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A62870 Præcursor, or, A forerunner to a large review of the dispute concerning infant-baptism wherein many things both doctrinall and personal are cleared, about which Mr. Richard Baxter, in a book mock-titled Plain Scripture-proof of infants church-membership and baptism hath darkned the truth / by John Tomes. Tombes, John, 1603?-1676. 1652 (1652) Wing T1812; ESTC R27540 101,567 110

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effect_n the_o same_o with_o mr._n ms._n and_o other_o by_o overthrow_v in_o my_o sermon_n the_o hypothesis_n of_o the_o covenant_n seal_n baptism_n succession_n to_o circumcision_n they_o be_v answer_v mr._n drew_n main_a argument_n page_n 23._o though_o his_o book_n by_o the_o author_n of_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o obey_v the_o present_a govenrment_n be_v judge_v to_o be_v write_v with_o sharp_a reason_n and_o mild_a language_n yet_o either_o there_o be_v four_o term_n in_o it_o or_o else_o it_o conclude_v we_o be_v to_o circumcise_v the_o dispute_n of_o mr._n baily_n have_v be_v show_v to_o be_v very_o fallacious_a if_o my_o letter_n to_o the_o press_n have_v find_v one_o willing_a to_o print_v it_o i_o desire_v to_o have_v mr._n bs._n argument_n in_o write_v beside_o these_o because_o he_o be_v better_o know_v to_o those_o of_o bewdley_n i_o compare_v not_o myself_o with_o man_n excellent_a in_o writing_n nor_o do_v i_o think_v i_o use_v the_o term_n silly_a people_n though_o mr._n bs._n notary_n so_o write_v it_o page_z 212._o how_o unseemly_o mr._n bs._n language_n be_v i_o have_v say_v afore_o i_o conceive_v it_o necessary_a mr._n b._n shall_v explain_v his_o term_n to_o satisfy_v the_o people_n who_o can_v not_o judge_v of_o his_o proof_n without_o know_v his_o meaning_n which_o may_v have_v be_v do_v and_o yet_o strict_a dispute_v observe_v which_o mr._n b._n deny_v though_o this_o be_v or_o shall_v have_v be_v the_o end_n of_o the_o dispute_n and_o the_o occasion_n of_o it_o lead_v he_o to_o it_o if_o for_o peace_n and_o for_o fear_v of_o scandal_n be_n equipollent_a as_o i_o take_v they_o to_o be_v in_o these_o speech_n then_o truth_n must_v not_o be_v lose_v for_o fear_n of_o scandal_n and_o no_o truth_n be_v to_o be_v conceal_v so_o as_o to_o be_v lose_v for_o peace_n differ_v not_o as_o much_o as_o truth_n from_o a_o most_o destructive_a falsehood_n as_o mr._n b._n say_v page_n 215._o austin_n i_o think_v have_v the_o word_n i_o cite_v in_o that_o sermon_n my_o book_n of_o scandal_n page_n 273._o and_o in_o my_o apology_n page_n 5._o though_o perhaps_o i_o be_o mistake_v and_o the_o speech_n be_v gregory_n who_o word_n in_o his_o seven_o homily_n on_o ezech._n be_v thus_o cite_v by_o aqu._n 2._o 2._o q._n 43._o art_n 7._o si_fw-mi de_fw-fr veritate_fw-la scandalum_fw-la sumitur_fw-la ut_fw-la tilius_fw-la nasci_fw-la permittur_fw-la scandalnm_fw-la quam_fw-la veritas_fw-la relinquatur_fw-la my_o traduce_v mr._n b._n in_o my_o pulpit_n mention_v page_n 217._o be_v nothing_o but_o cite_v his_o word_n which_o be_v not_o frequent_a nor_o be_v it_o if_o right_o do_v any_o injury_n when_o the_o book_n be_v publish_v what_o be_v of_o i_o and_o not_o of_o god_n
page_n 54._o where_o he_o confess_v ingenuous_o thus_o anabaptistas_n paedobaptismo_fw-la oblainantes_fw-la apertis_fw-la testimoniis_fw-la ferire_fw-la non_fw-la possumus_fw-la vesaniam_fw-la his_fw-la tell_v comprimimus_fw-la 1._o ex_fw-la parallelo_fw-la praecepto_fw-la de_fw-la circumci_fw-la sione_n 2._o ex_fw-la praxi_fw-la apostalica_n quae_fw-la quum_fw-la aliquanda_fw-la fit_a obscurior_fw-la consuetudinem_fw-la totius_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la à_fw-la primaevis_fw-la &_o historicis_fw-la temporibus_fw-la adjicimus_fw-la juae_fw-la licet_fw-la praefractos_fw-la anaboptistas_n non_fw-la movebunt_fw-la apud_fw-la prudentes_fw-la morigeros_fw-la &_o aejuos_fw-la renum_fw-la aestimatores_fw-la valebunt_fw-la so_o that_o according_a to_o he_o the_o main_a weight_n lie_v on_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v false_o imagine_v to_o have_v be_v from_o the_o apostle_n as_o in_o some_o measure_n be_v prove_v in_o my_o examen_fw-la part_n of_o the_o first_o not_o yet_o shake_v 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page_n 242_o will_v vindicate_v his_o passage_n i_o cite_v in_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o people_n of_o bewdley_n but_o he_o pass_v over_o that_o which_o go_v before_o in_o my_o epistle_n and_o make_v no_o answer_n to_o any_o of_o these_o three_o thing_n 1._o that_o he_o assign_v no_o sufficient_a note_n whereby_o to_o discern_v the_o visible_a church-membership_a of_o infanr_n of_o which_o he_o speak_v 2._o that_o there_o be_v no_o connexion_n between_o his_o visible_a church-membership_a of_o infant_n and_o the_o initial_a seal_n without_o institution_n of_o the_o rite_n to_o be_v so_o use_v 3._o that_o in_o the_o positive_a rite_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n there_o be_v no_o reason_n to_o be_v a_o rule_n to_o we_o but_o the_o appointer_n will_v in_o some_o precept_n or_o practice_n and_o to_o show_v the_o precept_n to_o be_v against_o he_o his_o own_o word_n be_v allege_v and_o that_o right_o however_o he_o interpret_v or_o interlace_v they_o his_o interpretation_n agree_v not_o 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