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B00820	A briefe replie of Thomas Udall, Gent. to a short memorandum, or shew of answere against his booke intituled: A briefe view of the weake grounds of poperie: by B.C. student in diuinitie.	Udall, Thomas.	1609 (1609)	STC 24508.3; ESTC S95630	21,665	59

those Councels preferre the Councell before the Pope And yet Pope Martin the fift in the last Sessiō of the Councell of Constance approueth in his Bul all those decrees which were made by this Councell in matters of faith prayseth and confirmeth them And for the Councell of Basill The Diuines of Paris prayse and defend the authoritie thereof against Leo the tenth and their commendation and defence thereof is extant in print And if Master B. C. sinceritie were such as he pretends he could not be ignorant that Papists haue reiected those Councels which cannot be denied to be both lawfull and generall And if the vntruths you haue obiected against Master Bell and Master Rogers be no better proued you haue blotted much paper to little purpose For what are these exceptions against my booke but a ridiculous biting at the héele when you are wounded at the heart B. C. Sect. 8. THus much shall serue at this time for by Gods assistance I intend heereafter more to lay open the manifold maladies of his treatise and to shew with what weake engines he laboureth to vndermine the impregnable grounds of the Catholike Church God graunt that the happie newes of his conuersion may crosse these my designements whereof I see no cause to dispaire if truly zeale of religion and desire of saluation which so much he would seeme to thirst after hath embouldened him being a lay man to launch into the depth of these mysticall matters Let him not relie too much vnto those from whom he receiueth the substance of that he writeth least together with the losse of his reputation hee incurre also the daunger of eternall damnation and if vpon this small warning he findeth himselfe to haue bene deceiued wisedome would he should more carefully looke how he trusteth where hee hath bene abused and with greater diligence both to examine his owne writers and also to reade ours namely Cardinall Bellarmine where hee shall finde the most of his obiections answered as the Catholique author of that letter which hee hath put downe in his booke truely enformeth him To which that giueth no satisfaction alleaged by M. Vdall for answere to wit that Bellarmines reasons are by the learned of his side sufficiently handled and replied vnto when as the most of the arguments in his booke be answered by Bellarmine and nothing doe I find brought by M. Vdall to infringe his solutions which giueth me iust cause to suspect that hee is with the preconceyted sinceritie of his owne doctors carried away into error and so looketh litle into the Originals which if he did he culd not but find that which he pretendeth to seeke for if he shut not his eyes against the truth as he professeth he will not Which that he may doe I shall not forget to commend him to his mercy who desireth not the death of a sinner but that all should come to the knowledge of his name But if it shall fall out that he will still proceede forward in his former course yet I would wish him in writing to abstaine from all biting and bitter words which sometime he breaketh into that the quarrell of God may not be prosecuted like the quarrels of this world but with that modesty which becommeth the professors of diuinity and religion T. V. YOu see M. B. C. that I haue iustified and freed my selfe from all those vniust imputations wherewith you charged me And therefore since you ingage your selfe by this your promise To lay open the manifold maladies of my former Treatise and to shew with what weake engines as you phrase them I labour to vndermine the impregnable grounds of the Catholique Church I hope you will take warning by this little that hath bene shewed you to deale more sincerely in that which is to come wherein it shall be much for your owne credit and the reputation of the Catholique cause whereof you so much boast to be so impregnable that you answer not by patches and peeces picked heere and there for your most aduantage as your Cōmon custome is but that you set downe my words verbatim with the same equity that I haue shewed in this for if you deale otherwise I shall scarce iudge you worthy of any further answer And in the meane time I dare promise That your designemēts shal no way bee crost with the newes of my conuersion though I protest I will weigh the reasons that shall be deliuered by you hereafter with all indifferencie and good conscience Albeit I thinke it no such boldnesse as you censure it To launch into the depth of these mysticall matters since I hold it the dutie of euery Christian to know the grounds of his Religion to be infallible before he build his faith theron And for the relying vpon any man I neither haue nor wil further then truth shal warrant as nere as God shall mable me to iudge so that if I be deceiued which I see no cause yet to distrust it is error in my iudgment not euil affection in my will And whereas you wish me to read your Authors I may truly say I neuer refused to read any of thē nor conference with any how learned so euer Or how much so euer I might thereby haue disaduantaged my selfe and yet I was still more and more confirmed in the opinion I now hold and wherein I hope to die vnlesse Master B.C. will for the merite of winning soules make knowne some more certainty in the grounds of Poperie then I euer yet read or heard of You tell me That Bellarmine hath answered most of my obiections as the Catholique Author of that letter inserted by me hath truely informed me to which you say my answere giueth no satifaction And which yet is straunge you confesse my aunswere to bee this That Bellarmines reasons are by the learned of our side sufficiently handled and replied too Against which very absurdly in my poore opinion you reiterate the same speech againe and say That the most of the arguments in my booke be answered by Bellarmine and that you find nothing brought by mee to infringe his solutions Insinuating with more skill then sinceritie That you had vrged some particular instances therof whereto I had said nothing But if you had truely layd downe my answere in my letter it would much haue blemished the reputation both of your selfe and that Catholique Author That being so much vrged by me neither of you both could or would bring any such instance And how should I giue a solution to that which neitherof you both euer instanced though I much vrged it in my letter as these words there testifie viz. And whereas you referre me in the conclusion of your letter to Bellarmine de Pont. de Consiliis where you say I shall finde most of my obiections of the errors of Popes and Councels refuted so can I when soeuer you shall instance any such particular refutation which may ease you of some paines if it be so

sufficiently performed referre you to some of the Authors of our side where the same reasons haue beene with no lesse sufficiency handled and replied too assuring my selfe that neither any of you haue or can make any obiection against the doctrine we professe that hath not bene alreadie obiected and likewise by vs aunswered And if any can shew me the contrary I will be beholding to him neither will I shut mine eyes against the truth May you not now blush M. B. C. to affirme that this my answere giues no satisfaction And hauing read this to auouch That you finde nothing brought by M. Vdall to infringe his solutions When neither the Author of that Catholike letter then as I haue said nor your self now durst as it may be presumed instance an answere out of Bellarmine to any one particular obiection of mine And yet if you had done this it had bene but expence and losse both of labour and time For as oft as you produce any aunswere of the writers of your side against vs so oft must I bring the replie of the learned of our side in discharge thereof and so according to the fashion of this age fill the world full of bookes touching these controuersies which haue bene alreadie handled with much more sufficiency then either of vs can for I am very confident that neither you nor I can bring any thing touching this subiect that hath not bene already sayd howsoeuer we may giue it a new glosse thereby to make it seeme to bee our owne And since you wish me if I be willing to proceede whereto I am both ready and willing to absteine from all byting and bitter words that the quarrell of God may not be prosecuted like the quarrels of this world I must likewise wish for my own Apology that you had obserued this your owne rule to me others for then had I not failed in satisfying this so good a desire And for the better effecting thereof hereafter and for the sounder tryall of those impregnable grounds whereof you are so confident I earnestly request and coniure you by the loue of truth that wee may both appeare at the iudiciall seat of a true Syllogisme which we may doe without any safe conduct where the substance of the plea betweene vs shall be whether there be any certaintie in the grounds of Poperie And for that it seemeth by your facilitie in aunswering three bookes at once for so no doubt your Popish followers will conceiue of it That you are so conuersant in controuersies That a man cannot faile to receiue satisfaction at your hands I beseech you that this my request may be performed Logically by Syllogismes Theologically by Scripture proofe So shall we auoide all impertinent discoursing and trifling all gibing and reproching and so charitably without bitternesse or indeuor to disgrace each other finish this combate to Gods glorie and to the satisfaction of many for if your grounds can be iustified all controuersies will quickely bee ended But I haue no great hope to draw you to this course for you know too wel That the grounds of your Religion cannot abide the touchstone of this triall though it would hee great glorie to you but to vndertake that which none of the learned of your side could euer yet be drawen too though I am perswaded your Popish dependants will assure themselues you will not refuse so sure and learned a triall But to conclude with the same charitie to you which you seeme to shew to me I will pray vnto my God that he will enlighten your heart and vnderstanding with the spirit of his wisedome and grace that you may discerne the truth of Christian Religion to the glory of God and your owne Saluation Tho. Vdall FINIS Good Reader let me request thy fauourable censure touching the faults committed by the Printer which escaped by reason of my absence at the time of the printing and partly by the difficulty of the hand in the Coppie all which I pray thee first take notice of as they are set downe here following and then read in their due places as they are heere amended and corrected Faults escaped IN the Preface pag. 3. line last for fellowes read followers p. 5. l. 13. there for Questions r. quotations l. 17. for them r. then l. 18. for them r. thee Pag. 4. l. 16. for I haue yet made you r. you haue yet made p. 6 l. 12. for may be borrowed r. may be he borrowed p. 8. l. 14. for But is it a iust difference r. But it is a nice difference li. 23. for blasphemie maintained is r. Bohemians maintained p. 14. l. 19. for whence r. whom p. 16. l. 4. for receiueth r. reckeneth p. 18. l. 16. after the word Pope adde these wordes who are very many p. 27. l. 27. for I do r. I owe. p. 31. l. 12. for consequence r. consequentes p. 34. l. 10. for receiued r. reiected In the Margent Pag. 8. l. 18. Doct. Downam against Antich l. 5. Sect. 10. omitted p. 11. for Heric Magist r. Heric doctor Magist p. 14. for Salu. sempit r. sacr script for de sar de sacram p. 21. Greg. Tom. 3. p. 291. placed in the margent to no purpose p. 27. this quotation Prefac synod Trul. ad Iustin should be placed 2. lines higher Many of which the carefull reader I hope will easily obserue and pardon