be as Whitaker l. 1. de Scrip. c. 6. p. 64. Potter and others grant not the doctrin it self For that is the material obiect of their faith and the thing which is beleued Nor the writing of it or letters of the Scripture For that they perceaue or vnderstand not Nor the Reading For that is fallible 3. If anie say that the doctrin is both the material and formal cause of their beleif becaus it is credible for itself I replie First that this Credibilitie for itself or internal light in the doctrin is feigned and refuted heretofore in that we said before c. 14. of the Scripture Secondly that assent to doctrin for itself cannot be faith becaus faith is an assent for authoritie of some that proposeth doctrin Thirdly that thus Scripture or writing is no formal cause of beleif as Protestants said before c. 11. sec 1. but meerly doctrin is that cause and that writing is but a conseruer or pointer to diuine doctrin but no cause at al of beleuing it Let them then not say that Scripture is the principal external formal cause of their beleuing what they beleue but confess that Scripture or writing of diuine doctrin serues them to no more then Reading serues the blind or ignorant who as they haue the same faith which the learned so must they haue the same external formal cause of faith which they haue but that al the formal cause of their beleuing what they finde in Scripture is the internal light of the doctrin it self and that they haue no external formal cause of their beleif of it and that writing or reading of it doth but point to the veritie or light of the doctrin as they say of the Churches testimonie of the Scripture that it doth but point at the word of God which is to destroie al formal faith which is an assent for authoritie and to become Enthusiasts and to make al Christian doctrin ridiculous to Infidels in telling them that Christians haue no external formal cause why they beleue ether the Scripture to be written by Gods inspiration or that which is in it to be Gods doctrin beside the Scripture or doctrin itself And that as the Church doth but point to the diuinitie of the Scripture but is no formal cause of our beleuing it to be diuine So the Scripture doth but point at the diuinitie of the doctrin which it conteineth but is no formal cause of beleuing it to be diuine doctrin Nether can they giue a good reason why they should say that Gods writing should be credible of be credible of itself to be Gods writing and need onely the Churches pointing to it for to beleue that it is Gods writing and that Gods doctrin should not be credible of itself to be his doctrin and need onely the Scriptures pointing to it that it is his doctrin For why should not Gods doctrin be as credible of itself to be his writing And so al external formal causing of beleif is gon and onely pointing to the obiect of beleeif is left And Protestants must not say that they beleue anie thing becaus it is in Scripture but onely pointeth to what they beleue as they say they beleue not Scripture to be the word of God becaus the Church testifieth that it is so but for it self being pointed to by the Church See Chillingworth supra c. 11. sec 2. SEAVENTENTH CHAPTER That the Scripture hath not proposed points of faith in al times vvhen faith vvas had 1. THat Scripture hath not proposed points of faith in al times when points of faith were beleued is euident For there was no Scripture til Moises and yet therewas true faith euer before since Adam Whitaker Contro 1. q. 6. c. 7. I grant that there is no Scripture ancienter then Moises books and that religion remained pure al that time without Scripture Ibid. c. 16 I grant that God from Adam to Moises kept Religion kept by tradition more then 2000. years doctrin deliuered by liuing voice that is traditions not written Item c. 7. cit Some barbarous men for a time wanted Scripture For a time doctrin may be kept entire without writing Item q. 3. c. 10. I grant there was a time when the word was not written and then was the Church Kemnice 1. parte Exam. tit de Scriptura p. 14. From the beginning of the world for 2450. yeares heauenly Moulins of Tradition c. 17. doctrin by diuine voice reuealed was proposed and from hand deliuered without Scripture diuinely inspired And ibid. p. 41. It is clear that the Apostles for some first yeares deliuered and spread Apostolik doctrin without anie writing of theirs by onely liuelie voice 2. Chillingworth c 2 n. 159. Ireneus tels vs of some barbarous Nations that beleued the doctrin of Christ and yet beleued not the Scripture to be the word of God For they neuer heard of it and faith comes of hearing 3. Dauenant de Iudice c. 5. We grant that before Moyses the word of God Before Moyses Tradition was sufficient not written and propagated to Posteritie by continual tradition was a sufficient Rule of faith Rainolds Conclus 1. God reuealed his wil without writing to Adam and from Adams time til Moises 4. And was the Church of God for 2400. years before Christ infallible in al points of faith and is she not after Christ infallible in the most fundamental point of al concerning Scripture was the tradition of the Church for al that time an infallible rule of faith and it is not now Is the Church since Christs Hebr. 7. time of worse condition then it was then or did men in that time ordinarily beleue ether without some external means or motiue which is Prophetical and miraculous or did they beleue infallibly for the tradition of the Church at that time which was fallible Whitaker l. 1. de Script p. 64. saieth We ask which is that external cause for which we must beleue For there must Some external cause infallible be some external cause seing faith is not bred in vs nor produced of the Holie Ghost without external causes vnles miraculously and is of hearing And l. 3. c. 10. p. 415. As the Doctrin and religion which we profess is heauenlie and diuine such also must be the reason and
authoritie of beleuing And ibid. c. 4. p. 392. Our faith must relie vpon an external a Chilling c. 1. n. 7. Laude sect 33 p. 2. 8 Field l. 4. c. 7. infallible means and which is an external infallible means causeth faith Potter sec 5. p. 7. The assent of diuine faith is absolutly diuine which requires an obiect and motiue so infallibly true as that it nether hath nor can possibly admit anie mixture of error or falshood And what external means had men to beleue ordinarily before there was Scripture but the Church For what external infallible cause did they beleue but for the Church or was the beleif of euerie man for those 2400. yeares Prophetical or miraculous without anie external infallible motiue or cause What motiue so infallibly true as that it could not possibly admit anie mixture of error or falshood had the ordinarie Beleuers before there was anie Scripture beside the Church EIGHTEENTH CHAPTER That Scripture hath not proposed points of faith in al places vvhere faith vvas had 1. THis is euident by the testimonie of S. Ireney who l. 3. c. 4. saieth that in his time manie Barbarous Nations beleued in Christ Augustin l. 1. de Doctr. Christ. c. 39. without letters or inck which made Whitaker Contro 1. q. 6. c. 7. to confess that some Barbarous men for a time wanted Scriptures and that for a Scripture not simply necessarie time doctrin may be conserued entire without writing and that hence is rightly concluded that Scripture is not simply necessarie And l. 1. de Script c 14. sec 4. p. 159. Those Barbarians of whome Ireney speaketh who had saluation written in their hearts were indeed true Christians though they knew not Scripture But saieth he they were not simply ignorant of the Scripture becaus they held the doctrin of the Scripture But I replie that Scripture and doctrin of Scripture are different and relatiuely opposit Moreouer the doctrin of Scripture is no Proposer to beleue but the thing proposed to be beleued And we speak of the Proposer of points of faith not of points of faith or doctrin of faith proposed Though therfore these Barbarians beleued the doctrin which is in Scripture yet they beleued not it by means of Scripture We therfore ask by what infallible external means they beleued it if not by the Church For some infallible means they must haue had to beleue in ordinarie course as Whitaker and Potter cited in the former Chapter confess and is euident And howsoeuer the doctrin or sense of the Scripture may be saied to be the Scripture becaus it is the more principal parte of Scripture yet in this question of the Proposer of points of faith it ought not to be meant by the word Scripture becaus the doctrin of Scripture is the points of faith and is that which is to be sufficiently proposed and beleued and so it is not the Proposer but the Proposed Wherfore Whitaker So also Vvhite in his Vvay p. 2â— and in his Defensep 259. loco iam citato and Contro 1. q. 3. c. 10. equiuocateth For when Catholiks argue that the Church is ancienter then Scripture becaus it was before anie Scripture Or that Scripture is not necessarie to faith becaus diuers Nations beleued without Scripture he answereth that the Church is not ancienter then the word of God None beleued without knowledg of that doctrin which is in Scripture For Scripture is Vvhitaker Contr. 2 q. 5. c. 19. Praedicatio verbum â—c iptum ratione differuns not the word of God or doctrin of God simply taken but the word or doctrin of God written Wherfore it is a Sophisme à Coniunctis ad diuisa to speak of Gods word simply when he should speak of Gods word written For Catholiks speak of the word or doctrin of God written not simply taken and confess that the word of God simply taken is ancienter then the Church and that none can beleue without this doctrin becaus it is that which is to be beleued And they ask what is the infallible external cause for which this doctrin or word of God was beleued of those Barbarians seing that could not be the letter of God or the Scripture which they had not Ether therfore they beleued the word of God and doctrin of Scripture for no external infallible cause and so they beleued miraculously and extraordinarily or they beleued it for the infallible authoritie of the Church When therfore Whitaker saieth that Scripture is the L. 1 de Scrip. c. 11. sec 1. Contr. 1. q. 6. c. 9. 14. Caluin 1 Instit c. 6. §. 2. Vide supra c. 5. sec 1. onely sufficient means to beleue ether he meaneth by Scripture the letter of Scripture or the sense if the letter those Barbarians had not nor blinde and ignorant men haue that means to beleue if the sense that is not the means to beleue but the obiect to be beleued and we ask what is the infallible external means for to beleue this sense For as Whitaker saieth l. 1. de Script p. 151. Wee seek some external means for which we beleue the Scripture And Contro 2. q. 4. c. 3. To interpret Scripture without means is Enthusiastical Anabaptistical and extraordinarie For the spirit now teacheth only by means and such as the means are such must needs be the Interpretation 2. Protestants Confessions that al things which are to be beleued are not in Scripture are related supra c. 5 sec 2. to wit That al things absolutly cannot be proued by scripture not al things simply that it is not an absolutly perfect Rule not safe to iudge by Scripture alone that scripture cannot assure vs cannot proue itself to be Gods word That Schisme cannot be decided by scripture NINTEENTH CHAPTER That Scripture doth not clearly enough propose al points of faith 1. THat Scripture doth not clearly enough propose al points of faith is euident First becaus as we haue already proued it teacheth not al points of faith immediatly and much less so clearly as is necessarie to beget diuine faith of them al Secondly becaus Scripture nowhere saieth that it teacheth al points of faith so clearly And therfore Protestants can haue no diuine faith that it teacheth al points so clearly as is necessarie to faith Thirdly becaus the Scripture itself saieth that in it are some hard and difficult things 2. Petri 3. And Acts 8. When S. Phillip had asked the Eunuch whether he vnderstood what he read in Scripture He answered And how can I vnles somes hew me and the place which he read was of the passion of Christ which is a most necessarie point of faith Whervpon Whitaker l. 2. de Scriptura p. 229. saieth The Eunuch without Philip nether beleued nor vnderstood what was sufficient to saluation And yet he was a pious man And Luke 24. Iesus beginning from Moises and al the Prophets interpreted to them in al Scriptures which were of him And what