Selected quad for the lemma: reason_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
reason_n authority_n church_n infallible_a 2,260 5 9.5871 5 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A42451 Five captious questions propounded by a factor for the papacy answered by a divine of the Church of God in England by parallel questions and positive resolutions : to which is added an occasional letter of the Lord Viscount Falkland to the same gentleman, much to this present purpose. Gataker, Charles, 1614 or 15-1680.; Falkland, Lucius Cary, Viscount, 1610?-1643. 1673 (1673) Wing G306; ESTC R24961 63,053 90

There are 7 snippets containing the selected quad. | View lemmatised text

this Catholick Church ordinarily there is no Salvation 3. That is the Holy Catholick Church which professeth that One Holy Catholick Faith once for all delivered unto the Saints whereof the Holy Scriptures are the Conservative and Rule 4. That Holy Catholick Church teaches no error destructive of Salvation 5. Therefore cannot so long as it continues so abuse the world by imposing false or forged Scriptures upon it Quere further What reason now from hence can be deduced why any rational person should desert the Church of England that adheres to the acknowledged Rule of Faith the Scriptures and enter into the present Church of Rome which at the threshold requires him to renounce his Senses Reason and Charity and obliges him to the belief of a Creed composed a few years ago at Trent which we desire the Papists to prove was the Catholick Faith of the truly antient and Catholick Church Third Section containing the Papists Reply N. 1. A Categorical Answer to the Queries concerning the Jewish Church I Admit the promises of God here mentioned respectively to Jews and Christians A. to 1. Q. To the first I answer affirmatively A. to 2. Q. The Second commits a fallacy of Ignoratio elenchi The Queries about the Christian Church to which these ought to correspond proceed not upon any particular Kingdom no nor upon any particular Church nor on every one or any particular mumber of the Priests or Pastors of the Church but upon the representative Catholick Church in a full and lawful meeting of the chief Pastors to teach the Church diffusive what she is to believe as matter of Faith or to reject as errors in Faith when questions arise about any of them I therefore answer that when any such question arose amongst the Jews they were neither to have their last refuge to the Kings of Israel or Judah nor to the State Magistrates or common people for resolution in what they were to believe but to the lawful High Priest for the time with his High Council or Synod of other chief Priests and Doctors in the Law of Moses And they were to conform their belief to what they defined and taught them so that whatsoever either the Kings or some number of inferior Tribes or some particular Priests taught practised or believed contrary to the Doctrine and definition of this Supreme Spiritual Council was to be held erroneous and those who held forth such erroneous Doctrine pertinaciously or practised publickly contrary to it were to be esteemed in their doctrine Hereticks and in their practise Nonconformists to the True Church or Separatists from it If therefore a Jew in the times mentioned in the Querie should have demanded which was then the True Visible Church wherein Salvation could be acquired the answer must have been That it was the High Priest then being and all these believers who conformed their Faith Practises and Communion to him and his high Council ut supra And all such as stood in opposition against him and division from him were Aliens so long as they continued in that state from the True Church Now if the Querist had proved efficaciously that the High Priest with his fore named Council taught the people either Idolatry the common sin of the Jews or any other breach of Gods Law to be lawful or any error against Gods Revelations to be true or any of his Revelations to be false he had overthrown the whole fabrick of my Queries But seeing this is not yet done by him his Queries are neither an Answer nor any obstruction to mine and therefore they remain in their full vigour against him For notwithstanding all he says in his second Query which is the main force of his instance I have clearly shewed a Jew of those times which was then the True Visible Church out of which Salvation could not be had Now it is impossible to prove any such matter unless he enervate the words of our Saviour Mat. 23.2,3 where he says That whatsoever the Scribes and Pharisees taught who had and did sit in Moses his chair that is succeeded in his Spiritual authority was to be observed and done by all the Jewish people which supposes evidently they could not teach them either error in Faith and Manners as part of Gods word for then he should have commanded to do evil and believe errors so that they were infallible in their teaching till Shiloh came And the reason why they were so infallible says our Saviour was because they sate upon Moses his chair and so governed successively the Church of God faithfully in matter of doctrine as he did in his time Upon the chair of Moses have sate the Scribes and Pharisees All therefore that they shall say unto you Observe and do it And this reason proves not only those that sate then when our Saviour spake these words but that all those who sate before them ever since the time of Moses were infallible in all divine doctrines both of Faith and Manners A. to Q. 3. The third Querie is therefore thus answered That the Jewish Church understood ut supra could not teach any error as matter of Divine Faith or Religion A. to Q. 4. To the fourth Querie I answer That though from the precedent Answers it followes that the Jewish Church by divine direction preserved the Holy Scriptures so entirely that it never rejected any true part of Gods written word nor received into their Canon of Gods written word any Book or Sentence which was not his word yet it followes not thence that every private person should find out every particular point of Religion by particular or express proofs out of that written word alone but that the Authority of the Jewish Church ut supra in matters controverted should interpose it self and determine the controversie Nor do the two Texts quoted in the Querie prove thus much For that Esa 8.20 proves only this that they were neither to have recourse to Soothsayers nor to extraordinary visions but to the Law and Testament when doubts arose Now this is so far from forbidding to have recourse to the present respective Priests and Governors of the Church that the Law and Testament command expresly that recourse is to be had to them in doubtful cases Deut. 17. from the 8 th to the 12 th verse and Malachi 2. from the 4 th to the 8 th In which places the interpretation of the Law is reserved to the Priest and the disobedience to the Priests command declared to be so great a sin that it is to be punished with no less than death And for the Scriptures themselves it was so far from the Ordinance of Moses his Law that every particular or private Believer had license or opportunity or ordinary possibility to peruse them and gather from them by his sole perusal what was and what was not to be believed as private Protestants now do that the Law was only to be read to them once in Seven years Deut. 31.10,11 and
c. will become a false Prophet But suppose you had given a Categorical Answer That it can never obtrude false Scripture c. then you must grant that the Catholick Visible Church is infallible in the delivery of Scripture If so then is there an Infallible Judg upon the earth concerning this point If so I require some satisfactory reason why the Church should be infallible in this and fallible in other points of Faith seeing it is as great absurdity to abuse the world with salse Faith as with false Scriptures Or what authority is there either in Scripture or Antiquity which limits the infallibility of the Church to the sole determination of Scripture Or is it not as pornicious to a Soul to be put in danger of damnation by having a dangerous error taught it by the Church as by having some Books happily less dangerous than that error imposed upon it by the Church To your Conclusion I answer The reason why you are to desert the Protestant English Church is not because it adheres to the Scriptures as a Rule of Faith for the Roman doth that as well as the Protestant but because they will have that the sole Rule in exclusion of Vniversal Tradition and the voice of the Catholick Church Nor is it any reason to refuse to join with the Roman Church because it enjoyns one to renounce his Senses and Reason For it enjoyns this no more than Scripture and the Protestant Church does For was not Lot to deny his Senses when he perceived them to be Angels whom his eyes ears and touch taught him to be living men And how could our Saviour pass through a whole crowd of people and neither be seen beard or felt without a deception of the Senses Now it is far more opposite to humane reason to believe one to be three and three to be one and that in the very self same being without any difference or mutation then to believe bread to be changed into flesh or one body to be in more places a once What you say of breach of Charity is misconceit of our doctrine We censure not the Persons but the Doctrine and that maintained pertinaciously and obstinately Now who does so we cannot absolutely judg and therefore pass no absolute judgment upon particulars And this is so far from breach of Charity that it is only out of Charity that we let Protestants know what danger they are in that they may avoid it whereas otherwise we should be Flatterers and Sycophants in setting them go on securely in the danger we conceive them to be in The Council of Trent composed no new Creed at all but gave a Catalogue of such points to be professed by all those who were to teach in publick Academies before they were admitted to that office As the English Protestants do exact a profession of the 39 Articles of such as she admits to Orders I have nothing to do with the proof of any thing till these Queries be answered by Protestants Fourth Section containing an Examination of the foregoing Reply made by the Romanist which was comprised in a Letter to the Gentleman assaulted Mr. F. M. SIR I Received the Papers which you conveyed unto me by many Ambages on the 12th of April since which time I have been intangled in several businesses that allowed me no leisure to consider the Cavils of the Factors for the Court of Rome who are like the Clients of * Beelzebub the Lord of Flyes 2. Reg. 1,2,3 the Prince of Devils Musca est meus pater clam illum nihil haberi potest Plaut the Idol God of Ekron the Flies not only for their insinuation into secrets but also for their restless importunity who though beaten off from the flesh they would taint and corrupt yet return again But now though enough hath been lately published by eminent persons in our Church to stop the mouths of gainsayers or at least to secure prudent readers from the dangerous practises of those who like Elymas cease not to pervert the streight waies of the Lord Act. 13.10 yet I have taken some spare time to examine what is returned to that Paper which you know Sir I writ in your Dining-room whilst you staid a while for your company to dinner Upon the perusal I find nothing that may render the defence of mine own former writing so difficult to me as it may be tedious to you For you will see that Oracle of Solomon verified Prov. 17.14 The beginner of strife is like one that opens a passage to waters As waters let in at a small breach quickly spread to a deluge so you may observe how contentions about Religion begun by admission of a few questions swell to Volumes that cloy or tire rather then instruct readers except they be such lovers of Truth as to seek it with patience But least my silence might give some occasion to the Adversarie of triumphing over our Church whereas indeed neither the validity of our cause or profession nor the credit of our Church depends on so weak a Basis as the acting of one of the meanest of her Children I shall endeavour to repair this breach and to retrench these bitter waters of Romish contentions against the Truth into their own channels And that you may not be affrighted with the very bulk of my Reply I shall not enlarge my discourse to disprove every particular which these Papers may tempt me to contradict but make short animadversions upon whatever occurs and appears material to our present Queries My first Querie ministers no occasion of dispute The second in which he rightly apprehends the main force of my instance against his Queries to lie is attacked by him confidently with such weapons as I may safely trust you to judge of their validity And indeed you that are assaulted in the possession of the truth of Christian Religion conveyed unto you by the light of Gods Word in the Scripture which is held forth by a Ministerie that doth not pretend to Infallibility but professeth legitimate Authority to instruct all under their charge in the Doctrine of the Gospel must be Judge in the Court of your own conscience whether the Roman Questionist or I speak that which is agreeable to the common Rules of Truth And your Reason assisted with the blessing of God the Father of Lights who freely and liberally gives wisdom sufficient to salvation unto all that with humility meekness and resolution of obedience implore his holy Spirit of understanding must be permitted to be your Guide in discovering the True Church from the False and may as well and safely be allowed to distinguish the wholesome Doctrine from the corrupt and noxious since this may be easier and sooner discerned by the agreeableness of any Doctrine to the sence of Scripture in which all things necessary are plain then the truth of a Church can be discovered by those Notes commonly given by the Papists which are uncertain variable difficult to
Canonical Scripture The Catholick Church being quickly after enlarged and spred through many regions of the earth did together with the Gospel preached receive Copies of the Scriptures which had been communicated by the particular Churches to which they were directed at first unto their neighbour Churches These Scriptures were by all Churches reverenced and preserved as the Grand Charter of their Salvation and the Laws and Records of their Society as the Church was the Kingdome of Christ distinguished from the world The zeal of Christians for their Laws and their knowledg of them which were frequently read in the publick Assemblies according to an * Col. 14.16 Appostolical order to which we must add above all the Providence of Gods watching over the Church for the preservation of Scriptures being more pretious to God than to Man and as pretious to God as the world it self these being well considered may assure us that it was morally impossible that the whole Church of God should be cousened into the reception of any forged Scriptures And if the Church in following ages could not combine together to coyn counterfeit Scriptures then the Church universal could never obtrude any thing upon the world for Canonical Scripture which was not received from the Primitive Church at first But how doth it follow from hence that the Church is an Infallible Judg in this point A creditable witness is not presently an Infallible Judg. A faithful Depositary that keeps Records is not the same thing with an unerring Judg. The Tradition of the Church Universal which hath derived the Holy Scriptures from age to age is not an Act of Judicature The Nation of the Jews is at this day a credible witness of the divine Original and authority of the Old Testament at least at the first plantation of the Church Christian the Jevvish Church did preserve and deliver the Holy Scriptures in tire so much at least as God thought necessary or expedient and if any book vvere lost that by being lost became unnecessary and vvas secured by Gods Providence in the conveyance of his Oracles to Christians Doth it hence follovv that the People of the Jews was a visible Infallible Judg in that point and if so then in all matters of Faith For thus the Papist proceeds If so I require some satisfactory reason says the Querist why the Church should be infallible in this and fallible in other points of Faith c. I have already shewed that the Case is not so as this man imagines therefore I am not bound to give him the satisfaction which he requires Yet for your further information I add this 1. The reception and tradition of Scriptures by the Church is a fact which God orders as expedient for the preservation of Religion 2. The certain number of the Books written by inspiration is not a point of faith necessary for every Christian to know and believe unto Salvation 3. The Catholick Church cannot err in any point of faith necessary to salvation 4. But any particular Church may believe and teach erroneous Doctrine for matter of Faith The Church of Rome which is not the sole keeper of Scripture may and doth err in several points of their Religion and doth impose upon her children uncanonical Books for Scripture and false Doctrines for matters of faith as is evident by the Canons of the Conventicle of Trent And yet it is not in the power of the Church of Rome to abuse the whole Christian world by the imposition of counterfeit Scriptures upon it I shall yet persist in my reflexion upon the Jews that I may shew that the keeping of Scriptures without forgery falsification and corruption is a thing distinct and separable from erring teaching errors The Jews cannot be denied to have been good keepers of the Books even then when they corrupted the Religion enjoyned by the Law written in those Books Never yet was any man so weak as to conclude that the Priests and Rabbies of the Jews were Infallible Judges of the Doctrine concerning the Messias even those who condemned Christ the Son of God to be guilty of blasphemy and worthy of death because they kept the Books of Moses and the Prophets There is now less reason why we should take the present Church of Rome which we evidently see to teach Doctrines and set up a worship as contrary to the Scriptures as darkness is to light to be an infallible Judge of faith upon this account because the Primitive Roman Church in communion with other Churches did hand down to posterity the holy Scriptures without any falsification since the Church of Rome at this day doth both accept and impose upon her own Children and would but cannot upon others Apocryphal Books for Canonical I have now shewed that these Queries are not unanswerable by Protestants adhering to their own principles or Axioms I desire you to consider the result of the whole design Except you allow him at first that the Roman-Church is in propriety of speech the Catholick Church this disquisition can advance you not an hairs-breadth to a better opinion of the Roman Church for a Guide then you had before For after all the clamour made for resolution of these Queries concerning the Catholick Church the main Question stands as it did Whether the Church of Rome at this day be to be subjected unto as an infallible Guide and to be communicated with all other Churches being abandoned and particularly the Church of England whereof you are now a setled member Till this be resolved you that know the frame of our Church and the module of our Religion may stay safely where you are It remains now that I examine his Answer to my conclusive Querie And I shall briefly note what you may by your own reason or experience discover either absurd or false in it He doth not require you to desert the Reformed Church of England for adhering to the Scriptures as the Rule of Faith For the Roman Church doth that as well as the Protestant as he says If this Querist do not pretend to Infallibility and Authority over you he will out of modesty allow you to examine whether Papists do as well that is as fully and firmly adhere to the Scriptures as English Protestants Certainly they do not well own them for a Rule who accuse them of obscurity and imperfection and make it a point of faith that the defectiveness of Scriptures must be supplied with unwritten Traditions And as certain it is that we who maintain the fulness of Scriptures in delivery of all things necessary to salvation and the perspicuity in that delivery and therefore admit of no point of Religion that is a meer stranger unto the Scripture do more closely stick to that Rule then the Papists But because you are free to examine the adherence of Papists to the Scriptures in particulars by comparison with the English Protestants try whether a mangled Eucharist the real Sacrifice of Christ by a Priest
FIVE CAPTIOUS QUESTIONS Propounded by a Factor for the PAPACY Answered by a DIVINE of the Church of God in ENGLAND By Parallel Questions and Positive Resolutions To which is added An occasional Letter of the Lord Viscount FALKLAND to the same Gentleman much to this present purpose Job 34.3,4 The ear trieth words as the palate tasteth meat Let us choose to us judgment Let us know among our selves what is good Luke 12.57 Our Blessed Lord Jesus Christ says Yea why do ye not even of your selves judge what is right LONDON Printed by T. R. for Hen. Brome at the Gun at the West end of St. Pauls 1673. A Premonition TO THE READER THe Title Page of a Book doth commonly hold forth a Bill of Fare as I may so speak whereby Passengers who are either hungry after sound knowledge or delight to feed on the thin and airy Diet of Wit or are greedy of Novelty are invited to the Stationers Ordinary But a Preface to the Reader is often necessary to excite and prepare his mind for the kindly reception and good digestion of the Treatise it self Give me leave therefore Courteous Reader to arrest you before you sit down to your enterteinment with giving you an Account concerning the Questions here agitated the Answerers Engagement and the occasion with the design of this Publication First As for the Five Questions they have been of late years thrown about in several Families where Popish Huntsmen or Fowlers take the boldness to set their toyls or snares to catch souls insomuch as they make near as much noise and yield as much matter of discourse in England as the Five Propositions in Jansenius did lately in France We may by this see the truth of * Eph. 4.14 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 St. Paul's observation that false Teachers are cunning Cheaters like to common Gamesters who are skilfull in all the tricks of Dice true and false and have 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a methodical course of imposture † Apoc. 12.9 Joh. 8.44 Mat. 13.38,39 The old and subtil Serpent who is the Father of lyes and active sower of tares in Gods husbandry is the grand master of this art of deceiving The Papists are the most diligent students and the most unlucky proficients in this School of darkness whose principal study it is to obscure the light and to hinder the power of truth And their method is the same that the adversaries of our Blessed Saviour used who attempted often to insnare him by insidious Questions vainly presuming that their shallow wit could baffle him who unknown to them was the eternal Wisdom of God vailed under a cloud of a mean † Mar. 6.3 Joh. 7.15 illiterate Carpenter But * Mat. 23.8 our only Master the Christ quickly put them to silence and shame either by propounding cross questions or by parables wherein they might with little study read their own malice and folly See Mark 11.27 12.13 And as then they that thus lay in wait to intangle Christ in his discourse were the Emissaries of the High Priest and his Councel who were in appearance the visible Church of God but did set themselves in opposition against Christ and the Gospel and those Antichristian Ministers acted by instructions given forth by those who set them on work Thus the Popish Circumforanei that go up and down like the juggling Exorcists at Ephesus Act. 19.13 do not act meerly by their singular private fancies but as they are taught and prescribed by their superiors and the well-head of their Sophistries is the Court of Rome Septem urbs clara jugis toti quae praesidet orbi Propert. Apoc. 17.9 18. There are indeed in the seven headed or seven-hilled City which is the seat of the Mother of abominations more shops then one where these weapons are forged The Congregation for the propagation of the Tridentine Faith the Schools of the Loyolists the English Seminary without doubt are all deep in Counsel and hard at work now or never for England's unhappy divisions fomented secretly by Papists are Rome's most advantageous opportunities to reduce this lost Nation to become once more enthralled and tributary to the Pope's spiritual usurped Monarchy which indeed is an Antichristian Kingdom of this World Hence comes that consent in the way which Romanists now take to gain Proselytes But we may further observe that by order they alter their course and shift their weapons every forty years or thereabouts since the Reformation which indeed is no light argument of a weak Cause which cannot stand without shifting the ground and the defences of it But still they accommodate their persensions to the different temper and humour of our Countreymen that are variable in several ages taking advantage also from the changes in the state of the Kingdom in which the Church cannot but suffer some alteration in the outward form of Ecclesiastical Administrations I can upon a good occasion offred produce five Popish Propositions cast abroad in A. D. 1623. and also the Answer of a learned and pious Divine then living and still of happy memory Those were of a fashion somewhat different from these Questions but tended to the same purpose For the chief aim of all such writings is to amuse Protestants especially those who are unacquainted with true antiquity and to put them off from applying the Rule of faith delivered in the holy Scriptures to the present Religion of Rome and from attending on that Ministry which is Gods Ordinance for our instruction and under which Gods providence hath seated us and to make men gape after an infallible Guide which Papists say is necessary but for no other reason but because they hope as they endeavour to cosen credulous people to mistake the Papacy for that infallible Guide These men are so blinded with self-interest and pride that they strongly presume that these five Questions as being the two-horned Arguments of the Beast are so subtilly framed that whether we answer Yea or Nay we are catched for certain and shall be forced to deny our own principles and to confess the existence of an infallible Guide somewhere though it be in some undiscovered corner of the earth And they have such a mean opinion of us for shortness of sight and easiness of belief that being once drawn to the acknowledgement of an infallible Guide we cannot choose but take the bare word of a few Italian Factors that the most magnificent Whore of Babylon described by St. John to the life and designed evidently to be the Papal Power of Rome as it appears at this day is the infallible Guide of Gods Institution I shall add but one Advertisement concerning the preposterousness of this procedure This Questionist in the close of his Reply says that till his Questions are answered he hath nothing to do with the proof of any thing It is a remarkable thing that all Papists by the instruction common to all their Schools of deceit dispose
their Disputants to decline proving any thing and to impose that burden of proof upon their adversaries Eph. 2.20 But we that do take our selves to be in the just possession of the faith once delivered unto the Saints and indeed do build our Religion upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets that is upon the writings of both as Abraham in his Dialogue with Dives gives the name of Moses and the Prophets to their holy Books left behind them do reasonably expect that whosoever goes about to draw us off from that Church and way of salvation wherein we are engaged unto another Society under pretence that we can be safe no where else but in that Ark do strongly and clearly prove that our Religion is for the main body of it false treacherous and destructive of salvation and that the Society to which we are invited by Papists is the sole Mistress of saving truth Luk. 16.29,31 They have Moses and the Prophets let them hear these If they hear not Moses and the Prophets neither will they be perswaded if one arise from the dead Where note that the holy Scriptures bear in them the same Authority that was in the living persons of Moses and the Prophets and also have the same efficacious vertue to beget faith as their words had being orally pronounced and where these lively Oracles are freely confuted and faithfully applyed though by men that are short of Infallibility but faithfull dispensers of holy mysteries an infallible Guide is superfluous Also mark that where the Authority of Scriptures is despised Miracles and there is the same reason to say so of Infallibility are useless because uneffectual to work faith For all that are acquainted with the course either of Judicial proceedings or of Scholastical disputations know well that this Rule holds Actori and Asserenti incumbit probatio The proof lies upon the Accuser or the Averrer of any thing But this puzling way without proving of any thing savours so strongly of deceit and is so far from a fair way of reasoning that it can catch none but them that are unsetled in their Religion and Novices in both divine and humane learning And because there are too many such in the world whose precious souls are in danger at this time the discovery of Popish illusions is now become a necessary work of the prudent and faithfull Guides of souls who by Gods grace have an actual certainty of their Religion and can justly say in the words of St. John We know that we are of the truth and We know that God hath given us a mind or understanding to know the true God and we are in him that is true 1 Joh. 3.19 and 5.20 although they have not the vanity to challenge to themselves an Infallibility So much for the five Questions in general which whether the Divine hath answered or no it is now free for the indifferent Reader to judge As for this Answerers Engagement in the Controversie it was very casual A Romanist that is very zealous to promote the Pope's Interest in this Kingdom had endeavoured to gain credit with the Eve by a surprisal and if the old stratagem had prospered by her insinuation to draw in the Adam presuming that the Rhetorick of love would be more prevalent then his Logick upon a considerate Gentleman To this end a Copy of the five Questions was commended to the persons with a presumption that no Minister of our Church could give a fit and full Answer to these confounding Queries And then it was to be hoped that the parties assaulted would presently despise and then desert a Church that was unfurnished of a Ministry able to answer such doughty Questions as the refined Wits of Papists devise It was also to be supposed that whosoever breaks off from our Church would without any further ado at the next step run into that which is next him the Church of Rome whose † Mat. 7.13 Noctes atque dies patet atri janua Ditis wide gate stands open day and night and is ready to receive all that would find a broad way to Heaven such as is the Roman passage by a Priests Absolution without a holy life or sincere contrition for a debauched But it fell out about this time that * This Rustick Divine says of himself 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 He speaks plainly he calls things by their right names a Countrey Minister of the Gentlemans ancient acquaintance being in the City and invited to dine at his Lodging came to see his Friend a little sooner then some other Guests then expected The Gentleman thought fit to make these Questions a part of the Ministers entertainment The Minister took the short time of that expectation to read the Riddle and after a small ruminating took Pen and luk and set down the double Answer hereafter following and resigned the Writing to the Gentleman to be disposed of at his pleasure Shortly after the Romish Mountebank renewed his visit to see how the Pill had wrought The Gentleman then took the opportunity to deliver him the Ministers Paper But many moneths past before any return was made at length a Reply was communicated to the Gentleman who conveyed it to the Answerer as soon as he could conveniently being at a distance from him by the interposition of several Counties The Minister took his first time of leisure to give his sence of this Reply by a Letter to his Friend who was the person concerned in the Contest as being the man aimed at for to be made a Roman Convert that is to say in prain terms a child of Hell in a double measure for leaving the clear and living Well of salvation and then seeking it in a broken cistern or in a foul puddle of errors and corruptions Withall it was the Ministers intent that the Letter should be imparted unto the Romanist that he might make some good use of it For the Protestants charity is imployed to turn a sinner from the error of his way as well as to secure a Christian in the path of righteousness And although this transaction was past A. D. 1666. yet be that drove the trade pursued it no further and hath neither as it was on our side heartily desired Non est pudor ad meliora transire Ambros acknowledged his error whereof he might be convinced and confess it with a wholesome shame nor attempted any vindication of his Writing that we know of which silence hath more of prudence then any fresh proffer of more impertinencies could have Rom. 10.10 His silence therefore cannot be taken for consent in a matter of Religion where the confession of our faith is a duty but may be taken for a modest laying down of his weapons Now as for this way of publication of all that hath pass'd on both sides he that observes the bold activity of Romanists at this time may apprehend a sufficient reason of it without being told one
when they turned it into a den of thieves God deserted his own habitation and laid it wast So he that reads the Gospel will quickly perceive this figment of Infallibility not so much usurped by Scribs and Pharisees themselves as pinned upon them by Papists overthrown by our Saviour Christ were they secured from error in expounding the Law and teaching the people the sense thereof Mat. 5.20 c. whose partial righteousness our Saviour condemns as inconsistent with true justice and whose corrupt glosses Christ confutes and opposes his own authority to their comments which adulterated the meaning of Gods law But because it may be said that this was a defect in them for want of light and spiritual obedience was the proper Doctrine of the Gospel so that this is not enough to convince the Scribes and Pharisees of error in Doctrine I answer Rom. 7.14 that St. Paul says the Law is in it self spiritual and it was a gross seducing the people in faith and manners to teach such carnal Doctrines as incouraged and hardned men in sin and kept them from repenting of their vain thoughts and vile lusts which lodged in their hearts But to go a step further Christ that commanded obedience to them which necessarily must be limited by the standing and known Laws of Gods people Mat. 16.11,12 expresly warns his Disciples to beware of the Leaven of their Doctrine If Christ did by the Precept alledged evidently suppose as the Querist says that the Scribes and Pharisees could teach the people no error in faith and manners then why did our Saviour go about to secure his Disciples by such a Caution whereas they had no reason to suspect that which the Scribes and Pharisees offered them for the food of their souls Their very sitting in Mose's Chair was a sufficient assurance that they were as faithful in the House of God as Moses if you will take this mans word Christ meant and said so and were so wise as they could not be mistaken and so honest as they would not give sowr Leaven instead of heavenly Manna Oh brave Patron of the accursed Scribes and Pharisees But Sir I believe you have read the 23 Chapter of St. Matthew throughout wherein our Saviour sets out those blind Guides and abominable Hypocrites Luk. 11.52 who had the Key of knowledg as the Pope pretends to the custodie of St. Peter's Keys in such detestable characters as are inconsistent with Infallibility But some will say their corruption in manners doth not infer their erroneousness in Doctrine and therefore Pope Alexander the 6 th though a Devil incarnate might be infallible in the Chair as a learned Lady of the Romish side whom you knew once told me I answer that it will be hard to perswade a sober Christian that hath reverent apprehensions of Gods holy Spirit Wisd 1.5 that the Spirit of Discipline will abide with such unrighteousness and uncleanness See Joh. 14.17 or that persons immersed in worldly lusts should enjoy the constant presence and influence of that Spirit which leads humble and holy men into all truth But he that can perswade you that they Mat. 15.14 whom Christ calls blind Guides were not only fit but also infallible Directors may with the same confidence and arguments make you believe that the Sun shines in our Horizon at midnight I do not forget that it is not the Pope's Infallibility but a Councils which the Querist pleads for by the example of the Scribes and Pharisees albeit they were perhaps Doctors of the Law but few of them members of the great Council But I touch this briefly because it may be the next Papist that creeps into your familiarity will he for the Pope or perhaps this person who hath in his second Paper resolved the Catholick Church into a Council will in his next Paper melt down a Council into the Pope which is the more likely to be a Guide because a living person to be consulted with if many reasons did not hinder our acceptance of him for an infallible one But that the Scribes and Pharisees were guilty of teaching for Doctrines obligatory of conscience Mat. 15.3 9. the traditions of men and did by their devices annul the Commandements of God and encourage men under pretence of Religious Vows to disobey their parents and by false Doctrines involved souls in the guilt of perjury is evident by our Saviours convicting and condemning them Mat. 23.16,17,18,19,20 Can you now be of the opinion that this ungodly fraternity of Villains could make up an infallible Consistory by possessing the Chair of Moses If you can entertain such a concelt you bless whom Christ hath cursed and put darkness for light and call blind Guides the Seers Esa 5.20 and so draw down the woe upon your self Indeed such Guides are fit for them who wilfully wink against the light and make themselves slaves to the enemies of true Religion who put out the eyes of their captived Proselytes that they may with quiet grind in their Mills I will conclude my Reply to this Paragraph with one Proposal This Querist defers such honour to the Jewish Priesthood that the Priests ought to be simply believed upon their word till Shiloh came because they or at least a Council of them could not erre in faith I will not instance in the Council that condemned our Saviour because although some plead for Caiphas by vertue of his Priesthood to have been inspired by the Holy Ghost which alwayes assisted the Chair yet perhaps this Querist will not extend the continuance of Infallibility thus far And yet he that hath feigned Christ to assign it to the Scribes and Pharisees cannot give a good and solid account how Caiphas and his Confederates came in that critical hour to lose it or why the people without a manifest Declaration of God to abrogate their Authority should not then also be bound to believe their sentence though it were blasphemy and tended to the murder of the Son of God or how Joseph of Arimathea could be absolved according to this mans principles from being an Heretick and Schismatick for not consenting to the counsel and practice of the High Priest with his Assembly for which very thing the Gospel commends him to be a good and a just person Luk. 23.50,51 since at that very time the whole Nation of the Jews were obliged according to this mans assertions by Christs own injunction to rest in the Doctrine and Determination of the Council of Jerusalem as infallible in matters of Religion and consequently to deny Jesus to be the Christ Think of this seriously But there is another instance which I aim at It is well known that in the degenerate estate of the Jews there started up a powerful Sect of the Sadducees Act. 5.17 These though pretending to adhere unto the Law of Moses yet are noted to have been infected with pernicious errors in Religion for they believed
from true Let the next Paper if it can shew the contrary for this offers nothing to that purpose Till then and for ever the Law and Testimony written by Gods special design stand for a Rule of Pastors teaching and peoples obeying Next he brings 2 proofs of his assertion out of Deut. 17.8.12 Mal. 2.4 The Devil could find Scriptures to advance his temptations But Consider the violence offered to Gods word by this racking it As to that of Moses there is indeed there an establishment of a High Court without appeal to whose cognizance are referred all important Controversies about the Law of Moses which being in the whole frame of it divine gives a tincture of Religion to those causes that were for the substance Civil or concerned the outward estate or persons of the people Deut. 17.8 If there arise a matter too hard for thee in judgment between blood blood between plea and plea and between stroke and stroke c. In that Court the Priests and Levites who by their office were bound to study the whole Law of God and fit to expound the political Statutes given by the hand of Moses for the government of that Nation but contrived enacted and endited by God himself did sit with the Elders as Judges Now judg you whether the submission required of all Jews being at difference about civil matters to the sentence of that Court signify any thing to enforce upon Jews an obligation to believe and obey the Priests in all things when common reason assured them that their doctrine practise and injunctions were contrary to the Law of God Submission to the sentence of a Supreme Court which was necessary for peace to put a period to contentions did not oblige the party adjudged to believe the sentence to be just though the aggrieved party had no remedy till the judg of all the world appear to do right That those Judges did often turn judgment into wormwood it is evident by the Prophets and it is well known that that Court setled at Jerusalem having taken to themselves the power of judging Prophets did very often condemn the Lords true Prophets Now what Master of reason can ever fairly deduce from the outward subjection which was necessary both for wrath and Conscience to aSupreme Court of Gods institution though the Judges were not infallible in judicature That those Priests were Infallible teachers of Religion whose word was to be taken and relyed on without refusal or so much as tryal As to that of the Prophet Malachi it is subtilly done of him to touch it lightly but fraudulently done to cite it imperfectly It is enough that I have already shewed the full sense of the Prophet who declares what the Priests were by their office obliged to do and from their Dignity and Duty aggravates the crime of the debauched Priests of that age who abused both their power and also the people And this sharp reproof is far enough from proving them then to be infallible But this Querist surely presumes you to be a Papist already and of that form that is unlicensed to read the Book of God Else he could not be so stupid as to affirm that which any one but indifferently versed in the Scriptures knows to be false Or it may be and that is very likely he himself is very little acquainted with the Bible but borrows both his citations of Scriptures by halves and also his Answers to them that are commonly alledged by us from his deluding Masters Otherwise how were it possible that a diligent reader of Scripture should say mark his words It was far from the Ordinances of Moses that every private believer had license to peruse the Scriptures When nothing is more inculcated by God and Moses then that parents should learn and teach their children the Law bind it about their arms make Phylacteries of it and by all means possible derive unto posterity the Ordinances of God and the History of his Providence which are the subject of the Holy Scriptures If it be said that all this they might do without Book because once in seven years they heard the Law read we must then allow the Jews quicker apprehensions and more comprehensive and tenacious memoties then we have in our generations But see the unpardonable ignorance or impudence of this cross-grained Querist who says the Law was to be read once onely in seven years Deut. 31.10,11 Doth that precept which enjoyns the Law to be read in the Panegyris at the Feast of Tabernacles in the Sabbatical year include a Prohibition of the Jews to read the Bible by themselves and to meditate in the Law day and night as occasion serves which is a blessed imployment Psaal 1.1,2 Would Moses deprive them of this happiness Or was that Statute broken by the Jews every Sabbath day as often as Moses was read in the Synagogues in every City as St. James tells us it was the Custome of old so to do Act. 15.21 Mark then the Sophistry of this illiterate impostor and his companions I say Illiterate because he says that passage of Moses and the story of Esdras Nehem. 8.12,13 was all We that is Papists read in Scripture of the common Peoples knowing the written word Blessed be God that We Protestants may and do read more that assures us that the word of God did dwell plentifully among the Jews and ought to do so with all Christians without Bushels set over the Light as in the Church of Rome Yet we do not affirm that every Idiota or private servant of God could by his private study attain to the full meaning of every hard sentence None of us thinks this necessary or possible Yea we make a question at least whether any High Priest or Council under the Old or New Testament ever fully understood all the things hard to be understood or hard to be interpreted in the Law and Prophets or in the * 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 2. Pet. 1.16 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Heb. 5.11 Evangelical and Apostolical writings It is enough as to my purpose and indeed for the safety of Gods people that the Faith and Duty of every one was written with a su●-beam and lay open to be read and understood by the common people with the help of a good Guide though he were below Infallibility And it was a grievous fault in the despisers of the riches of Gods Grace that God had written for them the great things of his Law Hos 8.12 and they were counted as a strang thing This Querist doth bewray his ignorance by another mistake of some consequence in his design to make the Levites and People dependent on the High Priest for the sense of Scripture He says Esdras the chief Priest interpreted the Law to the Levites and enabled them to expound it to the people Indeed Ezrah was a Priest and a perfect Scribe by whose industry and Gods special assistance the Books of Moses the Psalmes and