testimony_n of_o all_o age_n from_o the_o first_o of_o christianity_n i_o say_v that_o be_v it_o be_v therefore_o plain_a and_o clear_a enough_o to_o any_o disinteressed_n judicious_a and_o conscientious_a divine_a that_o neither_o these_o council_n or_o pope_n can_v upon_o rational_a ground_n pretend_v any_o positive_a law_n of_o god_n proper_o or_o true_o such_o either_o out_o of_o scripture_n or_o out_o of_o tradition_n at_o least_o for_o such_o exemption_n of_o the_o person_n of_o clergyman_n and_o in_o temporal_a affair_n too_o from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a coercive_a power_n it_o must_v consequent_o be_v confess_v that_o unless_o we_o mean_v to_o charge_v a_o error_n on_o these_o council_n and_o pope_n we_o must_v allow_v the_o answer_n of_o such_o divine_n as_o with_o dominicus_n soto_n 4._o do_v 25._o q._n 2._o art_n 2._o hold_v against_o bellarmine_n in_o this_o matter_n to_o be_v not_o only_o full_a of_o respect_n but_o of_o reason_n also_o viz._n that_o by_o jus_o 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and_o no_o man_n that_o as_o much_o as_o pretend_v learning_n be_v now_o so_o ignorant_a as_o not_o to_o know_v that_o even_o entire_a catholic_n nation_n and_o many_o such_o too_o oppose_v very_o many_o such_o canon_n even_o of_o those_o very_a council_n which_o themselves_o esteem_v or_o allow_v as_o true_o general_n and_o oppose_v not_o the_o bare_a word_n or_o epithet_n only_a as_o our_o dispute_n now_o be_v of_o such_o word_n or_o even_o of_o bare_a epithet_n but_o the_o whole_a matter_n and_o sense_n and_o purpose_n nay_o and_o the_o very_a end_n too_o uncontroverted_o admit_v to_o have_v be_v that_o of_o such_o general_a council_n and_o the_o reason_n be_v obvious_a enough_o uz_o that_o in_o canon_n of_o reformation_n discipline_n or_o manner_n as_o it_o be_v general_o allow_v and_o certain_a the_o father_n deliver_v not_o nor_o intend_v nor_o pretend_v to_o deliver_v or_o declare_v the_o catholic_n faith_n and_o that_o in_o all_o other_o thing_n they_o be_v as_o fallible_a and_o as_o subject_a to_o error_n as_o so_o many_o other_o man_n of_o equal_a knowledge_n though_o without_o any_o of_o their_o authority_n or_o spiritual_a superiority_n 2._o because_o that_o in_o the_o very_a decree_n or_o canon_n of_o faith_n general_a council_n even_o the_o most_o true_o such_o may_v err_v in_o such_o word_n as_o be_v not_o of_o absolute_a necessity_n for_o declare_v that_o which_o be_v the_o only_a purpose_n of_o such_o canon_n for_o so_o even_a bellarmine_n himself_o teach_v l._n 2._o de_fw-la concilior_fw-la authoritate_fw-la c._n 12._o express_o and_o purposely_o and_o in_o these_o very_a word_n denique_fw-la in_o ipsis_fw-la decretis_fw-la de_fw-la fide_fw-la non_fw-la verba_fw-la sed_fw-la sensuâ—_fw-la tantum_fw-la ad_fw-la fidem_fw-la pertinet_fw-la non_fw-la enim_fw-la est_fw-la haereticum_fw-la dicere_fw-la in_fw-la canonibus_fw-la conciliorum_fw-la aliquod_fw-la verbum_fw-la esse_fw-la supervacaneum_fw-la aut_fw-la non_fw-la rectè_fw-la positum_fw-la nisi_fw-la forte_fw-fr de_fw-fr ipso_fw-la verbo_fw-la sit_fw-la decretum_fw-la formatum_fw-la ut_fw-la cum_fw-la in_o concilio_n niceno_fw-la decreverunt_fw-la recipiendam_fw-la vocem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d et_fw-fr in_o ephesino_n vocem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d where_o you_o see_v that_o he_o exempt_v only_o from_o this_o general_a rule_n the_o case_n wherein_o a_o council_n shall_v of_o purpose_n frame_v a_o decree_n or_o canon_n of_o faith_n concern_v the_o very_a use_n of_o such_o or_o such_o a_o word_n or_o epithet_n as_o the_o first_o of_o nice-did_a for_o the_o word_n bâ—mousion_n or_o consubstantial_a against_o arrius_n and_o the_o council_n of_o ephesus_n do_v for_o the_o word_n deotocon_fw-mi or_o godbearing_n against_o nestorius_n which_o can_v be_v say_v by_o bellarmine_n or_o any_o other_o in_o his_o behalf_n or_o that_o either_o any_o council_n or_o pope_n have_v ever_o yet_o do_v so_o as_o to_o or_o concern_v the_o use_n of_o the_o word_n jus_o 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king_n or_o emperor_n so_o this_o author_n plead_v this_o exemption_n also_o of_o their_o good_n to_o be_v not_o only_o congruent_a but_o necessary_a and_o therefore_o conclude_v it_o power_n in_o the_o church_n as_o a_o church_n to_o make_v a_o law_n for_o it_o whether_o prince_n will_v or_o not_o and_o we_o must_v know_v that_o his_o ground_n he_o borrow_v from_o st._n thomas_n out_o certain_o make_v use_v of_o it_o or_o derive_v a_o conclusion_n from_o it_o against_o the_o mind_n of_o st._n thomas_n that_o st._n thomas_n in_o his_o commentary_n on_o the_o 13._o of_o the_o roman_n where_o he_o have_v it_o intend_v no_o more_o by_o it_o but_o to_o prove_v the_o natural_a equity_n of_o clerk_n be_v free_a by_o the_o privilege_n of_o prince_n from_o pay_v tribut_n but_o express_o deny_v a_o necessity_n for_o such_o freedom_n that_o this_o to_o be_v the_o mind_n and_o word_n of_o st._n thomas_n appear_v plain_o out_o of_o the_o testimony_n of_o franciscus_n victoria_n relect._n 1._o de_fw-fr potest_fw-la eccles._n sect_n 7._o prop._n 2._o where_o he_o write_v thus_o clerici_fw-la sunt_fw-la exempti_fw-la a_o tributis_fw-la non_fw-la jure_fw-la divino_fw-la sed_fw-la priâ—ulegio_fw-la principuâ—_n hoc_fw-la express_v dicit_fw-la d._n thomas_n super_fw-la illum_fw-la locum_fw-la roman_n 13._o ideo_fw-la enim_fw-la &_o tributa_fw-la praestatis_fw-la et_fw-la dicit_fw-la hanc_fw-la exemptionem_fw-la habere_fw-la equitatem_fw-la quamâ—â—â—_n non_fw-la autem_fw-la necessitatem_fw-la that_o final_o however_o this_o be_v certain_o true_a yet_o soto_n infer_v out_o of_o that_o reason_n of_o st._n thomas_n not_o a_o congruency_n but_o a_o necessity_n for_o as_o we_o have_v see_v before_o thus_o he_o discourse_v whereas_o tribut_n custom_n and_o other_o public_a tax_n be_v pay_v to_o king_n for_o their_o maintenance_n and_o as_o a_o reward_n or_o satisfaction_n for_o the_o labour_n they_o undergo_v in_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n and_o whereas_o 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those_o canon_n authentic_a or_o indubitable_a canon_n of_o the_o apostle_n as_o this_o learned_a man_n himself_o know_v very_o well_o they_o be_v not_o make_v very_o much_o less_o for_o his_o exemption_n of_o the_o good_n of_o ecclesiastic_n etc._n etc._n from_o such_o a_o right_a in_o such_o profane_a person_n for_o as_o this_o canon_n attribute_n not_o the_o title_n of_o res_fw-la dominicae_fw-la to_o all_o the_o good_n whatsoever_o possess_v by_o clerk_n be_v it_o do_v not_o to_o the_o bishop_n own_o proper_a good_n but_o to_o those_o only_o which_o be_v in_o common_a to_o all_o the_o church_n or_o as_o well_o to_o other_o priest_n and_o minister_n as_o to_o the_o bishop_n whereof_o the_o text_n itself_o which_o i_o give_v here_o be_v proof_n sint_fw-la autem_fw-la manifestae_fw-la res_fw-la propriae_fw-la episcopi_fw-la si_fw-la tamen_fw-la habet_fw-la proprias_fw-la et_fw-la manifestae_fw-la dominicae_fw-la ut_fw-la potestatem_fw-la habeat_fw-la de_fw-la propriis_fw-la 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in_o particular_a that_o the_o politic_a rule_n of_o some_o worldly_a prince_n for_o govern_v or_o contain_v their_o people_n in_o obedience_n can_v excuse_v a_o pious_a prince_n if_o the_o true_a liberty_n of_o the_o church_n be_v hurt_v by_o the_o practice_n of_o such_o and_o i_o say_v moreover_o it_o be_v very_o strange_a that_o baronius_n a_o priest_n and_o a_o cardinal_n priest_n shall_v admit_v here_o of_o such_o politic_a reason_n of_o constantine_n or_o rather_o in_o and_o for_o constantine_n against_o ecclesiastical_a immunity_n which_o yet_o himself_o maintain_v all_o along_o also_o here_o to_o have_v be_v usurp_v upon_o and_o unjust_o hurt_v by_o such_o procedure_n of_o constantine_n yea_o notwithstanding_o that_o pretence_n of_o danger_n in_o africa_n in_o his_o five_o tome_n a_o 400._o n._n 41._o he_o himself_n praise_n and_o perhaps_o just_o too_o praise_v the_o vigour_n and_o piety_n of_o st._n john_n chrysostome_n in_o dissuade_v the_o emperor_n arcadius_n from_o grant_v to_o to_o gainas_n the_o arian_n rebel_n that_o only_o one_o church_n which_o he_o desire_v for_o the_o people_n of_o his_o sect_n within_o constantinople_n theodoret._n l._n 5._o c._n 32._o albeit_o the_o emperor_n be_v otherwise_o and_o vehement_o too_o incline_v as_o consider_v the_o power_n of_o gainas_n and_o suspect_v he_o aim_v at_o the_o empire_n and_o therefore_o pray_v chrysostome_n consent_n for_o give_v he_o that_o one_o church_n to_o try_v if_o that_o will_v lessen_v the_o rage_n of_o gainas_n for_o he_o be_v already_o in_o the_o head_n of_o a_o army_n but_o all_o be_v in_o vain_a for_o chrysostome_n will_v not_o be_v move_v but_o whether_o this_o be_v in_o the_o case_n rather_o too_o much_o rigour_n then_o true_a vigour_n in_o chrysostome_n according_a to_o prudential_a maxim_n and_o pious_a too_o i_o leave_v other_o to_o judge_v i_o be_o sure_a other_o good_a churchman_n and_o even_o great_a bishop_n have_v also_o in_o our_o own_o age_n and_o some_o former_a too_o consent_v to_o the_o give_v away_o from_o catholic_n to_o protestant_n and_o to_o the_o use_n of_o protestant_a minister_n and_o their_o divine_a service_n not_o one_o church_n only_o but_o some_o hundred_o if_o not_o thousand_o of_o church_n in_o germany_n france_n flanders_n etc._n etc._n and_o this_o also_o for_o ever_o and_o even_o by_o public_a article_n of_o pacification_n and_o i_o be_o sure_a also_o if_o this_o be_v not_o lawful_a and_o i_o mean_v in_o point_n of_o conscience_n or_o of_o god_n law_n i_o see_v not_o how_o caholicks_n live_v under_o the_o dominion_n of_o protestant_a prince_n or_o state_n now_o at_o present_a in_o europe_n may_v with_o any_o colourable_a argument_n of_o reason_n urge_v the_o restore_n or_o bestow_v on_o themselves_o some_o or_o any_o of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v at_o present_a and_o have_v be_v so_o long_o in_o the_o possession_n and_o make_v use_v of_o by_o protestant_n minister_n and_o bishop_n for_o these_o prince_n state_n 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the_o verity_n of_o thing_n in_o themselves_o deny_v his_o own_o consent_n to_o the_o emperor_n arcadius_n for_o give_v that_o one_o church_n in_o constantinople_n to_o the_o arrian_n at_o that_o time_n or_o in_o that_o conjuncture_n and_o deny_v it_o just_o and_o prudent_o i_o mean_v still_o upon_o that_o only_a account_n of_o be_v against_o conscience_n or_o against_o the_o law_n of_o god_n other_o politic_a and_o wise_a consideration_n he_o may_v have_v have_v indeed_o as_o i_o believe_v he_o have_v and_o as_o i_o believe_v also_o whether_o he_o have_v or_o not_o he_o advise_v that_o herein_o which_o he_o think_v most_o pious_a but_o such_o concern_v we_o not_o here_o as_o no_o more_o do_v this_o whole_a instance_n itself_o nor_o any_o part_n of_o it_o but_o only_o to_o argue_v ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la out_o of_o baronius_n himself_o against_o himself_o and_o to_o show_v that_o if_o chrysostome_n be_v praise_v worthy_a for_o choose_v rather_o to_o let_v the_o whole_a empire_n nay_o 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do_v nothing_o in_o this_o whole_a procedure_n or_o any_o other_o of_o judge_a churchman_n in_o criminal_a cause_n and_o such_o dangerous_a variance_n but_o what_o become_v and_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o a_o pious_a prince_n who_o carry_v the_o sword_n and_o minister_n vindicative_a justice_n for_o by_o actual_a and_o effectual_a instance_n to_o appease_v the_o tumult_n of_o the_o very_a sacerdotal_a order_n and_o to_o assume_v the_o protection_n of_o the_o faith_n peace_n and_o tranquillity_n of_o the_o church_n and_o to_o force_v also_o when_o necessary_a the_o churchman_n themselves_o to_o live_v in_o peace_n among_o themselves_o and_o with_o other_o be_v part_n of_o this_o princely_a royal_a and_o imperial_a duty_n i_o say_v nothing_o here_o of_o john_n the_o meletian_a bishop_n or_o of_o those_o many_o other_o egyptian_a bishop_n command_v and_o actual_o send_v by_o constantine_n to_o exile_n of_o who_o baronius_n tom_n 3._o a_o 336._o n._n 16_o 17._o but_o forasmuch_o as_o baronius_n say_v ibid._n n._n
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and_o therefore_o say_v also_o by_o consequence_n that_o he_o lie_v under_o some_o constraint_n and_o some_o necessity_n and_o some_o bond_n tie_n or_o obligation_n to_o pay_v that_o didrachma_fw-la yet_o be_v it_o not_o consequent_a that_o i_o say_v he_o want_v that_o freedom_n or_o any_o such_o freedom_n which_o be_v simple_o such_o or_o lay_v under_o any_o constrrint_n or_o necessity_n which_o be_v simple_o such_o or_o even_o under_o any_o bond_n tie_n or_o obligation_n at_o least_o of_o justice_n simple_o such_o or_o which_o may_v oblige_v he_o under_o sin_n or_o the_o penalty_n of_o sin_n or_o by_o virtue_n of_o the_o tribute_n law_n itself_o to_o pay_v any_o tribute_n for_o the_o rest_n of_o my_o discourse_n most_o evident_o show_v i_o mean_v thereby_o no_o other_o constraint_n necessity_n or_o obligation_n but_o such_o as_o be_v secundum_fw-la quid_fw-la or_o diminutive_o such_o even_o such_o as_o john_n the_o xxii_o himself_o allow_v even_o such_o as_o our_o saviour_n himself_o 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