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The second part of the vanity & childishnes of infants baptisme wherein the grounds from severall Scriptures usually brought for to justifie the same, are urged and answered. As also the nature of the divers covenants made with Abraham and his seed, briefly opened and applied. A.R. May 3. 1642.; Treatise of the vanity of childish baptisme. Part 2
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Ritor, Andrew.
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Wing R1541; Thomason E59_5; ESTC R3120
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holiness_n or_o unholinesse_n of_o the_o parent_n but_o from_o the_o lawful_a or_o unlawful_a conjunction_n of_o the_o parent_n in_o the_o beget_n of_o their_o child_n for_o the_o apostle_n in_o this_o place_n speak_v of_o all_o man_n universal_o obj._n it_o seem_v then_o by_o this_o that_o the_o holiness_n here_o of_o the_o child_n arise_v not_o from_o the_o faith_n or_o holiness_n of_o the_o parent_n but_o mere_o from_o the_o lawful_a marriage_n and_o conjunction_n of_o the_o parent_n in_o beget_v their_o child_n ans_fw-fr it_o be_v even_o so_o for_o the_o question_n or_o doubt_n be_v only_a whither_o they_o may_v put_v away_o or_o depart_v from_o their_o unbelieved_a yoke-mate_n the_o which_o the_o apostle_n answer_v that_o they_o ought_v not_o to_o put_v they_o away_o and_o he_o imply_v this_o reason_n because_o they_o be_v lawful_o marry_v unto_o they_o according_a unto_o god_n ordinance_n and_o this_o he_o back_n with_o a_o double_a reason_n first_o because_o their_o unbelieved_a yoke-mate_n be_v sanctify_v to_o their_o use_n second_o because_o their_o child_n beget_v in_o that_o state_n be_v legitimate_a and_o holy_a on_o the_o other_o side_n if_o they_o be_v not_o so_o lawful_o marry_v to_o they_o than_o these_o three_o conclusion_n will_v follow_v first_o they_o will_v not_o be_v sanctify_v to_o they_o second_o their_o child_n will_v be_v unclean_a and_o bastard_n three_o they_o may_v and_o ought_v to_o put_v they_o away_o obj._n but_o what_o holiness_n have_v the_o unbelieved_a wife_n see_v in_o some_o translation_n it_o be_v render_v that_o she_o be_v sanctify_v by_o the_o believe_a husband_n which_o seem_v to_o be_v more_o then_o to_o be_v sanctify_v to_o the_o believe_a husband_n ans_fw-fr that_o which_o be_v sanctify_v to_o a_o believer_n be_v unsanctified_a to_o a_o unbeliever_n must_v needs_o be_v sanctify_v unto_o he_o by_o his_o believe_a and_o so_o the_o meaning_n be_v all_o one_o and_o may_v be_v express_v thus_o the_o unbelieved_a wife_n be_v sanctify_v unto_o the_o believe_a husband_n by_o or_o through_o his_o believe_v obj._n why_o may_v not_o then_o the_o wife_n be_v admit_v to_o baptism_n and_o church_n fellowship_n with_o her_o husband_n see_v she_o be_v make_v holy_a by_o his_o believe_v ans_fw-fr not_o so_o for_o she_o be_v no_o otherwise_o sanctify_v then_o servant_n and_o all_o other_o lawful_a thing_n be_v sanctify_v to_o a_o believer_n use_v in_o which_o sense_n likewise_o his_o cattle_n and_o beast_n be_v holy_a and_o sanctify_a for_o to_o the_o pure_a or_o believer_n all_o lawful_a thing_n be_v pure_a and_o holy_a by_o which_o reason_n all_o these_o may_v as_o well_o be_v admit_v for_o all_o these_o be_v holy_a in_o one_o and_o the_o same_o sense_n obj._n but_o here_o they_o object_n and_o say_v have_v the_o child_n of_o believer_n no_o more_o privilege_n than_o the_o child_n of_o heathen_a turk_n and_o infidel_n ans_fw-fr to_o which_o i_o answer_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n and_o salutation_n none_o at_o all_o for_o this_o come_v not_o by_o any_o natural_a birth_n but_o only_o by_o a_o new_a birth_n of_o the_o spirit_n and_o the_o spirit_n blow_v where_o it_o lu_v jo._n 3._o 7._o 8._o and_o god_n be_v no_o respecter_n of_o person_n but_o in_o every_o nation_n he_o that_o fear_v god_n and_o work_v righteousness_n be_v accept_v of_o he_o act._n 10._o 34_o 35._o yet_o notwithstanding_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o mean_n of_o salvation_n their_o privilege_n in_o have_v believe_a parent_n be_v far_o more_o than_o those_o that_o have_v not_o for_o believe_a parent_n may_v be_v a_o mean_n to_o bring_v their_o child_n to_o the_o knowledge_n and_o faith_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o so_o be_v instrument_n of_o their_o salvation_n as_o saint_n paul_n say_v here_o the_o believe_a husband_n may_v save_v his_o unbelieved_a wife_n 4._o the_o four_o scripture_n be_v that_o which_o speak_v of_o christ_n command_a little_a chrildren_n to_o be_v bring_v unto_o he_o and_o say_v that_o of_o such_o be_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n hence_o therefore_o some_o reason_n the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n belong_v to_o little_a child_n why_o not_o the_o seal_n 1._o to_o this_o i_o answer_v first_o that_o if_o infant_n have_v right_a to_o one_o of_o the_o seal_n if_o we_o may_v so_o call_v they_o then_o to_o both_o to_o the_o supper_n as_o well_o as_o to_o baptism_n but_o here_o they_o say_v not_o to_o the_o supper_n until_o they_o be_v able_a to_o examine_v themselves_o which_o be_v require_v of_o all_o that_o receive_v the_o supper_n to_o this_o i_o answer_v so_o faith_n and_o repentance_n be_v require_v of_o all_o that_o be_v baptize_v but_o here_o they_o say_v that_o these_o be_v require_v only_o of_o man_n of_o year_n not_o of_o infant_n who_o be_v not_o able_a to_o perform_v they_o and_o the_o very_a same_o be_v my_o answer_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o supper_n that_o examination_n be_v require_v only_o of_o man_n of_o year_n and_o not_o of_o infant_n who_o be_v not_o able_a to_o perform_v it_o beside_o if_o neither_o my_o author_n nor_o memory_n fail_v i_o child_n cross_n parker_n on_o the_o cross_n be_v admit_v as_o well_o to_o the_o supper_n as_o to_o baptism_n for_o many_o year_n in_o time_n past_a and_o why_o not_o as_o well_o to_o the_o one_o as_o to_o the_o other_o see_v the_o same_o reason_n be_v alike_o in_o both_o and_o will_v centre_n into_o one_o if_o full_o prosecute_v for_o as_o no_o infant_n be_v require_v by_o god_n in_o scripture_n to_o believe_v or_o repent_v so_o likewise_o no_o infant_n be_v require_v to_o be_v baptize_v nor_o be_v any_o man_n any_o where_o require_v by_o god_n to_o baptize_v a_o infant_n and_o the_o same_o may_v be_v say_v in_o respect_n of_o examination_n and_o receive_v the_o supper_n second_o i_o answer_v that_o this_o reason_n be_v ground_v upon_o a_o great_a mistake_n of_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o text_n for_o the_o word_n be_v not_o unto_o they_o belong_v the_o kingdom_n but_o of_o such_o be_v the_o kingdom_n that_o be_v of_o none_o else_o but_o of_o such_o as_o the_o next_o word_n which_o follow_v in_o these_o text_n do_v manifest_o declare_v for_o in_o luke_n 18._o 17._o mark_v 10._o 15._o in_o both_o place_n where_o christ_n have_v say_v suffer_v little_a child_n to_o come_v unto_o i_o for_o of_o such_o be_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n he_o present_o confirm_v it_o in_o the_o next_o word_n thus_o very_o i_o say_v unto_o you_o whosoever_o shall_v not_o receive_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n as_o a_o little_a child_n shall_v not_o enter_v therein_o as_o also_o in_o matth._n 18._o 34._o christ_n speak_v to_o his_o disciple_n say_v except_o you_o be_v convert_v and_o become_v as_o little_a child_n you_o shall_v not_o enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n whosoever_o therefore_o shall_v humble_v himself_o as_o this_o little_a child_n the_o same_o be_v the_o great_a in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n whereby_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o when_o christ_n say_v of_o such_o be_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n his_o meaning_n be_v not_o of_o they_o nor_o of_o such_o as_o they_o in_o age_n nor_o understanding_n 1_o cor._n 14._o 20._o but_o of_o such_o as_o they_o in_o humility_n and_o such_o like_a qualification_n then_o they_o say_v that_o christ_n take_v they_o up_o in_o his_o arm_n lay_v his_o hand_n on_o they_o and_o bless_v they_o 1._o to_o which_o i_o first_o answer_n that_o all_o this_o be_v not_o baptise_v they_o for_o christ_n baptize_v not_o io._n 4._o 2._o and_o therefore_o this_o place_n seem_v not_o at_o all_o to_o prove_v the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n 2._o second_o i_o say_v let_v they_o that_o please_v do_v as_o here_o christ_n do_v yet_o much_o rather_o let_v we_o all_o learn_v the_o lesson_n which_o christ_n here_o teach_v without_o which_o we_o can_v be_v save_v but_o we_o quite_o pervert_v christ_n meaning_n do_v in_o another_o sense_n become_v little_a child_n for_o some_o at_o first_o have_v no_o soon_o hence_o sound_v out_o this_o tune_n in_o our_o ear_n that_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n belong_v to_o little_a child_n and_o therefore_o baptism_n but_o we_o all_o present_o like_o little_a child_n dance_v after_o this_o pipe_n as_o though_o our_o head_n be_v light_a than_o our_o heel_n and_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n loose_v the_o true_a sense_n the_o marrow_n and_o fatness_n of_o these_o text_n which_o so_o much_o do_v concern_v we_o and_o thus_o it_o be_v not_o only_o in_o these_o text_n but_o in_o many_o more_o insomuch_o that_o we_o through_o this_o our_o childish_a if_o not_o brutish_a follow_v the_o hear_v of_o interpreter_n from_o humane_a authority_n rather_o take_v many_o gross_a error_n for_o undeniable_a principle_n then_o once_o open_v our_o eye_n to_o see_v and_o
promise_n do_v only_o belong_v under_o the_o term_n seed_n for_o if_o it_o be_v otherwise_o then_o must_v they_o be_v comprehend_v gen._n 17._o 7_o 8._o under_o the_o term_v thou_o and_o then_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o phrase_n to_o wit_n and_o to_o thy_o seed_n will_v be_v in_o vain_a and_o superfluous_a which_o to_o think_v be_v very_o irrational_a but_o put_v case_n it_o be_v grant_v they_o to_o be_v father_n as_o they_o desire_v to_o be_v like_a to_o abraham_n then_o must_v they_o be_v father_n of_o only_a such_o as_o believe_v and_o not_o until_o they_o believe_v for_o according_a to_o the_o tenor_n of_o this_o new_a covenant_n and_o in_o the_o gospel_n sense_n abraham_n himself_o be_v father_n of_o none_o other_o nor_o otherwise_o and_o then_o be_v they_o father_n of_o their_o own_o child_n not_o otherwise_o then_o they_o be_v father_n of_o jew_n and_o turk_n child_n which_o be_v when_o they_o believe_v and_o not_o before_o and_o then_o let_v they_o baptize_v all_o such_o their_o child_n warrantable_o hence_o therefore_o i_o affirm_v that_o puplican_n and_o harlot_n may_v be_v the_o seed_n and_o have_v as_o much_o right_n to_o baptism_n as_o any_o believer_n seed_n or_o as_o any_o of_o abraham_n own_o natural_a seed_n for_o all_o and_o every_o of_o these_o must_v first_o repent_v and_o then_o be_v baptize_v act._n 2._o 38._o and_o upon_o the_o same_o term_n may_v any_o yea_o the_o most_o wicked_a in_o the_o world_n and_o their_o seed_n be_v baptize_v for_o the_o partition_n wall_n be_v now_o break_v down_o the_o gospel_n know_v no_o difference_n between_o any_o but_o be_v to_o be_v preach_v to_o every_o creature_n in_o all_o the_o world_n and_o whosoever_o believe_v and_o be_v baptise_a shall_v be_v save_v mar._n 16._o 15_o 16._o and_o go_v make_v disciple_n all_o nation_n baptise_v they_o mat._n 28._o 19_o for_o to_o christ_n jesus_n neither_o circumcision_n avayl_v any_o tâ—ing_n nor_o uncircumcision_n but_o a_o new_a creature_n gal._n 6._o 15._o and_o if_o any_o be_v christ_n than_o they_o be_v abraham_n seed_n and_o heir_n according_a to_o promise_n gal._n 8._o 29._o and_o no_o otherwise_o ought_v any_o to_o challenge_v to_o be_v the_o seed_n or_o to_o have_v interest_n to_o the_o promise_n or_o grace_n of_o the_o gospel_n all_o which_o consider_v i_o then_o demand_v of_o they_o in_o cold_a blood_n how_o they_o themselves_o do_v become_v abraham_n seed_n they_o will_v say_v only_o by_o faith_n then_o dare_v i_o say_v their_o child_n must_v become_v the_o same_o seed_n by_o the_o same_o way_n and_o no_o other_o for_o abraham_n have_v not_o two_o sort_n of_o seed_n in_o the_o sense_n and_o acceptation_n of_o he_o gospel_n they_o further_a reason_n from_o the_o equity_n of_o circumcision_n thus_o as_o infant_n then_o by_o god_n allowance_n receive_v that_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n so_o by_o proportion_n why_o not_o this_o now_o of_o baptism_n to_o which_o i_o answer_v god_n command_v abraham_n to_o circumcise_v all_o the_o male_n in_o his_o house_n and_o every_o male_a child_n at_o eight_o day_n old_a as_o well_o he_o that_o be_v bear_v in_o his_o house_n as_o he_o that_o be_v buy_v with_o money_n of_o any_o strange_a that_o be_v not_o of_o his_o seed_n now_o it_o be_v both_o right_a and_o equal_a that_o abraham_n shall_v do_v herein_o as_o god_n have_v command_v he_o and_o it_o have_v be_v sinful_a for_o he_o to_o have_v do_v otherwise_o more_o or_o less_o and_o so_o likewise_o it_o be_v right_a for_o we_o to_o do_v as_o god_n have_v command_v we_o to_o do_v and_o no_o otherwise_o the_o question_n than_o be_v where_o the_o institution_n for_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n be_v if_o they_o say_v that_o to_o abraham_n i_o answer_v that_o be_v to_o circumcise_v not_o to_o baptize_v that_o all_o his_o male_n not_o his_o female_n that_o all_o bear_v in_o his_o house_n or_o buy_v with_o money_n at_o eight_o day_n old_a if_o they_o ground_n it_o from_o this_o institution_n then_o must_v they_o observe_v it_o in_o every_o thing_n for_o so_o do_v abraham_n who_o have_v sin_v in_o do_v otherwise_o in_o any_o thing_n but_o here_o say_v they_o we_o have_v another_o institution_n to_o baptise_v all_o nation_n mat._n 28._o 19_o to_o which_o i_o answer_v then_o ought_v they_o to_o observe_v that_o institution_n which_o be_v first_o to_o make_v disciple_n and_o then_o to_o baptise_v they_o so_o make_v for_o so_o be_v the_o institution_n and_o no_o otherwise_o but_o here_o they_o say_v it_o be_v not_o any_o where_o forbid_v to_o baptise_v infant_n to_o which_o i_o answer_v that_o it_o be_v as_o much_o forbid_v as_o it_o be_v forbid_v abraham_n to_o circumcise_v his_o female_n for_o it_o be_v not_o say_v to_o he_o thou_o shall_v not_o circumcise_v thy_o female_n nor_o thou_o shall_v not_o circumcise_v any_o other_o save_o such_o and_o such_o nor_o only_o these_o and_o these_o and_o whosoever_o therefore_o be_v not_o include_v in_o the_o institution_n be_v exclude_v for_o else_o may_v abraham_n lawful_o have_v circumcise_v also_o all_o the_o male_n of_o his_o beast_n as_o his_o camel_n and_o ass_n for_o this_o be_v not_o otherwise_o forbid_v he_o they_o further_o say_v that_o infant_n now_o be_v as_o capable_a of_o baptism_n with_o all_o its_o signification_n as_o infant_n than_o be_v of_o circumcision_n they_o see_v no_o reason_n but_o they_o may_v as_o well_o be_v baptise_a as_o the_o other_o be_v circumcise_v to_o which_o i_o answer_v if_o they_o mean_v by_o capable_a faith_n and_o repentance_n which_o be_v require_v of_o every_o meet_a subject_n as_o before_o be_v show_v in_o this_o sense_n they_o be_v not_o capable_a but_o if_o they_o mean_v although_o they_o be_v infant_n yet_o they_o may_v be_v baptize_v in_o water_n and_o be_v as_o capable_a to_o endure_v it_o as_o infant_n than_o be_v to_o be_v circumcise_v to_o this_o i_o answer_v and_o say_v that_o so_o be_v all_o infant_n in_o the_o world_n capable_a of_o baptism_n and_o so_o all_o infant_n from_o adam_n to_o abraham_n be_v capable_a of_o circumcision_n i_o demand_v of_o they_o why_o these_o be_v not_o circumcise_v they_o will_v say_v because_o circumcision_n be_v not_o then_o command_v but_o as_o soon_o as_o it_o be_v command_v it_o be_v do_v then_o must_v we_o baptize_v infant_n when_o we_o be_v command_v to_o do_v it_o and_o not_o before_o notwithstanding_o their_o be_v thus_o capable_a thereof_o with_o all_o its_o significationss_n object_n god_n give_v to_o infant_n circumcision_n which_o be_v a_o sign_n and_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n and_o regeneration_n gen._n 17_o 11._o rom._n 4._o 11._o and_o we_o know_v god_n give_v no_o lie_a sign_n nor_o seal_v a_o covenant_n to_o any_o person_n that_o be_v not_o therein_o therefore_o infant_n be_v in_o the_o covenant_n have_v faith_n and_o regeneration_n and_o so_o ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v now_o as_o well_o as_o circumcise_v then_o answ_n it_o be_v true_a that_o god_n give_v no_o lie_a sign_n nor_o seal_v to_o any_o person_n that_o they_o be_v in_o the_o covenant_n when_o they_o be_v not_o therein_o and_o therefore_o see_v that_o ishmael_n be_v circumcise_a after_o that_o god_n have_v declare_v and_o make_v it_o know_v that_o he_o be_v not_o in_o the_o covenant_n gen_n 17._o 18._o 19_o 20_o 21._o it_o must_v thence_o follow_v that_o circumcision_n be_v not_o by_o god_n ordain_v nor_o by_o abraham_n understand_v to_o be_v to_o the_o person_n circumcise_v a_o seal_n of_o their_o be_v in_o the_o covenant_n and_o much_o less_o of_o their_o be_v in_o the_o faith_n or_o regenerate_v wherefore_o gen._n 17._o 11._o rom._n 4._o 11._o which_o this_o objection_n be_v ground_v upon_o of_o necessity_n must_v be_v understand_v as_o the_o apostle_n there_o appli_v it_o to_o wit_n that_o the_o circumcision_n which_o abraham_n receive_v both_o upon_o himself_o and_o seed_n be_v to_o he_o and_o they_o a_o sign_n and_o seal_n that_o righteousness_n shall_v be_v not_o by_o the_o law_n or_o circumcision_n in_o the_o flesh_n but_o by_o the_o faith_n which_o abraham_n have_v when_o he_o be_v yet_o uncircumcised_a that_o he_o shall_v be_v the_o father_n of_o all_o those_o of_o many_o nation_n which_o shall_v afterward_o believe_v and_o that_o as_o faith_n be_v impute_v unto_o he_o for_o righteousness_n even_o so_o likewise_o it_o shall_v be_v impute_v to_o all_o believer_n whatsoever_o whether_o they_o be_v circumcise_a or_o not_o and_o that_o all_o these_o be_v and_o be_v to_o be_v the_o only_a heir_n and_o true_a feed_n to_o who_o the_o everlasting_a covenant_n and_o promise_n of_o life_n be_v assure_o make_v and_o do_v proper_o and_o undoubted_o appertain_v ver_fw-la 3._o 11_o 12_o 13_o 14._o 16_o 17._o 18._o 22_o 23_o 24._o and_o therefore_o circumcision_n never_o be_v nor_o be_v