Selected quad for the lemma: reason_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
reason_n	ceremonial_a	law_n	moral_a	2,752	5	9.7768	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A94733	An apology or plea for the Two treatises, and appendix to them concerning infant-baptisme; published Decemb. 15. 1645. Against the unjust charges, complaints, and censures of Doctor Nathanael Homes, Mr Iohn Geree, Mr Stephen Marshall, Mr John Ley, and Mr William Hussey; together with a postscript by way of reply to Mr Blakes answer to Mr Tombes his letter, and Mr Edmund Calamy, and Mr Richard Vines preface to it. Wherein the principall heads of the dispute concerning infant-baptism are handled, and the insufficiency of the writings opposed to the two treatises manifested. / By Iohn Tombes, B.D.	Tombes, John, 1603?-1676.	1646 (1646)	Wing T1801; Thomason E352_1; ESTC R201072	143,666	170

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make_v with_o abraham_n be_v not_o a_o p●●e_a gospel_n covenant_n but_o mix_v in_o the_o same_o place_n i_o explain_v my_o meaning_n and_o prove_v it_o so_o full_o that_o i_o wonder_v that_o master_n martial_n master_n blake_n and_o other_o be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o except_v against_o it_o what_o the_o jesuit_n say_v in_o this_o matter_n or_o what_o the_o protestant_n say_v against_o they_o i_o have_v not_o time_n to_o examine_v the_o thing_n as_o i_o deliver_v it_o be_v plain_o according_a to_o scripture_n that_o there_o be_v some_o peculiar_a promise_n make_v to_o abraham_n ge._n 17._o which_o be_v not_o make_v to_o every_o believer_n to_o tell_v we_o that_o godliness_n have_v the_o promise_n of_o the_o life_n that_o now_o be_v 1_o tim._n 4._o 8._o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o present_a purpose_n for_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v therefore_o that_o godliness_n have_v the_o promise_n of_o the_o land_n of_o canaan_n or_o that_o christ_n shall_v be_v every_o godly_a man_n seed_n etc._n etc._n mr_n blake_n say_v circumcision_n be_v a_o fruit_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o parent_n but_o this_o be_v false_a for_o then_o all_o &_o none_o but_o child_n of_o believer_n be_v to_o be_v circumcise_v which_o be_v not_o true_a who_o child_n soever_o they_o be_v if_o in_o abraham_n house_n if_o buy_v with_o money_n of_o any_o stranger_n they_o be_v to_o be_v circumcise_v i_o have_v say_v circumcision_n be_v a_o privilege_n in_o that_o time_n of_o the_o church_n minority_n and_o this_o the_o apostle_n deliver_v gal._n 3._o &_o 4._o mr_n blake_n take_v it_o as_o if_o i_o have_v say_v the_o fruition_n of_o the_o promise_n in_o such_o a_o latitude_n be_v only_o a_o privilege_n during_o the_o time_n of_o the_o church_n minority_n and_o will_v have_v i_o give_v some_o scripture_n or_o colour_n of_o reason_n for_o it_o which_o be_v to_o impose_v on_o i_o the_o prove_v of_o that_o i_o affirm_v not_o i_o say_v he_o that_o will_v prove_v the_o birth_n privilege_n of_o our_o child_n from_o 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say_v the_o conceit_n that_o make_v disciple_n mat._n 28._o 19_o be_v to_o be_v do_v by_o baptise_v they_o be_v so_o absurd_a that_o i_o presume_v none_o that_o have_v any_o wit_n will_v entertain_v it_o now_o it_o be_v as_o absurd_a to_o say_v that_o the_o jew_n be_v disciple_v when_o they_o be_v circumcise_v and_o therefore_o i_o conceive_v mr_n blake_n and_o mr_n martial_n have_v not_o any_o wit_n but_o for_o this_o inference_n it_o be_v a_o far_o fetch_v thing_n i_o do_v not_o conceive_v the_o one_o so_o absurd_a as_o the_o other_o nor_o do_v yet_o and_o therefore_o i_o may_v impute_v defect_n of_o wit_n to_o the_o entertainer_n of_o the_o one_o conceit_n and_o yet_o not_o impute_v it_o to_o mr_n marshal_n and_o mr_n blake_n for_o entertain_v another_o conceit_n like_o it_o mr_n blake_n except_v against_o i_o for_o say_v these_o point_n have_v strong_a hold_n in_o his_o mind_n that_o baptism_n succeed_v into_o the_o room_n place_n and_o use_v of_o circumcision_n and_o that_o the_o 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first_o argument_n and_o five_o first_o conclusion_n and_o virtual_a command_n from_o circumcision_n master_n blake_n birth-priviledge_n pag._n 15._o and_o general_o all_o that_o prove_v infant-baptisme_n by_o infant-circumcision_a for_o circumcision_n and_o baptism_n be_v mere_a positive_a thing_n baptise_v of_o infant_n be_v confess_v not_o to_o have_v express_a institution_n gather_v by_o express_a precept_n or_o example_n in_o the_o new_a test_n and_o that_o which_o be_v allege_v be_v either_o express_a or_o no_o precept_n or_o example_n at_o all_o and_o if_o it_o be_v to_o be_v gather_v by_o consequence_n from_o institution_n or_o example_n apostolical_a in_o the_o new_a testament_n without_o the_o help_n of_o the_o precept_n of_o circumcision_n there_o will_v be_v for_o as_o much_o as_o it_o concern_v my_o part_n a_o end_n of_o the_o controversy_n therefore_o it_o be_v clear_a they_o that_o argue_v from_o circumcision_n to_o baptism_n do_v frame_v a_o addition_n to_o god_n 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