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A15093 The way to the true church wherein the principall motiues perswading according to Romanisme and questions touching the nature and authoritie of the church and scriptures, are familiarly disputed, and driuen to their issues, where, this day they sticke betweene the Papists and vs: contriued into an answer to a popish discourse concerning the rule of faith and the marks of the church. And published to admonish such as decline to papistrie of the weake and vncertaine grounds, whereupon they haue ventured their soules. Directed to all that seeke for resolution: and especially to his louing countrimen of Lancashire. By Iohn White minister of Gods word at Eccles. For the finding out of the matter and questions handled, there are three tables: two in the beginning, and one in the end of the booke. White, John, 1570-1615. 1608 (1608) STC 25394; ESTC S101725 487,534 518

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ad_fw-la salutem_fw-la perduxisset_fw-la joan._n paul_n wind._n de_fw-fr efficac_fw-la mortis_fw-la christi_fw-la pag._n 173._o syllog_n god_n will_v whereby_o he_o will_v all_o man_n to_o be_v save_v which_o the_o papist_n call_v his_o antecedent_n will_v bind_v he_o to_o no_o more_o than_o for_o example_n he_o do_v to_o the_o gentile_n but_o his_o will_v the_o gentile_n to_o be_v save_v be_v such_o that_o yet_o he_o provide_v not_o the_o mean_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n to_o instruct_v they_o therefore_o his_o willing_a all_o man_n to_o be_v save_v be_v such_o that_o yet_o it_o bind_v he_o not_o to_o provide_v the_o mean_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n to_o instruct_v they_o there_o may_v be_v such_o a_o will_v where_o these_o thing_n be_v not_o so_o manifest_v and_o consequent_o god_n may_v will_v their_o salvation_n and_o faith_n by_o antecedence_n though_o he_o provide_v not_o that_o they_o have_v these_o mean_n but_o know_v they_o shall_v not_o attain_v salvation_n as_o we_o 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