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A50624 Roma mendax, or, The falshood of Romes high pretences to infallibility and antiquity evicted in confutation of an anonymous popish pamphlet undertaking the defence of Mr. Dempster, Jesuit / by John Menzeis [i.e. Menzies] ... Menzeis, John, 1624-1684. 1675 (1675) Wing M1727; ESTC R16820 320,569 394

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lucifugas_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la what_o mean_v that_o of_o irenaeus_n lib._n 3._o cap._n 2._o cum_fw-la ex_fw-la scripture_n arguuntur_fw-la in_o accusationem_fw-la convertuntur_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la do_v not_o euseb_n lib._n 5._o hist_o cap._n ult_n testify_v that_o artemon_n the_o heretic_n do_v appeal_v to_o tradition_n pretend_v that_o his_o heresy_n viz._n that_o christ_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o mere_a man_n have_v a_o traditive_a conveyance_n from_o the_o apostle_n and_o that_o in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n also_o until_o pope_n victor_n time_n inclusiuè_fw-fr do_v not_o learned_a d_o morton_n in_o his_o appeal_n against_o b●eerly_a lib._n 2._o cap._n 25._o sect._n 12._o sect._n 39_o show_n that_o learned_a romanist_n aquinas_n bell._n sixtus_n senensis_n justus_n barronius_n delrio_n rhenanus_fw-la and_o m._n weston_n do_v confess_v that_o the_o most_o notorious_a and_o pestilent_a heretic_n such_o as_o the_o valentinian_o gnostic_n marcionite_n basilidian_o encratit_n severian_n manichee_n arrian_n carpocratian_o montanist_n donatist_n anabaptist_n etc._n etc._n refuse_v to_o be_v try_v only_o by_o canonical_a scripture_n and_o do_v shelter_v themselves_o under_o the_o pretext_n either_o of_o philosophical_a principle_n
gratian_n de_fw-mi consecrat_fw-mi do_v 2._o cap._n comperimus_fw-la make_v that_o decree_n ut_fw-la integra_fw-la recipiant_fw-la aut_fw-la ab_fw-la integris_fw-la arceantur_fw-la who_o please_v may_v find_v a_o army_n of_o testimony_n to_o this_o purpose_n in_o chamier_n tom_n 4._o lib._n 8._o cap._n 9_o what_o need_v i_o more_o the_o thing_n be_v acknowledge_v by_o adversary_n themselves_o as_o alphonsus_n a_o castro_n de_fw-fr haeres_fw-la do_fw-mi eucharistia_n haeres_fw-la 12._o cassander_n in_o consult_v art_n 22._o barnes_n in_o cathol_n rom._n pacifico_n sect._n 7._o picherel_n de_fw-fr missa_fw-la cap._n 4._o yea_o cassander_n say_v this_o be_v not_o only_o the_o way_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n to_o give_v it_o under_o both_o kind_n but_o also_o the_o roman_a above_o the_o space_n of_o a_o 1000_o year_n this_o be_v another_o of_o the_o romish_a novelty_n i_o have_v object_v to_o mr._n dempster_n pap._n 8._o pag._n 170._o and_o yet_o remain_v unanswered_a only_o this_o 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casaubon_n and_o spalat_n three_o the_o present_a romish_a church_n proceed_v further_o and_o prohibit_v the_o give_v of_o the_o cup_n to_o the_o people_n under_o pain_n of_o excommunication_n as_o i_o show_v from_o caranza_n but_o no_o romanist_n ever_o undertake_v to_o show_v a_o precedent_n for_o such_o a_o prohibition_n from_o antiquity_n four_o be_v false_o affirm_v by_o the_o pamphleter_n that_o denys_n cyprian_n tertul._n and_o euseb_n say_v that_o when_o the_o eucharist_n be_v give_v to_o infant_n sick_a or_o absent_a person_n restriction_n be_v make_v to_o one_o kind_n only_o far_o less_o to_o the_o species_n of_o bread_n alone_o that_o it_o be_v give_v to_o infant_n under_o both_o kind_n chamier_n tom_n 4._o lib._n 9_o cap._n 3._o prove_v from_o austin_n epist_n 107._o cyprian_a and_o genadius_fw-la yea_o bell._n do_v not_o allege_v that_o the_o bread_n only_o be_v give_v to_o infant_n but_o the_o cup._n the_o truth_n be_v they_o shall_v have_v have_v neither_o but_o sure_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o commmunicate_v with_o the_o people_n of_o god_n with_o this_o distinction_n from_o those_o of_o the_o clergy_n say_v durantus_n loc_fw-la cit_fw-la that_o they_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n extra_fw-la cancellos_fw-la &_o non_fw-la in_o sacratiori_fw-la loco_fw-la instance_n five_o the_o present_a roman_a church_n allow_v of_o private_a communion_n wherein_o the_o priest_n alone_o partake_v of_o the_o consecrate_a element_n and_o none_o else_o and_o anathematize_n they_o who_o judge_v that_o practice_n unlawful_a so_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n sess_v 22._o can_n 8._o but_o this_o be_v certain_o repugnant_a to_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n and_o to_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n as_o be_v demonstrate_v large_o by_o chamier_n tom_n 4._o lib._n 7._o cap._n 17.18.19_o from_o the_o ancient_a liturgy_n canon_n and_o council_n and_o suffrage_n of_o father_n yea_o this_o matter_n be_v so_o clear_a that_o their_o own_o author_n can_v but_o 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oblatum_n sacrificium_fw-la sine_fw-la communione_fw-la alicujus_fw-la vel_fw-la aliquorum_fw-la praeter_fw-la sacerdotom_n joannes_n hoffmeisterus_n