will all not only say but swear also that they have omitted no endeavours of Diligence or Pious means They are all in their own conceits sure they are in the right and that those who differ from them are deluded blinded with Passion byas'd by Interest or the like Give me Sir an Infallible Rule whereby I may know which of them have the Spirit of Truth which the contrary Phil. I tell you once again let GOD Judge them I meddle with none of them 't is not my Affair I am certain I am in the right Eu. Under favour Sir I think this a Demonstration that every Protestant Church is at the same time according to your own Principles both in the true Church and out of the true Church and consequently neither in nor out which is a meer Chimera I thus prove my Assertion Every Protestant Church is a true Church because her Members of sound judgment are fit Judges in Controversies of Faith by Scripture which alone they follow and which is clear in all things necessary to Salvation Every Protestant Church is also a false Church because those Churches which are by Members of sound judgement governing themselves by Scripture judg'd Heretical Blasphemers Anti-christian and Diabolical must needs be false Churches But as I have shewn above there is no particular Protestant Church which has not by some other particular Protestant Church been so call'd represented and believ'd therefore every Protestant Church is false Thus is every Protestant Church both true and false and consequently Church and no Church which as I said before is a meer Chimera Phil. Hold Sir not so fast I have let you ramble long enough 't is now time to take you up You have Sir I perceive forgot what I told you in the beginning of our Discourse that the Point concerning which the difference is may perhaps be of such a Nature that there is no necessity of believing it with Divine Faith that is it may perhaps be none of the Essentials or Fundamentals of Faith. Eu. There may therefore be Heretical Blasphemous Anti-christian and Diabolical Doctrines taught by sound Christians remaining in the Communion of the H. Catholick Church because all these Characters are consistent with the Fundamentals of Christianity oblige me therefore so far as to give me aList of these all-saving Fundamentals Phil. That Sir is not so easy as you imagin for by reason of Mens different Capacities and Apprehension that may be necessary to one Person which is not so to another so that to require such a List of me is to bid me shape a Coat for the Moon which she being never at a stay but always either increasing or decreasing is utterly impossible This only you may rely on as a certain truth that nothing can be a Fundamental or Essential Point of Faith which is not clearly deliver'd in Holy Writ Nor can there be any greater Evidence of a Points being clearly taught in Scripture than that Learned and Pious Men after a diligent search and the use of due means differ not about it Eu. I see then Sir by this your Doctrine that a Man may without endangering his Salvation deny all these Articles I have hitherto been taught to be the principal Points of Christianity Phil. Sir what you may have been taught I know not but since you press me so close give me leave to tell you with the Learned Mr. Chillingworth that if you mean by Fundamental what is necessary to be explicitly believed by every one for the obtaining of Eternal Life there is perhaps nothing so but that there is a GOD and that JESUS CHRIST came to save finners and that whoever holding this Foundation shall be ready to submit his Belief to all that he shall find reveal'd in Scripture taken in such sense as he himself shall after the use of due means Judge to be true can never err damnably nor consequently cease to be a Member of that Church out of which there is no Salvation Eu. I must confess Sir that your Charity is of a very vast extent For by this your Doctrine all those who were by the Fathers in the Primitive Church and the first General Councils condemned as notorious Hereticks ought not to be excluded the Pale of the Church But pray Sir what would you say to one who having read the Holy Scripture with all possible Diligence and consider'd not only the many Contradictory Opinions held by Men pretending to no other Rule but also the possitive Assertion of Protestants that all visible Churches for a thousand years have been Erroneous and False and that all the Signs Prodigies and Miracles wrought by pretended Catholicks as you are pleas'd to call us were nothing but Imposters and Cheats that there was no true Holiness in all our Saints nor any Faith to be given to our Fathers How far Sir I say would your Charity extend to one who after a thorow Consideration of all this should with the Turks remain perswaded that as Moses's Law was abolisht by the coming of our Lord and Saviour JESUS CHRIST so the Christian Law was to have an end at the coming of Mahomet who was according to their Doctrine a Prophet sent by God to that purpose and as far exceeded CHRIST as CHRIST did Moses and being thus perswaded should follow the Example of Adam Neuserus a most Learned Protestant and chief Pastor of Heidelberg Osiand Cant. p. 16. who became a Mahometan and was Circumcis'd at Constantinople with many of his Flock Phil. Since I am Sir as I have already told you to judge of my Neighbour with Charity I find no reason why I may not allow Salvation to such a Man acting sincerely especially seeing he holds the Foundation that there is a GOD and that IESVS CHRIST came to save sinners Eu. I see then Sir that he was not altogether mistaken who affirm'd Protestancy and Turcism to be very near of kin What would you think of another who believing the Alcoran to be as indeed it is nothing but the Dreams of a Blasphemous Impostor and hearing your Opinion of the Miracles wrought during the last ten Ages should from thence and from the many seeming Contradictions not easily reconcil'd between the Old Testament and the New between Gospel and Gospel really in his Conscience believe all Christianity to be a Cheat and the Four Evangelists Four Impostors and should therefore as befel the Learned Protestant Allemannus judge it his safest course to embrace Judaism This Man is of a sound Judgment reads Scripture examins diligently and Schlusselberg de Theol. Cal. fol. 9. sincerely according to his Judgment of Scripture believes all Christians either Cheats or Fools animated by your example who believe the same of the last Ten Ages Phil. If this case be possible I see not how I can in Charity pronounce such a Man condemn'd to Eternal Torments Eu Once more Sir what would you say of another that should after all private diligence
best of Governments left by Christ in his Church wherein every sound man should have Power to cancel the Decisions of the highest Courts and a full liberty of disobeying and opposing the Sentence of the Supream Judges in Law unless it should agree with his own private sense of the same Law. For if in matters of Faith the object whereof is remote from our senses and Essentially obscure to us in this Life every sound Sheep is left Judge over his Pastor and the whole Church what more reasonable than in a Question of meum tuum which we feel with our hands and see with our eyes and which is the ground of all Law and Government every sound man should be his own Judge and Arraign Judge and Condemn his Ruler Governour Prince King or Emperour if in his private Opinion he Judges they proceed not according to Law as he understands it This sequel is so natural and inevitable in our Protestant Principles that it has effectually in all Countreys where-ever Protestancy has spread it self Armed the Subjects against their Temporal Lords as it first had done against the Spiritual and nothing was so ordinary as to see them March to the Field with a Bible under their arms and a Text of Sripture in their Banner to fight the Battle of the Lord against the Princes of the Earth and hence perhaps it was that wise Prince King Iames the First presaging as it were the Fate of his Royal Son said of the Members of Parliament then sitting That they were an Assembly of 300 Kings That all the late Wars of Germany against the Emperour and Lawful Soveraigns happen'd upon their change of Religion is witness beside many others Dretserus A Protestant writer in part 2. Nullenarii 6. pag. 661. Of Basil Geneva Zuitzerland Sweedland Holland see Crispin Chitreus Flor. Rai c. 4 Paradox A true Protestant must grant that our Saviour was much over-seen in the method he took of Converting the World by Teachers and Preachers and laying a reiterated Command upon all men of believing them since really no man is bound to pin his Faith upon anothers sleeve Now the Efficacious way would have been to Command his Life and Actions to be writ in all Languages and compil'd with the Old Testament to be sent into every part of the World for all things necessary to Salvation being clear and evident in Holy Scripture and no body being oblig'd to believe more than the comprehends and as it were sees to be true out of the said Holy Scripture all by this means would or at least might have presently discover'd the nullity of their own false Religions and consequently imbrace common Christianity that is believe so much of Christ and his Doctrine as each one should draw under the Scheme of his own Reason nothing else being necessary to Salvation in our Protestant Principles 5 Paradox Should a Gentleman make the delivery of his Estate saying Sir I deliver unto you a full and free Possession of this Inheritance to dispose of at Discretion in quality of true Owner and Lord but if you touch it against my will or dispose of it in whole or in part otherwise than I shall judge expedient expect to be treated with all the Violence Severity can invent Would not this be a most impertinent and self-destroying Settlement questionless it would Yet this is the procedure of the Church of England Here take says she to all sound Members of the whole Christian Church this Holy Bible Read and Interpret it freely you can't but find out the Truth therein contain'd nor are you oblig'd to submit to any Authority under Heaven against your own Dictamen But if you presume to judge of matters therein contain'd contrary to my Sentiment thereof though you are as able and as free to judge as my self know that no Severity of the Law shall be spar'd in Chastizing you Is not this an admirable Liberty An unparallel'd Charity Millions who never were in themselves or their Ancestors Members of her Communion must be oblig'd against Conscience to come over to her and no body must presume to question her Authority because ipsa dicit and she shall inveigh against Roman Catholicks most violently for requiring that she return to the Union of the Church whose Member she had own'd her self for upwards of a thousand years Is not this a Paradox of Paradox's I must believe she had just reason to separate from the Church of Rome though if I read Scripture till Dooms-day I can find no ground for it I must blindfoldly believe no Subject in the Kingdom has just reason to remain out of her Communion That is I must believe no body but an English Protestant can be a sound Member of the Christian Church or a fit Judge in Controversy And that the Scripture has not for these thousand years been clear to any at all and at present is only so to an English Protestant Which if granted as granted it must be it evidently follows that our English Protestant is the most Uncharitable and Unconscionable Christian in the World. 6. Paradox The true Protestant believes that a Roman Catholick Prays to a Crucifix as well as to Christ himself and attributes as See Advice to the Pulpits the Repres Misrepres much satisfaction to it as to the Blood of his Redeemer That the Roman Catholick Saints were Canonized for Treasons detestable Villanies as a reward of strife and every evil Work That to be false and deceitful is meritorious and worthy of Eternal Life That with Money one may compound with Heaven for unforsaken sins and be absolved without being at all sorry for them That Indulgences serve instead of sanctification and good life Confession to carry on the Plots and projects of the Priests with a hundred such detestable Abominations True Protestant Ministers have laid out the Catholick Tenets under these foul colours for above these hundred years while the whole Body of Roman Catholicks and every Member of them disown condemn and execrate every point thereof in particular Now is it not a mysterious Paradox that a Minister of the Church of England should better understand our Catholick Tenets than the Council of Trent and the whole Body of the Catholick Clergy I do most solemnly protest See the Catechism of the Coun. of Trent in the presence of Almighty God that were these Doctrines and the like taught in the Roman Catholick Church as Protestants say they are I would not remain one hour in her Communion yet the Vulgar must believe it so and why Because it is for the Interest of the Protestant Clergy that the People should live in Apprehension and Horrour of Popery whether by false or true Reports it was always alike to the Protestant Teachers 7 Paradox Although it be evident that King Henry the Eighth never thought of laying the first stone of the Reformation pretended till he was refused by his Holiness the liberty of putting away his
Lawful Queen and that the Protector of Edward the Sixth who carried on the design had always in his eye the great Fortune he raised upon the Ruins of Abbys Priorys c. And that Queen Elizabeth had never perfected it was it not that she found it the only expedient for the making a Party to support the weakness or rather defect and nullity of her Title Altho' all the Promoters of this great Revolution were apparently invited by ample and rich Possessions of the Church and the Protestant Clergy entered into Possession of more than a Million of Catholick Revenues Altho' nothing be so clear as that the necessity of a handsom maintenance for Wife and Children mixt with a fear of being defam'd and ruin'd by the Party if they leave it be the chief invitation of the Ministers of the Church of England to remain in her Communion as many of them have own'd to me some of which I have reconcil'd Altho' experience hourly teaches that no Catholick ever calls for a Minister on his Death-bed to be received into the Protestant Communion Tho' Protestants daily send for Roman Catholick Priests in that Truth-discovering moment Yet our true Protestant believes this whole work of the Reformation to have been begun and carried on without Interest Prejudice or Passion and that there is a finger of God in the whole And that it is the Roman Catholick forsooth who in matters of Religion is guided by Interest while the Protestant is governed by pure Reason and sole Principles of Religion which if so our Reason is inverted our Judgment without Rule and all of us destitute of common Sense Can it be possible that any Considering Serious Sober Christian Reading this Paper with an unbyass'd Mind and indifferent Reason should do otherwise than doubt at least whether the Protestant Rule of Faith may be follow'd in the perillous journey of Eternity and whether he may not have the same reason to doubt as an Eminent Doctor of the Church of England had when giving me his Hand he said Sir you have by the Hand the Vnhappiest Man living I desir'd to know the reason of his Dissatisfaction I am says he a Member of a Church I know to be False and a Guide to other in a way I am sure will never Save them Why truly Dr. said I things standing so you have a great deal of reason to style your self Unhappy and ought in my judgment to provide a timely remedy he replyed That God was merciful and that he would think on 't in good time That there was one Impediment viz. A Wife which he must provide for that he had been Gentilely Educated and was now very acceptable to the Gentry as indeed he was and that to become a Catholick would ruine his Family That if he should quit his Benefice one of the best in our Country another might succeed who would do more harm and rail against the Truth more than he had done For his part he said he had never in his Life Preached against the Papists but twice which still lay upon his Conscience and it was for that he had been check'd by his Bishop for not doing it I replyed That all these specious Arguments would not prove a sufficient Plea at the day of Judgment He shrunck up his shoulders saying He served a God he hop'd would be as merciful to him as he had been to one of his Predecessors who was reconcil'd upon his Death-Bed I laboured to shew him the danger of that fallacious Discourse saying how he ought to call to mind that altho' a Thief on the right hand of our dying Saviour had found mercy yet another as near to his Redeemer had perished on the left and much to that purpose In the end he promised that the Spring following He would go to Rome and do as his Conscience obliged him nor could I obtain any more of him I returned soon after into Flanders and that very Winter the poor Gentleman died without any assistance It was as I take it upon the same occasion that he told me How he thought it impossible for any Schollar who was not blinded by false Principles of Education Interest Passion or Sensuality to read the Holy Scriptures and search into History without being convinced of the Roman Catholick Churches being the only way to Salvation and consequently of the nullity of all the pretended Reformations ADVERTISMENT I Have been obliged to prefix different Titles to this short Discourse by reason of the Endeavours I have Experienced to be used by Protestant Ministers to keep out of the Peoples hands all Books and Papers which might contribute to the dis-abusing a Nation the most imposed upon this day in Christendom FINIS
possible in reading of Scripture grounding himself on your Assertion of the last Ten Ages having produc'd nothing but Impostors and considering that all the Arguments you bring against Miracles in the Roman Church may equally be alledg'd against those of Moses and our Saviour should remain convinc'd that the Creation of the World the Wonders of Exodus and all the other surprizing Stories related in Holy Writ are meer Fables and consequently that Religion is only a pure invention of States-men Politickly devised to keep Mankind in aw and in fine question the very Being of a Deity Phil. Sir I have often told you Iudge no Man. Eu. So that Heretieal Blasphemous Anti-christian Diabolical Turkish Iewish Heathenish Atheistical Doctrines undergo no censure from a true Protestant than the which what can be granted more destructive to Christianity Unheard of PARADOXES following from the Protestant Rule of Faith. 1 Paradox WHen Luther's Conscience checkt him in the terms he expresseth a Lut. to Ger. fol. 9 to 2. Wittem 1562. alibi How often did my trembling heart beat within me and reprehending me object against me that most strong Argument art thou only wife Do so many Worlds Err Were so many Ages Ignorant What if thou Errest and drawest so many into Errour with thee to be damn'd Eternally And again b Luth. to 5. Wittem in Galat. fol. 290. in Coll. Mensal fol 273. Dost thou O sole Man and of no account take upon thee so great matters What if thou being but one offendest If God permit such so many and all to Err why may he not permit thee to Err. c Luth. to 7. Wittem an 1558. to 6. Ger. fol. 26. aliis in Locis Hitherto appertain those strong Arguments the Church the Fathers the Concils the Customs the Multitudes and Greatness of Wise Men who have taught the opposite Doctrine to mine d In col mensal 158. in prof in to Ger. f. 9. That I had never begun this business e That my Writings were burnt and bury'd in Eternal Oblivion A true Protestant believes that Luther did Prudently and Piously stifle all these remorses of his Conscience and that he was endu'd with the Spirit of God when he said f Tom. 5. Wittem an 1554. fol. 290. in Ep. ad Gal. c. Be it that the Church Austin and other Doctors also Peter and Paul yea that an Angel from Heaven teach otherwise yet is my Doctrine such as setteth forth God's only Glory Peter the chief of the Apostles did live and teach besides the word of God. Now dear Christian what Judgment can be more rash injurious and contrary to Christian Charity than to assert that so many Holy and Learned Doctors as have been and are confessed Papists and even the whole visible Church for the space of at least a thousand years could either ignorantly mistake or would wilfully forsake the true sense of God's word so clearly shining in Scripture as every petty Protestant doth pretend what so repugnant to Christian modesty and simplicity as for a Man to prefer his own private Opinion to the Decissions of General Councils Torrents of Fathers Clouds of Witnesses and the Universal Tradition of so many Ages 2 Paradox A true Protestant believes that Almighty God having a Loc. com Class 4. pag. 50. a design to Reform his Church made use of Luther haunted by the Devil from a Child to avoid whose molestations he became Religious and was quiet till he threw off his Habit and held Sacrilegious commerse with a Nun when again the Devil return'd really not imaginarily to him Of Calvin b Sclussel Hier. Bols an 1577. Defence of the censur fol. 81. 8. who besides the keeping a Gentleman of La-anna's Wife was sentenc'd at Noyon in France to be publickly branded in the Shoulder for sins not to be named as was Registred by Mr. Bertilier Secretary of the Council of Geneva under a sworn Notaries hand c Ibid. fol. 86. 87 c. Of Beza who liv'd in wickedness with Andebertus a Boy with Candida a Harlot who ran away with a Taylors Wife that dwelt in Calenderstreet in Paris and kept another Woman called Claudia whose Child he kill'd to cover the sin Of d See the Stat. an 28. Henic 7. 1536. Cranmer who two several times at least Marry'd King Henry the Eighth and as often declared the said Marriage Null e Dr. Heyl. Fox c. Besides his own marrying against his Oath when a Fellow at Cambridge and afterwards f Schi Angl. p. 216. when Bishop carried his Wench along with him in his Episcopal Visitations Of Poynet who went to Law with a Butcher for his Wife having then another Wife living Of g Bale of hemself Cent. 5. 245. Bale who was inspir'd to take a sweet-heart called Doll All of them men without Mission either Ordinary as not being sent by any Lawful Power upon Earth or Extraordinary that is particularly Delegated from Heaven as not having all of them together as Erasmus well objected power of Miracles even so far as to cure a Lame Horse And that they had neither command over Devils Gift of Tongues Spirit of Prophesy or any Supernatural Grace whatever Yet these men are believed by a true Protestant to have been Vessels of Election chosen by Almighty God to Reform the World men endu'd with a Divine Spirit and that Austin Apostle of our Countrey Boniface sent hence with Twelve Companions to the Conversion of Germany Willebrord sent with as many to the Conversion of Brabant Freez-land Izeland c. Monks of exquisite Learning Irreproachable Behaviour Unspotted Innocency Saint-like Conversation Gifted from above with all supernatural Graces Power of Miracles and most of which sealed their irreprehensible lives with a Glorious Martyrdom were Impostors or at least imposed upon Deceivers or deceived to have believ'd and taught a Doctrine to be Reformed by Martin Luther Calvin c. that Bucer Peter Martin c. having sacreligiously broken their tripple Vow made to God and coming into England with their debauched Nuns brought along with them the purity of the Primitive Church And that their Contemporary Xaverius leaving all his great Pretentions in Europe and sailing into the remotest parts of the East to Preach the Faith Gifted from Heaven with Power of curing all Diseases raising the dead casting out Devils endued with a high spirit of Prophesy Gift of Tongues and whom God prospered so far that he Converted from Paganism 12 Kingdoms by his Preaching and still savours by preserving his Innocent Unspotted and Chaste Body uncorrupt at Goa A true Protestant I say believes Bucer sent by God Xaverius by the spirit of Falshood If so let Protestants object no more that Catholicks require we deny our senses since they exact that we lay aside our Reason 3 Paradox A true Protestant believes that that Government would be the best Constituted in the World as being a perfect model of the