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the_o remonstrance_n 20._o of_o the_o lord_n aubigny_n and_o montague_n as_o likewise_o of_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o english_a and_o irish_a chaplain_n to_o either_o queen_n and_o the_o grand_a mistake_n i._n e._n omission_n at_o first_o in_o pass_v they_o by_o and_o the_o great_a use_n make_v of_o that_o omission_n 20_o 21._o sixteen_o several_a reason_n cause_n or_o pretence_n thereof_o and_o all_o and_o each_o of_o they_o regard_v only_o temporal_a end_n or_o worldly_a interest_n and_o this_o too_o mistake_v 22._o from_o thence_o to_o 27._o as_o many_o several_a answer_n which_o be_v give_v by_o the_o procurator_n to_o those_o reason_n 27._o and_o from_o thence_o to_o 41._o neither_o uncatholickness_n nor_o other_o unlawfulness_n in_o subscribe_v all_o the_o while_n so_o much_o as_o pretend_v by_o any_o in_o ireland_n not_o even_o of_o those_o that_o allege_v so_o many_o other_o excuse_n 42._o the_o more_o ample_a account_n translate_v at_o rome_n in_o order_n to_o be_v censure_v 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prove_v false_a 65_o etc._n etc._n their_o three_o also_o concern_v the_o authority_n of_o general_n council_n to_o be_v undervalue_v by_o the_o
that_o they_o may_v be_v free_a from_o all_o tie_n of_o duty_n faith_n obedience_n and_o acknowledgement_n or_o recognition_n of_o his_o majesty_n authority_n over_o they_o etc._n etc._n 1._o this_o general_a exception_n prove_v manifold_o viz._n 1._o by_o four_o several_a instance_n of_o such_o variation_n 2._o by_o two_o notable_a observation_n add_v to_o those_o instance_n 3._o by_o examine_v all_o and_o every_o of_o the_o several_a part_n period_n or_o clause_n of_o their_o say_a remonstrance_n and_o what_o their_o meaning_n in_o each_o must_v be_v and_o consequent_o by_o discover_v all_o their_o subtlety_n of_o ampliation_n restriction_n abstraction_n constraction_n modification_n equivocation_n reservation_n in_o fine_a all_o their_o evasion_n and_o subterfuge_n yea_o their_o belove_a distinction_n as_o well_o of_o fact_n and_o right_n as_o of_o the_o reduplicative_a and_o specificative_a sense_n 4._o by_o eighteen_o special_a exception_n all_o from_o pag._n 1._o to_o 20_o or_o 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can_v be_v from_o their_o sole_a remonstrance_n take_v according_a to_o or_o in_o that_o sense_n of_o they_o declare_v and_o prove_v to_o be_v they_o in_o the_o former_a treatise_n pag._n 21._o the_o unreasonable_a obstinacy_n of_o the_o congregation_n as_o well_o in_o frame_v their_o say_a remonstrance_n as_o in_o apply_v their_o say_v three_o proposition_n both_o manifest_o and_o manifold_o appear_v 23._o first_o and_o second_o argument_n to_o prove_v this_o ib._n three_o argument_n which_o be_v ab_fw-la intrinseco_fw-la 24._o the_o say_v three_o sorbon_n proposition_n apply_v etc._n etc._n 25._o four_o several_a explication_n of_o the_o first_o of_o those_o three_o sorbon_n proposition_n and_o all_o those_o explication_n own_a by_o the_o chief_a divine_n of_o that_o congregation_n ib._n first_o exposition_n 25._o second_o and_o three_o 26._o the_o four_o and_o last_o 29._o exposition_n questionless_a even_o each_o or_o every_o of_o they_o able_a to_o ââict_v from_o any_o man_n this_o confession_n that_o for_o neither_o of_o both_o parâs_n or_o both_o together_o the_o first_o proposition_n add_v nothing_o at_o all_o to_o their_o remonstrance_n pag._n 30._o their_o second_o proposition_n liable_a to_o the_o same_o exception_n abstraction_n reservation_n equivocation_n and_o even_a distinction_n of_o the_o reduplicative_a and_o specificative_a sense_n ib._n their_o three_o proposition_n also_o how_o specious_a soever_o yet_o as_o from_o they_o be_v whole_o insignificant_a as_o be_v subject_a especial_o to_o the_o distinction_n of_o the_o reduplicative_a and_o specificative_a sense_n of_o fact_n and_o of_o right_a of_o humane_a or_o temporal_a and_o divine_a or_o spiritual_a yea_o of_o ordinary_a and_o extraordinary_a etc._n etc._n 31._o three_o argument_n in_o form_n 30._o proof_n that_o the_o three_o sorbon_n proposition_n both_o in_o themselves_o and_o as_o apply_v by_o the_o foresay_a congregation_n be_v liable_a rational_o to_o such_o construction_n 33._o four_o and_o five_o argument_n 34._o a_o evasion_n obviate_v 35._o the_o parisian_a censure_n of_o sanctarellus_n at_o length_n 35_o 36._o confirm_v by_o the_o seven_o other_o university_n of_o france_n 38._o in_o the_o four_o treatise_n contain_v answer_n to_o the_o reason_n why_o the_o congregation_n will_v not_o sign_n any_o of_o the_o three_o latter_a of_o the_o six_o sorbon_n declaration_n etc._n etc._n their_o title_n may_v not_o unground_o be_v turn_v to_o this_o other_o the_o jesuit_n reason_n unreasonable_a pag._n 39_o the_o three_o reject_a proposition_n or_o declaration_n 40._o the_o first_o paragraph_n of_o their_o paper_n of_o reason_n etc._n etc._n contain_v the_o first_o or_o rather_o only_o general_a reason_n allege_v by_o the_o congregation_n for_o reject_v they_o ib._n that_o general_a reason_n be_v in_o effect_n either_o the_o impertinency_n of_o all_o and_o each_o of_o the_o say_v four_o five_o and_o six_o of_o the_o six_o late_a sorbon_n declaration_n to_o assure_v his_o majesty_n of_o great_a britain_n of_o the_o future_a allegiance_n of_o the_o irish_a or_o be_v the_o insignificancy_n of_o the_o same_o three_o late_a proposition_n to_o assure_v he_o any_o more_o or_o better_a of_o the_o irish_a clergy_n fidelity_n than_o his_o majesty_n may_v have_v be_v by_o their_o two_o former_a instrument_n viz._n their_o remonstrance_n and_o their_o three_o first_o of_o the_o say_v six_o sorbon_n proposition_n ib._n the_o end_n which_o the_o author_n have_v in_o answer_v as_o well_o that_o first_o or_o rather_o only_o indeed_o but_o no_o less_o false_a than_o general_a reason_n as_o all_o the_o rest_n follow_v i_o confess_v pretend_v but_o in_o truth_n likewise_o very_o false_a specifical_a reason_n or_o rather_o pretend_v specifical_a proof_n of_o the_o foresay_a general_a one_o viz._n by_o induction_n of_o particular_n ib._n the_o second_o paragraph_n of_o their_o paper_n i._n e._n the_o first_o of_o their_o specifical_a reason_n or_o proof_n viz._n that_o they_o look_v upon_o the_o four_o proposition_n of_o sorbon_n as_o not_o material_a in_o their_o debate_n for_o &c_n &c_n answer_v by_o demonstrate_v the_o contrary_a as_o to_o every_o point_n of_o their_o allegation_n 41_o 42_o 43_o 44._o particular_o their_o speak_v these_o word_n we_o conceive_v not_o etc._n etc._n in_o their_o general_a reason_n and_o in_o their_o say_a first_o specifical_a these_o other_o word_n we_o look_v upon_o it_o etc._n etc._n so_o much_o in_o truth_n against_o their_o own_o certain_a knowledge_n and_o therefore_o conscience_n answer_v 40_o 41._o and_o their_o horn_a argument_n or_o dilemma_n answer_v 42._o and_o their_o say_n that_o they_o conceive_v not_o what_o more_o they_o may_v have_v say_v thaâ_n have_v be_v touch_v already_o positive_o in_o their_o remonstrance_n answer_v 43._o they_o may_v in_o terminis_fw-la apply_v the_o say_v four_o to_o themselves_o have_v say_v that_o we_o do_v not_o approve_v nor_o ever_o shall_v any_o proposition_n 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and_o what_o i_o promise_v or_o undertake_v either_o in_o this_o present_a section_n or_o in_o my_o lxii_o section_n against_o the_o divine_n of_o louvain_n therefore_o i_o say_v three_o i_o be_o likewise_o as_o sure_o of_o this_o three_o way_n of_o refute_v the_o foresay_a three_o answer_n and_o prove_v my_o own_o purpose_n or_o confirm_v my_o above_o four_o grand_a argument_n even_o as_o to_o both_o premise_n and_o every_o part_n of_o they_o as_o i_o have_v show_v already_o that_o i_o have_v reason_n to_o be_v of_o the_o two_o former_a way_n uz._n the_o text_n itself_o and_o rational_a sense_n of_o the_o law_n and_o the_o chief_a motive_n and_o end_n of_o the_o same_o law_n or_o of_o that_o whole_a context_n of_o paul_n wherein_o it_o be_v write_v and_o deliver_v to_o we_o for_o to_o begin_v with_o st._n augustine_n although_o he_o be_v not_o the_o first_o or_o ancient_a of_o the_o father_n i_o quote_v or_o who_o according_a to_o the_o age_n of_o christianity_n treat_v first_o to_o our_o purpose_n of_o this_o matter_n for_o in_o that_o i_o do_v not_o tie_v myself_o here_o to_o a_o method_n as_o neither_o in_o give_v together_o all_o place_n or_o passage_n of_o the_o same_o or_o other_o father_n without_o interposition_n of_o those_o of_o some_o other_o it_o be_v plain_a enough_o that_o he_o be_v home_o enough_o in_o psal_n 118._o conc_fw-fr 31._o where_o he_o discourse_v thus_o principes_fw-la persecuti_fw-la sunt_fw-la i_o gratis_o quid_fw-la enim_fw-la christiani_n laeserant_fw-la regna_fw-la terrena_fw-la ut_fw-la principes_fw-la persecutionem_fw-la in_o eos_fw-la excitarent_fw-la sine_fw-la causa_fw-la quamvis_fw-la eye_v regnum_fw-la salorum_fw-la promiserit_fw-la rex_fw-la eorum_fw-la quid_fw-la inquam_fw-la laeserant_fw-la regna_fw-la terrena_fw-la numquid_fw-la eârum_fw-la rex_fw-la milites_fw-la suos_fw-la prohibuit_fw-la impedire_fw-la &_o exhibere_fw-la quae_fw-la debentur_fw-la regibus_fw-la terre_fw-fr nun_n de_fw-fr hoc_fw-la sibi_fw-la calumniam_fw-la molientibus_fw-la judeis_fw-la ait_fw-la matthaei_n 22.20_o reddite_fw-la cesari_n quae_fw-la cesaris_fw-la sunt_fw-la &_o deo_fw-la quae_fw-la dei_fw-la sunt_fw-la nun_n tributum_fw-la de_fw-la ore_fw-la piscis_fw-la etiam_fw-la ipse_fw-la persoluit_fw-la mat._n 17.23_o nun_n praecursor_fw-la eius_fw-la militibus_fw-la regni_fw-la bujus_fw-la quod_fw-la facere_fw-la deberent_fw-la pro_fw-la aeterna_fw-la salute_n quaerentibus_fw-la non_fw-la ait_fw-la cingulum_n soluite_fw-la armi_fw-la uâstra_fw-la proijcite_fw-la râgein_o vestrum_fw-la deserite_fw-la ut_fw-la possitis_fw-la domino_fw-la militare_fw-la sed_fw-la ait_fw-la lucae_n 3.14_o neminem_fw-la concussâritis_fw-la nulli_fw-la calumniam_fw-la feceritis_fw-la sufficiat_fw-la vibis_fw-la stipendium_fw-la vestrum_fw-la nun_n unus_fw-la militum_fw-la ejus_fw-la &_o dilectissimus_fw-la comes_fw-la ejus_fw-la commilit_fw-la nibus_fw-la suis_fw-la &_o quâdammodo_fw-la christi_fw-la provincialibus_fw-la dixit_fw-la rom._n 13.1_o omnis_fw-la anima_fw-la potestatibus_fw-la sublimioribus_fw-la subditae_fw-la sit_fw-la &_o paulo_fw-la post_fw-la ait_fw-la reddite_fw-la omnibus_fw-la debita_fw-la cvi_fw-la tributum_fw-la etc._n etc._n et_fw-la 1_o timoth._n 2.2_o praecepit_fw-la ut_fw-la pro_fw-la ipsis_fw-la etiam_fw-la regibus_fw-la oraret_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la quid_fw-la ergo_fw-la eos_fw-la christiani_n offenderunt_fw-la quod_fw-la debitum_fw-la non_fw-la reddiderunt_fw-la in_o quo_fw-la christiani_n non_fw-la sunt_fw-la terrenis_fw-la regibus_fw-la obsecuti_fw-la ergo_fw-la terreni_fw-la reges_a christianos_n gratis_n persecuti_fw-la sunt_fw-la and_o again_o what_o the_o babilonical_a captivity_n signify_v in_o former_a time_n the_o same_o augustine_n tell_v in_o this_o manner_n l._n de_fw-fr catechis_n rud._n c._n 21._o saying_n hoc_fw-la autem_fw-la totum_fw-la figurate_a significat_fw-la ecclaesiam_fw-la christi_fw-la in_o omnibus_fw-la sanctis_fw-la ejus_fw-la qui_fw-la sunt_fw-la cives_fw-la 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