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A69145 The progenie of Catholicks and Protestants Whereby on the one side is proued the lineal descent of Catholicks, for the Roman faith and religion, from the holie fathers of the primitiue Church ... and on the other, the neuer-being of Protestants or their nouel sect during al the foresayd time, otherwise then in confessed and condemned hereticks. ... Anderton, Lawrence. 1633 (1633) STC 579; ESTC S100158 364,704 286

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much_o lament_v and_o the_o same_o name_n be_v apply_v to_o we_o by_o m._n 202._o m._n reason_n take_v out_o of_o god_n word_n p._n 5._o 23._o 24._o 73._o 74._o willet_n in_o his_o obedience_n etc._n etc._n p._n 29._o humphrey_n vita_fw-la juelli_fw-la p._n 202._o jacob_n d._n willet_n d._n humphrey_n and_o other_o yea_o the_o say_a name_n be_v so_o dissort_v from_o the_o prot._n church_n &_o so_o agreeable_a to_o the_o roman_a that_o therefore_o it_o be_v hateful_a and_o dislike_v by_o protestans_fw-la insomuch_o as_o luther_n translate_n the_o apostle_n creed_n into_o dutch_a thrust_v out_o the_o word_n catholic_n and_o in_o steed_n thereof_o put-in_a christian_a and_o of_o the_o like_a course_n observe_v by_o lutheran_n 377._o lutheran_n against_o rhem._n test_n in_o act._n 11._o f●l_v 377._o d._n fulk_n himself_o acknowledge_v and_o say_v it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v allow_v yea_o in_o the_o synod_n hold_v at_o altemberg_n between_o the_o divine_n of_o the_o palsgrave_n of_o rhine_n and_o the_o duke_n of_o
world_n can_v speak_v more_o full_o for_o we_o catholic_n in_o this_o behalf_n then_o do_v the_o protestant_a 105._o protestant_a in_o his_o consideration_n of_o the_o papist_n reason_n pag._n 105._o m._n powel_n in_o these_o word_n i_o grant_v that_o from_o the_o year_n of_o christ_n 605._o the_o professant_a company_n of_o popery_n have_v be_v very_o visible_a and_o perspicuous_a or_o reader_n or_o in_o his_o discourse_n upon_o the_o catalo_n of_o doc._n in_o the_o epi._n to_o the_o reader_n simon_n de_fw-fr voyon_n affirm_v that_o anno_fw-la 605._o when_o pope_n boniface_n be_v stall_v in_o the_o papal_a throne_n they_o falsehood_n get_v the_o victory_n etc._n etc._n then_o be_v the_o whole_a world_n overwhelm_v with_o the_o dregs_n of_o antichristian_a filthiness_n abominable_a superstistion_n and_o tradition_n of_o the_o pope_n than_o be_v that_o universal_a apostasy_n from_o the_o faith_n foretell_v by_o paul_n and_o 266._o and_o in_o his_o exposition_n of_o the_o creed_n v._o 1._o pag._n 266._o m._n parkins_n have_v speak_v of_o the_o second_o sign_n of_o christ_n come_n which_o there_o he_o make_v to_o be_v the_o reveal_n of_o antichrist_n in_o boniface_n anno_fw-la 607._o allege_v they_o next_o after_o as_o a_o three_o sign_n and_o as_o be_v distinct_a from_o the_o other_o a_o general_a depart_n of_o most_o man_n from_o the_o faith_n say_v respective_o thereof_o during_o the_o space_n of_o nine_o hundred_o year_n etc._n etc._n the_o popish_a heresy_n so_o do_v heretic_n style_v it_o have_v spread_v itself_o over_o the_o earth_n and_o so_o universal_o in_o his_o opinion_n throughout_o all_o part_n of_o faith_n that_o say_v he_o next_o afterward_o and_o the_o faithful_a servant_n of_o god_n be_v but_o as_o a_o handful_n of_o wheat_n in_o a_o mountain_n of_o chaff_n 34_o chaff_n in_o his_o rejoinder_n to_o bristol_n p._n 34_o which_o can_v scarce_o be_v discern_v and_o again_o 310._o again_o ib._n p._n 310._o we_o say_v for_o the_o space_n of_o many_o hundred_o year_n a_o universal_a apostasy_n overspr_v the_o whole_a face_n of_o the_o earth_n and_o that_o our_o protestant_n church_n be_v not_o then_o visible_a to_o the_o world_n but_o lay_v hide_v under_o the_o chaff_n of_o popery_n and_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o the_o record_n of_o all_o age_n manifest_v m._n morton_n 71._o morton_n protest_v appeal_n p._n 71._o will_v evade_v these_o testimony_n of_o m._n parkins_n by_o answer_v that_o he_o speak_v this_o only_a of_o the_o article_n of_o the_o pope_n primacy_n and_o not_o in_o regard_n of_o so_o large_a continuance_n and_o general_a belief_n of_o the_o other_o point_n of_o our_o now_o catholic_n faith_n which_o yet_o be_v most_o untrue_a parkins_n speak_v in_o general_n of_o a_o general_a depart_n from_o the_o faith_n and_o of_o a_o universal_a apostasy_n in_o so_o much_o as_o the_o protestant_a church_n or_o religion_n be_v not_o according_a to_o parkins_n then_o visible_a to_o the_o world_n in_o which_o sense_n also_o 36._o also_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o a_o counterf_n cath●_n p._n 36._o d._n fulk_n confess_v that_o the_o very_o religion_n of_o the_o papist_n come_v in_o and_o prevail_v anno_fw-la dom._n 607._o etc._n etc._n and_o so_o universal_o that_o say_v he_o the_o revelation_n of_o antichrist_n with_o the_o church_n flight_n into_o the_o wilderness_n be_v anno_fw-la 607._o so_o clear_a and_o confess_v it_o be_v that_o our_o now_o roman_a religion_n have_v continue_v universal_o for_o these_o last_o thousand_o year_n a_o truth_n so_o evident_a also_o that_o most_o protestant_n do_v from_o thence_o infer_v and_o avouch_v that_o all_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n for_o these_o last_o 1000_o year_n have_v be_v antichrist_n 2._o antichrist_n de_fw-fr antichrist_n in_o praef_n p._n 1._o 2._o m._n powel_n affirm_v that_o the_o pope_n have_v be_v antichrist_n at_o all_o time_n since_o gregory_n the_o great_a according_a to_o 371._o to_o cont._n bellar._n par_fw-fr 1._o pag._n 371._o danaeus_n the_o kingdom_n of_o that_o antichrist_n have_v now_o manifest_o continue_v more_o than_o nine_o hundred_o year_n from_o the_o emperor_n phocas_n to_o the_o time_n of_o luther_n d._n whitaker_n 144._o whitaker_n de_fw-fr eccles_n count_v bellar_n p._n 144._o affirm_v boniface_n the_o three_o who_o live_v anno_fw-la 607_o and_o all_o his_o successor_n to_o have_v be_v antichrist_n 266._o antichrist_n in_o his_o answ_n to_o a_o counterf_n catho_fw-la pa._n 27._o and_o in_o his_o confut_o of_o purgatory_n pa._n 344_o and_o parkins_n v._n 1._o pag._n 266._o d._n fulk_n avouch_v that_o the_o pope_n from_o boniface_n the_o three_o be_v blaspemous_a heretic_n and_o antichrist_n 4._o antichrist_n in_o his_o treatise_n of_o antic_a p._n 4._o d._n downeham_n aver_v that_o the_o whole_a row_n or_o rabble_n of_o pope_n from_o boniface_n the_o three_o downward_o be_v antichrist_n 330._o antichrist_n in_o his_o trial_n of_o the_o romish_a cler_n pa._n 330._o m._n wotton_n term_v boniface_n the_o three_o the_o first_o reveal_v antichrist_n and_o 189._o and_o hist_o sacr_n par_fw-fr p._n 189._o hospinian_n censure_v he_o and_o all_o his_o successor_n to_o be_v verissimos_fw-la antichristos_fw-la most_o true_a antichrist_n d._n whitaker_n 144._o whitaker_n de_fw-fr eccl_n count_v 8._o l._n contro_fw-la 2._o q._n 4._o p._n 144._o deliver_v his_o own_o and_o other_o protestant_n opinion_n herein_o say_v we_o affirm_v gregory_n the_o great_a to_o have_v be_v the_o last_o true_a and_o holy_a bishop_n of_o that_o church_n etc._n etc._n for_o those_o that_o follow_v be_v true_a antichrist_n etc._n etc._n and_o because_o they_o ask_v and_o demand_v of_o we_o some_o certain_a time_n we_o assign_v they_o this_o to_o wit_n of_o antichrist_n first_o come_v so_o manifest_v it_o be_v that_o all_o the_o roman_a bishop_n after_o these_o last_o thousand_o year_n be_v thus_o censure_v by_o so_o many_o protestant_n for_o antichrist_n have_v no_o less_o profess_v and_o maintain_v the_o present_a roman_a religion_n than_o gregory_n the_o fifteen_o who_o now_o govern_v that_o sea_n and_o be_v charge_v by_o protestant_n to_o be_v antichrist_n himself_o and_o as_o all_o the_o pope_n for_o these_o last_o thousand_o year_n be_v thus_o censure_v for_o antichrist_n so_o be_v the_o article_n of_o the_o pope_n primacy_n or_o supreme_a authority_n over_o the_o whole_a church_n in_o all_o matter_n ecclesiastical_a plain_o acknowledge_v by_o d._n morton_n himself_o to_o be_v no_o less_o ancient_a for_o whereas_o m._n brierlie_n produce_v the_o testimony_n of_o parkins_n napper_n and_o broccard_n for_o the_o continuance_n of_o our_o roman_a religion_n in_o general_n for_o these_o last_o thousand_o year_n d._n morton_n restrain_v their_o meaning_n though_o undeserued_o only_o to_o the_o point_n of_o the_o pope_n primacy_n say_v 71_o say_v prot._n appeal_n p._n 71_o the_o allege_v author_n speak_v of_o the_o primacy_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o again_o 72_o again_o ibid_fw-la p._n 72_o be_v it_o grant_v for_o so_o it_o be_v that_o the_o papal_a primacy_n beginning_n in_o boniface_n the_o three_o be_v now_o nine_o hundred_o year_n old_a so_o ancient_a and_o universal_a be_v this_o so_o transcendent_a article_n of_o the_o pope_n primacy_n in_o matter_n spiritual_a a_o point_n of_o such_o importance_n that_o d._n reynolds_n affirm_v therein_o 568._o therein_o confe_fw-mi p._n 568._o the_o very_a be_v and_o essence_n of_o a_o papist_n to_o consist_v and_o d._n whitaker_n avouch_v that_o 503._o that_o contra_fw-la duroe_n pag._n 503._o it_o be_v the_o head_n of_o popish_a religion_n of_o which_o almost_o all_o the_o rest_n depend_v but_o what_o more_o forcible_o can_v be_v produce_v for_o the_o further_o confirm_v of_o our_o church_n foresay_a continuance_n for_o these_o last_o 1000_o year_n than_o the_o public_a exercise_n of_o our_o church_n liturgy_n the_o holy_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n during_o the_o foresay_a time_n see_v not_o only_o according_a to_o d._n sutclif_n 11._o sutclif_n answer_v to_o exception_n pa._n 11._o in_o the_o mass_n the_o very_a soul_n of_o popery_n do_v consist_v as_o also_o according_a to_o d._n whitaker_n 426._o whitaker_n contra_fw-la duroe_n pag._n 426._o nothing_o be_v more_o holy_a and_o divine_a in_o our_o conceit_n but_o withal_o the_o mass_n include_v sundry_a article_n of_o our_o catholic_n faith_n as_o true_a external_a sacrifice_n the_o real_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n in_o the_o eucharist_n priesthood_n prayer_n to_o angel_n and_o saint_n prayer_n and_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o sundry_a such_o like_a thereby_o do_v plain_o convince_v the_o universal_a continuance_n of_o our_o catholic_n religion_n d._n luther_n missae_fw-la luther_n in_o colloquiis_fw-la ger._n de_fw-fr missae_fw-la affirm_v that_o private_a mass_n have_v deceive_v many_o saint_n and_o carry_v they_o away_o into_o error_n from_o the_o time_n of_o gregory_n for_o 800._o year_n with_o he_o agree_v m._n tindal_n 1338_o tindal_n act._n mon._n p._n 1338_o in_o
report_v that_o constantin_n when_o he_o go_v to_o the_o war_n use_v to_o carry_v about_o with_o he_o a_o tabernacle_n make_v in_o form_n of_o a_o church_n to_o the_o end_n that_o a_o consecrate_a house_n shall_v not_o be_v want_v either_o to_o himself_o live_v in_o the_o desert_n or_o to_o his_o army_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o priest_n and_o deacon_n do_v daily_o attend_v upon_o the_o tabernacle_n the_o truth_n hereof_o be_v so_o certain_a that_o it_o be_v confess_v by_o crispinus_n 89._o crispinus_n of_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o church_n p._n 89._o but_o for_o further_a testimony_n of_o hallow_v of_o church_n in_o those_o ancient_a time_n see_v d._n fulk_n 378._o fulk_n against_o rhem._n test_n in_o 1._o he_o 4._o see_v 13._o fol._n 378._o the_o centurie-writer_n 408._o centurie-writer_n cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 408._o and_o crispinus_n 93._o crispinus_n of_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o church_n p._n 93._o second_o these_o consecrate_a church_n be_v dedicate_v in_o memory_n of_o christ_n or_o some_o of_o his_o saint_n in_o which_o respect_n s._n gregory_n be_v charge_v by_o 568._o by_o chron._n l._n 4._o p._n 567._o 568._o carion_n to_o have_v command_v church_n to_o be_v dedicate_v to_o the_o bone_n and_o ash_n of_o saint_n m._n mason_n affirm_v that_o 57_o that_o consecration_n of_o engl._n bishop_n p._n 57_o in_o canterbury_n the_o regal_a city_n even_o when_o austin_n arrive_v there_o be_v a_o christian_a church_n build_v in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o roman_n dedicate_v to_o the_o memory_n of_o s._n martin_n and_o whereas_o eusebius_n de_fw-fr vita_fw-la constantini_n l._n 3._o c._n 47._o relate_v that_o constantin_n erect_v church_n in_o the_o honour_n of_o martyr_n and_o l._n 4._o c._n 58._o 59_o dedicate_v a_o most_o sumptious_a church_n in_o memory_n of_o our_o sauiour_n apostle_n the_o 408._o the_o cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 408._o centurist_n speak_v hereof_o say_v these_o dedication_n seem_v to_o have_v spring_v from_o judaisme_n without_o any_o commandment_n of_o god_n yea_o 452._o yea_o cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 452._o they_o further_o confess_v that_o constantin_n appoint_v a_o very_a solemn_a feast_n for_o the_o dedication_n of_o the_o church_n and_o brightman_n 325._o brightman_n apoc._n in_o c._n 12._o p._n 325._o acknowledge_v that_o at_o constantins_n come_v in_o etc._n etc._n temple_n be_v consecrate_a to_o martyr_n yea_o say_v d._n beard_n 389._o beard_n retractive_a from_o romish_a religion_n p._n 388_o 389._o the_o annual_a feast_n of_o dedication_n of_o church_n grow_v from_o a_o sinister_a imitation_n of_o constantin_n the_o great_a who_o because_o he_o keep_v a_o solemn_a day_n at_o the_o dedication_n of_o a_o certain_a church_n which_o he_o have_v build_v therefore_o it_o be_v receive_v as_o a_o law_n etc._n etc._n to_o solemnize_v every_o year_n a_o holiday_n upon_o the_o day_n of_o the_o dedication_n of_o their_o church_n three_o in_o the_o church_n be_v build_v a_o place_n several_a for_o the_o lay_n up_o of_o holy_a thing_n call_v the_o vestry_n whereof_o the_o centurist_n 835._o centurist_n cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 835._o allege_v the_o laodicen_n council_n say_v it_o be_v not_o fit_a that_o subdeacons_n have_v liberty_n to_o go_v into_o the_o vestry_n and_o touch_v our_o lord_n vessel_n yea_o they_o 391._o they_o cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 409._o and_o see_v osiand_n cent_n 5._o p._n 391._o acknowledge_v the_o vestry_n to_o be_v mention_v by_o s._n ambrose_n l._n 1._o offic_n c._n 50._o four_o as_o concern_v chancel_v d._n raynolds_n 488._o raynolds_n in_o his_o conference_n with_o m._n hart_n p._n 488._o confess_v from_o s._n denis_n the_o areopagite_n that_o in_o his_o time_n there_o be_v chancel_v sever_v with_o sanctification_n from_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n and_o hospinian_n 85._o hospinian_n de_fw-fr templis_fw-la p._n 85._o makeh_o mention_n of_o chancel_v use_v in_o constantins_n time_n and_o the_o centurist_n 87._o centurist_n cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 1165._o hospin_n do_v templis_fw-la p._n 85._o 86._o 87._o affirm_v that_o lay-person_n be_v prohibit_v to_o come_v into_o the_o chancel_v osiander_n 390._o osiander_n cent._n 4._o p._n 390._o charge_v the_o laodicen_n council_n as_o superstitious_a herein_o five_o but_o nothing_o be_v more_o diligent_o regard_v and_o observe_v in_o church_n then_o sacred_a altar_n s._n gregory_n be_v charge_v by_o the_o centurist_n 369._o centurist_n cent._n 6._o col_fw-fr 369._o with_o consecration_n of_o altar_n and_o osiander_n 290._o osiander_n cent._n 6._o p_o 289._o 290._o affirm_v that_o augustin_n send_v by_o s._n gregory_n thrust_v upon_o the_o english_a church_n the_o roman_a rite_n and_o custom_n to_o wit_n altar_n etc._n etc._n peter_n martyr_n 225._o martyr_n in_o his_o common_a place_n in_o english_a part_n 4._o p._n 225._o write_v that_o petrus_n alexandrinus_n attribute_v more_o to_o the_o outward_a altar_n then_o to_o the_o livelie_a temple_n of_o christ_n he_o further_o 226._o further_o ibid._n p._n 226._o confess_v that_o optatus_n l._n 6._o against_o parmenianus_n say_v what_o be_v the_o altar_n even_o the_o seat_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n such_o say_n as_o these_o say_v peter_n martyr_n edifyed_a not_o the_o people_n and_o for_o the_o self_n same_o say_v be_v optatus_n reprove_v by_o the_o centurie-writer_n 409._o centurie-writer_n cent._n 4._o c._n 6._o col_fw-fr 409._o hospinian_n 100_o hospinian_n de_fw-fr templis_fw-la p._n 98._o and_o see_v p._n 101._o 459._o 460_o 100_o say_v i_o dare_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o in_o the_o time_n of_o constantin_n the_o great_a stately_a temple_n stately_a and_o beautiful_a altar_n take_v their_o beginning_n and_o the_o same_o be_v fix_v and_o of_o stone_n the_o centurist_n 409._o centurist_n cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 409._o speak_v of_o the_o same_o age_n affirm_v that_o the_o history_n of_o this_o time_n testify_v that_o there_o be_v altar_n in_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n but_o this_o custom_n come_v into_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n from_o the_o jewish_a custom_n but_o praetorius_n 287._o praetorius_n de_fw-fr sacramentis_fw-la 287._o arise_v high_a avouch_v that_o anno_fw-la 262._o pope_n sixtus_n the_o second_o abrogate_a the_o table_n hitherto_o use_v and_o erect_v altar_n which_o say_v he_o better_o represent_v judaisme_n then_o christianisme_n m._n carthwright_n 58._o carthwright_n ●n_v his_o 2._o reply_v part_n 1._o p._n 517._o and_o see_v jacob_n in_o his_o reason_n take_v out_o of_o god_n word_n etc._n etc._n p._n 58._o think_v that_o ignatius_n call_v the_o communion_n table_n unproper_o a_o altar_n yea_o he_o 264_o he_o ●n_v his_o 2._o reply_v part_n last_o p._n 264_o reprove_v the_o father_n in_o general_a say_n the_o ancient_a writer_n abuse_v herein_o may_v easy_o appear_v in_o that_o in_o this_o too_o great_a liberty_n of_o speech_n they_o use_v to_o call_v the_o holy_a supper_n of_o the_o lord_n a_o sacrifice_n and_o the_o communion_n table_n a_o altar_n in_o like_a sort_n say_v peter_n martyr_n 225._o martyr_n in_o his_o com._n plac_n part_n 4._o p._n 225._o the_o father_n shall_v not_o with_o so_o much_o liberty_n have_v seem_v here_o and_o there_o to_o have_v abuse_v the_o name_n altar_n so_o plain_a it_o be_v that_o altar_n consecrate_v be_v use_v in_o those_o ancient_a time_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n six_o upon_o these_o altar_n be_v place_v light_n or_o candle_n m._n bale_n 44._o bale_n in_o act._n rom._n pontiff_a p._n 44._o confess_v that_o s._n gregory_n give_v light_n to_o church_n and_o d._n morton_n say_v of_o he_o margin_n he_o prot._n appeal_n l._n 1._o p._n 57_o margin_n he_o indeed_o require_v light_n but_o not_o that_o thereby_o he_o may_v burn_v day_n etc._n etc._n which_o may_v seem_v to_o have_v be_v rather_o the_o institution_n of_o his_o successor_n sabinianus_n for_o etc._n etc._n but_o our_o late_a writer_n d._n beard_n prove_v the_o same_o from_o 65._o from_o retractive_a from_o rom._n relig._n p._n 65._o the_o decree_n of_o our_o own_o pope_n gregory_n the_o first_o and_o sabinian_n his_o successor_n the_o one_o of_o which_o appoint_v certain_a land_n for_o the_o maintenance_n of_o waxe-c●ndles_a and_o lamp_n in_o church_n &_o the_o other_o ordain_v that_o burn_a lamp_n shall_v be_v always_o keep_v in_o their_o church_n the_o 487._o the_o cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 487._o centurist_n charge_n constantin_n that_o he_o ordain_v the_o burn_a of_o candle_n in_o the_o church_n in_o the_o daytime_n and_o again_o say_v 410._o say_v cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 410._o they_o eusebius_n have_v report_v that_o wax-candle_n and_o lamp_n be_v burn_v in_o the_o daytime_n in_o the_o place_n of_o the_o assembly_n by_o constantin_n the_o great_a in_o like_a sort_n crispinus_n 93._o crispinus_n of_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o church_n p._n 93._o think_v that_o in_o constantine_n time_n many_o ceremony_n il-agreing_a with_o god_n word_n be_v bring_v in_o as_o candle_n light_v in_o the_o daytime_n m._n beard_n affirm_v that_o 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wittenberg_n when_o the_o one_o party_n object_v a_o say_n of_o luther_n the_o other_o party_n upon_o perusal_n of_o the_o place_n find_v therein_o the_o word_n catholic_n thereupon_o reject_v the_o whole_a for_o counterfayte_v say_v thereof_o 154_o thereof_o colloq_fw-la altemberg_n fol_z 154_o these_o word_n uz._n catholick_o understand_v do_v not_o taste_v of_o the_o phrase_n of_o luther_n and_o again_o it_o be_v not_o the_o phrase_n of_o luther_n that_o any_o thing_n ought_v to_o be_v understand_v catholick_o but_o not_o only_a lutheran_n but_o likewise_o caluinist_n be_v much_o out_o of_o love_n and_o like_n with_o the_o word_n catholic_n as_o may_v be_v see_v in_o beza_n 23_o beza_n pref._n non_fw-fr test_n jacob_n in_o his_o reason_n etc._n etc._n p._n 5._o 7._o 24._o 23_o m._n jacob_n and_o other_o and_o yet_o all_o this_o notwithstanding_o 286._o notwithstanding_o trial_n of_o the_o romish_a clergy_n p._n 285._o 286._o m._n wotton_n confess_v that_o 355._o that_o ibid._n fol._n 355._o the_o reason_n of_o the_o name_n catholic_n be_v at_o first_o that_o there_o may_v be_v a_o title_n to_o distinguish_v sound_a christian_n and_o true_a church_n from_o heretic_n out_o of_o the_o premise_n than_o we_o may_v necessary_o infer_v that_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n assure_v we_o that_o the_o true_a catholic_n church_n of_o christ_n must_v ever_o continue_v even_o from_o christ_n time_n until_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n and_o the_o same_o truth_n be_v likewise_o acknowledge_v by_o the_o learned_a protestant_n as_o also_o that_o the_o roman_a church_n have_v according_o so_o continue_v know_v and_o universal_a in_o all_o precedent_a age_n the_o protestant_a congregation_n be_v confess_o unknown_a in_o any_o age_n precedent_n to_o this_o of_o we_o that_o therefore_o our_o roman_a church_n be_v the_o only_a true_a church_n of_o christ_n so_o former_o describe_v by_o the_o foresaid_a scripture_n the_o protestant_a church_n remain_v only_o a_o sect_n heretical_a nothing_o perform_v the_o foresaid_a oracle_n the_o second_o proof_n from_o sacred_a scripture_n in_o confirmation_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o confutation_n of_o the_o protestant_n be_v take_v from_o the_o euer-visibilitie_a of_o christ_n church_n chapter_n iii_o the_o church_n continuance_n be_v by_o nothing_o more_o plain_o teach_v in_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n then_o euer-visibilitie_a which_o be_v evermore_o to_o accompany_v the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n in_o which_o respect_n it_o be_v resemble_v by_o the_o prophet_n 1._o prophet_n c._n 2._o 2._o micheas_n 4._o 1._o esay_n to_o a_o mountain_n prepare_v in_o the_o top_n of_o mountain_n and_o exalt_v above_o other_o hill_n that_o be_v as_o 2._o as_o in_o the_o marginal_a note_n of_o the_o engl._n bib._n of_o an._n 1576_o in_o esay_n 2._o 2._o protestant_n expound_v the_o same_o in_o a_o evident_a place_n to_o be_v see_v &_o discern_v it_o be_v likewise_o compare_v to_o the_o sun_n whereof_o it_o be_v say_v her_o 60.20_o her_o esa_n 60.20_o sun_n shall_v not_o be_v set_v nor_o her_o moon_n hide_v and_o concern_v her_o public_a and_o know_v professor_n god_n himself_o promise_v say_v 61.9_o say_v es_fw-ge 61.9_o i_o will_v make_v a_o everlasting_a covenant_n with_o they_o etc._n etc._n all_o that_o see_v they_o shall_v know_v they_o that_o they_o be_v the_o seed_n which_o the_o lord_n have_v bless_v in_o like_a sort_n 5.5_o sort_n math._n 5.5_o christ_n himself_o speak_v of_o his_o church_n compare_v it_o to_o a_o city_n place_v upon_o a_o hill_n that_o can_v not_o be_v hide_v and_o prescribe_v a_o sovereign_a remedy_n against_o dissension_n daily_o arise_v between_o brother_n and_o brother_n he_o direct_v the_o party_n grieve_v that_o he_o shall_v 16.17_o shall_v math._n 18.15_o 16.17_o tell_v the_o church_n which_o he_o can_v not_o accomplish_v unless_o she_o may_v be_v to_o he_o daily_o know_v and_o discern_v and_o so_o this_o remedy_n be_v by_o our_o saviour_n appoint_v in_o help_n of_o a_o daily_a continue_a disease_n argue_v that_o as_o the_o disease_n be_v continual_a so_o likewise_o that_o the_o remedy_n thereof_o so_o appoint_v by_o he_o shall_v be_v in_o like_a manner_n continual_a the_o prescript_n therefore_o of_o this_o continual_a remedy_n be_v to_o tell_v the_o church_n which_o we_o can_v not_o perform_v unless_o the_o church_n be_v to_o we_o in_o her_o pastor_n visible_a and_o know_v prove_v evident_o that_o the_o church_n must_v according_o continue_v visible_a and_o know_v yea_o our_o saviour_n himself_o do_v special_o forewarn_v we_o against_o all_o pretend_a invisible_a congregation_n say_v 24.26_o say_v math._n 24.26_o if_o therefore_o they_o shall_v say_v unto_o you_o behold_v he_o be_v in_o the_o d●sert_n go_v you_o not_o forth_o behold_v he_o be_v in_o secret_a place_n believe_v it_o not_o whereupon_o m._n clapham_n 23._o clapham_n remedy_n against_o schism_n p._n 23._o teach_v that_o our_o saviour_n forbid_v go_v out_o unto_o such_o desert_n and_o corner-ghospels_a math._n 24.23.24_o now_o as_o these_o most_o infallible_a oracle_n of_o sacred_a writ_n do_v thus_o plain_o teach_v we_o the_o church_n euer-visibilitie_a so_o be_v the_o same_o truth_n answerable_o understand_v believe_v and_o defend_v by_o the_o learn_a protestant_n that_o ever_o be_v and_o that_o from_o the_o scripture_n themselves_o to_o this_o end_n m._n clapham_n 17._o clapham_n remedy_n against_o schism_n p._n 17._o write_v contrary_a to_o all_o scripture_n they_o do_v affirm_v that_o there_o have_v be_v no_o visibilitie_n of_o the_o church_n for_o former_a hundred_o of_o year_n which_o position_n be_v against_o ps_n 72.3.17_o esay_n 59.21_o yea_o have_v allege_v many_o proof_n from_o the_o scripture_n &_o otherwise_o he_o conclude_v thus_o not_o only_o all_o ancient_n ever_o hold_v the_o church_n euer-visibilitie_a but_o also_o all_o learned_a man_n of_o our_o age._n 360._o age._n loc._n come_v c._n de_fw-fr eccl._n p._n 354._o 360._o melancthon_n direct_v that_o whensoever_o we_o think_v of_o the_o church_n let_v we_o behold_v the_o company_n of_o such_o man_n as_o be_v gather_v together_o which_o ●s_v the_o visible_a church_n neither_o let_v we_o dream_v that_o the_o elect_a of_o god_n be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o any_o ●ther_a place_n then_o in_o this_o visible_a society_n for_o neither_o will_n god_n be_v called-upon_a or_o acknowedged_a otherwise_o than_o he_o have_v reveal_v himself_o neither_o have_v he_o reveal_v himself_o else_o where_o save_v only_o in_o the_o visible_a church_n in_o which_o only_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o gospel_n sound_v neither_o let_v we_o imagine_v of_o any_o other_o invisible_a church_n but_o let_v we_o know_v that_o the_o voice_n of_o he_o gospel_n must_v sound_v open_o among_o man_n according_a as_o it_o be_v write_v psal_n 18._o their_o ●ound_n be_v go_v forth_o into_o all_o the_o earth_n etc._n etc._n and_o then_o allege_v sundry_a other_o place_n ●f_a scripture_n he_o add_v which_o place_n and_o other_o the_o like_a speak_v not_o of_o plato_n idea_n but_o ●f_o a_o visible_a church_n again_o doct._n again_o pref._n in_o corpus_n christ_n doct._n it_o be_v of_o necessity_n that_o we_o confess_v a_o visible_a church_n whereof_o the_o son_n of_o god_n say_v math._n 18._o tell_v the_o church_n and_o whereof_o paul_n say_v ●_o cor._n 4._o we_o be_v make_v a_o spectacle_n to_o the_o whole_a world_n to_o angel_n and_o to_o man_n what_o spectacle_n i_o beseech_v you_o be_v that_o which_o be_v not_o see_v and_o whereunto_o tend_v this_o monuous_a speech_n which_o deny_v the_o visible_a church_n it_o abolish_v all_o testimony_n of_o anti●itie_n it_o take_v away_o all_o judgement_n it_o cause_v a_o endless_a confusion_n and_o induce_v commonwealth_n of_o unrulie_a ruffian_n wherein_o no_o one_o care_v for_o another_o all_o which_o to_o ●e_v most_o true_a the_o protestant_n of_o these_o day_n do_v over-strong_o confirm_v agreable_o hereunto_o say_v 240._o say_v jesuit_n part_n 2._o cat_n 3._o p._n 240._o d._n humphrey_n i_o have_v declare_v that_o we_o do_v not_o ●lace_v the_o church_n in_o the_o air_n but_o upon_o the_o earth_n we_o confess_v the_o church_n to_o be_v a_o city_n place_v upon_o a_o hill_n which_o can_v not_o be_v hide_v math._n 5._o to_o be_v a_o high_a mountain_n of_o the_o house_n of_o god_n high_a than_o other_o hill_n to_o which_o all_o nation_n shall_v flow_v esay_n 2._o etc._n etc._n and_o again_o 241._o again_o ibid._n p._n 241._o it_o be_v visible_a for_o the_o exercise_n of_o piety_n which_o be_v see_v of_o all_o in_o the_o church_n for_o whilst_o minister_n teach_v other_o learn_v they_o minister_v sacrament_n these_o communicate_v etc._n etc._n who_o see_v not_o these_o thing_n be_v blind_a than_o a_o mole_n etc._n etc._n and_o last_o 281._o last_o ibid._n p._n 281._o he_o conclude_v of_o the_o church_n militant_a which_o be_v the_o only_a point_n in_o question_n that_o it_o be_v a_o most_o clear_a conclusion_n