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A35138 The catechist catechiz'd: or, Loyalty asserted in vindication of the oath of allegiance, against a new catechism set forth by a father of the Society of Jesus To which is annexed a decree, made by the fathers of the same Society, against the said oath: with animadversions upon it. By Adolphus Brontius, a Roman-Catholick. Cary, Edward, d. 1711.; England. Parliament. 1681 (1681) Wing C722; ESTC R222415 68,490 195

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