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A85416 Some modest and humble queries concerning a printed paper, intituled, An ordinance presented to the Honourable House of Commons, &c. for the preventing of the growing and spreading of heresies, &c. Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665. 1646 (1646) Wing G1204; Thomason E355_1; ESTC R201102 8,784 15

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Questions and cases as these especially over and against such men to the bereaving of them either of life or libertie who are knowne to be men of able parts and to have made the study of Divinity their sole imployment all their dayes being otherwise grave and sober and conscientious men in all their wayes Whether these two opinions both of them attainded for errors and made equally punishable by the ordinance 1o That the morrall Law contained in the ten Commandements is no rule of a Christian life 2o That the observation of the Lords day as it is enjoyned by the Ordinances and Lawes of this Realme is not according or contrary to the word of God can possibly be both errors or justly punishable since the Observation of the Lords day as it is enjoyned by the Ordinances and Lawes of this Realme is no where to be found in the Morall Law contained in the ten Commandements this Law requiring the observation of another day differing from that the observation whereof is injoyned by the Ordinances and Lawes of this Realme Or if the Law contained in the ten Commandements be the rule of a Christian life whether doe they walke Christianly who doe not conforme themselves unto it nay who place a great part of their Christianity in walking if not contrary to it yet quite beside it as all they doe who observe the Lords day as it is injoyned by the Ordinances and Laws of this Realme and celebrate the two Sacraments Baptisme and the Loods Supper mentioned likewise in the Ordinance Whether doth the Ordinance making this a punishable errour to hold that a man by nature hath free will to turne unto God by this expression of having free will to turne unto God intend to grant any will at all in men by nature to turne unto God though much incumbred and oppressed with corruption and indisposition to such an act and in that respect meaneth that it is not free or else to denie all and all manner of will in men in respect of this act so that when God purposeth to make men willing to turne to him he must create a new facultie of will in him as also a new disposition or propension in this will whereby it may be freely carried upon this act of conversion What does the Ordinance mean by blasph●ming the name of God or any of the Holy Trinity doth it mean any kinde or degree of sin against the third Commandement or any and every kinde of swearing as by Faith Troth or the like so that upon the second offence committed in this kinde after and contrary to admonition the party offending is to suffer death or doth it by blaspheming the name of God c. intend onely the highest kindes of Blasphemy as the calling of God or of Jesus Christ accursed wicked unjust unfaithfull c What doth the Ordinance mean by impugning the word of God doth it mean the opposing by way of argument and discourse every truth contained and delivered in the Word of God or onely the proposall and inforcement of such reasons and grounds the tendency whereof is to prove it indefinitly taken and considered not to be the Word of God In what sence doth the Ordinance make it erroneous and punishable to hold that God seeth no sin in the justified inasmuch as there is a sence if not more then one wherein it is most certainly true that God seeth no sin in such persons a In what sence doth the Ordinance adjudge it an error worthy to be punished and that with no lesse than perpetuall imprisonment in case it be not abjured to hold and maintain that a man is bound to beleeve no more than by his reason hee can comprehend Doth it intend to make men of this Faith that they are bound in conscience to beleeve more than they can comprehend that is cleerly and fully conceive any reason why they should beleeve If so then how much or to what proportion of object are they bound to beleeve beyond what they are able to comprehend by reason sufficient cleer grounds of beleeving Are they bound to beleeve in this kinde I mean beyond what they are able to comprehend by reason without measure bounds or limits If so are they bound to beleeve all things without exception that shall any wayes or by any hand be presented unto them Or if Reason ought not to regulate or limit men about the object or matter of their beleeving then are they bound to beleeve those things concerning which there is no ground or reason at all why they should be beleeved If so whether is Divine Revelation or the asserting of things by God any ground or reason comprehensible in that relation by that faculty of Reason or understanding in a man for the beleeving of all things so revealed and asserted If so whether is not Reason able to comprehend and judge of all things required by God as necessary to be beleeved so farre as they are necessary to be beleeved i. e as farre as they are revealed by God Or is any man bound to beleeve that concerning which it is unpossible for him or any man to comprehend or conceive any reason why it should be a Truth and consequently worthy or meet to be beleeved Or what instance can be given in any particular branch of the object of Faith which ought to be beleeved and yet is unpossible to be comprehended by Reason that it is a Truth Or whether ought any man at least in sensu composito to beleeve the deepest or highest mystery in Religion any further or any otherwise then as and as farre as he hath Reason to judge it to be a Truth What doth the Ordinance mean by publishing Doctrines with obstinacy Doth it mean a publishing of them contrary to the will pleasure or prohibition of the Assembly of Divines or of any particular man whether they shew unto the Assertors or Publishers of such Doctrines any sufficient reason to convince them or no Or what kinde or manner of Reasons doth it intend those shall be upon the tender whereof either by the said Assembly or others the publisher of the Doctrines shall be judged obstinate in case he shall still publish them Or if by publishing with obstinacy be meant a publishing contrary to the desires or injunctions of men without any sufficient reason given of their desires or injunctions in this kinde then in what sense or notion doth the Ordinance understand the word Obstinacy or how many desires prohibitions or injunctions of men to the contrary must precede and be administred before a man shall according to meaning and intent of the Ordinance be said to publish a Doctrine obstinately Whereas the said Ordinance maketh it an error and the publishing of it punishable with imprisonment to hold that Government by Presbytery is unlawfull whether doth it mean that Government by Presbytery which the Parliament hath established or that Government by Presbytery which is so importunely desired