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A46988 The excellency of monarchical government, especially of the English monarchy wherein is largely treated of the several benefits of kingly government, and the inconvenience of commonwealths : also of the several badges of sovereignty in general, and particularly according to the constitutions of our laws : likewise of the duty of subjects, and mischiefs of faction, sedition and rebellion : in all which the principles and practices of our late commonwealths-men are considered / by Nathaniel Johnston ... Johnston, Nathaniel, 1627-1705. 1686 (1686) Wing J877; ESTC R16155 587,955 505

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acquire_v a_o soccage_n tenure_n and_o fee-simple_n estate_n therefore_o the_o foresay_a servitutis_fw-la foresay_a praefat._v roger_n twysden_n fol._n 155._o the_o english_a possess_v their_o land_n by_o ●avour_n not_o otherwise_o hereditary_o so_o mut._n paris_n say_v commilitonibus_fw-la terras_fw-la anglorum_fw-la &_o possessiones_fw-la affluentiori_fw-la manu_fw-la contulit_fw-la illud_fw-la parvum_fw-la quod_fw-la remans●rat_fw-la sub_fw-la jugo_fw-la posuit_fw-la perpetuae_fw-la servitutis_fw-la gervase_n of_o tilbury_n conclude_v this_o observation_n thus_o sic_fw-la igitur_fw-la quisquis_fw-la de_fw-la gente_fw-la subacta_fw-la fundos_fw-la vel_fw-la aliquid_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la possidet_fw-la non_fw-la quod_fw-la ratione_fw-la successionis_fw-la debere_fw-la sibi_fw-la videatur_fw-la adeptus_fw-la est_fw-la sed_fw-la quod_fw-la solummodo_fw-la meritis_fw-la suis_fw-la exigentibus_fw-la vel_fw-la aliqua_fw-la pactione_n interveniente_fw-la obtinuit_fw-la viz._n so_o every_o 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