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A09559	The Spanish pilgrime: or, An admirable discouery of a Romish Catholicke Shewing how necessary and important it is, for the Protestant kings, princes, and potentates of Europe, to make warre vpon the King of Spaines owne countrey: also where, and by what meanes, his dominions may be inuaded and easily ruinated; as the English heretofore going into Spaine, did constraine the kings of Castile to demand peace in all humility, and what great losse it hath beene, and still is to all Christendome, for default of putting the same in execution. Wherein hee makes apparant by good and euident reasons, infallible arguments, most true and certaine histories, and notable examples, the right way, and true meanes to resist the violence of the Spanish King, to breake the course of his designes, to beate downe his pride, and to ruinate his puissance.; Traicte paraenetique. English.		1625 (1625)	STC 19838.5; ESTC S118337	107,979	148

gratifie him be it well or ill done And that which doth make me most out of patience in this behalfe is to see and heare some who moued with an indiscreet zeale or els being wickedly enclined and it may bee guided and seduced by the diuell doe hold any man whomsoeuer a most lewd and vile man and in manner of an heretike who being drawne by a true and iust zeale shall publish this much for a trueth and certaintie in so much that whether it be for feare or for gaine or for hatred or of a disordinate loue and charitie they doe esteeme it a farre worser deede to accuse and to reproue such open knowne iniquities then the very act of doing them All of you in a manner will confesse and can not denie but that all this which hath bene spoken touching the malice of this tyrant is most true and certaine and yet neuerthelesse they themselues will not for all that stick to say that notwithstanding it be so yet it is ill done so to report of a Prince that is so great a Catholike See I pray you what a blindnesse and how strange a matter this is most vnworthie and vnbeseeming any man that would bee counted either a Christian or a iust and honest man Nefarium est maleficum cognitam veritatem damnare It is as the sin of witchcraft to condemne the knowne truth Obiections or allegations of reasons to iustifie or excuse K. Philip. If it bee true and publikely knowne wherefore then doe you contradict it euen against your owne conscience and to the hurt and detriment of others Doe you not knowe that it is a most wicked and cursed thing and a manifest sinfull crime to condemne the knowne and notorious trueth and especially in such thinges which by the commandement of God and in holie and pure religion we are bounden to reproue and reprehend But you will say vnto me that there is reason Princes should bee excused in some faultes when they are otherwise endowed with any notable and excellent vertues And that there did neuer reigne in Spaine any Prince which hath giuen bett●r triall nor made such euident demonstration of him selfe to bee a good Catholike as his Catholike Maiestie of whome now wee are in question There is no Prince that hath so much enlarged and augmented the Catholike faith as hee There was neuer any that did vse the Clergie and all both Ecclesiasticall and Regular persons with greater loue nor greater reuerence And in briefe there is not any hath builded more Monasteries nor edified so many Churches nor exercised so great bountie and liberalitie towards the Church as he hath done for besides the great and excessiue costs and expences which hee hath bene at in building them hee hath founded them with most great and rich rents and reuenues and hath honoured them with most ample and beneficiall priuiledges This is well said Beleeue me my maisters I am infinitely sorrie that I may not briefely aunswer to these propositions for that euerie one of them doeth require a more ample treatise then this worke which wee haue in hand neuerthelesse I will not leaue by the way as it were to say something touching the same An answer to the former obiections or allegations and to shewe you how you doe abuse your selues in all these matters And first to aunswer to the former of your allegations I confesse that you say nothing but reason when a Prince shal be a good Catholiste iust honest and valiant without being liberall it is great reason he should be pardoned of this defect and so doe I thinke also when any of those vertues shal be wanting in a Prince which are conuenient and fit for the royall person and dignitie so as notwithstanding he be furnished and adorned with the residue Howbeit I doe not forget what the commaundement of God is touching this point Quicunque totam legem seruauerit Iames. 2. v. 10. in vno autem offenderit factus est omnium reus whosoeuer shall keepe the whole law and yet faileth in one point he is guiltie of all But I speake now as touching man and in respect of men onely and not of God and I am of this opinion that if a Prince be touched with some notable vice as if he be vniust or cruell or a tyrant or an ill or loose liuer c. yet being accompanied and furnished with other vertues we ought not neuerthelesse for any one of those vices aboue mentioned how great and haynous so euer it be neither to reuolt from him nor yet so to complot or conspire against him as to procure his ruine and d●struction for asmuch as in seeking his ruine we shall sooner finde our own which Fraunce hath w●ll p●ooued of to her cost But we are bound to haue our recourse to God by hartie prayer fasting and abstinence and to pray to his diuine Maiestie Good and wholesome counsel for the demeanor of subiects towards their Princes to turne his mercie toward him and to pardon him and to giue him grace and vnderstanding to auoide that which is euill and iudgement and wisedoome to choose that which is good that hee would giue him a concrite and humble heart and would deale with him according to his mercies to the intent the sweete smelling sacrifice may ascend vp to heauen and that of his clemencie it would please him to receiue his prayers and oblations made vnto his diuine Maiestie By such meanes did the people of Loraine obtaine by the mercie and fauour of God so much grace for their Duke Thierri the sonne of William the brother of Godfrey and Balawin Kings of Ierusalem a most cruell and tyrannicall Prince one that was a persecuter of the Church of God and an oppresser of his subiects and vassals in so much as he did not only come to himselfe and amended his wick●d life but also restoring that which he had wrong●ully taken he withdrew shut himselfe vp in a Monasterie where by the space of foure yeares before his death he led a perfect holy life O that it would please God that your great friend Philip the Catholike in whom are wanting all the vertues which are fit and decent for a good and iust Prince would doe the like and would restore vnto others the goods liuings taken from them after the example of Duke Thierri and not as did Charles the fift his father And let this suffice for an aunswer to the first proposition alledged by you As touching the second true it is that Philip hath greatly aduaunced the Christian faith in the West Indies in so much that this doeth serue him greatly as a cloake or mantle to couer and to augment his vsurped power and tyrannie but this good worke ought to bee imputed to such deuout and religious persons both of his subiects and others as haue bene the instruments thereof rather then to him See I pray you and consider well how hee

the Countie de Altimira and the Leane of S. Iames de Compostella and many other Gentlemen insomuch that they of the citie had resolued that as soone as they should see the Fleet and sea forces of the English to passe the Tower of Bethleem or the Armie by land to giue an assault vnto the citie the Cardinall of Austria would haue embarked himselfe with all his people to passe on the other side of the sea and for this purpose they held all the Gallies and many barkes in a readinesse to set saile Amongst which there were many hired for 300 duckats for the passage of three leagues onely This counsell being ended and Drake himselfe being a boord the ship called the Reuenge did set saile about three houres after noone and tooke his course towards Lisbon Some thought he went to see the channell of Alcacena which is an entry into the Hauen by which men do commonly passe which would auoyd the danger of the Tower of S. Iulian because in this councell where had beene called many old Pylots Portugals Tower of S. Iulian. who were very expert and well acquainted in that sea it was resolued that the Fleet and sea forces should enter that way for their more surety besides that at that time there was water enough for them by reason of the coniunction of the Moone Drake taketh the Sea contrary to the resolution taken in counsel and the winde also was very fauourable vnto them Notwithstanding Drake when it grew towards euening turned the head of his ship to the Westward by reason he was aduertised that there passed by a Fleet of thirty saile of Esterlings of the which hee tooke 25. or 26. But this hindered the resolution formerly taken so as it sorted not to that effect which was purposed And it constrained the Lord Generall Norris The embarking of the army for England the King and the Earle of Essex to embarke themselues the day following and to take the Sea where they met with Drake the Friday following I suppose that this short Discourse which I haue here set downe without specifying of any other the particularities of this expedition will suffice to satisfie the desire of your Maiesties and to shew the cause why there was nothing done in Portugall and that Gods will was not as yet to re-establish her by the meanes of this voyage And I say moreouer that the principall cause The reason why so many faults were committed in the English Armie for Portugall why so many faults and ouersights were committed and that nothing was performed or put in execution according as had been resolued in councell was because this armie was leui●d by Merchants whereas in matters of this kinde Princes onely ought to employ themselues and that with a setled and aduised deliberation in such sort that there ought not any name of an army to be vsed but by and from them onely and they ought to haue more interest therein then any other and ought to be at the whole and onely costs and charges both of leuying and maintaining of all armed forces And last of all to them alone doth belong the choyse and election both of the Heads and Leaders and of one Generall and chiefe Commander vnto whom as to the Soueraigne all the others should be subiect and obedient See then the reason why the Lord Generall Drake being named and sent by Merchants who were most ingaged in this voyage did frame himself to do that which they would and what came into his owne braine and fancy rather then that which the other Lord Generall Norris did well and wisely aduise and counsell him who was a man of singular experience wisdome and vnderstanding as well in politike gouernment as in deeds of Armes and all matters of warfare For this worthy Lord did striue and labor by all meanes conuenient to haue made a longer abode in Portugall both in the quarters of Lisbon and elsewhere but after that the army had once set sayle the said Lord General Norris could not from thence forward by any entreaties perswade Drake to set foot on land againe in Portugall and not so much as to take one Citie where it was wel knowne that there was not any forces nor any resistance made neyther was there any meane for the enemie eyther to haue succoured it or after the taking thereof to besiege it for one yeere at the least Besides that with the same it is most certaine that they might haue found in Gold Siluer Silkes and Clothes more then a million of Duckats Moreouer the said place might easily haue beene fortified and by that meanes might haue commanded many other places and afterwards money being sent into France England Holland and other parts they might haue leuied and led thither aboue fiftie thousand souldiers sooner then the enemie could haue gotten together fiue thousand And this I thinke will suffice for your Maiesties to vnderstand that which you desire in this behalfe But now let vs returne to the purpose which wee had in hand We haue said that by this one example it may easily be perceiued how faithfull and loyall the Portugall Nation is to them vnto whom they do once promise faith and loyaltie and therefore God graunt that they doe not accord nor vnite themselues to the Castilian and that neyther your Maiesties nor the other Princes and Potentates of Europe doe not consent nor permit them to doe it nor doe giue them occasion to lose the hopes which they yet haue of their libertie And you ought not to attend or stay vpon the death of Philip for it may be that the Portugall will more easily accord with the sonne then with the father And further as the Monarchie of the Castillian is neyther gouerned nor conserued with the sword but by good and sage counsaile so albeit he should die yet the same counsaile continueth and remaineth still Besides for these many yeeres of late it hath beene gouerned without his presence and therefore there is little or no hope for any great change or alteration by his death Now of what great weight and importance this matter will be Don Francisco de Ivara the father of Don Diego de Ivara lately Embassadour at Paris during the League did confesse and make knowne vnto a French Gentleman at Madril in the yeere 1579. The Gentleman is yet liuing and can testifie the truth of that which I will now tell you The said Francis demaunding of that Gentleman who was then newly come from Barbarie where the late King had sent him for certaine of his affaires what newes hee brought out of that Countrey his answere was That the Moores were in a notable feare by reason they had intelligence that the King Catholike did leuie a great Armie to passe into Barbarie to reuenge the death of his Nephew the King Don Sebastian The speech of a Spanish nobleman to a French Gentleman Whereunto the sayd Francis replyed It is not