Selected quad for the lemma: reason_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
reason_n	baptism_n	baptize_v	infant_n	2,779	5	9.3007	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A47617	An answer to the Bishop of Condom's book entituled, An exposition of the doctrin of the Caholick Church, upon matters of coutroversie [sic]. Written originally in French.	La Bastide, Marc-Antoine de, ca. 1624-1704, attributed name.	1676 (1676)	Wing L100; ESTC R221701	162,768	460

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the_o eucharist_n communicate_v the_o same_o jesus_n christ_n unto_o we_o by_o form_n of_o nourishment_n that_o vivify_v we_o unto_o that_o of_o the_o sun_n communicate_v also_o the_o same_o object_n at_o full_a noonday_n especial_o if_o the_o eucharist_n be_v consider_v as_o be_v add_v unto_o the_o word_n and_o unto_o baptism_n as_o the_o catechism_n do_v consider_v it_o these_o three_o manner_n of_o communicate_v jesus_n christ_n be_v different_a betwixt_o themselves_o because_o that_o these_o three_o exterior_a mean_n have_v each_o their_o proper_a way_n of_o work_v upon_o we_o to_o produce_v or_o to_o strengthen_v faith_n in_o our_o heart_n and_o to_o confirm_v our_o communion_n with_o jesus_n christ_n by_o the_o operation_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n but_o it_o be_v always_o jesus_n christ_n whole_a and_o entire_a which_o be_v communicate_v unto_o we_o by_o each_o of_o these_o three_o mean_n and_o it_o be_v always_o by_o faith_n and_o by_o the_o operation_n of_o the_o holy_a 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