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A31234 A reply to the ansvver of the Catholiqve apology, or, A cleere vindication of the Catholiques of England from all matter of fact charg'd against them by their enemyes Castlemaine, Roger Palmer, Earl of, 1634-1705.; Pugh, Robert, 1609-1679. 1668 (1668) Wing C1246; ESTC R38734 114,407 289

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