Selected quad for the lemma: reason_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
reason_n baptism_n baptize_v infant_n 2,779 5 9.3007 5 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A78132 A defence of the lavvfulnesse of baptizing infants. As also of the present baptisme, as it hath continued in the severall ages of the world, from John Baptist the first beginner thereof. In way of answer to something written by Iohn Spilsberie against the same. Barbon, Praisegod, 1596?-1679. 1645 (1645) Wing B749; Thomason E270_12; ESTC R212355 60,304 74

There are 11 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

3_o matth._n 3._o 3_o i._o s._n be_v a_o stranger_n in_o his_o reason_n to_o what_o be_v write_v though_o as_o we_o note_v before_o he_o do_v account_v it_o such_o a_o faulty_a thing_n in_o other_o yet_o he_o please_v himself_o all_o along_o in_o his_o reason_n to_o infer_v this_o and_o the_o other_o thing_n to_o little_a purpose_n unless_o to_o deceive_v second_o this_o practice_n of_o old_a namely_o of_o propagate_a the_o church_n by_o generation_n be_v so_o far_o from_o destroy_v the_o church_n as_o that_o it_o do_v tend_v to_o the_o increase_n of_o it_o great_o and_o be_v a_o mean_n of_o 8._o gen._n 17._o 20._o 22._o 17._o 26_o 4_o 24._o esay_n 4._o 8_o 19_o psal_n 105._o 8._o the_o continue_n of_o it_o according_a to_o the_o gracious_a covenant_n of_o god_n to_o a_o thousand_o generation_n and_o his_o promise_n to_o the_o seed_n seed_n 14._o seed_n esay_n 59_o 14._o now_o that_o covenant_n be_v yet_o in_o force_n and_o that_o promise_v yea_o and_o amen_o 20._o amen_o 2_o cor._n 1._o 20._o in_o christ_n as_o be_v all_o other_o of_o like_a nature_n three_o this_o be_v a_o inference_n savour_v of_o ignorance_n or_o else_o diffidence_n or_o both_o have_v not_o god_n say_v that_o he_o will_v pour_v his_o spirit_n upon_o their_o seed_n to_o wit_n of_o his_o church_n and_o his_o blessing_n upon_o 3._o upon_o esay_n 44._o 3._o their_o offspring_n and_o that_o all_o their_o child_n shall_v be_v 13._o be_v esay_n 54._o 13._o teach_v of_o god_n that_o his_o church_n shall_v be_v a_o praise_n in_o the_o world_n 7._o world_n esay_n 62._o 7._o when_o he_o shall_v return_v in_o favour_n to_o zion_n that_o the_o gentile_n shall_v bring_v their_o riches_n to_o she_o 60._o she_o esay_n 60._o nay_o have_v he_o not_o say_v that_o the_o kingdom_n and_o greatness_n thereof_o shall_v be_v give_v to_o the_o saint_n of_o the_o most_o high_a 27._o high_a dan._n 7._o 27._o and_o that_o this_o honour_n have_v all_o the_o saint_n 9_o saint_n psal_n 144_o 9_o last_o of_o all_o what_o ever_o be_v or_o can_v be_v conceive_v in_o this_o reason_n either_o in_o the_o part_n of_o it_o or_o the_o whole_a put_v together_o can_v amount_v to_o make_v good_a the_o charge_n the_o whole_a suppose_a proof_n reach_v but_o to_o the_o well-being_n and_o purity_n of_o the_o church_n at_o the_o most_o and_o not_o to_o the_o be_v of_o it_o it_o be_v so_o far_o from_o destroy_v of_o it_o as_o be_v affirm_v the_o which_o i_o leave_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o reader_n reason_n iv_o it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o baptize_v infant_n because_o it_o be_v a_o ground_n both_o of_o ignorance_n and_o error_n for_o it_o hold_v people_n in_o blindness_n that_o they_o can_v come_v to_o see_v and_o know_v the_o nature_n of_o that_o holy_a ordinance_n nor_o what_o the_o same_o require_v in_o the_o subject_n thereof_o and_o also_o it_o cause_v the_o simple_a to_o conceive_v that_o baptism_n be_v of_o necessity_n to_o salvation_n answ_n that_o it_o be_v so_o as_o this_o reason_n affirm_v if_o any_o please_v to_o believe_v it_o they_o may_v sure_o there_o be_v no_o word_n of_o god_n produce_v to_o enforce_v they_o nor_o yet_o good_a reason_n or_o necessary_a consequence_n which_o the_o author_n dislike_v in_o other_o to_o move_v they_o to_o it_o second_o this_o reason_n savour_v of_o arrogancy_n and_o intrench_v on_o the_o wisdom_n of_o god_n that_o establish_v this_o very_a thing_n in_o the_o substance_n of_o it_o in_o circumcision_n of_o old_a it_o be_v then_o no_o ground_n of_o ignorance_n nor_o error_n neither_o be_v it_o now_o though_o he_o so_o say_v there_o be_v no_o more_o cause_n give_v to_o simple_a now_o to_o think_v so_o of_o baptism_n than_o be_v give_v they_o then_o in_o case_n of_o circumcision_n indeed_o it_o be_v rather_o likely_a their_o keep_n such_o ado_n about_o baptism_n and_o build_v such_o high_a thing_n thereon_o may_v occasion_v some_o strange_a thought_n to_o such_o as_o be_v simple_a as_o sure_o it_o do_v three_o i_o ask_v what_o shall_v be_v the_o reason_n they_o can_v see_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o ordinance_n etc._n etc._n the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n do_v not_o let_v or_o hinder_v the_o knowledge_n of_o person_n of_o year_n those_o be_v not_o the_o person_n he_o mean_v sure_o for_o i_o appeal_v to_o himself_o whether_o he_o in_o particular_a be_v hinder_v at_o all_o thereby_o nay_o further_o it_o hinder_v not_o infant_n when_o they_o come_v to_o year_n from_o understand_v the_o nature_n and_o end_n of_o the_o ordinance_n no_o more_o than_o it_o do_v in_o the_o case_n of_o circumcision_n the_o israelite_n of_o old_a it_o be_v god_n appointment_n that_o child_n 4._o ephes_n 6._o 4._o now_o as_o of_o old_a shall_v be_v train_v up_o in_o knowledge_n and_o understanding_n if_o any_o be_v hinder_v from_o understand_v the_o nature_n and_o end_n of_o this_o ordinance_n such_o be_v a_o great_a cause_n of_o it_o in_o regard_n of_o many_o that_o be_v of_o the_o judgement_n and_o practice_n of_o i._o s._n who_o be_v so_o mutable_a in_o their_o course_n one_o while_o lay_v down_o another_o time_n take_v up_o and_o then_o cast_v away_o again_o and_o beside_o alter_v the_o end_n of_o baptism_n and_o reject_v the_o proper_a subject_n of_o it_o namely_o the_o lineal_a seed_n of_o the_o faithful_a that_o many_o they_o converse_v withal_o be_v at_o their_o wit_n end_n and_o know_v not_o what_o to_o hold_v or_o settle_v upon_o and_o that_o it_o be_v so_o and_o also_o that_o this_o reason_n have_v no_o force_n in_o it_o against_o the_o baptise_v infant_n i_o leave_v the_o reader_n to_o judge_v reason_n 5_o it_o keep_v up_o the_o state_n of_o antichrist_n by_o grant_v of_o he_o this_o so_o chief_a a_o cornerstone_n of_o the_o lord_n house_n to_o lie_v in_o his_o foundation_n for_o that_o church_n where_o baptism_n be_v the_o true_a ordinance_n of_o god_n in_o the_o administration_n of_o it_o be_v by_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o gospel_n a_o true_a church_n so_o that_o if_o antichrist_n baptism_n which_o he_o administer_v be_v god_n ordinance_n than_o that_o church_n wherein_o he_o do_v so_o administer_v the_o same_o must_v be_v also_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o those_o in_o sin_n that_o refuse_v communion_n with_o it_o answer_n it_o may_v here_o be_v mind_v that_o divers_a thing_n be_v here_o in_o this_o reason_n affirm_v and_o conclude_v but_o nothing_o at_o all_o prove_v we_o know_v what_o be_v write_v to_o the_o law_n and_o testimony_n esay_n 8._o 20._o but_o i._n s._n seem_v to_o be_v a_o stranger_n to_o that_o and_o choose_v inference_n such_o as_o he_o find_v great_a fault_n with_o in_o his_o epistle_n no_o man_n needs_o to_o believe_v what_o be_v say_v in_o this_o reason_n unless_o he_o will_n second_o who_o grant_v this_o to_o lie_v in_o the_o foundation_n of_o antichrist_n sure_o i._o s._n surmise_v and_o take_v for_o grant_v that_o which_o be_v not_o acknowledge_v if_o any_o do_v or_o have_v do_v it_o be_v not_o for_o want_v of_o ignorance_n jeroboam_n make_v a_o schism_n set_v up_o a_o idolatrous_a way_n of_o worship_n and_o calf_n and_o yet_o notwithstanding_o that_o way_n of_o he_o there_o be_v circumcision_n the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n and_o no_o part_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o his_o idolatrous_a way_n nor_o any_o cornerstone_n in_o the_o build_n thereof_o neither_o be_v baptism_n now_o any_o more_o a_o part_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o antichrist_n or_o cornerstone_n in_o that_o build_n and_o if_o i._o s._n be_v not_o ignorant_a of_o this_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n he_o will_v not_o thus_o reason_n as_o he_o do_v this_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n it_o wrought_v in_o the_o church_n 2._o 2_o thes_n 2._o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n when_o baptism_n be_v god_n ordinance_n and_o no_o part_n of_o that_o foundation_n or_o cornerstone_n in_o that_o build_n as_o neither_o be_v now_o any_o part_n of_o it_o let_v i._n s._n if_o he_o can_v show_v when_o baptism_n become_v such_o a_o cornerstone_n in_o the_o foundation_n of_o that_o build_n or_o why_o it_o shall_v be_v so_o more_o than_o circumcision_n of_o old_a be_v a_o cornerstone_n in_o that_o idolatrous_a state_n and_o way_n of_o jeroboam_n and_o the_o calf_n let_v he_o show_v how_o long_o it_o continue_v god_n holy_a ordinance_n and_o when_o it_o cease_v so_o to_o be_v three_o christ_n be_v the_o chief_a cornerstone_n and_o this_o cornerstone_n be_v in_o 20._o ephes_n 2._o 20._o that_o dessection_n yet_o not_o part_v of_o it_o i_o suppose_v i._n s._n grant_v it_o and_o will_v not_o deny_v it_o that_o there_o be_v in_o many_o in_o this_o kingdom_n especial_o and_o alia_fw-la john_n hus_n &_o alia_fw-la else_o where_o as_o it_o be_v also_o former_o such_o as_o in_o who_o christ_n and_o his_o
word_n and_o spirit_n dwell_v yet_o be_v not_o come_v out_o of_o that_o state_n according_a to_o his_o sense_n now_o to_o grant_v this_o be_v more_o likely_a to_o keep_v up_o the_o state_n of_o antichrist_n and_o to_o deny_v this_o sure_a he_o dare_v not_o let_v he_o see_v how_o he_o will_v avoid_v his_o own_o argument_n upon_o his_o own_o ground_n sure_o some_o have_v see_v this_o and_o thereupon_o have_v hold_v no_o faith_n no_o grace_n no_o christ_n till_o so_o separate_v from_o babylon_n sure_o he_o must_v either_o renounce_v his_o reason_n or_o fall_v under_o the_o condemnation_n of_o it_o if_o he_o be_v true_a to_o his_o own_o principle_n in_o this_o particular_a that_o now_o i_o set_v down_o if_o my_o judgement_n fail_v i_o not_o he_o will_v never_o be_v able_a to_o avoid_v it_o by_o grant_v the_o scripture_n translate_v to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o useful_a in_o the_o church_n which_o babylon_n have_v translate_v keep_v and_o hold_v forth_o and_o build_v upon_o now_o for_o he_o and_o other_o to_o receive_v hold_v and_o keep_v the_o same_o and_o to_o acknowledge_v they_o as_o god_n it_o must_v sure_o be_v according_a to_o his_o reason_n a_o keep_n up_o the_o state_n of_o antichrist_n by_o grant_v this_o foundation_n to_o his_o build_n and_o this_o cornerstone_n jesus_n christ_n for_o of_o the_o scripture_n its_o say_a and_o be_v build_v upon_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n christ_n the_o chief_a corner_n 20._o ephes_n 2._o 20._o stone_n but_o now_o in_o stead_n of_o the_o word_n of_o the_o lord_n for_o proof_n of_o what_o he_o have_v affirm_v in_o his_o reason_n he_o give_v only_o his_o own_o say_n to_o very_o little_a purpose_n sure_o that_o church_n say_v he_o where_o baptism_n be_v the_o true_a ordinance_n of_o god_n as_o if_o god_n have_v some_o false_a ordinance_n in_o the_o administration_n of_o it_o observe_v he_o have_v get_v the_o word_n true_a to_o help_v he_o along_o that_o church_n say_v he_o by_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o gospel_n be_v a_o true_a church_n what_o rule_n or_o rule_v he_o mean_v be_v hard_a to_o guess_v he_o set_v down_o no_o place_n of_o scripture_n again_o it_o be_v observable_a how_o he_o close_v with_o they_o he_o oppose_v make_v the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n infallible_a mark_n of_o the_o church_n yea_o one_o of_o they_o alone_o to_o wit_n baptism_n and_o yet_o he_o hold_v a_o church_n may_v be_v christ_n without_o baptism_n as_o in_o his_o book_n may_v be_v see_v he_o infer_v further_a and_o thereby_o will_v prove_v for_o want_n of_o scripture_n that_o if_o baptism_n be_v true_a the_o church_n be_v true_a i_o ask_v master_n i._n s._n if_o the_o apostate_n ten_o tribe_n be_v a_o true_a church_n for_o it_o be_v certain_a their_o circumcision_n be_v true_a so_o as_o here_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v how_o he_o make_v the_o church_n and_o baptism_n such_o special_a relative_n as_o the_o one_o give_v be_v to_o the_o other_o as_o the_o father_n do_v to_o the_o son_n etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o he_o hold_v a_o unbaptised_a church_n as_o we_o note_v before_o he_o add_v further_a that_o it_o be_v the_o church_n of_o god_n it_o be_v sin_n in_o any_o not_o to_o communicate_v with_o she_o a_o confident_a charge_n but_o where_o be_v the_o proof_n alas_o it_o be_v altogether_o want_v communion_n with_o a_o church_n be_v the_o question_n to_o which_o i_o shall_v say_v a_o little_a and_o leave_v the_o reader_n to_o judge_v first_o i_o distinguish_v of_o church_n second_o of_o communion_n church_n be_v either_o pure_a and_o undefiled_a or_o otherwise_o corrupt_a and_o in_o sundry_a thing_n pollute_v communion_n it_o be_v either_o general_a consist_v in_o own_v acknowledge_v and_o stand_v for_o or_o it_o be_v special_a and_o peculiar_a in_o fellowship_n and_o worship_n now_o for_o a_o church_n corrupt_a and_o defile_v general_a communion_n only_o can_v lawful_o be_v extend_v especial_o if_o she_o be_v great_o defile_v for_o we_o may_v not_o partake_v of_o other_o sin_n though_o we_o be_v to_o own_o their_o virtue_n and_o good_a thing_n that_o be_v in_o they_o and_o hold_v relation_n to_o they_o while_o they_o 22._o 1_o tim._n 5._o 22._o hold_v the_o head_n but_o with_o a_o pure_a church_n we_o may_v and_o aught_o to_o extend_v communion_n in_o all_o the_o part_n of_o communion_n but_o the_o question_n be_v of_o communion_n with_o a_o corrupt_a church_n i_o say_v we_o be_v to_o hold_v general_a communion_n with_o the_o same_o and_o to_o own_o it_o for_o the_o relation_n it_o have_v to_o christ_n so_o long_o as_o it_o hold_v the_o head_n and_o if_o particular_a communion_n in_o ordinance_n can_v be_v extend_v without_o partake_v in_o sin_n we_o shall_v not_o be_v want_v that_o way_n as_o occasion_n be_v offer_v but_o though_o with_o such_o a_o church_n in_o general_a and_o further_o as_o we_o can_v without_o sin_n yet_o not_o with_o she_o in_o sin_n we_o be_v to_o keep_v ourselves_o pure_a as_o before_o and_o in_o this_o case_n that_o be_v very_o considerable_a revel_v 18._o 4._o come_v out_o of_o she_o my_o people_n that_o you_o partake_v not_o of_o her_o sin_n so_o that_o here_o i_o both_o grant_n and_o also_o deny_v that_o which_o i._o s._n affirm_v i_o grant_v if_o it_o be_v a_o church_n though_o corrupt_a yet_o so_o long_o as_o it_o have_v relation_n to_o christ_n it_o be_v sin_n not_o to_o own_v she_o and_o acknowledge_v her_o relation_n i_o wish_v i._n s._n be_v free_a from_o this_o sin_n that_o condemn_v as_o no_o church_n of_o christ_n all_o the_o church_n of_o god_n in_o the_o world_n only_o those_o of_o his_o way_n i_o pray_v he_o to_o consider_v of_o it_o i_o also_o deny_v what_o he_o say_v be_v refer_v to_o that_o special_a communion_n in_o ordinance_n and_o worship_n which_o we_o be_v bind_v no_o further_o unto_o then_o as_o we_o may_v partake_v with_o they_o without_o sin_n and_o defilement_n the_o seven_o thousand_o can_v not_o may_v not_o ought_v not_o to_o have_v bow_v to_o baal_n or_o kiss_v the_o calf_n or_o go_v to_o gilgal_n to_o transgress_v 5._o rom._n 11._o 4._o hosea_n 13._o 2._o hosea_n 4._o 15._o amos_n 5._o 5._o nor_o yet_o join_v with_o those_o priest_n make_v of_o the_o low_a of_o the_o people_n yet_o be_v they_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o circumcision_n and_o other_o of_o god_n ordinance_n may_v be_v do_v lawful_o of_o they_o yea_o those_o of_o the_o church_n do_v not_o sin_n in_o abstain_v communion_n in_o judah_n itself_o in_o the_o time_n of_o ahaz_n and_o manasses_n for_o as_o in_o go_v to_o gilgal_n so_o in_o go_v to_o jerusalem_n they_o shall_v have_v transgress_v all_o which_o consider_v i_o conceive_v it_o will_v appear_v to_o be_v very_o fabulous_a which_o i._o s._n affirm_v of_o infant_n baptism_n keep_v up_o the_o state_n of_o antichrist_n for_o indeed_o the_o contrary_n be_v rather_o true_a that_o the_o denial_n of_o they_o right_o to_o that_o holy_a ordinance_n do_v rather_o keep_v up_o that_o state_n by_o the_o harden_v they_o that_o otherwise_o will_v come_v out_o and_o also_o by_o the_o great_a confusion_n like_o another_o babel_n which_o this_o opinion_n and_o practice_n produce_v all_o which_o i_o leave_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o godly_a wise_a reason_n vi_o it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o baptize_v infant_n for_o that_o be_v to_o build_v faith_n upon_o humane_a testimony_n in_o matter_n fundamental_a for_o such_o as_o be_v baptize_v in_o infancy_n have_v no_o other_o way_n to_o satisfy_v themselves_o or_o other_o but_o the_o bare_a word_n of_o man_n that_o must_v stand_v in_o the_o place_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n for_o such_o their_o true_o receive_v so_o holy_a a_o ordinance_n of_o god_n answer_n this_o reason_n be_v very_o unlike_a i._n s._n he_o promise_v fair_a for_o gravity_n and_o wisdom_n etc._n etc._n but_o sure_o such_o a_o shallow_a and_o unsound_a argument_n be_v never_o frame_v before_o i_o suppose_v it_o be_v not_o his_o own_o but_o that_o he_o have_v receive_v it_o without_o consideration_n from_o some_o one_o that_o he_o be_v high_o take_v withal_o and_o be_v a_o new_a thing_n it_o please_v he_o and_o he_o set_v it_o among_o his_o reason_n why_o he_o will_v not_o have_v child_n baptize_v that_o they_o may_v be_v something_o for_o number_n though_o nothing_o in_o substance_n and_o weight_n his_o scope_n be_v easy_a but_o his_o expression_n dark_a and_o covert_a i_o shall_v go_v over_o they_o by_o way_n of_o quere_z first_o i_o will_v fain_o know_v what_o faith_n he_o here_o mean_v whether_o historical_a or_o of_o some_o other_o kind_n second_o i_o will_v know_v what_o he_o mean_v by_o build_v faith_n upon_o humane_a testimony_n three_o i_o will_v know_v what_o he_o mean_v
by_o matter_n fundamental_a and_o how_o the_o receipt_n of_o the_o ordinance_n can_v be_v a_o matter_n fundamental_a when_o the_o person_n may_v not_o only_o be_v matter_n but_o part_n of_o a_o church_n without_o it_o as_o he_o hold_v four_o i_o will_v know_v how_o the_o word_n of_o man_n stand_v in_o the_o place_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o what_o he_o mean_v by_o the_o bare_a word_n of_o man_n in_o this_o matter_n of_o fact_n last_o i_o will_v know_v what_o he_o mean_v by_o true_o receive_v this_o holy_a ordinance_n and_o whether_o he_o hold_v there_o be_v a_o false_a receive_v this_o ordinance_n and_o yet_o the_o ordinance_n holy_a and_o true_a to_o they_o that_o receive_v it_o this_o reason_n as_o it_o be_v set_v down_o i_o take_v to_o be_v something_o like_o a_o spell_n the_o sum_n of_o it_o in_o other_o word_n i_o take_v to_o be_v this_o infant_n be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v for_o that_o they_o can_v be_v assure_v when_o they_o come_v to_o year_n that_o they_o be_v baptize_v but_o by_o the_o witness_n of_o man_n and_o if_o that_o fail_v than_o there_o be_v no_o way_n of_o satisfy_v of_o themselves_o that_o they_o be_v at_o all_o baptize_v to_o which_o i_o answer_v first_o that_o i_o will_v not_o much_o strive_v with_o a_o person_n in_o such_o a_o case_n if_o that_o be_v the_o cause_n that_o the_o probablenesse_n of_o his_o not_o be_v at_o all_o baptise_a be_v the_o cause_n that_o move_v he_o to_o desire_v to_o be_v baptise_a especial_o if_o it_o do_v appear_v to_o they_o by_o who_o he_o shall_v seek_v to_o be_v baptise_a that_o he_o have_v not_o be_v baptise_a at_o all_o but_o sure_o this_o be_v far_o from_o the_o case_n in_o question_n wherein_o man_n get_v themselves_o baptize_v not_o that_o they_o think_v they_o be_v not_o baptize_v at_o all_o but_o that_o they_o judge_v it_o be_v not_o the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n because_o of_o the_o corruption_n in_o the_o subject_n instrument_n or_o the_o manner_n of_o their_o be_v baptize_v which_o make_v the_o matter_n null_n and_o void_a second_o i_o will_v have_v it_o mind_v how_o a_o person_n circumcise_v in_o youth_n can_v be_v assure_v when_o he_o come_v to_o year_n especial_o if_o his_o circumcision_n be_v gather_v and_o grow_v so_o as_o he_o can_v not_o see_v the_o print_n in_o the_o flesh_n for_o this_o reason_n if_o it_o have_v any_o force_n in_o it_o it_o have_v the_o same_o against_o circumcision_n in_o infancy_n as_o against_o baptism_n for_o such_o so_o circumcise_v can_v be_v no_o otherwise_o assure_v then_o such_o a_o way_n as_o will_v come_v within_o the_o compass_n of_o humane_a testimony_n if_o it_o be_v say_v they_o may_v satisfy_v themselves_o by_o the_o sight_n of_o the_o print_n of_o the_o flesh_n i_o answer_v that_o may_v be_v gather_v and_o grow_v so_o as_o not_o to_o be_v see_v and_o again_o if_o it_o be_v not_o that_o fight_n be_v not_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o beside_o they_o may_v be_v mistake_v or_o be_v circumcise_v unlawful_o three_o that_o other_o be_v circumcise_v of_o old_a or_o be_v baptize_v now_o especial_o those_o to_o be_v join_v with_o in_o public_a ordinance_n and_o special_a communion_n now_o how_o can_v the_o israelite_n know_v of_o old_a or_o how_o can_v it_o be_v know_v now_o in_o particular_a how_o will_v i._n s._n to_o put_v the_o case_n to_o himself_o how_o will_v he_o i_o say_v know_v and_o be_v assure_v that_o such_o and_o such_o as_o he_o hold_v communion_n withal_o be_v baptize_v but_o by_o humane_a testimony_n instead_o of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n as_o he_o say_v he_o must_v take_v their_o own_o word_n in_o their_o own_o case_n whether_o it_o be_v not_o humane_a i_o leave_v it_o to_o he_o to_o judge_v and_o i_o demand_v further_o whether_o upon_o this_o his_o ground_n any_o can_v in_o faith_n join_v in_o fellowship_n and_o special_a communion_n or_o can_v of_o old_a with_o any_o they_o do_v not_o see_v or_o have_v not_o see_v circumcise_v of_o old_a 9_o ephes_n 44._o 9_o or_o baptise_a now_o in_o this_o dispensation_n of_o the_o gospel_n for_o suppose_v they_o be_v baptise_a in_o holland_n or_o in_o some_o part_n of_o this_o kingdom_n nay_o in_o this_o city_n and_o i_o not_o see_v it_o do_v where_o be_o i_o then_o by_o his_o ground_n i_o must_v believe_v the_o bare_a word_n of_o man_n in_o stead_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o a_o matter_n alike_o fundamental_a according_a to_o his_o account_n four_o in_o matter_n of_o fact_n i_o judge_v faith_n of_o such_o a_o nature_n as_o we_o have_v now_o in_o hand_n be_v to_o go_v upon_o humane_a testimony_n if_o 1_n s._n will_v have_v it_o so_o call_v and_o that_o such_o testimony_n be_v of_o divine_a authority_n and_o every_o way_n satisfactory_a to_o be_v rest_v in_o for_o at_o the_o mouth_n of_o two_o or_o three_o witness_n every_o truth_n stand_v ratify_v in_o matter_n of_o fact_n i_o 16._o matth._n 18._o 16._o make_v it_o appear_v thus_o that_o such_o a_o people_n be_v christ_n church_n a_o church_n be_v a_o fundamental_a thing_n man_n witness_n must_v carry_v it_o and_o give_v satisfaction_n especial_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o first_o beginning_n of_o a_o church_n which_o some_o much_o stand_n upon_o again_o that_o such_o a_o person_n be_v the_o lawful_a minister_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o church_n lawful_o choose_v and_o ordain_v what_o way_n be_v there_o of_o satisfaction_n but_o the_o word_n of_o man_n to_o any_o but_o only_o to_o those_o that_o be_v at_o the_o act_n of_o it_o excommunication_n be_v a_o ordinance_n alike_o fundamental_a with_o baptism_n it_o be_v to_o be_v do_v in_o faith_n the_o practic_a part_n of_o it_o be_v to_o be_v build_v upon_o the_o testimony_n of_o man_n at_o the_o mouth_n of_o two_o or_o three_o witness_n so_o as_o here_o express_o the_o word_n the_o bare_a word_n of_o man_n carry_v the_o same_o so_o as_o i_o conclude_v as_o this_o reason_n be_v a_o foolish_a fancy_n so_o it_o premise_v whole_o upon_o untruth_n and_o raise_v unprofitable_a doubt_n and_o have_v the_o same_o force_n against_o other_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n as_o it_o have_v against_o baptism_n of_o infant_n that_o it_o can_v by_o no_o mean_n reach_v so_o high_a as_o to_o hinder_v infant_n baptism_n all_o which_o i_o leave_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o reader_n reason_n 7_o to_o baptize_v infant_n make_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n a_o lie_a sign_n because_o none_o of_o those_o thing_n can_v be_v expect_v in_o a_o infant_n which_o the_o say_a ordinance_n hold_v forth_o or_o signify_v in_o the_o administration_n of_o it_o which_o be_v the_o party_n regeneration_n and_o spiritual_a new_a birth_n a_o die_a and_o burial_n with_o christ_n in_o respect_n of_o sin_n and_o rise_v with_o he_o in_o a_o new_a life_n to_o god_n and_o a_o confirmation_n of_o faith_n in_o the_o death_n and_o resurrection_n of_o christ_n and_o free_a remission_n of_o sin_n by_o the_o same_o as_o rom._n 6._o 3_o 4._o none_o of_o all_o which_o can_v be_v expect_v in_o a_o infant_n answ_n this_o be_v a_o lie_a accusation_n of_o a_o malignant_a spirit_n against_o a_o holy_a practice_n of_o a_o ordinance_n of_o god_n own_o appointment_n for_o may_v not_o any_o one_o as_o true_o have_v say_v thus_o of_o circumcision_n of_o infant_n of_o old_a aswell_o as_o of_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n now_o for_o what_o can_v be_v expect_v of_o a_o infant_n then_o that_o can_v be_v now_o do_v not_o circumcision_n call_v for_o and_o lead_v unto_o then_o as_o much_o as_o baptism_n do_v now_o do_v not_o circumcision_n call_v for_o circumcision_n of_o heart_n circumcision_n 29._o rom._n 2._o 29._o be_v as_o the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o the_o heart_n not_o of_o the_o letter_n the_o praise_n whereof_o be_v of_o god_n not_o of_o man_n do_v it_o not_o also_o call_v for_o regeneration_n and_o newness_n of_o life_n be_v not_o the_o infant_n of_o it_o spiritual_a above_o the_o reach_n of_o the_o creature_n especial_o child_n yet_o it_o be_v then_o no_o lie_a sign_n as_o i._o s._n in_o the_o case_n of_o baptism_n lying_o affirm_v second_o i_o say_v our_o lord_n be_v baptize_v and_o this_o ordinance_n be_v no_o lie_v sign_n as_o it_o be_v act_v on_o he_o yet_o those_o thing_n be_v not_o in_o he_o nor_o can_v be_v which_o i._o s._n say_v the_o ordinance_n hold_v forth_o or_o signify_v namely_o regeneration_n a_o spiritual_a new_a life_n die_v to_o sin_n bury_v with_o christ_n rise_v with_o he_o in_o newness_n of_o life_n confirmation_n of_o faith_n and_o free_a remission_n of_o sin_n by_o the_o same_o what_o will_v j._n s._n say_v now_o will_v he_o say_v it_o be_v a_o live_a sign_n or_o will_v he_o confess_v his_o lie_a accusation_n to_o
or_o free_a from_o error_n and_o change_n from_o one_o to_o another_o that_o hold_v not_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n holy_a ordinance_n to_o have_v continue_v in_o the_o world_n but_o to_o be_v cease_v by_o mean_n of_o the_o defilement_n that_o have_v attend_v they_o consider_v of_o it_o courteous_a reader_n and_o of_o the_o whole_a ensue_a matter_n which_o i_o commend_v to_o thy_o consideration_n and_o the_o blessing_n of_o god_n to_o cause_v thou_o to_o profit_n which_o if_o in_o any_o thing_n thou_o shall_v do_v i_o have_v my_o desire_n and_o so_o rest_v thou_o in_o the_o service_n of_o love_n p._n b._n the_o content_n chap._n i._o contain_v a_o answer_n to_o nine_o reason_n against_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n fol._n 1_o chap._n ii_o contain_v a_o discovery_n of_o the_o vain_a pretence_n of_o find_v baptism_n lose_v and_o fall_v out_o of_o the_o world_n in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n of_o god_n fol._n 17_o chap._n iii_o contain_v a_o defence_n of_o the_o judgement_n of_o such_o as_o hold_v that_o baptism_n have_v continue_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n under_o the_o defilement_n of_o antichrist_n fol._n 32_o chap._n iv_o contain_v a_o defence_n of_o their_o judgement_n that_o hold_v no_o right_n or_o orderly_o ministerial_a church_n without_o or_o before_o baptism_n fol._n 57_o a_o defence_n of_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o the_o baptise_v infant_n chap._n i._o contain_v a_o answer_n to_o reason_n set_v down_o in_o page_n 25._o why_o infant_n shall_v not_o be_v baptise_a the_o several_a reason_n be_v set_v down_o in_o order_n their_o several_a and_o respective_a answer_n do_v follow_v reason_n i_o because_o there_o be_v neither_o command_n nor_o example_n for_o the_o baptise_v infant_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n the_o order_n and_o government_n of_o which_o be_v no_o way_n inferior_a to_o the_o old_a but_o in_o the_o old_a there_o be_v a_o express_a rule_n by_o command_n from_o god_n what_o communicant_n be_v to_o be_v admit_v to_o circumcison_n and_o other_o ordinance_n of_o that_o nature_n and_o what_o not_o but_o this_o order_n be_v not_o where_o find_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n for_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n and_o therefore_o the_o same_o be_v not_o to_o be_v practise_v answer_n this_o first_o reason_n place_v in_o the_o front_n be_v whole_o upon_o supposition_n conclude_v and_o so_o take_v that_o for_o grant_v which_o be_v whole_o in_o controversy_n and_o the_o contrary_a as_o confident_o affirm_v by_o his_o oponent_n as_o deny_v by_o he_o namely_o that_o there_o be_v neither_o precept_n nor_o example_n for_o baptise_v infant_n which_o they_o affirm_v there_o be_v again_o this_o reason_n be_v whole_o by_o way_n of_o deduction_n and_o inference_n without_o any_o scripture_n either_o for_o ground_n or_o confirmation_n of_o it_o of_o which_o he_o complain_v in_o his_o epistle_n and_o yet_o he_o practise_v it_o himself_o and_o that_o in_o his_o first_o reason_n second_o it_o be_v observable_a how_o he_o by_o this_o reason_n exclude_v a_o great_a and_o main_a part_n of_o the_o scripture_n namely_o necessary_a consequence_n and_o right_a inference_n be_v such_o a_o way_n as_o our_o lord_n himself_o use_v to_o confute_v the_o sadducee_n withal_o 32._o withal_o mat._n 22._o 32._o i_o be_o the_o god_n etc._n etc._n god_n be_v not_o the_o god_n of_o the_o dead_a here_o be_v neither_o command_n nor_o example_n and_o yet_o the_o truth_n full_o evince_v the_o mind_n of_o god_n manifest_v and_o the_o sadducee_n confute_v three_o it_o be_v a_o unsound_a conclusion_n that_o because_o there_o be_v no_o command_n or_o example_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n therefore_o not_o to_o be_v do_v there_o be_v no_o particular_a example_n nor_o particular_a command_n for_o woman_n partake_v in_o the_o supper_n yet_o they_o be_v judge_v lawful_a communicant_n there_o be_v no_o example_n nor_o particular_a command_n for_o translation_n of_o scripture_n or_o that_o such_o translation_n be_v use_v in_o church-meeting_n yet_o it_o be_v lawful_o do_v last_o there_o be_v no_o command_n or_o example_n for_o a_o unbaptised_a person_n to_o baptize_v himself_o or_o other_o so_o as_o if_o this_o first_o argument_n be_v true_a i._n s._n and_o those_o of_o his_o way_n will_v be_v in_o a_o poor_a case_n four_o it_o be_v untrue_a that_o which_o he_o infer_v there_o be_v both_o example_n and_o precept_n in_o the_o scripture_n for_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n though_o he_o can_v see_v it_o 1_o corinth_n 10._o matth._n 28._o compare_v with_o esay_n 52._o 15._o which_o shall_v be_v further_o show_v hereafter_o in_o make_v it_o to_o appear_v that_o child_n be_v yet_o a_o part_n of_o the_o church_n and_o so_o both_o precept_n and_o example_n be_v for_o the_o wash_n of_o the_o whole_a it_o must_v include_v they_o necessary_o as_o a_o part_n ephes_n 5._o 26._o reason_n two_o it_o be_v a_o high_a contempt_n and_o injury_n to_o christ_n as_o he_o be_v husband_n of_o the_o church_n his_o holy_a spouse_n to_o force_v on_o he_o a_o natural_a wife_n himself_o be_v spiritual_a and_o desire_v the_o like_a associate_n as_o such_o a_o church_n be_v found_v upon_o nature_n namely_o infant_n because_o common_o to_o one_o bear_v of_o the_o spirit_n there_o be_v twenty_o bear_v of_o the_o flesh_n answer_n first_o here_o be_v a_o high_a charge_n without_o proof_n no_o scripture_n produce_v for_o confirmation_n be_v not_o this_o rather_o a_o high_a contempt_n and_o presumption_n be_v it_o not_o a_o sad_a thing_n that_o a_o man_n shall_v fall_v under_o the_o condemnation_n of_o his_o own_o law_n or_o otherwise_o exempt_v himself_o from_o that_o which_o he_o will_v bind_v other_o unto_o namely_o to_o bring_v the_o scripture_n and_o not_o consequence_n second_o this_o reason_n accuse_v god_n himself_o in_o give_v the_o church_n of_o old_a namely_o those_o seed_n of_o abraham_n by_o generation_n which_o he_o call_v carnal_a to_o christ_n his_o son_n to_o wife_n jesus_n christ_n our_o lord_n be_v the_o same_o spiritual_a head_n and_o husband_n yesterday_n and_o to_o day_n and_o for_o ever_o heb._n 13._o 8._o three_o it_o be_v no_o injury_n to_o christ_n or_o contempt_n of_o he_o though_o without_o any_o word_n of_o god_n he_o so_o say_v for_o christ_n to_o have_v the_o heathen_a 8._o psal_n 2._o 8._o give_v he_o for_o inheritance_n and_o the_o end_n of_o the_o earth_n for_o his_o possession_n it_o be_v no_o injury_n to_o he_o though_o the_o disciple_n think_v it_o be_v to_o have_v little_a child_n bring_v to_o he_o his_o kingdom_n consist_v of_o such_o in_o quantity_n as_o well_o as_o quality_n matth._n 19_o 13._o four_o why_o can_v child_n be_v spiritual_a and_o holy_a as_o well_o now_o under_o the_o gospel_n as_o they_o be_v under_o abraham_n and_o moses_n when_o they_o as_o well_o as_o those_o of_o year_n be_v a_o holy_a people_n to_o the_o lord_n god_n 2._o god_n exod._n 19_o 6_o 7_o dent._n 6_o 7._o esay_n 9_o 2._o and_o the_o same_o be_v say_v of_o the_o church_n now_o but_o you_o be_v a_o holy_a nation_n a_o peculiar_a people_n 1_o pet._n 2._o 9_o beside_o what_o spiritualnesse_n be_v there_o in_o the_o five_o foolish_a virgin_n 25_o virgin_n matth._n 25_o i_o will_v know_v that_o be_v not_o or_o may_v not_o be_v in_o child_n and_o be_v not_o there_o as_o much_o injury_n offer_v to_o christ_n in_o give_v they_o to_o christ_n to_o wife_n true_o this_o be_v weak_a and_o inconsiderate_a so_o to_o reason_n not_o mind_v that_o many_o be_v call_v and_o few_o choose_v matth._n 22._o 14._o last_o this_o reason_n be_v whole_o upon_o supposition_n the_o accusation_n without_o proof_n who_o force_v on_o christ_n it_o be_v his_o pleasure_n to_o take_v such_o and_o reprove_v such_o as_o will_v hinder_v they_o and_o say_v suffer_v such_o to_o come_v they_o be_v of_o my_o kingdom_n matth._n 22._o the_o computation_n in_o the_o end_n be_v as_o weak_a as_o all_o the_o rest_n for_o it_o be_v so_o of_o old_a no_o new_a thing_n at_o all_o all_o be_v not_o israel_n that_o be_v of_o israel_n 27._o israel_n rom._n 9_o 27._o and_o if_o the_o number_n of_o israel_n be_v as_o the_o sand_n of_o the_o sea_n but_o a_o remnant_n shall_v be_v save_v reason_n iii_o it_o be_v a_o practice_n that_o over_o throw_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n or_o holy_a temple_n of_o god_n for_o in_o time_n it_o will_v come_v to_o consist_v of_o natural_a and_o carnal_a member_n among_o who_o if_o any_o godly_a be_v they_o will_v be_v bring_v into_o bondage_n and_o become_v subject_n of_o scorn_n and_o contempt_n and_o the_o power_n of_o government_n rest_n in_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o wicked_a answ_n this_o be_v but_o only_o say_v and_o that_o by_o one_o that_o may_v err_v and_o be_v mistake_v john_n baptist_n though_o send_v of_o god_n yet_o he_o cry_v as_o it_o be_v write_v
be_v as_o indeed_o it_o be_v lie_v and_o false_a for_o none_o of_o those_o thing_n which_o he_o be_v please_v to_o set_v down_o as_o hold_v forth_o in_o baptism_n or_o else_o it_o be_v a_o lie_a sign_n can_v be_v expect_v much_o less_o be_v in_o christ_n and_o yet_o he_o fulfil_v righteousness_n in_o be_v sclater_n d._n sclater_n baptize_v as_o be_v righteousness_n fulfil_v in_o infant_n baptism_n even_o as_o it_o be_v in_o their_o circumcision_n of_o old_a for_o we_o may_v know_v that_o there_o be_v other_o end_n in_o baptism_n as_o there_o be_v in_o circumcision_n of_o old_a beside_o those_o specify_v by_o j._n s._n as_o namely_o the_o subject_v the_o creature_n and_o dedicate_a of_o he_o to_o god_n outward_o in_o a_o way_n of_o service_n the_o mark_v of_o he_o for_o god_n by_o such_o a_o character_n the_o difference_v of_o he_o from_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o world_n and_o instruct_v in_o inward_a sanctification_n by_o the_o outward_a wash_n and_o here_o it_o may_v be_v observe_v that_o at_o length_n j._n s._n quote_v a_o scripture_n or_o two_o but_o to_o little_a purpose_n sure_o it_o be_v about_o dip_v for_o that_o be_v new_a and_o please_v he_o and_o so_o in_o his_o seven_o reason_n at_o length_n he_o come_v out_o with_o it_o so_o he_o conclude_v none_o of_o all_o which_o can_v be_v expect_v in_o a_o infant_n and_o why_o not_o but_o only_o because_o he_o say_v so_o but_o his_o word_n be_v no_o oracle_n for_o those_o or_o some_o of_o those_o may_v be_v find_v in_o infant_n notwithstanding_o what_o he_o say_v god_n that_o work_v those_o in_o a_o elder_a can_v work_v they_o in_o a_o infant_n he_o have_v do_v it_o as_o in_o the_o case_n of_o jeremy_n john_n baptist_n he_o have_v promise_v to_o do_v it_o deut._n 30._o 6._o and_o all_o god_n promise_n be_v yea_o &_o amen_o in_o christ_n 1_o cor._n 1._o 10._o which_o when_o j._n s._n have_v consider_v of_o he_o may_v repent_v of_o his_o error_n and_o lie_a accusation_n as_o indeed_o he_o have_v great_a cause_n for_o to_o do_v i_o suppose_v the_o indifferent_a reader_n will_v be_v able_a to_o see_v how_o false_a and_o unworthy_a a_o accusation_n this_o be_v which_o make_v christ_n himself_o a_o unlawful_a subject_n and_o baptism_n a_o lie_a sign_n to_o he_o if_z j._n s._n his_o accusation_n be_v true_a in_o as_o much_o as_o those_o thing_n can_v not_o be_v expect_v or_o be_v at_o all_o in_o christ_n which_o he_o specify_v as_o necessary_a or_o else_o it_o be_v so_o reason_n 8_o because_o the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n be_v to_o be_v passive_a but_o a_o infant_n be_v no_o way_n passive_a as_o that_o ordinance_n require_v i_o mean_v a_o passive_a subject_n in_o a_o threefold_a way_n first_o a_o thing_n uncapable_a and_o so_o be_v a_o stone_n second_o a_o thing_n force_v and_o thus_o be_v a_o infant_n that_o oppose_v it_o baptism_n what_o it_o can_v so_o far_o be_v it_o from_o be_v passive_a in_o the_o same_o three_o a_o thing_n be_v passive_a by_o a_o subject_n power_n produce_v the_o same_o in_o the_o subject_n by_o bring_v of_o it_o into_o a_o free_a and_o voluntary_a subjection_n and_o thus_o be_v the_o true_a subject_n of_o baptism_n none_o can_v be_v capable_a to_o receive_v grace_n but_o by_o grace_n because_o it_o consist_v of_o self-denial_n answ_n first_o it_o be_v marvellous_a to_o see_v how_o contrary_a and_o different_a these_o man_n be_v in_o their_o tenant_n a._n r._n in_o his_o treatise_n of_o childish_a baptism_n make_v child_n to_o be_v uncapable_a subject_n because_o they_o be_v mere_a passive_a as_o he_o be_v please_v to_o say_v whereas_o the_o right_a subject_n of_o baptism_n he_o say_v ought_v to_o be_v more_o than_o passive_a j._n s._n he_o make_v they_o uncapable_a because_o they_o be_v not_o passive_a at_o all_o as_o contrary_a as_o these_o man_n be_v one_o to_o another_o even_o so_o contrary_a be_v their_o opinion_n to_o the_o truth_n namely_o their_o deny_v baptism_n to_o infant_n as_o untrue_a also_o be_v that_o which_o he_o further_o add_v that_o a_o infant_n be_v no_o way_n passive_a as_o that_o ordinance_n require_v what_o that_o ordinance_n require_v in_o a_o passive_a way_n that_o be_v not_o or_o can_v be_v in_o a_o infant_n in_o a_o passive_a way_n sure_a j._n s._n can_v show_v infant_n be_v passive_a in_o circumcision_n of_o old_a so_o be_v person_n of_o year_n and_o there_o be_v no_o real_a difference_n in_o passiveness_n or_o be_v patient_n in_o that_o ordinance_n of_o circumcision_n as_o there_o be_v none_o now_o in_o baptism_n betwixt_o infant_n and_o man_n of_o year_n though_o j._n s._n will_v by_o a_o foolish_a distinction_n of_o the_o divers_a kind_n of_o passiveness_n seek_v to_o make_v it_o appear_v otherwise_o he_o first_o speak_v of_o a_o stone_n be_v passive_a but_o this_o he_o say_v be_v uncapable_a of_o what_o be_v it_o uncapable_a not_o of_o total_a dip_v no_o not_o in_o a_o passive_a way_n j._n s._n may_v please_v to_o remember_v what_o be_v write_v of_o such_o like_a subject_n namely_o the_o baptise_v of_o cup_n and_o pot_n etc._n etc._n which_o sure_o he_o 4._o mark_n 7._o 4._o forget_v else_o he_o will_v not_o have_v distinguish_v so_o second_o for_o a_o infant_n which_o he_o say_v oppose_v its_o baptism_n what_o it_o can_v i_o say_v it_o oppose_v its_o baptism_n no_o more_o than_o it_o do_v in_o circumcision_n of_o old_a but_o how_o know_v he_o they_o oppose_v their_o baptism_n because_o happy_o they_o shrine_n and_o cry_v a_o weighty_a reason_n sure_o do_v not_o infant_n nay_o do_v not_o person_n of_o year_n in_o circumcision_n do_v the_o like_a yea_o more_o do_v not_o person_n of_o year_n shrink_v and_o show_v a_o unwillingness_n to_o be_v total_o dip_v in_o j._n s._n his_o way_n three_o for_o passiveness_n by_o a_o subject_n power_n bring_v a_o thing_n to_o a_o free_a and_o voluntary_a subjection_n which_o be_v as_o he_o say_v the_o true_a subject_n it_o may_v be_v observe_v how_o he_o rub_v upon_o the_o old_a sore_n there_o be_v something_o in_o infant_n want_v some_o faith_n some_o repentance_n some_o freeness_n some_o willingness_n of_o submission_n which_o he_o be_v please_v to_o make_v passive_a qualification_n with_o little_a reason_n sure_o for_o any_o man_n may_v see_v what_o the_o disease_n be_v they_o bring_v nothing_o to_o christ_n therefore_o they_o must_v have_v no_o acceptance_n of_o he_o nor_o grace_n from_o he_o indeed_o it_o be_v work_n and_o not_o grace_n that_o here_o let_v for_o certain_o infant_n be_v as_o capable_a of_o grace_n and_o grace_n as_o free_v to_o they_o as_o to_z person_n of_o year_n as_o both_o old_a and_o young_a be_v mere_a passive_a in_o regard_n of_o inward_a grace_n and_o god_n give_v free_o so_o both_o be_v also_o alike_o passive_a in_o regard_n of_o outward_a grace_n to_o wit_n that_o of_o the_o 17._o the_o gen._n 17._o covenant_n and_o this_o in_o question_n in_o particular_a namely_o baptism_n the_o seal_n of_o it_o even_o as_o in_o circumcision_n of_o old_a but_o he_o have_v a_o kind_n of_o reason_n although_o no_o scripture_n to_o prove_v either_o his_o distinction_n or_o that_o child_n be_v not_o passive_a and_o that_o be_v that_o none_o can_v be_v capable_a to_o receive_v grace_n but_o hy_z grace_n because_o it_o consist_v of_o self-denial_n true_o this_o have_v need_n of_o some_o explain_v sure_o our_o be_v sinner_n and_o miserable_a make_v we_o meet_a subject_n for_o mercy_n i_o reckon_v that_o there_o be_v nothing_o in_o we_o as_o of_o our_o own_o of_o grace_n that_o can_v make_v we_o capable_a i_o suppose_v he_o hold_v not_o with_o the_o papist_n foresee_a work_n or_o any_o preparative_n that_o make_v person_n capable_a of_o grace_n if_o he_o mean_v thus_o that_o none_o can_v be_v capable_a of_o the_o grace_n of_o baptism_n in_o a_o orderly_a way_n but_o by_o be_v within_o the_o grace_n of_o the_o covenant_n first_o i_o shall_v agree_v with_o he_o and_o do_v think_v that_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o clear_a but_o that_o infant_n be_v within_o the_o covenant_n and_o interest_v in_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n that_o way_n they_o be_v capable_a of_o further_a grace_n namely_o to_o be_v seal_v with_o the_o seal_n thereof_o baptism_n but_o what_o he_o mean_v i_o i_o know_v not_o because_o he_o say_v it_o consist_v of_o self-denial_n if_o he_o be_v able_a to_o apply_v it_o to_o the_o purpose_n now_o in_o hand_n i_o shall_v be_v willing_a to_o acknowledge_v my_o want_n of_o judgement_n for_o to_o i_o it_o be_v as_o if_o he_o have_v speak_v of_o a_o man_n in_o the_o moon_n and_o how_o far_o this_o eight_o reason_n be_v from_o effect_v any_o thing_n against_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o infant_n baptism_n i_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o reader_n to_o judge_v
please_v so_o as_o it_o must_v be_v the_o want_n of_o his_o new_a baptism_n or_o nothing_o and_o then_o i_o leave_v it_o to_o he_o to_o judge_v whether_o that_o be_v not_o the_o form_n of_o the_o church_n necessary_o according_a to_o his_o ground_n that_o give_v the_o be_v thereunto_o second_o if_o by_o such_o he_o mean_v those_o he_o be_v a_o opponent_n of_o in_o the_o former_a matter_n of_o the_o church_n continuation_n and_o likewise_o baptism_n under_o popish_a defection_n i_o shall_v add_v a_o little_a in_o the_o way_n of_o defence_n first_o grant_v that_o such_o hold_v indeed_o no_o church_n to_o wit_n right_o constitute_v as_o a_o right_n or_o lawful_a ministerial_a church_n without_o or_o before_o the_o matter_n of_o this_o church_n be_v baptize_v second_o deny_v that_o in_o so_o hold_v they_o make_v baptism_n the_o form_n of_o the_o church_n as_o he_o infer_v and_o so_o make_v baptism_n the_o form_n there_o be_v more_o go_v to_o the_o proof_n of_o a_o matter_n then_o so_o his_o five_o reason_n may_v well_o have_v be_v spare_v by_o which_o he_o will_v prove_v baptism_n not_o to_o be_v the_o form_n of_o the_o church_n till_o he_o have_v make_v that_o to_o appear_v to_o be_v of_o necessity_n the_o right_a consequence_n which_o sure_o he_o be_v never_o able_a to_o do_v for_o there_o be_v no_o right_a ministerial_a church_n of_o old_a without_o circumcision_n yet_o circumcision_n be_v not_o the_o form_n of_o that_o church_n a_o uncircumcised_a person_n be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v a_o member_n much_o less_o a_o officer_n circumcision_n be_v then_o a_o external_a qualification_n of_o the_o matter_n as_o in_o like_a manner_n be_v baptism_n now_o in_o this_o matter_n we_o shall_v have_v recourse_n to_o the_o first_o beginning_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n and_o of_o baptism_n john_n the_o baptist_n the_o forerunner_n of_o christ_n send_v of_o god_n to_o prepare_v the_o way_n of_o his_o son_n according_a to_o commission_n baptize_v much_o people_n as_o do_v also_o afterward_o the_o disciple_n of_o christ_n our_o lord_n to_o he_o repair_v our_o lord_n to_o be_v baptize_v that_o righteousness_n may_v be_v fulfil_v it_o may_v be_v observe_v by_o the_o way_n that_o this_o be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n of_o these_o thus_o baptize_v be_v the_o church_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n begin_v whether_o the_o initiation_n of_o it_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o time_n before_o the_o passion_n of_o our_o lord_n as_o to_o himself_o and_o the_o twelve_o with_o who_o he_o break_v bread_n or_o whether_o it_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o time_n after_o his_o resurrection_n when_o he_o gather_v the_o 120._o together_o and_o bless_a they_o as_o be_v most_o 1._o act_n 1._o proper_a let_v he_o take_v his_o choice_n and_o refer_v to_o which_o he_o will_v it_o be_v begin_v of_o the_o aforesaid_a baptize_v matter_n which_o be_v certain_o to_o the_o life_n of_o the_o matter_n in_o hand_n in_o discover_v that_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n be_v fit_v by_o baptism_n before_o it_o be_v lay_v together_o as_o be_v the_o church_n at_o the_o first_o rise_v of_o it_o so_o be_v the_o proceed_v those_o 120._o baptize_v those_o that_o join_v with_o they_o be_v not_o before_o baptize_v as_o it_o be_v write_v they_o be_v baptize_v and_o add_v to_o the_o church_n this_o first_o church_n scatter_v by_o persecution_n become_v the_o instrument_n of_o increase_n and_o the_o first_o matter_n of_o many_o church_n which_o church_n by_o their_o instrument_n baptize_v such_o as_o receive_v the_o faith_n and_o join_v into_o the_o lord_n and_o thus_o be_v the_o church_n and_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n spread_v throughout_o the_o world_n as_o the_o holy_a history_n do_v show_v and_o let_v j._n s._n or_o any_o of_o his_o way_n show_v that_o there_o be_v ever_o any_o unbaptised_a church_n or_o congregation_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n or_o that_o ever_o any_o unbaptised_a person_n be_v receive_v into_o fellowship_n or_o that_o ever_o any_o unbaptised_a person_n after_o baptism_n be_v a_o foot_n in_o the_o world_n baptize_v or_o be_v authorize_v for_o to_o do_v it_o and_o last_o let_v he_o tell_v i_o whether_o the_o order_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n as_o in_o another_o case_n he_o ask_v be_v not_o as_o strict_a in_o this_o case_n of_o baptism_n as_o it_o be_v in_o circumcision_n of_o old_a when_o no_o uncircumcised_a may_v have_v part_n in_o the_o church_n or_o fellowship_n in_o the_o ordinance_n much_o less_o act_n ordinance_n 44._o esek_n 44._o in_o way_n of_o dispense_n of_o they_o to_o other_o and_o let_v he_o tell_v i_o whether_o a_o precept_n or_o example_n be_v not_o as_o necessary_a in_o all_o those_o case_n as_o in_o that_o of_o baptise_v infant_n and_o last_o whether_o his_o practice_n of_o raise_v and_o begin_v the_o church_n of_o unbaptised_a person_n do_v agree_v with_o the_o primitive_a practice_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o his_o apostle_n that_o begin_v the_o church_n of_o baptize_v matter_n as_o before_o j._n s._n propound_v a_o second_o reason_n of_o his_o opponent_n thus_o the_o scripture_n speak_v of_o no_o church_n before_o baptism_n to_o which_o he_o answer_v as_o he_o do_v to_o that_o of_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n not_o prevail_v against_o the_o church_n he_o must_v distinguish_v he_o say_v a_o mere_a shift_n to_o blind_v his_o reader_n and_o avoid_v the_o truth_n there_o need_v no_o distinction_n at_o all_o in_o the_o case_n he_o will_v not_o take_v it_o well_o if_o any_o shall_v distinguish_v in_o case_n of_o infant_n baptism_n but_o what_o be_v his_o distinction_n it_o be_v betwixt_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o baptism_n and_o the_o administration_n of_o it_o just_a as_o he_o do_v in_o the_o forenamed_a case_n as_o much_o as_o if_o he_o have_v say_v he_o must_v distinguish_v betwixt_o the_o scripture_n that_o teach_v baptism_n and_o baptism_n or_o wash_v according_a to_o the_o scripture_n in_o this_o first_o sense_n baptism_n or_o the_o doctrine_n of_o baptism_n as_o much_o as_o if_o he_o have_v say_v the_o holy_a word_n of_o god_n be_v before_o the_o church_n what_o this_o be_v to_o the_o purpose_n be_v beyond_o my_o judgement_n nor_o yet_o that_o which_o follow_v no_o church_n according_a to_o the_o order_n of_o christ_n testament_n without_o it_o or_o before_o it_o no_o church_n without_o or_o before_o the_o scripture_n how_o this_o be_v to_o the_o matter_n in_o hand_n and_o what_o clear_v or_o rather_o darken_n there_o be_v in_o this_o distinction_n i_o leave_v the_o reader_n to_o judge_v but_o now_o for_o the_o second_o part_n of_o the_o distinction_n namely_o the_o outward_a administration_n of_o baptism_n that_o ever_o follow_v the_o saint_n join_v in_o fellowship_n by_o mutual_a faith_n and_o agreement_n in_o the_o doctrine_n wherein_o consist_v the_o state_v of_o the_o church_n in_o her_o conjoin_v in_o covenant_n which_o ever_o go_v before_o in_o the_o administration_n of_o baptism_n and_o give_v power_n and_o authority_n for_o the_o same_o so_o say_v he_o in_o the_o first_o sense_n the_o church_n be_v not_o before_o baptism_n but_o in_o the_o last_o it_o be_v answ_n the_o sum_n and_o scope_n of_o this_o whole_a matter_n amplify_v and_o enlarge_v be_v utter_o false_a be_v refer_v to_o the_o purpose_n for_o which_o j._n s._n do_v bring_v it_o namely_o to_o prove_v a_o unbaptised_a church_n or_o the_o scripture_n speak_v of_o such_o alas_o this_o be_v far_o from_o prove_v the_o matter_n no_o not_o in_o a_o seem_a way_n in_o this_o case_n it_o may_v be_v true_o say_v from_o the_o beginning_n it_o be_v not_o so_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n be_v fit_v outward_o by_o baptism_n as_o be_v before_o declare_v and_o the_o scripture_n give_v no_o precedent_n of_o such_o church_n officer_n or_o member_n at_o any_o time_n such_o a_o proceed_v be_v clean_o beside_o the_o scripture_n 2._o j._n s._n deceive_v if_o not_o himself_o yet_o other_o in_o what_o he_o set_v down_o in_o refer_v that_o to_o the_o initiation_n of_o a_o church_n which_o be_v only_o true_a of_o the_o proceed_v the_o church_n state_v and_o on_o foot_n in_o the_o world_n according_a to_o god_n of_o baptize_v person_n baptize_v other_o in_o way_n of_o proceed_v in_o a_o orderly_a way_n of_o administration_n so_o it_o be_v at_o the_o beginning_n and_o to_o begin_v otherwise_o be_v not_o according_a to_o the_o pattern_n so_o as_o not_o take_v notice_n of_o the_o difference_n between_o right_a beginning_n and_o orderly_o proceed_v he_o be_v clean_o out_o and_o beside_o the_o truth_n and_o his_o distinction_n will_v appear_v to_o be_v vain_a and_o to_o no_o purpose_n unless_o to_o deceive_v for_o as_o he_o set_v down_o that_o baptism_n ever_o follow_v in_o regard_n of_o the_o administration_n of_o it_o the_o saint_n join_v in_o
reason_n 9_o this_o doctrine_n of_o infant_n baptism_n oppose_v direct_o the_o express_a word_n of_o god_n by_o teach_v that_o infant_n be_v in_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n be_v bear_v of_o believe_a parent_n and_o so_o a_o holy_a seed_n by_o virtue_n of_o which_o they_o have_v right_a to_o baptism_n as_o a_o privilege_n of_o grace_n against_o which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n affirm_v that_o all_o be_v conceive_v in_o sin_n and_o bring_v forth_o in_o iniquity_n and_o so_o by_o nature_n the_o child_n of_o wrath_n and_o under_o the_o curse_n and_o except_o they_o be_v horn_n again_o they_o cannoe_v see_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n psal_n 51._o 5._o etc._n etc._n here_o man_n say_v that_o infant_n be_v clear_a and_o holy_a from_o the_o womb_n and_o so_o be_v subject_n of_o grace_n but_o god_n say_v all_o infant_n as_o well_o one_o as_o other_o be_v first_o in_o sin_n and_o unholy_a and_o subject_n of_o wrath_n until_o the_o second_o birth_n make_v the_o difference_n john_n 3_o answ_n at_o the_o length_n 1._o s._n have_v attain_a to_o the_o full_a number_n of_o his_o reason_n which_o be_v far_o more_o by_o number_n then_o by_o weight_n and_o sure_o this_o last_o be_v not_o in_o the_o least_o behind_o the_o other_o for_o shallowness_n for_o either_o he_o be_v very_o ignorant_a of_o what_o he_o set_v down_o or_o else_o perverseness_n of_o spirit_n carry_v he_o headlong_o to_o the_o multiply_a of_o word_n without_o council_n against_o the_o truth_n for_o first_o i_o will_v ask_v of_o i._o s._n whether_o isaac_n and_o jacob_n and_o the_o infant_n of_o israel_n be_v not_o in_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n whether_o he_o and_o they_o be_v not_o a_o holy_a seed_n by_o virtue_n of_o which_o they_o have_v right_a to_o circumcision_n and_o privilege_n of_o grace_n rom._n 2._o 29._o that_o the_o covenant_n to_o abraham_n be_v a_o covenant_n of_o grace_n i_o suppose_v he_o deny_v not_o that_o circumcision_n be_v a_o privilege_n of_o grace_n the_o seal_n of_o that_o covenant_n the_o apostle_n testify_v in_o the_o case_n of_o abraham_n he_o receive_v it_o as_o the_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n rom._n 4._o 11._o second_o i_o will_v know_v whether_o isaac_n the_o particular_a son_n of_o promise_n 9_o heb._n 11._o 9_o with_o jacob_n fellow-heire_n be_v not_o bear_v in_o sin_n and_o whether_o he_o or_o they_o in_o infancy_n be_v under_o wrath_n so_o as_o he_o can_v not_o be_v in_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n three_o i_o will_v ask_v he_o whether_o child_n be_v out_o of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n and_o bear_v in_o sin_n and_o so_o under_o wrath_n according_a to_o his_o sense_n can_v possible_o be_v convert_v so_o as_o to_o see_v heaven_n if_o they_o 15._o john_n 3_o rom._n 10._o 15._o die_v in_o infancy_n see_v by_o outward_a mean_n they_o can_v come_v to_o believe_v till_o they_o be_v able_a to_o hear_v and_o may_v not_o be_v judge_v within_o the_o covenant_n nor_o baptize_v till_o they_o manifest_a faith_n sure_o according_a to_o his_o opinion_n to_o our_o notion_n they_o be_v all_o debar_v heaven_n at_o a_o blow_n but_o true_o as_o the_o opinion_n be_v so_o be_v the_o consequence_n that_o attend_v it_o erroneous_a and_o false_a but_o in_o as_o much_o as_o this_o stone_n be_v much_o stumble_v at_o by_o some_o of_o that_o way_n i_o shall_v endeavour_v to_o remove_v it_o in_o show_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o infant_n baptism_n agree_v full_o with_o the_o word_n of_o god_n the_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a be_v within_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n external_o gen._n 17._o 7._o that_o this_o covenant_n be_v to_o a_o thousand_o generation_n psal_n 105._o 8._o that_o god_n be_v not_o the_o god_n of_o the_o jew_n only_o but_o of_o the_o gentile_n rom._n 4._o 29._o that_o the_o gentile_n be_v fellow_n heir_n of_o the_o same_o body_n and_o partaker_n of_o the_o promise_n in_o christ_n eph._n 3._o 6._o that_o there_o be_v no_o 12._o rom._n 10._o 12._o difference_n but_o that_o he_o that_o be_v lord_n of_o all_o be_v rich_a to_o all_o rom._n 10._o 12._o his_o grace_n and_o mercy_n be_v not_o lessen_v but_o enlarge_v all_o his_o promise_n of_o grace_n be_v to_o the_o gentile_n yea_o and_o amen_o in_o christ_n 2_o cor._n 1._o 24._o 18._o act._n 15._o 18._o touch_v inward_a sanctity_n and_o inward_a right_n in_o the_o covenant_n as_o it_o be_v god_n work_n and_o interess_n of_o who_o it_o please_v he_o so_o it_o be_v only_o know_v to_o he_o to_o who_o all_o his_o work_n be_v know_v from_o the_o 14._o mar._n 22._o 14._o foundation_n of_o the_o world_n a_o thing_n not_o within_o our_o sphere_n we_o be_v to_o meddle_v with_o thing_n reveal_v and_o to_o proceed_v according_a to_o that_o second_o this_o covenant_n of_o grace_n external_o of_o which_o we_o treat_v it_o be_v extend_v more_o large_o then_o according_a to_o j._n s._n his_o narrow_a 29._o deu._n 29._o 29._o mind_v of_o it_o that_o seem_v as_o if_o he_o will_v thrust_v himself_o into_o the_o room_n of_o god_n meddle_v with_o thing_n secret_a and_o proceed_v in_o his_o measure_n of_o thing_n that_o way_n make_v the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n external_o to_o be_v with_o the_o invisible_a elect_n and_o not_o with_o the_o call_v in_o jesus_n 14._o mat._n 22._o 14._o christ_n of_o who_o many_o be_v call_v but_o few_o choose_v so_o as_o he_o be_v not_o able_a i_o be_o sure_a as_o infallible_a to_o show_v one_o person_n of_o that_o covenant_n whereas_o it_o be_v and_o may_v be_v know_v that_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n be_v make_v with_o christ_n kingdom_n his_o church_n and_o that_o consist_v of_o virgin_n five_o wise_a and_o five_o foolish_a and_o israel_n though_o as_o the_o sand_n of_o the_o 2._o mat._n 25._o 2._o sea_n yet_o but_o a_o remnant_n shall_v be_v save_v if_o j._n s._n will_v but_o be_v please_v to_o 27._o rom._n 9_o 27._o take_v notice_n of_o the_o outwardnesse_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n as_o before_o as_o well_o as_o the_o inwardness_n of_o it_o the_o outwardnesse_n of_o the_o matter_n to_o which_o the_o covenant_n be_v make_v as_o well_o as_o the_o inwardness_n of_o the_o matter_n know_v only_o to_o god_n he_o will_v sure_o be_v of_o another_o mind_n and_o will_v not_o say_v it_o cross_v the_o word_n of_o god_n to_o hold_v child_n within_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n for_o true_o if_o they_o be_v not_o neither_o inward_o nor_o outward_o in_o the_o same_o they_o be_v in_o a_o sad_a case_n be_v wonderful_a loser_n by_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n into_o the_o world_n with_o grace_n and_o 17._o joh._n 1._o 17._o truth_n by_o who_o so_o many_o gain_n but_o it_o be_v evident_a by_o what_o before_o be_v declare_v that_o they_o be_v in_o that_o covenant_n and_o so_o be_v to_o be_v seal_v as_o other_o with_o the_o seal_n of_o it_o and_o that_o so_o do_v be_v full_o according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o say_v he_o the_o holy_a ghost_n affirm_v that_o all_o be_v conceive_v in_o sin_n child_n of_o wrath_n and_o under_o the_o curse_n so_o as_o they_o can_v see_v the_o kingdom_n ignorance_n gross_a ignorance_n of_o god_n unless_o bear_v again_o to_o which_o i_o say_v isaac_n and_o jacob_n heir_n of_o the_o promise_n be_v bear_v in_o sin_n and_o yet_o in_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n so_o soon_o and_o before_o they_o be_v bear_v j._n s._n be_v yet_o beside_o the_o matter_n and_o much_o to_o seek_v a_o little_a to_o unfold_v this_o matter_n so_o hide_v to_o j._n s._n and_o those_o of_o his_o way_n there_o be_v a_o different_a consideration_n to_o be_v have_v of_o this_o matter_n even_o as_o there_o be_v of_o a_o person_n of_o year_n who_o may_v true_o be_v say_v to_o be_v a_o saint_n and_o also_o a_o sinner_n in_o a_o different_a sense_n so_o the_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v bear_v in_o sin_n and_o bring_v forth_o in_o iniquity_n and_o so_o in_o that_o consideration_n under_o wrath_n and_o yet_o in_o another_o mind_v bear_v the_o holy_a seed_n of_o promise_n even_o as_o isaac_n and_o the_o israelite_n of_o old_a as_o witness_v the_o apostle_n you_o be_v the_o child_n of_o the_o promise_n and_o again_o the_o promise_n be_v to_o you_o and_o your_o child_n 19_o act._n 3._o 25._o act._n 2._o 19_o let_v it_o but_o be_v consider_v in_o the_o case_n of_o isaac_n in_o particular_a who_o be_v in_o a_o special_a manner_n the_o child_n of_o promise_n yet_o he_o be_v bear_v in_o sin_n etc._n etc._n let_v j._n s._n and_o those_o of_o his_o way_n use_v their_o wit_n and_o reason_n in_o stead_n of_o faith_n to_o find_v out_o this_o matter_n some_o other_o way_n and_o they_o shall_v but_o tire_v themselves_o in_o vain_a it_o will_v appear_v
rise_v again_o nay_o do_v not_o this_o prove_v plain_o that_o death_n have_v dominion_n over_o they_o and_o that_o they_o be_v thereby_o destroy_v for_o otherwise_o how_o shall_v there_o be_v place_n for_o their_o rise_n again_o and_o indeed_o the_o restore_n of_o the_o church_n to_o her_o be_v do_v necessary_o imply_v the_o loss_n of_o her_o be_v otherwise_o there_o will_v be_v no_o place_n for_o restore_v if_o all_o man_n have_v be_v destroy_v at_o the_o deluge_n of_o noah_n a_o new_a creation_n have_v be_v necessary_a happy_o he_o may_v think_v their_o be_v something_o in_o that_o that_o god_n be_v not_o the_o god_n of_o the_o dead_a but_o of_o the_o live_n in_o as_o much_o as_o all_o live_v to_o he_o indeed_o this_o may_v prove_v the_o soul_n immortality_n and_o live_n with_o god_n but_o what_o sense_n it_o have_v in_o regard_n of_o the_o church_n be_v beyond_o my_o thought_n for_o certain_o if_o it_o have_v reference_n to_o the_o church_n it_o will_v enforce_v the_o be_v and_o continuace_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o the_o patriarchall_a church_n which_o cease_v long_o ago_o to_o imagine_v their_o continuance_n what_o can_v be_v more_o vain_a but_o further_a if_o because_o all_o live_v to_o god_n therefore_o the_o church_n always_o have_v a_o be_v where_o be_v place_n leave_v for_o her_o death_n and_o cessation_n true_o this_o be_v a_o matter_n too_o far_o fetch_v to_o prove_v any_o thing_n in_o this_o matter_n that_o may_v stand_v he_o in_o any_o stead_n for_o if_o any_o thing_n be_v gather_v from_o it_o it_o must_v be_v that_o as_o abraham_n and_o so_o other_o prophet_n dye_v and_o leave_v the_o world_n so_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n die_v also_o and_o be_v destroy_v out_o of_o the_o world_n but_o if_o he_o shall_v say_v abraham_n and_o the_o rest_n live_v notwithstanding_o the_o answer_n be_v they_o live_v indeed_o another_o way_n not_o in_o regard_n of_o their_o mortal_a body_n but_o in_o regard_n of_o their_o immortal_a soul_n their_o outward_a visible_a body_n be_v destroy_v and_o in_o the_o dust_n so_o the_o outward_a visible_a church_n be_v destroy_v and_o cease_v to_o be_v but_o the_o inwardness_n of_o it_o the_o life_n and_o soul_n to_o wit_n jesus_n christ_n be_v in_o heaven_n with_o god_n what_o this_o make_v to_o the_o matter_n in_o hand_n i_o leave_v the_o reader_n to_o judge_v and_o this_o way_n say_v j._n s._n i_o suppose_v christ_n may_v have_v and_o enjoy_v as_o good_a a_o wife_n ever_o as_o any_o can_v be_v preserve_v for_o he_o under_o the_o defection_n of_o antichrist_n answ_n this_o way_n be_v a_o mere_a supposition_n without_o reason_n and_o against_o sense_n that_o christ_n shall_v have_v sometime_o a_o wife_n and_o sometime_o none_o and_o then_o one_o again_o and_o yet_o he_o shall_v have_v ever_o one_o preserve_v it_o be_v good_a to_o lay_v aside_o such_o senseless_a supposition_n and_o to_o believe_v the_o scripture_n that_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o man_n of_o sin_n sometime_o sit_v in_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n and_o that_o god_n temple_n 4._o 2_o thes_n 2._o 4._o remain_v and_o hell_n gate_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o it_o though_o the_o church_n christ_n wife_n may_v go_v astray_o and_o be_v corrupt_v yet_o he_o 18_o matth._n 16._o 18_o that_o be_v her_o husband_n will_v not_o forsake_v but_o will_v reform_v she_o and_o refine_v she_o and_o put_v new_a garment_n on_o she_o sure_o he_o have_v read_v what_o god_n say_v of_o old_a to_o his_o spouse_n thou_o have_v play_v the_o harlot_n with_o many_o 22._o jer._n 3._o 10._o 22._o lover_n yet_o return_v to_o i_o say_v the_o lord_n i_o be_o thy_o husband_n and_o thy_o maker_n but_o happy_o if_o he_o have_v then_o live_v he_o will_v have_v suppose_v 5._o esa_n 54_o 5._o that_o christ_n may_v have_v have_v or_o have_v make_v to_o himself_o a_o new_a as_o he_o in_o this_o case_n endeavour_v to_o do_v for_o he_o as_o good_a a_o wife_n as_o that_o that_o be_v so_o corrupt_a and_o defile_v the_o truth_n be_v there_o be_v more_o rich_a grace_n and_o free_a mercy_n in_o jesus_n christ_n then_o to_o take_v advantage_n and_o to_o refuse_v and_o put_v away_o for_o he_o be_v the_o lord_n that_o change_v not_o and_o therefore_o his_o church_n be_v not_o destroy_v no_o notwithstanding_o the_o evil_n she_o 6._o mal._n 3._o 6._o fall_v into_o for_o he_o hate_v put_v away_o it_o be_v more_o suitable_a for_o j._n s._n and_o those_o of_o his_o way_n to_o profess_v 16._o mal._n 2._o 16._o the_o doctrine_n of_o work_n which_o be_v suitable_a to_o their_o other_o opinion_n than_o the_o doctrine_n of_o free_a grace_n unless_o they_o will_v be_v more_o true_a to_o their_o principle_n as_o in_o this_o particular_a more_o especial_o wherein_o they_o hold_v corruption_n dissolve_v the_o marriage_n bond_n and_o make_v the_o relation_n to_o cease_v and_o cause_v the_o everlasting_a lord_n to_o change_v and_o his_o covenant_n to_o fail_v for_o evermore_o psal_n 77._o 8._o the_o follow_a complaint_n and_o story_n by_o which_o it_o be_v illustrate_v i_o have_v speak_v unto_o it_o before_o in_o which_o matter_n of_o guilt_n if_o he_o and_o those_o of_o his_o way_n shall_v take_v water_n and_o wash_v their_o hand_n they_o will_v notwithstanding_o be_v no_o less_o guilty_a than_o pilate_n be_v of_o jesus_n blood_n but_o after_o this_o he_o tell_v of_o his_o fear_n and_o that_o be_v that_o man_n put_v more_o in_o baptism_n then_o do_v of_o right_o belong_v to_o it_o that_o do_v prefer_v it_o before_o the_o church_n and_o all_o other_o ordinance_n beside_o answ_n be_v not_o j._n s._n and_o those_o of_o his_o way_n sick_a of_o this_o disease_n and_o that_o as_o dangerous_o as_o those_o he_o be_v in_o such_o fear_n of_o how_o otherwise_o shall_v it_o be_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v so_o often_o baptize_v over_o and_o over_o and_o over_o again_o and_o make_v a_o church_n that_o they_o may_v make_v baptism_n i_o leave_v the_o reader_n to_o judge_v 2._o how_o do_v this_o appear_v which_o he_o so_o fear_v in_o other_o that_o they_o prefer_v it_o before_o the_o cburch_n and_o all_o ordinance_n beside_o answ_n it_o be_v only_o to_o the_o qualification_n of_o the_o matter_n external_o that_o it_o may_v be_v suitable_a to_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o building_n ephes_n 5._o 26._o but_o yet_o this_o charge_n be_v not_o altogether_o true_a for_o they_o do_v not_o prefer_v baptism_n before_o the_o word_n and_o the_o publish_n of_o it_o by_o which_o faith_n come_v nay_o they_o do_v not_o prefer_v it_o above_o or_o before_o the_o church_n the_o church_n be_v the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n that_o be_v of_o the_o truth_n 15._o 1_o tim._n 3._o 15._o of_o ordinance_n and_o divine_a worship_n and_o so_o of_o baptism_n in_o the_o proceed_v of_o it_o in_o a_o right_a way_n which_o church_n the_o matter_n of_o it_o at_o the_o prepare_n of_o it_o by_o john_n be_v first_o baptize_v and_o after_o lay_v together_o in_o the_o build_n so_o of_o this_o matter_n thus_o by_o john_n preach_v prepare_v and_o by_o his_o wash_n in_o the_o second_o place_n fit_v be_v in_o after_o time_n gather_v and_o lay_v into_o a_o holy_a build_n to_o the_o lord_n which_o church_n way_n begin_v and_o settle_v in_o the_o world_n augment_v and_o increase_v those_o wash_v wash_v other_o according_a to_o christ_n appointment_n never_o any_o unwashed_a person_n be_v add_v or_o lay_v into_o the_o build_n since_o the_o church_n begin_v it_o be_v necessary_a that_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o temple_n be_v outward_o fit_v that_o it_o may_v suit_v with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o building_n be_v lay_v thereon_o so_o as_o j._n s._n may_v be_v satisfy_v that_o his_o fear_n in_o the_o first_o place_n be_v causeless_a the_o church_n be_v on_o foot_n according_a to_o god_n baptism_n in_o administration_n follow_v but_o in_o further_a declare_v the_o reason_n of_o his_o fear_n he_o say_v for_o they_o can_v erect_v a_o church_n take_v in_o and_o cast_v out_o member_n elect_v and_o ordain_v officer_n administer_v the_o supper_n and_o all_o anew_o without_o look_v after_o succession_n any_o further_a than_o the_o scripture_n but_o as_o for_o baptism_n they_o must_v have_v that_o successive_o from_o the_o apostle_n though_o it_o come_v through_o the_o hand_n of_o pope_n joan_n what_o the_o reason_n of_o this_o be_v that_o man_n can_v do_v all_o from_o the_o word_n but_o only_a baptism_n and_o that_o must_v come_v by_o man_n even_o by_o the_o man_n of_o sin_n answ_n to_o balance_v the_o thought_n of_o j._n s._n i_o will_v present_v a_o case_n to_o his_o consideration_n suppose_v he_o have_v live_v in_o the_o apostasy_n of_o the_o ten_o tribe_n yea_o of_o judah_n apostasy_n and_o return_v to_o the_o lord_n
fellowship_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v only_o true_a of_o the_o proceed_v of_o the_o church_n as_o before_o but_o this_o join_n be_v to_o be_v of_o baptize_v matter_n as_o it_o be_v at_o the_o beginning_n which_o necessary_o call_v either_o for_o a_o person_n from_o heaven_n as_o in_o the_o instance_n of_o john_n or_o the_o continuance_n of_o baptize_v person_n in_o the_o world_n from_o john_n downward_o as_o be_v the_o case_n now_o though_o j._n s._n will_v not_o acknowledge_v the_o same_o the_o sum_n of_o the_o distinction_n he_o make_v to_o be_v this_o in_o the_o first_o sense_n the_o church_n be_v not_o before_o the_o scripture_n in_o the_o last_o sense_n it_o be_v before_o baptism_n utter_o untrue_a as_o before_o j._n s._n tell_v we_o his_o distinction_n be_v observe_v we_o be_v not_o to_o deny_v a_o church_n to_o be_v a_o church_n though_o the_o scripture_n do_v not_o so_o call_v it_o so_o the_o scripture_n of_o which_o he_o speak_v so_o great_a thing_n in_o case_n of_o raise_v baptism_n lose_v be_v now_o become_v deficient_a and_o we_o may_v be_v wise_a than_o they_o teach_v we_o and_o call_v a_o people_n a_o church_n though_o they_o do_v not_o so_o call_v they_o or_o teach_v we_o so_o to_o do_v and_o we_o be_v not_o so_o engage_v to_o speak_v as_o the_o word_n of_o god_n his_o reason_n of_o this_o strange_a divinity_n be_v the_o church_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o many_o of_o the_o new_a be_v church_n before_o they_o be_v so_o call_v but_o i_o say_v they_o be_v not_o right_o gather_v church_n before_o they_o be_v baptize_v neither_o do_v the_o scripture_n give_v that_o appellation_n to_o any_o in_o a_o relative_a way_n to_o christ_n and_o we_o may_v not_o be_v wise_a above_o what_o be_v write_v cornelius_n and_o his_o friend_n come_v together_o be_v no_o right_n orderly_o gather_v church_n before_o baptism_n neither_o do_v the_o scripture_n so_o call_v they_o after_o all_o say_v that_o may_v be_v he_o demand_v why_o it_o may_v not_o be_v so_o that_o a_o church_n may_v be_v a_o church_n before_o baptism_n be_v administer_v why_o may_v not_o child_n be_v baptize_v i_o will_v ask_v he_o let_v he_o tell_v i_o that_o i_o will_v tell_v he_o why_o again_o he_o say_v a_o church_n be_v so_o a_o church_n before_o baptism_n as_o that_o the_o end_n of_o her_o union_n be_v for_o communion_n j._n s._n at_o the_o last_o do_v in_o effect_n in_o a_o modest_a way_n give_v up_o the_o cause_n a_o church_n so_o a_o church_n that_o be_v in_o another_o way_n then_o at_o the_o beginning_n it_o be_v when_o it_o be_v first_o instate_v again_o in_o another_o way_n then_o according_a to_o a_o right_a constitution_n and_o orderly_a way_n of_o serve_v god_n again_o be_v a_o church_n so_o as_o a_o betroth_a virgin_n be_v a_o wife_n before_o the_o day_n of_o her_o espouslas_n and_o play_v the_o harlot_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n and_o so_o defile_v the_o marriage_n bed_n so_o be_v a_o unbaptised_a church_n a_o church_n of_o christ_n after_o this_o he_o be_v up_o with_o the_o substance_n of_o his_o five_o reason_n before_o allege_v to_o prove_v that_o baptism_n be_v not_o the_o form_n of_o the_o church_n but_o the_o covenant_n and_o what_o then_o for_o i_o will_v not_o meddle_v with_o his_o reason_n be_v they_o right_a or_o wrong_n a_o church_n may_v be_v in_o covenant_n and_o fellowship_n before_o baptism_n be_v administer_v so_o as_o cornelius_n and_o his_o friend_n be_v but_o i_o say_v such_o a_o church_n can_v never_o administer_v baptism_n according_a to_o god_n unless_o they_o have_v a_o man_n send_v to_o they_o as_o john_n be_v send_v or_o as_o peter_n be_v to_o cornelius_n and_o his_o friend_n he_o be_v please_v to_o call_v such_o a_o church_n who_o the_o scripture_n call_v not_o so_o but_o what_o he_o here_o set_v down_o he_o do_v as_o former_o but_o say_v it_o and_o not_o prove_v it_o so_o as_o we_o need_v not_o much_o stand_n upon_o it_o a_o people_n be_v a_o church_n by_o covenant_n he_o say_v to_o which_o ordinance_n be_v annex_v but_o the_o matter_n of_o this_o church_n be_v to_o be_v first_o outward_o sit_v by_o baptism_n a_o orderly_a way_n be_v necessary_a and_o that_o be_v by_o person_n send_v of_o god_n as_o be_v john_n here_o he_o deceive_v again_o affirm_v that_o of_o his_o so_o a_o church_n which_o be_v only_o true_a of_o a_o church_n state_v and_o on_o foot_n according_a to_o god_n in_o the_o world_n as_o be_v the_o church_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n baptize_v and_o so_o the_o matter_n outward_o sit_v by_o john_n before_o the_o building_n be_v erect_v he_o quote_v gen._n 17._o 11._o ezek._n 16._o 8._o act._n 2._o 41._o ephes_n 4._o 5._o and_o conclude_v thus_o so_o here_o be_v a_o church_n before_o ordinance_n or_o before_o ever_o baptism_n be_v administer_v either_o by_o john_n the_o baptist_n or_o the_o apostle_n to_o which_o i_o answer_v in_o regard_n of_o those_o two_o place_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n allege_v in_o this_o matter_n in_o question_n it_o be_v at_o least_o as_o far_o off_o as_o the_o prove_v the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n from_o circumcision_n or_o their_o be_v baptize_v of_o old_a to_o moses_n in_o the_o cloud_n and_o sea_n which_o he_o 10._o 1_o cor._n 10._o account_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n as_o indeed_o this_o be_v little_a to_o the_o purpose_n they_o use_v to_o ask_v in_o the_o instance_n before_o when_o produce_v whether_o that_o baptism_n of_o the_o cloud_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o baptism_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n i_o in_o like_a manner_n ask_v he_o whether_o those_o be_v the_o ministerial_a church_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n alas_o this_o matter_n be_v too_o far_o fetch_v i_o can_v tell_v he_o of_o a_o church_n and_o a_o great_a one_o too_o without_o faith_n or_o the_o profession_n of_o it_o namely_o that_o gather_v by_o demetrius_n and_o his_o fellow_n craftsman_n act._n 19_o 25._o 46._o he_o happy_o will_v count_v it_o to_o no_o purpose_n true_o so_o be_v his_o matter_n here_o as_o for_o those_o instance_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n sure_o he_o be_v much_o over-seen_a in_o they_o and_o very_o inconsiderate_a those_o act._n 2._o 41._o have_v break_v bread_n and_o pray_v and_o be_v baptize_v before_o they_o be_v a_o church_n as_o for_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n no_o question_n but_o that_o be_v also_o baptize_v in_o like_a manner_n and_o he_o may_v from_o that_o place_n as_o well_o prove_v a_o church_n to_o be_v before_o faith_n as_o before_o baptism_n by_o any_o thing_n i_o can_v perceive_v certain_o he_o have_v little_a aim_n in_o bring_v such_o place_n of_o scripture_n to_o prove_v a_o people_n to_o be_v a_o church_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n before_o baptism_n be_v administer_v to_o they_o at_o least_o that_o it_o shall_v be_v so_o before_o john_n baptism_n that_o according_a to_o the_o commission_n of_o god_n administer_v baptism_n to_o fit_v the_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n before_o ever_o it_o be_v lay_v into_o form_n a_o further_a objection_n he_o set_v down_o thus_o some_o say_v from_o act._n 2._o 41._o they_o be_v add_v to_o the_o church_n after_o they_o be_v baptize_v what_o be_v his_o answer_n if_o it_o be_v so_o they_o shall_v neither_o put_v on_o christ_n nor_o yet_o be_v baptize_v into_o one_o body_n nor_o to_o the_o true_a profession_n of_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n etc._n etc._n direct_o against_o these_o scripture_n gal._n 3._o 27._o 1_o cor._n 12._o 13._o matth._n 28._o 19_o answ_n i_o be_o very_o sorry_a to_o see_v such_o weakness_n in_o person_n pretend_v to_o and_o promise_v much_o strength_n of_o knowledge_n for_o first_o all_o those_o that_o john_n baptist_n baptize_v can_v neither_o put_v on_o christ_n nor_o be_v baptize_v into_o one_o body_n nor_o into_o the_o true_a profession_n of_o the_o father_n etc._n etc._n by_o his_o account_n and_o reckon_n and_o so_o his_o practice_n of_o baptise_v be_v contrary_a to_o those_o scripture_n by_o his_o reckon_n be_v not_o john_n baptist_n to_o blame_v second_o how_o appear_v it_o that_o if_o person_n send_v of_o god_n as_o be_v john_n of_o old_a as_o be_v necessary_a to_o raise_v baptism_n if_o it_o be_v lose_v out_o of_o the_o world_n as_o they_o hold_v baptise_v according_o to_o their_o commission_n that_o those_o they_o baptize_v can_v put_v on_o christ_n nor_o be_v baptize_v into_o one_o body_n nor_o into_o the_o true_a profession_n of_o the_o trinity_n only_o because_o j._n s._n say_v so_o without_o any_o show_n of_o ground_n for_o three_o those_o scripture_n cite_v have_v no_o such_o thing_n in_o they_o certain_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o any_o rational_a man_n neither_o can_v it_o be_v imagine_v that_o there_o be_v any_o let_v in_o regard_n of_o any_o of_o they_o why_o a_o person_n send_v of_o god_n shall_v not_o baptize_v before_o the_o church_n be_v form_v for_o that_o in_o act_n 2._o 41._o he_o say_v it_o be_v only_o declarative_a of_o the_o great_a increase_n of_o the_o church_n through_o god_n goodness_n to_o which_o i_o answer_v that_o it_o declare_v plain_o that_o they_o be_v of_o and_o by_o that_o church_n baptize_v that_o they_o be_v add_v unto_o in_o as_o much_o as_o the_o church_n receive_v no_o unwashen_n one_o if_o it_o be_v question_v whether_o the_o church_n receive_v they_o before_o she_o baptize_v they_o or_o baptize_v they_o before_o she_o receive_v they_o i_o will_v give_v my_o thought_n that_o in_o strictness_n of_o conclude_v neither_o be_v first_o for_o these_o be_v so_o interweave_v that_o they_o go_v together_o &_o be_v unseparable_a as_o thus_o person_n believe_v be_v unbaptise_v the_o church_n open_v her_o arm_n to_o receive_v they_o but_o before_o she_o can_v full_o embrace_v they_o they_o must_v be_v wash_v and_o so_o make_v like_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o body_n there_o be_v a_o different_a case_n to_o be_v take_v knowledge_n of_o first_o of_o the_o seed_n of_o the_o church_n by_o generation_n i_o mean_v they_o be_v of_o the_o church_n first_o and_o baptize_v for_o righteousness_n sake_n because_o they_o be_v of_o the_o church_n and_o for_o the_o end_n before_o specify_v second_o the_o case_n of_o convert_a infidel_n their_o access_n to_o the_o church_n and_o ordinance_n be_v as_o before_o as_o it_o be_v in_o like_a manner_n of_o old_a in_o israel_n the_o infant_n be_v circumcise_v because_o they_o be_v a_o part_n of_o israel_n that_o they_o may_v answer_v the_o whole_a but_o the_o convert_v of_o the_o nation_n they_o be_v circumcise_v that_o they_o may_v be_v of_o the_o church_n and_o have_v fellowship_n in_o the_o same_o the_o case_n i_o conceive_v to_o be_v even_o so_o now_o which_o i_o note_v in_o way_n of_o digression_n as_o a_o touch_n to_o be_v 48._o exod._n 12._o 48._o consider_v of_o though_o happy_o j._n s._n will_v think_v it_o to_o no_o purpose_n there_o be_v another_o argument_n which_o he_o set_v down_o and_o make_v answer_v unto_o all_o the_o difference_n amount_v but_o to_o that_o of_o the_o circumstance_n of_o time_n and_o have_v nothing_o in_o it_o substantial_a i_o shall_v not_o make_v the_o difference_n great_a but_o shall_v leave_v j._n s._n to_o his_o constitute_a cause_n of_o his_o unbaptised_a church_n and_o shall_v forbear_v to_o trouble_v he_o or_o myself_o or_o the_o reader_n any_o further_a but_o leave_v all_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o godly_a wise_a finis_fw-la errata_fw-la pag._n 11._o l._n 20._o for_o infant_n r._n intent_n p._n 13._o l._n 16._o for_o shrine_n r._n shrink_v p._n 14._o l._n 36._o for_o and_z privilege_n r._n a_o privilege_n p._n 45._o l._n 34._o for_o constitation_n r._n constitution_n
give_v be_v to_o all_o order_n and_o ordinance_n it_o do_v give_v be_v of_o direction_n and_o warrant_n declare_v what_o be_v good_a and_o lawful_a and_o what_o not_o it_o act_v nothing_o god_n require_v a_o orderly_a way_n and_o that_o be_v by_o the_o church_n now_o courteous_a reader_n do_v but_o serious_o consider_v how_o j._n s._n have_v clear_v the_o way_n of_o raise_v and_o begin_v again_o baptism_n lose_v and_o fall_v out_o of_o the_o world_n as_o he_o believe_v and_o how_o he_o have_v remove_v the_o difficulty_n in_o the_o way_n which_o he_o eall_v cloud_n that_o darken_v the_o sky_n see_v if_o thou_o do_v not_o yet_o find_v it_o very_o dark_a and_o cloudy_a as_o ever_o and_o never_o the_o clear_a for_o all_o the_o labour_n and_o pain_n he_o have_v take_v and_o whether_o his_o labour_n and_o travel_v herein_o have_v be_v to_o any_o more_o purpose_n than_o the_o wash_n of_o the_o blackmoore_n for_o first_o of_o all_o whereas_o he_o refer_v thou_o to_o the_o scripture_n as_o the_o successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n in_o his_o opinion_n first_o thou_o see_v the_o scripture_n be_v before_o the_o apostle_n and_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o be_v guide_v by_o they_o second_o that_o the_o scripture_n be_v only_a directive_n and_o act_v nothing_o at_o all_o neither_o can_v they_o and_o beside_o they_o do_v not_o direct_v to_o any_o such_o course_n as_o the_o constitute_v a_o unbaptised_a church_n or_o authorise_v unbaptise_v person_n to_o baptize_v three_o thou_o see_v what_o great_a cause_n of_o doubt_n and_o question_v there_o be_v according_a to_o his_o opinion_n whether_o these_o scripture_n be_v the_o scripture_n of_o god_n and_o whether_o they_o have_v not_o lose_v their_o be_v have_v be_v so_o long_o in_o babylon_n and_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o antichristian_o especial_o if_o it_o be_v mind_v that_o they_o be_v by_o antichristian_o translate_v into_o our_o native_a tongue_n their_o translate_n must_v needs_o make_v they_o antichristian_a and_o to_o be_v reject_v as_o false_a as_o well_o as_o their_o baptism_n where_o will_v j._n s._n be_v then_o do_v thou_o but_o think_v for_o the_o raise_v a_o new_a his_o church_n and_o baptism_n which_o i_o will_v wish_v he_o and_o those_o of_o his_o way_n to_o consider_v of_o well_o but_o then_o in_o the_o second_o place_n god_n be_v to_o be_v seek_v as_o he_o hold_v in_o a_o orderly_a way_n according_a to_o what_o he_o have_v declare_v as_o his_o judgement_n and_o this_o orderly_a way_n be_v by_o the_o church_n right_o gather_v and_o constitute_v to_o who_o christ_n have_v commit_v the_o power_n consider_v good_a reader_n in_o the_o first_o place_n that_o if_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o antichristian_a as_o his_o opinion_n enforce_v that_o they_o have_v in_o they_o no_o ground_n or_o warrant_v by_o any_o example_n or_o precept_n for_o such_o a_o unbaptised_a church_n neither_o can_v such_o a_o suppose_a church_n be_v orderly_o constitute_v or_o the_o proceed_v thereof_o orderly_o the_o scripture_n be_v whole_o silent_a concern_v any_o such_o thing_n this_o conceit_n of_o so_o make_v christ_n church_n and_o so_o make_v baptism_n be_v a_o mere_a popish_a tenent_n and_o the_o proceed_v therein_o like_a unto_o they_o in_o such_o like_a case_n so_o as_o this_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n baptism_n be_v according_a to_o his_o opinion_n destroy_v in_o babylon_n and_o there_o be_v no_o orderly_a church_n of_o christ_n in_o earth_n to_o be_v find_v as_o he_o hold_v nor_o no_o christ_n moses_n eliah_n or_o prophet_n from_o heaven_n appear_v nor_o yet_o any_o that_o by_o sign_n and_o miracle_n can_v prove_v the_o truth_n of_o their_o mission_n i_o conceive_v it_o necessary_o follow_v and_o i_o willing_o leave_v all_o man_n free_a to_o judge_v of_o it_o that_o j._n s._n be_v yet_o for_o all_o his_o clear_n in_o a_o great_a straight_o and_o under_o a_o dark_a cloud_n out_o of_o and_o from_o under_o which_o he_o will_v not_o be_v able_a to_o get_v unless_o he_o do_v as_o saul_n do_v make_v bold_a to_o do_v that_o which_o be_v unwarrantable_a and_o so_o run_v before_o he_o be_v send_v and_o do_v that_o which_o god_n never_o speak_v any_o word_n about_o the_o which_o he_o shall_v do_v well_o to_o take_v further_a knowledge_n of_o chap._n iii_o contain_v a_o defence_n of_o the_o judgement_n of_o such_o as_o hold_v that_o baptism_n have_v continue_v god_n ordinance_n in_o the_o apostasy_n of_o antichrist_n notwithstanding_o the_o corruption_n attend_v of_o it_o in_o way_n of_o answer_n to_o the_o cavil_n and_o exception_n of_o j._n s._n against_o the_o same_o before_o that_o j._n s._n can_v finish_v the_o matter_n in_o the_o former_a chapter_n and_o clear_v it_o as_o he_o pretend_v to_o do_v he_o find_v some_o tenant_n in_o his_o way_n as_o opposite_a to_o that_o pretend_a truth_n but_o indeed_o error_n which_o he_o endeavour_v to_o maintain_v the_o which_o he_o set_v down_o thus_o first_o such_o as_o stand_v for_o a_o personal_a succession_n again_o thus_o a_o word_n or_o two_o to_o such_o as_o hold_v succession_n in_o the_o defection_n of_o antichrist_n again_o such_o as_o hold_v baptism_n by_o personal_a succession_n as_o in_o pag._n 39_o may_v be_v see_v to_o which_o i_o answer_v first_o that_o sure_a j._n s._n mistake_v himself_o be_v never_o able_a to_o make_v it_o appear_v that_o any_o person_n or_o person_n do_v so_o hold_v so_o i_o may_v let_v he_o alone_o to_o contest_v with_o his_o own_o fancy_n but_o in_o as_o much_o as_o he_o may_v happy_o have_v meet_v with_o some_o that_o hold_v the_o continuation_n of_o baptism_n as_o god_n ordinance_n in_o that_o defection_n not_o in_o way_n of_o succession_n that_o be_v no_o way_n proper_a to_o a_o ordinance_n return_v home_n unto_o himself_o his_o phrase_n of_o succession_n as_o darken_v the_o truth_n i_o shall_v apply_v myself_o to_o take_v knowledge_n of_o his_o scope_n and_o purpose_n first_o he_o say_v such_o have_v receive_v a_o sufficient_a answer_n that_o hold_v so_o in_o what_o he_o have_v write_v before_o to_o which_o i_o answer_v indeed_o if_o he_o may_v be_v his_o own_o judge_n in_o his_o own_o cause_n it_o may_v be_v so_o it_o be_v much_o better_a that_o other_o shall_v have_v say_v so_o and_o praise_v he_o than_o he_o thus_o his_o own_o work_n but_o what_o be_v it_o that_o he_o have_v prove_v before_o in_o his_o conceit_n that_o all_o the_o world_n be_v unbaptise_v only_o he_o and_o those_o of_o his_o way_n be_v he_o not_o a_o mighty_a champion_n thus_o to_o nullify_v and_o make_v void_a the_o christianity_n of_o all_o christian_n in_o the_o world_n it_o be_v more_o than_o turk_n can_v ever_o do_v by_o all_o the_o force_n and_o power_n they_o have_v he_o have_v yet_o a_o word_n or_o two_o more_o to_o say_v to_o such_o as_o hold_v contrary_a to_o his_o erroneous_a conclusion_n that_o baptism_n have_v continue_v and_o do_v continue_v god_n ordinance_n etc._n etc._n and_o first_o he_o begin_v by_o way_n of_o querie_n thus_o if_o they_o mean_v by_o defection_n the_o outward_a form_n of_o worship_n and_o government_n ecclesiastical_a as_o he_o think_v they_o do_v answ_n be_v defection_n of_o so_o hard_a and_o doubtful_a sense_n with_o j._n s._n as_o he_o shall_v query_n thus_o and_o go_v by_o think_v he_o may_v know_v that_o defection_n or_o defilement_n pollution_n or_o corruption_n be_v of_o one_o nature_n and_o that_o there_o be_v a_o real_a difference_n betwixt_o corruption_n and_o the_o thing_n corrupt_v between_o defilement_n and_o the_o thing_n defile_v betwixt_o religion_n and_o god_n ordinance_n and_o man_n addition_n to_o and_o detraction_n from_o the_o same_o they_o mean_v that_o the_o ordinance_n and_o in_o particular_a baptism_n have_v continue_v from_o the_o apostle_n downward_o through_o all_o the_o apostasy_n and_o defilement_n that_o have_v attend_v religion_n and_o it_o to_o this_o day_n just_o as_o circumeision_n of_o old_a do_v continue_v god_n ordinance_n in_o the_o apostasy_n and_o defilement_n of_o the_o ten_o tribe_n under_o jeroboam_n and_o likewise_o in_o the_o time_n of_o manasses_n in_o judah_n this_o be_v their_o meaning_n and_o what_o then_o then_o say_v he_o all_o the_o power_n and_o authority_n that_o ever_o carry_v out_o any_o administration_n or_o constitute_v ordinance_n depend_v on_o the_o same_o just_a as_o circumcision_n depend_v on_o the_o calf_n in_o jeroboam_n apostasy_n and_o if_o so_o say_v he_o than_o the_o ordainer_n and_o ordinance_n ordain_v be_v both_o of_o one_o nature_n yea_o they_o be_v both_o of_o one_o nature_n god_n be_v the_o author_n he_o be_v spiritual_a and_o baptism_n the_o thing_n ordain_v so_o also_o if_o one_o be_v say_v he_o antichristian_a the_o other_o be_v also_o antichristian_a strong_n line_n without_o proof_n what_o if_o neither_o be_v antichristian_a neither_o the_o author_n nor_o
ordinace_n where_o be_v j._n s._n then_o for_o true_o his_o collective_a reason_n be_v as_o much_o as_o if_o a_o person_n oppose_v circumcision_n as_o none_o of_o god_n ordinance_n because_o of_o the_o idolatry_n of_o the_o jew_n shall_v have_v reason_v thus_o if_o the_o israelite_n be_v idolater_n and_o the_o calf_n idol_n and_o no_o god_n and_o the_o priest_n priest_n to_o they_o that_o be_v no_o god_n then_o be_v circumcision_n 9_o 2_o chro._n 13._o 9_o of_o the_o same_o nature_n also_o as_o be_v the_o calf_n &_o priest_n and_o jeroboam'_v whole_a way_n of_o dan_n and_o bethel_n and_o for_o proof_n shall_v say_v as_o j._n s._n do_v that_o it_o be_v the_o power_n of_o jeroboam_n way_n or_o of_o his_o calf_n that_o carry_v on_o the_o whole_a form_n of_o worship_n and_o proceed_v and_o the_o power_n and_o ordainer_n and_o the_o ordinance_n ordain_v must_v needs_o be_v of_o one_o stamp_n if_o one_o so_o then_o so_o the_o other_o have_v not_o such_o a_o way_n of_o argue_v overthrow_v circumcision_n then_o aswell_o as_o baptism_n now_o let_v j._n s._n be_v judge_n himself_o and_o let_v he_o tell_v i_o whether_o he_o will_v not_o have_v distinguish_v in_o the_o case_n again_o i_o will_v propose_v another_o instance_n in_o the_o way_n of_o his_o argument_n thus_o the_o author_n and_o thing_n ordain_v or_o make_v must_v be_v of_o one_o and_o the_o same_o nature_n if_o one_o be_v antichristian_a the_o other_o also_o for_o so_o he_o have_v prove_v be_v say_v but_o the_o author_n namely_o those_o that_o translate_v the_o scripture_n be_v according_a to_o his_o opinion_n antichristian_o and_o there_o be_v addition_n and_o detraction_n as_o in_o some_o translation_n there_o be_v now_o the_o thing_n make_v or_o translate_v must_v be_v of_o the_o same_o nature_n with_o the_o translator_n that_o be_v the_o author_n and_o if_o it_o be_v add_v for_o proof_n it_o be_v the_o power_n of_o their_o antichristian_a spirit_n that_o carry_v on_o the_o whole_a work_n and_o proceed_v thereof_o and_o so_o conclude_v as_o before_o both_o be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o if_o j._n s._n now_o will_v in_o this_o stand_n to_o his_o own_o ground_n where_o will_v he_o be_v he_o will_v be_v as_o far_o to_o seek_v for_o new_a scripture_n as_o they_o be_v for_o church_n and_o ordinance_n that_o hold_v there_o neither_o be_v nor_o yet_o can_v be_v any_o in_o the_o world_n or_o as_o he_o himself_o be_v not_o long_o since_o for_o baptism_n but_o true_o it_o be_v much_o to_o be_v pity_v to_o see_v such_o ignorance_n in_o man_n profess_v knowledge_n that_o they_o can_v distinguish_v betwixt_o god_n 4._o ezek._n 4._o 4._o post_n and_o man_n when_o man_n be_v set_v by_o go_n that_o they_o can_v distinguish_v between_o god_n ordinance_n and_o man_n invention_n and_o addition_n that_o they_o can_v put_v difference_n betwixt_o the_o ark_n and_o dagon_n or_o his_o temple_n in_o which_o he_o be_v place_v fall_v before_o the_o ark_n i_o will_v 4._o 1._o sam._n 5._o 4._o fain_o know_v of_o j._n s._n when_o baptism_n that_o be_v christ_n seize_v and_o lose_v its_o be_v and_o antichrist_n baptism_n come_v in_o the_o room_n of_o it_o sure_o he_o can_v tell_v but_o i_o must_v here_o tell_v j._n s._n that_o the_o power_n of_o jesus_n christ_n support_v and_o carry_v his_o ordinance_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o the_o deep_a defection_n that_o satan_n ever_o have_v or_o can_v bring_v upon_o the_o same_o wherein_o his_o glorious_a power_n do_v appear_v although_o j._n s._n will_v spoil_v he_o of_o it_o by_o feign_v that_o he_o be_v overcome_v &_o his_o church_n &_o ordinance_n destroy_v god_n people_n of_o old_a remain_v his_o people_n his_o church_n his_o church_n his_o ordinance_n his_o ordinance_n as_o particular_o circumcision_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o the_o great_a defilement_n that_o ever_o attend_v that_o dispensation_n in_o like_a manner_n it_o be_v so_o now_o under_o all_o the_o defilement_n of_o antichrist_n in_o particular_a baptism_n of_o which_o be_v our_o question_n as_o also_o the_o church_n our_o lord_n christ_n his_o power_n be_v no_o way_n lessen_v for_o the_o uphold_v of_o it_o nor_o his_o faithfulness_n fail_v for_o the_o preservation_n thereof_o according_a to_o his_o promise_n who_o have_v say_v the_o gate_n 16._o mat._n 16._o of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o it_o it_o be_v good_a for_o j._n s._n to_o study_v well_o that_o place_n 2_o thes_n 2._o 4._o where_o antichrist_n be_v foretell_v sit_v in_o the_o temple_n or_o church_n of_o god_n and_o if_o he_o will_v please_v but_o to_o take_v notice_n that_o there_o be_v difference_n between_o god_n temple_n in_o which_o he_o sit_v and_o he_o sit_v there_o as_o there_o be_v betwixt_o the_o ark_n in_o the_o temple_n of_o dagon_n in_o which_o the_o ark_n be_v he_o happy_o will_v change_v his_o thought_n and_o be_v of_o another_o mind_n and_o so_o come_v to_o have_v more_o respective_a thought_n of_o the_o power_n and_o faithfulness_n of_o jesus_n christ_n then_o now_o he_o seem_v to_o have_v true_o i_o suppose_v these_o foolish_a inference_n of_o j._n s._n will_v appear_v to_o be_v but_o mere_a fantasy_n without_o any_o ground_n tend_v only_o to_o deceive_v the_o simple_a for_o any_o indifferent_a reader_n will_v be_v able_a to_o distinguish_v betwixt_o religion_n and_o corruption_n betwixt_o ordinance_n and_o the_o evil_n by_o way_n of_o addition_n or_o detraction_n that_o attend_v they_o circumcision_n be_v of_o god_n and_o it_o be_v the_o hand_n and_o power_n of_o god_n that_o carry_v it_o forth_o in_o those_o evil_a time_n the_o idol_n calf_n and_o jeroboam'_v priest_n and_o his_o whole_a way_n as_o they_o be_v of_o and_o from_o another_o so_o another_o hand_n and_o power_n carry_v they_o along_o even_o as_o in_o like_a manner_n baptism_n and_o other_o like_o thing_n be_v of_o god_n be_v preserve_v and_o carry_v by_o a_o hand_n and_o power_n of_o god_n whereas_o that_o universal_a church_n general_a ministry_n and_o government_n with_o those_o other_o form_n of_o church_n provincial_n diocesan_n and_o proportional_a ministry_n and_o government_n ceremony_n with_o addition_n and_o detraction_n innumerable_a as_o they_o be_v from_o another_o fountain_n so_o they_o be_v carry_v in_o another_o channel_n and_o by_o another_o power_n abet_v and_o set_v on_o namely_o by_o the_o power_n of_o the_o man_n of_o sin_n the_o author_n and_o inventor_n of_o they_o so_o far_o shall_v suffice_v in_o this_o but_o say_v j._n s._n praise_v of_o himself_o he_o have_v prove_v that_o if_o one_o be_v antichristian_a the_o other_o be_v antichristian_a by_o what_o scripture_n he_o have_v prove_v it_o none_o can_v tell_v and_o say_v he_o to_o dream_v of_o any_o approve_a church_n by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n under_o the_o defection_n and_o yet_o a_o part_n of_o the_o same_o be_v for_o a_o man_n to_o look_v for_o a_o man_n in_o the_o moon_n and_o to_o suppose_v a_o church_n to_o consist_v in_o such_o matter_n as_o be_v destructive_a to_o itself_o and_o therein_o to_o hold_v a_o successisn_a of_o truth_n be_v against_o the_o light_n of_o nature_n and_o a_o keep_n of_o the_o pope_n upon_o the_o throne_n of_o christ_n whether_o he_o will_v or_o no._n answ_n be_v not_o this_o high_a divinity_n which_o i._o s._n belch_v out_o of_o his_o self-sick_a stomach_n against_o the_o people_n and_o truth_n of_o god_n be_v it_o not_o a_o sore_n and_o heavy_a charge_n but_o it_o be_v well_o it_o be_v but_o say_v and_o not_o prove_v now_o lest_o any_o as_o simple_a as_o he_o that_o say_v it_o shall_v believe_v it_o because_o it_o be_v say_v and_o that_o by_o a_o person_n venerable_a in_o their_o way_n i_o shall_v take_v the_o pain_n to_o examine_v the_o respective_a charge_n as_o they_o be_v lay_v down_o first_o say_v he_o to_o dream_v of_o a_o approve_a church_n by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n a._n sure_a he_o dream_v himself_o in_o what_o he_o father_v thus_o upon_o his_o opposite_n who_o do_v not_o hold_v a_o approve_a church_n in_o such_o a_o sense_n as_o j._n s._n seem_v to_o intend_v that_o be_v a_o pure_a and_o spotless_a church_n but_o they_o hold_v according_a to_o the_o scripture_n a_o church_n to_o be_v real_o true_a and_o god_n though_o corrupt_a and_o great_o defile_v i_o suppose_v he_o will_v not_o question_v but_o that_o judah_n not_o to_o speak_v of_o israel_n be_v the_o church_n of_o god_n in_o manasses_n time_n and_o in_o other_o time_n when_o idolatry_n great_o prevail_v yet_o not_o approve_v as_o pure_a and_o spotless_a but_o reprove_v for_o corruption_n and_o defilement_n yea_o and_o visit_v with_o the_o rod_n of_o man_n 2._o psal_n 89._o 3_o 2._o because_o of_o the_o same_o that_o she_o may_v be_v reform_v so_o as_o to_o be_v again_o approve_v of_o her_o