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now_o in_o hell_n see_v you_o seem_v to_o believe_v no_o torment_n for_o damn_a soul_n save_v only_o at_o the_o resurrection_n for_o thus_o you_o reason_n 25_o reason_n pag._n 25_o as_o the_o body_n have_v be_v the_o instrument_n of_o the_o soul_n pleasure_n in_o sin_n so_o it_o shall_v be_v of_o her_o pain_n 20â—_n pain_n pag._n 20â—_n but_o all_o provocation_n and_o pleasure_n of_o sin_n the_o soul_n take_v from_o her_o body_n all_o act_n of_o sin_n she_o commit_v by_o her_o body_n therefore_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n both_o temporal_o and_o eternal_o punish_v the_o soul_n only_o by_o the_o body_n or_o therefore_o all_o the_o soul_n pain_n for_o sin_n both_o temporal_o &_o eternal_o be_v by_o the_o body_n this_o be_v your_o own_o reason_n which_o be_v true_a why_o shall_v you_o care_v for_o corporal_a fire_n in_o hell_n before_o the_o last_o judgement_n your_o strive_v to_o 34â—_n to_o pag._n 34â—_n confute_v my_o allegation_n of_o father_n i_o hope_v i_o have_v refute_v 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i_o avouch_v that_o 8â—_n that_o treat_n â—_o pag_n 8â—_n only_o the_o hot_a and_o cunning_a papist_n jesuit_n priest_n &_o friar_n have_v always_o until_o this_o day_n have_v this_o controversy_n with_o all_o protestant_n and_o all_o protestant_n against_o they_o &_o namely_o bellarmin_n campian_n english_a rhemist_n etc._n etc._n to_o all_o this_o scanalous_a &_o suspicious_a argument_n you_o reply_v not_o a_o syllable_n what_o shall_v we_o think_v of_o such_o doctrine_n which_o in_o this_o learned_a age_n have_v none_o but_o such_o defender_n and_o yet_o among_o the_o papist_n i_o note_v 2_o cusanus_fw-la and_o ferus_fw-la as_o like_v of_o the_o protestant_n doctrine_n herein_o which_o also_o they_o do_v in_o some_o other_o matter_n now_o these_o 2._o and_o only_o these_o though_o more_o there_o be_v c_o you_o cite_v at_o large_a 140.141_o 〈◊〉_d 140.141_o who_o word_n indeed_o especial_o the_o friar_n seem_v excessive_a but_o our_o own_o most_o worthy_a and_o learned_a teacher_n d_o m._n fulke_o 88_o â—rea_fw-la 1._o p._n 88_o m._n deering_n m._n whitaker_n which_o against_o you_o i_o allege_v you_o vouchsafe_v not_o a_o look_n towards_o they_o nor_o to_o m._n nowel_n catechism_n nor_o to_o the_o synod_n authorise_v it_o 42._o â—efore_o pag._n 42._o nor_o to_o the_o archb_n great_a *_o approbation_n thereof_o not_o to_o our_o common_a bible_n note_n authorize_v public_o to_o be_v read_v through_o out_o england_n only_o against_o my_o allege_v of_o our_o homily_n e_o you_o take_v exception_n 355._o pag_n 355._o but_o i_o trust_v i_o have_v before_o full_o and_o clear_o defend_v they_o to_o be_v for_o we_o and_o against_o you_o neither_o do_v any_o such_o matter_n appear_v in_o they_o as_o f_o you_o avouch_v 136._o pag._n 136._o thus_o than_o i_o end_v our_o 1._o question_n be_v sorry_a that_o i_o have_v be_v so_o long_o but_o i_o trust_v the_o friendly_a reader_n will_v pardon_v i_o consider_v how_o i_o have_v be_v occasion_v thereunto_o a_o brief_a collection_n contain_v the_o whole_a effect_n of_o our_o doctrine_n before_o deliver_v bring_v into_o 4._o assertion_n god_n himself_o in_o his_o justice_n proper_o punish_v christ_n for_o our_o sin_n see_v pag._n 8._o 9_o 75._o 82._o christ_n even_o as_o other_o man_n consist_v of_o a_o perfect_a humane_a immortal_a spirit_n and_o a_o mortal_a live_a body_n and_o so_o be_v by_o nature_n capable_a of_o suffer_v sorrow_n for_o sin_n from_o god_n hand_n aswell_o in_o his_o spirit_n peculiarly_a and_o proper_o as_o also_o in_o his_o soul_n and_o body_n together_o since_o other_o man_n do_v thus_o suffer_v for_o sin_n pag._n 8._o 48_o 52._o 61._o 74._o god_n exact_a and_o immutable_a justice_n spare_v his_o son_n in_o nothing_o but_o do_v punish_v he_o in_o all_o severity_n as_o he_o punish_v sinner_n i_o mean_v he_o punish_v he_o in_o all_o his_o part_n of_o nature_n apt_a to_o suffer_v that_o be_v in_o his_o spirit_n peculiarly_a and_o proper_o and_o in_o his_o soul_n and_o body_n together_o also_o again_o god_n punish_v he_o with_o all_o the_o whole_a general_n curse_v not_o with_o all_o the_o particular_a curse_n and_o punishment_n with_o the_o general_n curse_v in_o all_o the_o whole_a nature_n and_o substance_n of_o it_o not_o with_o all_o the_o circumstance_n with_o all_o the_o mere_a pain_n and_o sorrow_n thereof_o not_o with_o the_o sinful_a adherent_n and_o concomitant_n in_o it_o pag._n 8_o 13_o 74_o 86._o god_n exact_a &_o immutable_a justice_n spare_v not_o christ_n in_o these_o circumstance_n of_o punishment_n with_o he_o suffer_v not_o for_o either_o in_o exact_a justice_n he_o can_v not_o or_o necessary_o he_o need_v not_o to_o punish_v he_o so_o in_o exact_a justice_n he_o can_v not_o punish_v christ_n in_o such_o respect_n as_o be_v simple_o and_o absolute_o impossible_a it_o be_v simple_o impossible_a that_o any_o touch_n of_o sin_n shall_v once_o come_v near_o his_o person_n or_o eternal_a suffering_n or_o all_o the_o particular_a punishment_n in_o the_o world_n 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his_o word_n therefore_o so_o we_o profess_v and_o so_o we_o believe_v by_o the_o certain_a rule_n of_o god_n word_n and_o the_o proportion_n of_o faith_n christ_n shun_v for_o our_o sake_n nothing_o which_o the_o damn_a suffer_v except_o only_a circumstance_n and_o accident_n impossible_a or_o unnecessary_a not_o any_o substantial_a point_n of_o god_n punishment_n decree_v against_o sinew_n pag_n 13._o 14._o 16._o 43._o 66._o 75._o 87._o 134._o 135._o that_o christ_n after_o his_o death_n on_o the_o cross_n go_v not_o down_o into_o hell_n in_o his_o soul_n the_o 2._o part_n of_o our_o controversy_n be_v this_o that_o christ_n after_o his_o death_n on_o the_o cross_n go_v not_o down_o into_o hell_n in_o his_o soul_n where_o note_n first_o notes_n notes_n that_o we_o understand_v hell_n proper_o and_o local_o as_o our_o common_a speech_n in_o english_a do_v usual_o take_v it_o for_o the_o very_a place_n of_o the_o damn_a after_o this_o life_n now_o against_o they_o that_o believe_v christ_n soul_n do_v go_v down_o local_o into_o hell_n thus_o i_o reason_n hell_n reason_n against_o châ—â—_n descend_v local_o be_v hell_n first_o if_o there_o be_v a_o good_a and_o sound_a general_a reason_n in_o christian_a faith_n that_o christ_n soul_n leave_v his_o body_n ascend_v up_o to_o heaven_n and_o there_o remain_v till_o his_o resurrection_n and_o if_o there_o be_v no_o special_a reason_n of_o authority_n to_o the_o contrary_a that_o his_o soul_n now_o descend_v downward_o then_o sure_o every_o good_a christian_n ought_v to_o believe_v that_o his_o soul_n ascend_v to_o heaven_n and_o descend_v not_o local_o into_o hell_n note_a two_o maâ—â—_n point_n to_o note_a but_o both_o those_o former_a point_n be_v most_o true_a first_o there_o be_v a_o good_a sound_n general_a reason_n in_o christian_a
faith_n that_o christ_n soul_n after_o death_n ascend_v to_o heaven_n &_o remain_v there_o till_o his_o resurrection_n namely_o the_o analogy_n of_o faith_n require_v that_o the_o head_n shall_v be_v there_o where_o the_o member_n be_v and_o where_o they_o remain_v till_o their_o resurrection_n that_o there_o he_o tarry_v till_o his_o resurrection_n it_o seem_v also_o these_o text_n will_v prove_v it_o 1â—_n it_o joh._n 1â—_n where_o i_o be_o there_o also_o shall_v my_o servant_n be_v 17_o be_v cap._n 17_o i_o will_v that_o where_o i_o be_o there_o they_o also_o shall_v be_v with_o i_o i_o see_v not_o but_o that_o he_o promise_v here_o his_o servant_n even_o a_o local_a accompany_v of_o he_o after_o this_o life_n &_o that_o also_o general_o whither_o soever_o he_o go_v moreover_o this_o the_o father_n dâ—â—ting_v father_n only_o aâ—_n waver_v where_o affirm_v foâ—_n where_o dâ—â—ting_v all_o with_o one_o voice_n i_o may_v true_o affirm_v do_v teach_v and_o believe_v even_o that_o 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there_o where_o the_o holy_a patriarch_n decease_v be_v &_o there_o remain_v till_o his_o resurrection_n so_o that_o how_o you_o will_v do_v to_o maintain_v that_o christ_n c_o go_v indeed_o unto_o they_o 220.361_o 〈◊〉_d 220.361_o but_o present_o leave_v they_o that_o he_o may_v go_v to_o hell_n i_o know_v not_o in_o this_o i_o doubt_v you_o walk_v f_o without_o your_o guide_n 91._o â—â—g_v 91._o but_o to_o proceed_v i_o add_v that_o which_o be_v a_o clear_a and_o certain_a 219._o 〈◊〉_d 189.193_o 〈◊〉_d 219._o yea_o that_o which_o g_o yourself_o right_o believe_v and_o profess_v with_o we_o though_o against_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o father_n that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o holy_a patriarch_n dead_a before_o christ_n be_v not_o beneath_o but_o above_o not_o in_o limbo_n but_o with_o god_n in_o peace_n joy_n &_o blissee_fw-fr even_n in_o paradise_n 192.203_o 〈◊〉_d 192.203_o that_o be_v h_o heaven_n the_o which_o to_o be_v a_o doctrine_n most_o true_a against_o the_o popish_a error_n 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