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be_v suspend_v add_v these_o word_n if_o you_o shall_v demand_v of_o i_o a_o subflantiall_a proof_n for_o yield_v thus_o much_o i_o must_v answer_v you_o the_o church_n be_v of_o age_n ask_v it_o what_o she_o in_o prudence_n have_v allow_v i_o be_o ready_a to_o think_v there_o may_v be_v good_a reason_n for_o though_o i_o know_v it_o not_o ans_fw-fr if_o mr._n humphrey_n be_v real_a in_o this_o his_o profession_n he_o can_v be_v a_o enemy_n to_o suspension_n which_o beside_o the_o warrant_n of_o scripture_n have_v the_o church_n for_o its_o patron_n whether_o by_o church_n he_o understand_v the_o greek_a and_o latin_a church_n before_o their_o apostasy_n or_o general_a and_o particular_a council_n especial_o the_o council_n of_o ancyra_n an._n 308._o or_o thereabouts_o and_o the_o general_a council_n of_o nice_a gather_v by_o constantine_n the_o great_a by_o who_o canon_n suspension_n from_o the_o sacrament_n be_v ratify_v or_o if_o by_o church_n he_o understand_v our_o own_o church_n of_o england_n let_v he_o consult_v the_o book_n of_o common-prayer_n and_o particular_o the_o confirmation_n where_o minister_n be_v order_v to_o catechise_v in_o public_a and_o governor_n of_o family_n be_v to_o send_v their_o child_n and_o servant_n to_o be_v catechise_v and_o the_o general_a rule_n in_o the_o close_a be_v that_o none_o shall_v be_v admit_v to_o the_o holy_a communion_n until_o such_o time_n as_o he_o can_v say_v the_o catechism_n here_o you_o have_v a_o evidence_n of_o suspension_n for_o gross_a ignorance_n and_o for_o scandalous_a person_n turn_v to_o the_o communion_n in_o the_o book_n of_o common-prayer_n 1._o they_o be_v dehort_v from_o receive_v in_o these_o word_n therefore_o if_o any_o of_o you_o be_v a_o blasphemer_n etc._n etc._n or_o be_v in_o malice_n envy_n or_o in_o any_o other_o grievous_a crime_n bewail_v your_o sin_n and_o come_v not_o to_o this_o holy_a table_n lest_o after_o the_o receive_n of_o that_o sacrament_n the_o devil_n enter_v into_o you_o as_o he_o enter_v into_o judas_n and_o fill_v you_o full_o of_o all_o iniquity_n and_o bring_v you_o to_o destruction_n of_o body_n and_o soul_n and_o in_o the_o rubric_n before_o the_o communion_n person_n before_o receive_v be_v to_o give_v the_o minister_n notice_n of_o their_o purpose_n therein_o and_o if_o any_o of_o they_o be_v a_o notorious_a evil_a liver_n or_o wrong_v his_o neighbour_n by_o word_n or_o deed_n or_o be_v in_o malice_n and_o hatred_n he_o be_v first_o to_o dissuade_v they_o from_o the_o sacrament_n and_o if_o that_o will_v not_o prevail_v he_o be_v to_o deny_v they_o the_o sacrament_n not_o suffer_v they_o to_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o lord_n table_n until_o he_o know_v they_o to_o be_v reconcile_v etc._n etc._n i_o may_v here_o add_v the_o twenty_o six_o canon_n which_o express_o say_v no_o minister_n shall_v
conversion_n of_o assent_n which_o alone_o reach_v so_o far_o as_o to_o engage_v one_o to_o the_o covenant_n be_v necessary_o prerequisite_a to_o adult_v church-member_n and_o both_o the_o sacrament_n not_o so_o the_o conversion_n of_o consent_n which_o he_o open_v well_o and_o page_n 210._o conclude_v that_o in_o order_n hereunto_o god_n use_v this_o sacrament_n especial_o where_o be_v a_o more_o vigorous_a confluence_n of_o all_o the_o ordinance_n answ_n 1._o by_o concession_n of_o both_o proposition_n in_o relation_n to_o admission_n which_o be_v mr._n h._n his_o own_o term_n though_o i_o do_v not_o believe_v that_o receive_v mention_v act._n 2._o 41._o fell_a short_a of_o save_v grace_n in_o most_o of_o they_o the_o minister_n must_v sometime_o admit_v he_o who_o at_o the_o same_o time_n ought_v not_o to_o receive_v 2._o if_o the_o forementioned_a conversion_n of_o assent_n be_v necessary_o pre-requisite_a to_o adult_v church-member_n and_o both_o sacrament_n which_o be_v the_o very_a truth_n and_o acknowledge_v here_o by_o mr._n h._n than_o those_o church-member_n who_o can_v give_v such_o a_o assent_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o sacrament_n i_o may_v add_v by_o mr._n h._n his_o present_a doctrine_n they_o ought_v to_o be_v excommunicate_v though_o we_o rise_v not_o especial_o at_o first_o to_o that_o severity_n but_o this_o be_v the_o condition_n of_o many_o gross_o ignorant_a adult_n church-member_n who_o if_o you_o ask_v whether_o christ_n be_v a_o woman_n they_o be_v as_o like_a to_o give_v their_o assent_n as_o if_o you_o ask_v they_o whether_o christ_n be_v god-man_n and_o so_o of_o other_o fundamental_a truth_n 3._o we_o grant_v the_o sacrament_n as_o have_v a_o more_o vigorous_a confluence_n of_o all_o ordinance_n may_v be_v singular_o useful_a in_o order_n to_o conversion_n of_o consent_n as_o he_o express_v it_o and_o therefore_o judge_v none_o shall_v be_v hinder_v from_o presence_n at_o it_o any_o more_o than_o from_o presence_n at_o baptism_n where_o by_o presence_n they_o may_v be_v convert_v though_o they_o partake_v not_o with_o the_o child_n or_o catechumenus_fw-la of_o baptismal_a water_n and_o the_o rather_o because_o the_o lord_n supper_n as_o well_o as_o baptism_n prayer_n or_o preach_v be_v a_o public_a ordinance_n and_o therefore_o may_v be_v honour_v with_o universal_a presence_n though_o not_o abuse_v by_o universal_a partake_n whereas_o p._n 310._o mr._n h._n plead_v humane_a testimony_n answ_n with_o due_a respect_n to_o the_o author_n man_n testimony_n be_v either_o 1._o ambiguous_a in_o this_o point_n or_o 2._o may_v be_v balance_v by_o opposite_a testimony_n of_o man_n or_o 3._o at_o best_a be_v not_o authentic_a man_n testimony_n may_v suadere_fw-la but_o only_o god_n testimony_n can_n persuadere_fw-la as_o for_o his_o distinction_n about_o real_a and_o relative_a grace_n here_o repeat_v the_o latter_a branch_n thereof_o have_v be_v former_o answer_v which_o therefore_o i_o pass_v page_n 211._o he_o think_v its_o unsound_a to_o hold_v the_o sacrament_n convey_v real_a grace_n moral_o by_o way_n of_o obsiguation_n why_o i_o pray_v because_o moral_a instrument_n can_v exhibit_v any_o thing_n real_a answ_n 1._o if_o this_o be_v true_a then_o how_o can_v the_o sacrament_n convey_v grace_n by_o way_n of_o signification_n since_o the_o sacrament_n himself_n confess_v be_v only_o a_o moral_a instrument_n and_o if_o it_o convey_v grace_n neither_o by_o way_n of_o signification_n nor_o of_o obsignation_n nor_o of_o exhibition_n it_o convey_v grace_v no_o way_n thus_o by_o mr._n h._n his_o principle_n the_o sacrament_n convey_v no_o grace_n at_o all_o and_o if_o so_o than_o it_o neither_o convert_n or_o edify_v which_o how_o absurd_a yea_o pari_fw-la ratione_fw-la how_o do_v the_o word_n convert_v since_o it_o also_o be_v but_o a_o moral_a instrument_n 2._o grace_n be_v not_o strengthen_v but_o by_o superadd_v degree_n i_o mean_v ordinary_o but_o grace_n be_v strengthen_v by_o the_o seal_n as_o well_o as_o by_o the_o signify_v virtue_n of_o the_o sacrament_n therefore_o degree_n of_o grace_n be_v moral_o convey_v by_o the_o seal_a power_n of_o the_o sacrament_n the_o major_n be_v firm_a till_o mr._n h._n can_v show_v some_o other_o way_n of_o strengthen_v grace_n immediate_o for_o of_o that_o strength_n i_o now_o speak_v beside_o superadded_a degree_n the_o minor_a be_v prove_v by_o instance_n the_o sacrament_n be_v a_o seal_n assure_v the_o covenant_n to_o faith_n by_o this_o assurance_n faith_n be_v confirm_v as_o be_v abraham_n by_o the_o seal_n of_o circumcision_n rom._n 4._o 11._o faith_n be_v not_o confirm_v but_o by_o intention_n a_o habit_n be_v not_o intend_v but_o by_o degree_n superad_v the_o conclusion_n than_o will_v follow_v that_o degree_n of_o grace_n be_v convey_v by_o the_o seal_a power_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o because_o the_o sacrament_n work_v only_o moral_o therefore_o they_o be_v convey_v by_o it_o moral_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o the_o sacrament_n may_v beget_v grace_n but_o the_o question_n in_o dispute_n be_v whether_o every_o sacramental_a action_n do_v so_o and_o particular_o the_o act_n of_o receive_v for_o till_o mr._n h._n prove_v this_o he_o be_v still_o at_o a_o loss_n and_o while_o he_o will_v charge_v i_o p._n 212._o as_o be_v injurious_a to_o poor_a christian_n disvalue_v this_o mean_n of_o grace_n bring_v in_o question_n how_o it_o can_v beget_v any_o degree_n of_o grace_n at_o all_o a_o charge_n to_o which_o i_o trust_v i_o can_v ground_o plead_v not_o guilty_a himself_n be_v find_v guilty_a of_o his_o own_o charge_n by_o deny_v the_o sacrament_n convey_v real_a grace_n moral_o as_o i_o have_v show_v in_o the_o forego_n paragraph_n mr._n h._n p._n 212._o i_o agree_v with_o he_o as_o for_o infant_n but_o for_o the_o intelligent_a john_n baptism_n may_v convince_v he_o who_o we_o find_v admit_v all_o to_o it_o and_o then_o exhort_v they_o to_o amendment_n as_o the_o use_n or_o end_n of_o it_o etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o if_o baptism_n be_v a_o convert_v ordinance_n i_o see_v no_o reason_n why_o mr._n h._n shall_v suspend_v infant_n any_o more_o from_o its_o efficacy_n than_o from_o its_o use_n and_o to_o what_o purpose_n be_v infant_n baptize_v if_o they_o be_v in_o statu_fw-la quo_fw-la capable_a of_o no_o good_a by_o it_o especial_o those_o of_o they_o who_o die_v within_o few_o hour_n or_o day_n after_o baptism_n they_o be_v relative_o holy_a and_o so_o member_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o right_n of_o their_o parent_n before_o baptism_n 1_o cor._n 7._o 14._o as_o in_o hereditary_a kingdom_n the_o heir_n upon_o the_o death_n of_o his_o father_n be_v king_n before_o his_o coronation_n his_o argument_n draw_v from_o their_o non-intelligence_n seem_v as_o strong_a against_o their_o edification_n or_o confirmation_n by_o baptism_n as_o against_o their_o conversion_n and_o regeneration_n by_o it_o since_o the_o baptize_v infant_n can_v understand_v no_o more_o in_o order_n to_o his_o edification_n than_o in_o order_n to_o his_o regeneration_n by_o his_o baptism_n therefore_o with_o submission_n i_o rather_o apprehend_v that_o baptism_n be_v a_o divine_a ordinance_n do_v undoubted_o attain_v all_o its_o end_n for_o good_a in_o the_o elect_a vessel_n of_o mercy_n be_v they_o infant_n or_o grow_v person_n and_o that_o either_o in_o their_o infancy_n or_o when_o they_o come_v to_o ripe_a year_n upon_o supposition_n that_o it_o be_v a_o convert_v ordinance_n i_o see_v no_o absurdity_n in_o it_o if_o we_o say_v it_o may_v at_o the_o very_a moment_n of_o baptizng_n be_v moral_o instrumental_a to_o convert_v the_o infant-baptized_n not_o by_o way_n of_o signification_n to_o the_o apprehension_n of_o the_o babe_n who_o can_v understand_v nothing_o of_o it_o nor_o be_v it_o necessary_a he_o shall_v understand_v man_n can_v get_v into_o the_o heart_n but_o by_o the_o head_n god_n need_v not_o that_o porch_n or_o threshold_n but_o by_o way_n of_o supernatural_a concourse_n with_o this_o as_o with_o other_o ordinance_n when_o ever_o they_o become_v effectual_a christ_n at_o the_o very_a moment_n when_o the_o minister_n baptise_n the_o babe_n with_o water_n can_v baptize_v it_o with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o power_n grace_n into_o its_o heart_n as_o the_o minister_n power_n water_n upon_o his_o face_n the_o child_n be_v equal_o passive_a both_o in_o the_o sign_n &_o in_o the_o thing_n signify_v and_o understand_v nothing_o of_o either_o if_o a_o infant_n may_v be_v bewitch_v by_o a_o diabolical_a ceremony_n use_v by_o the_o devil_n minister_n and_o that_o witchery_n be_v remove_v by_o a_o spell_n or_o the_o like_a which_o the_o babe_n can_v understand_v and_o if_o he_o can_v the_o understanding_n avail_v not_o to_o its_o efficacy_n why_o may_v not_o the_o same_o babe_n be_v regenerate_v by_o a_o divine_a ceremony_n apply_v to_o it_o by_o god_n minister_n the_o devil_n in_o thing_n of_o
the_o rule_n of_o admission_n as_o that_o person_n to_o receive_v first_o must_v have_v some_o maturity_n of_o understanding_n second_o must_v be_v in_o their_o right_a wit_n three_o must_v not_o be_v jure_v excommunicate_a if_o it_o be_v object_v that_o these_o he_o except_v afterward_o by_o way_n of_o explication_n ans_fw-fr 1._o his_o explication_n must_v never_o contradict_v his_o rule_n second_o by_o the_o same_o reason_n he_o can_v find_v three_o middle_a thing_n we_o shall_v find_v more_o as_o i_o hope_v to_o make_v evident_a when_o we_o come_v to_o particular_n mr._n humphrey_n 21._o pag._n 19_o 20_o &_o 21._o some_o be_v uncapable_a of_o the_o ordinance_n by_o nature_n namely_o such_o as_o can_v discern_v no_o meaning_n thereof_o as_o infant_n the_o distract_a natural_a fool_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o ignorant_a that_o be_v of_o age_n and_o that_o first_o because_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n can_v be_v a_o duty_n in_o the_o former_a etc._n etc._n second_o because_o 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please_v to_o fancy_v of_o they_o mr._n humphrey_n allow_v 23._o pag._n 23._o that_o person_n excommunicate_a ipso_fw-la jure_fw-la shall_v be_v suspend_v namely_o person_n guilty_a of_o notorious_a and_o evident_a crime_n etc._n etc._n yet_o this_o he_o mince_v again_o say_v i_o do_v not_o hold_v the_o minister_n or_o church_n be_v always_o bind_v to_o take_v cognizance_n hereof_o for_o what_o have_v be_v show_v already_o so_o plain_o in_o the_o pattern_n of_o christ_n see_v more_o of_o this_o kind_n page_n 26._o where_o he_o make_v the_o keep_n away_o or_o suspend_v of_o person_n jure_v excommunicate_a but_o a_o prudentiall_a ans_fw-fr 1._o be_v not_o here_o another_o middle_a thing_n to_o be_v a_o rule_n of_o admission_n beside_o church-membership_a person_n jure_v excommunicate_a be_v church-member_n till_o actual_o excommunicate_v and_o therefore_o either_o must_v be_v admit_v or_o mr._n humphrey_n his_o former_a rule_n be_v false_a 2._o note_v further_o and_o tremble_v mr._n humphrey_n hold_v the_o minister_n and_o church_n be_v not_o always_o bind_v to_o take_v cognisance_n of_o a_o zimri_n and_o cosbi_n a_o person_n stark_o stare_v drink_v incestuous_a marriage_n those_o who_o come_v new_o reak_a out_n of_o open_a enormity_n such_o as_o public_o renounce_v christ_n or_o say_v they_o will_v believe_v on_o he_o such_o as_o be_v in_o notorious_a malice_n will_v not_o forgive_v but_o profess_v their_o obstinacy_n but_o may_v admit_v these_o come_n to_o the_o sacrament_n though_o convict_v by_o evidence_n of_o the_o fact_n so_o they_o be_v not_o juridical_o sentence_v and_o de_fw-fr facto_fw-la excommunicate_v let_v the_o reader_n compare_v page_n 21._o and_o 22._o and_o see_v if_o i_o wrong_v he_o if_o this_o latitude_n of_o admission_n turn_v not_o god_n house_n into_o a_o den_n of_o thief_n i_o know_v not_o what_o will_n well_o may_v person_n excommunicable_a as_o he_o call_v they_o be_v admit_v if_o the_o former_a rabble_n of_o hell_n may_v pass_v 3._o 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excommunicate_v judas_n actual_o who_o be_v jure_v excommunicate_a see_v whither_o a_o engagement_n in_o loose_a principle_n will_v not_o drive_v man_n but_o i_o hope_v mr._n humphrey_n upon_o a_o review_n will_v be_v of_o another_o mind_n how_o ever_o prejudice_n and_o preingagement_n may_v cloud_v his_o judgement_n for_o the_o present_a mr._n hum._n 23._o pag._n 23._o and_o here_o i_o must_v complain_v of_o my_o opposer_n be_v not_o these_o word_n unless_o excommunicate_a ipso_fw-la jure_fw-la or_o de_fw-fr facto_fw-la page_v 24._o in_o all_o three_o edition_n and_o why_o then_o do_v he_o so_o overly_o and_o contemptible_o bring_v a_o odium_fw-la on_o i_o by_o be_v willing_a not_o to_o see_v or_o understand_v they_o etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr herein_o i_o be_o sure_a i_o have_v cause_n to_o complain_v of_o my_o opposer_n let_v the_o reader_n peruse_v his_o vindication_n page_n 24._o and_o find_v if_o he_o can_v one_o word_n of_o excommunicate_a jure_fw-la or_o facto_fw-la there_o 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sense_n and_o thence_o we_o deduce_v that_o where_o it_o prove_v excommunication_n there_o it_o necessary_o prove_v suspension_n 4_o lie_n we_o say_v that_o mr._n humphrey_n his_o bulwark_n from_o this_o place_n be_v a_o battery_n against_o himself_o and_o make_v he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o he_o will_v prove_v out_o of_o this_o place_n be_v that_o all_o intelligent_a church-member_n not_o actual_o excommunicate_v aught_o to_o receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n because_o all_o intelligent_a church-member_n do_v receive_v those_o sacrament_n 1_o cor._n 10._o we_o answer_v if_o his_o argument_n be_v good_a from_o this_o place_n then_o pariratione_fw-la all_o unintelligent_a church-member_n yea_o person_n excommunicate_v yea_o very_o heathen_a not_o to_o instance_n in_o bruit_n beast_n ought_v to_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n therefore_o say_v we_o this_o argument_n can_v serve_v his_o turn_n there_o be_v a_o apparent_a hiatus_fw-la in_o it_o mr._n humphrey_n therefore_o pag._n 50._o pervert_v and_o corrupt_v the_o scope_n of_o the_o apostle_n who_o never_o intend_v to_o encourage_v the_o corinth_n to_o receive_v pell-mell_a because_o the_o israelite_n do_v so_o for_o then_o by_o the_o same_o reason_n he_o shall_v also_o have_v give_v encouragement_n ro_o admit_v pell-mell_a all_o person_n of_o age_n live_v in_o the_o same_o parish_n or_o neighbourhood_n to_o baptism_n without_o any_o examination_n or_o confession_n of_o their_o faith_n they_o be_v so_o baptize_v unto_o moses_n 1_o cor._n 10._o 2._o whereas_o the_o apparent_a scope_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v to_o warn_v the_o corinthian_n and_o in_o they_o all_o christian_n not_o to_o presume_v upon_o outward_a privilege_n but_o to_o study_v real_a piety_n else_o they_o shall_v perish_v for_o all_o their_o privilege_n yea_o their_o perish_v will_v be_v sad_a because_o of_o their_o privilege_n as_o be_v evident_a by_o compare_v 1_o cor._n 10._o ver_fw-la 6._o to_o 12._o mr._n humphrey_n 51._o pag._n 51._o 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caro_fw-la et_fw-la sanguis_fw-la dictat_fw-la ab_fw-la hoc_fw-la coetu_fw-la excluditur_fw-la etc._n etc._n i_o pray_v what_o be_v the_o animal-man_n but_o the_o natural_a man_n 1_o cor._n 2._o 14._o i_o hope_v then_o it_o be_v not_o my_o singular_a opinion_n that_o person_n unconvert_v ought_v not_o to_o receive_v what_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o calvin_n beza_n and_o their_o follower_n be_v well_o know_v therefore_o i_o shall_v not_o trouble_v my_o reader_n about_o it_o let_v we_o descend_v to_o the_o lutheran_n church_n of_o who_o consent_n with_o we_o in_o this_o particular_a gerhard_n a_o person_n of_o great_a learning_n and_o industry_n give_v a_o satisfactory_a account_n in_o his_o 5_o tom_n treat_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n cap._n 21._o his_o word_n be_v these_o neque_fw-la verò_fw-la omnes_fw-la christiani_n promiscùe_fw-la admittendi_fw-la ad_fw-la sacram_fw-la coenam_fw-la sed_fw-la juxta_fw-la regulam_fw-la paulinam_fw-la 1_o cor._n 11._o next_o he_o show_v who_o ought_v 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a_o infant_n then_o against_o a_o gross_o ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a person_n cap._n 22._o gerhard_n have_v these_o word_n sedulo_fw-la providere_fw-la debet_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la minister_n ne_fw-la quis_fw-la indignè_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la sine_fw-la verâ_fw-la poenit_fw-la entia_fw-la &_o fide_fw-la hoc_fw-la sacramento_n utatur_fw-la whence_o its_o evident_a he_o judge_v they_o unworthy_a who_o want_v true_a faith_n and_o repentance_n chapter_n see_v sect._n 232_o of_o the_o same_o chapter_n who_o do_v not_o try_v themselves_o that_o be_v who_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v their_o sin_n do_v not_o serious_o grieve_v for_o they_o do_v not_o judge_v themselves_o have_v not_o a_o serious_a purpose_n of_o amendment_n and_o walk_v regular_o that_o be_v not_o reconcile_v to_o their_o neighbour_n in_o the_o same_o chapter_n he_o grant_v that_o 1_o cor._n 10._o 20._o be_v valid_a to_o prove_v that_o they_o who_o have_v fellowship_n with_o devil_n ought_v not_o to_o partake_v of_o the_o 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plecti_fw-la voluit_fw-la incestum_fw-la illum_fw-la where_o he_o also_o cite_v augustine_n as_o refer_v the_o place_n to_o a_o lesser_a degree_n of_o excommunication_n which_o may_v fall_v upon_o he_o who_o be_v a_o brother_n and_o so_o a_o church-member_n and_o upon_o 2_o thess_n 3._o 6._o he_o express_o say_v haec_fw-la excommunicatio_fw-la non_fw-la à _fw-la consortio_fw-la fidelium_fw-la sed_fw-la tantùm_fw-la à _fw-la sacramentis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la removet_fw-la hominem_fw-la and_o upon_o verse_n 15._o of_o this_o chapter_n excommunicatio_fw-la huius_fw-la loci_fw-la non_fw-la separabat_fw-la hominem_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la ut_fw-la membrum_fw-la ejus_fw-la et_fw-la proinde_fw-la fidelium_fw-la frater_fw-la esse_fw-la de_fw-la sineret_fw-la etc._n etc._n by_o which_o its_o evident_a they_o hold_v that_o positive_a suspension_n be_v 1._o a_o degree_n of_o excommunication_n 2_o lie_n that_o it_o do_v not_o unchurch_n a_o man_n 3_o lie_v that_o it_o be_v a_o bar_n to_o the_o sacrament_n our_o suspension_n which_o yet_o mr._n humphrey_n cry_v out_o of_o be_v but_o negative_a and_o so_o not_o a_o church_n censure_n but_o a_o entreaty_n to_o forbear_v till_o fit_v by_o competent_a knowledge_n etc._n etc._n to_o receive_v biell_n upon_o the_o sentence_n lib._n 4._o dislinct_n 9_o quaest_n 1._o effectus_fw-la eucharistiae_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la prima_fw-la gratia_fw-la quâ_fw-la justificatur_fw-la impius_fw-la sed_fw-la illam_fw-la praesupponit_fw-la effectus_fw-la enim_fw-la manducationis_fw-la eucharistiae_fw-la est_fw-la gratiae_fw-la augmentum_fw-la quâ_fw-la anima_fw-la deo_fw-la gratae_fw-la nutritur_fw-la et_fw-la crescit_fw-la in_o gratia_fw-la ut_fw-la ad_fw-la perfectionem_fw-la perveniat_fw-la the_o papist_n then_o acknowledge_v the_o lord_n supper_n be_v no_o convert_v ordinance_n in_o the_o second_o question_n he_o show_v that_o diverse_a by_o come_v to_o receive_v sin_n mortal_o and_o withal_o that_o in_o some_o case_n if_o a_o man_n be_v scrupulous_a and_o fear_v he_o be_v under_o the_o guilt_n of_o mortal_a sin_n he_o must_v lay_v aside_o such_o a_o scrupulous_a conscience_n before_o he_o receive_v but_o must_v not_o receive_v against_o conscience_n he_o show_v also_o out_o of_o other_o schoolman_n in_o what_o case_n a_o minister_n sin_n if_o he_o admit_v such_o to_o receive_v and_o instance_n as_o the_o lutheran_n in_o divers_a sort_n of_o church-member_n that_o be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v and_o conclude_v that_o nulli_fw-la danda_fw-la est_fw-la eucharistia_n qui_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la habere_fw-la devotionem_fw-la nec_fw-la fidem_fw-la actualem_fw-la and_o for_o the_o instance_n of_o judas_n mr._n humphrey_n his_o great_a foundation_n for_o free_a admission_n both_o lutheran_n and_o papist_n though_o of_o his_o mind_n that_o judas_n do_v receive_v yet_o look_v at_o it_o as_o no_o ground_n at_o all_o for_o the_o free_a admission_n of_o all_o intelligent_a church-member_n i_o hope_v mr._n humphrey_n will_v be_v more_o charitable_a then_o to_o say_v that_o council_n father_n the_o reform_a church_n lutheran_n yea_o divers_a papist_n put_v their_o hand_n over_o their_o eye_n and_o sin_v against_o light_n because_o they_o be_v not_o of_o his_o mind_n that_o judas_n