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A20191 A pastime for parents: or A recreation to passe away the time; contayning the most principall grounds of Christian religion. By Arthur Dent preacher of the word of God at South-Shoobery in Essex. Dent, Arthur, d. 1607. 1606 (1606) STC 6622; ESTC S116342 31,603 114

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both in reason vnderstanding will and affections which is the very cause why we are so proone to euill and so vntoward to all goodnesse Father Doth God hate vs for this our naturall corruption Child As an Adder or a Toad is hated of man not so much for the euill it hath done as for the poyson that is in it and the hurt which it cannot but doe so God hateth vs not onely for the euill wée doe but for the euill which wée cannot but doe that is for our poysoned nature which is borne and bred with vs. Father Then you holde that our actuall transgressions doe not first make vs euill Child I hold so indéed For as the hurt which a venemous serpent doth maketh her not a serpent but because shée is a serpent shée poysoneth and hurteth so our euill déedes doe not first make vs euill but because wée are of nature euill therefore wée thinke and doe euill Father Doe you thinke that this originall contagion is wholly in euery particular man or that one man hath one part of it and another man another and so part it among them part and part like Child I thinke thus that as euery man receiued from Adam the whole nature of man so also hée receiued the whole corruption and is cloathed with it as a beast with a skinne his whole nature both bodie soule being oppressed with it as a most infectious leprosie and therefore euery man hath in him from his parents the séede of all sinne which is a naturall disposition pronenesse to commit any sinne whatsoeuer For the spawne of all the horrible sinnes that are practised in the world are in that man which is thought to bée best disposed by nature Father But experience teacheth that some euen by nature are more ciuill gentle and tractable then others Child This commeth to passe not because some men are by nature lesse wicked then others but béecause God by his prouidence doth limit and restraine mens corruptions more or lesse which hée doth for the good of mankinde for if men were wholly left to themselues corruption would so excéedingly break out into all manner of villanies that there should bée no liuing in the world Father It seemeth by this that man is a most contagious and vile nature Child The nature of man in regard of the corruption thereof is the worst of all natures except the Diuell yea worse then the nature of beasts as Lions Woolues Dogs Swine c. for there is in mans nature some thing of euery beasts nature For hée is proud as the Lyon cruell as the Woolue greedy as the Dogge craftie as the For filthy as the Swine leacherous as the Goat c. For looke what degrée of goodnesse wée had in our first creation in Adam the same degrée of euill haue wée in the corruption of our nature by his fall Father But is this naturall corruption alwaies liuely and operatiue in vs I meane in continuall action and operation doth it not sometimes lye dead in vs and cease to worke Child It is alwayes aliue and woorking except where it is kept downe by speciall grace and there also it will not bée held downe one minute longer then speciall grace woorketh and preuayleth in the soule For so soone as the thought or action of grace is out the thought and action of sinne is in Our concupiscence is like a crabbe trée which bringeth foorth alwayes sowre fruit or like an vntilled field which bringeth foorth nothing but wéedes or a lusty strong horse pricked with prouender that carieth his rider headlong ouer hedge and ditch Father But put the case a man should haue no outward obiection to mooue him nor externall prouocations to allure him Doe you not then thinke that this naturall infection would lye dead in him and cease to worke Child Concupiscence would shew it selfe though men were shut vp alone in closets betwéene stonewals where they could haue no externall prouocations yea though there were no Diuell or that the Diuell were chained vp Father Whether then doe you thinke that the Diuell or our corrupt nature are greater enemies to our saluation Or whether doth more euill spring out of our currupt nature then from the diuels suggestion Child First I answere that our corruption is a stronger enemie against vs then Sathan and consequently our selues greater enemies to our selues then the diuell for wée haue no such enemy as our selues and secondly that more greater euill doth spring from our corrupt nature then from Sathans instigation And all this S. Iames doth affirme saying Euery man is tempted when he is drawen away by his owne concupiscence and entised It is the concupiscence that doth first both draw away and entice as for the Diuell he doth but worke vpon our concupiscence and is as it were the bellowes to blow it and fire it without the which he could not come within vs to doe any thing against vs. Father Doe you then thinke that the diuell cannot worke immediately or sine medijs without meanes vpon the soule or heart of man Child I thinke so indéed But that which the Diuell doth vpon the heart is by the externall sences and outward obiects by reason of the hypostaticall vnion betwixt the soule and the bodie for hée worketh and pierceth through the body to affect the soule by reason of the naturall sympathy Father But doth this birth-corruption remaine in the very elect after their regeneration Child Yes vndoubtedly and the children of God haue greatest féeling of it and are most troubled with it and grieued for it strugling with it by all good meanes to suppresse it and kéepe it vnder for sure it is that euen after the people of GOD are iustified and sanctified and assured of eternall life yet they haue their hands full and as wée say towe inough to their Rocke to snib and nippe of those manifolde blossonies and fruites of corruption which dayly and hourely arise and spring vp in their nature For as fast as one is pinched and nipt in the head an other foorthwith springeth and sprouteth out Not vnlike the Monster Hydra with seauen heads that the Heathen write of which hauing one of them cut off seauen others did arise in the stead of it And thus wée sée that the very Elect of GOD haue an endlesse trouble and as wée say worke enough cut out for as long as they liue to repayre this rent and torne nature For alas alas though GOD forgiue vs our sinnes yet doth hée not nor will hée in this life frée vs of naturall corruption Father Is not the knowledge and feeling of this a great corsey and heart smart to the most deare children of God Child Yes verely For there is nothing that doth so sorely pinch them at the heart as the consideration of this which indéede maketh them wearie of their life weary of the world and weary of all and often wish with the Apostle to bée dissolued and to bée