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A44087 The case of sees vacant by an unjust or uncanonical deprivation, stated in reply to a treatise entituled A vindication of the deprived bishops, &c. : together with the several other pamphlets lately publish'd as answers to the Baroccian treatise / by Humphry Hody ... Hody, Humphrey, 1659-1707. 1693 (1693) Wing H2339; ESTC R13783 282,258 245

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