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A13025 A generall treatise against poperie and in defence of the religion by publike authoritie professed in England and other churches reformed. VVherein they that either want leisure to read, or that haue not iudgement to conceiue, or that are not able to buie the learned treatises of other concerning particular points of religion, may yet euidently see poperie not to be of God, and our religion to be acceptable in his sight. Very necessarie for these times, for the confirmation and strengthening of men in our religion, that neither by Iesuits, nor by any other, they may be drawne to poperie, or any other heresie or sect: and likewise for the winning of Papists and atheists to an vnfained liking and true profession of our religion. By Thomas Stoughton minister of the word Stoughton, Thomas. 1598 (1598) STC 23316; ESTC S113794 180,055 360

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saluatiō by his own good works so that whereas the Scripture teacheth vs that a man is onelie iustified and saued by a true and liuelie faith in Christ Iesus Poperie teacheth that a man is iustified not by such a faith alone but also by workes partlie of himselfe and partly of other 4 So the Scripture teacheth that Christ Iesus is a perfect Sauiour which hath redeemed vs from all iniquitie and that with once offring vp of himselfe once I say for all and for euer but popery teacheth that he hath onely satisfied for sinnes before Baptisme and that he must dailie be offred vp by the hands of some greasie priest The Scripture teacheth that there is certainely no cōdemnation to them that are in Christ Iesus that they that loue the brethren are of the truth and shal before him assure their hearts that they shall neuer perish out of the handes of Christ Iesus c but poperie teacheth that it is presūption for any mā to say that he is assured of these things The Scripture teacheth vs that Christ his humanitie is in heauen and shal be in heauen till his second cōming vnto iudgement but popery teacheth vs that it is euen now vpon the earth that in manie places at one and the same time The Scripture teacheth vs that Christ his bodie glorified doth so retaine the essentiall qualities of a true bodie that it may be discerned to haue both flesh bones by our outward senses Luk. 24. 39. But poperie teacheth that it is so altered and chaunged that neither by sight nor by taste nor by touching and feeling it can be discerned to haue any more flesh and bone then a peece of bread yea then a wafer cake as thinne as a paper The Scripture forbiddeth all grauen or painted Images of any thing whatsoeuer and wheresoeuer to be made and worshiped or anie waies religiously to be bowed vnto but popery commaundeth the making and worshipping of Images of things in heauen and in earth materiall and spirituall visible and inuisible knowne and vnknowne liuing and without life euen of the materiall and woodden crosse of Christ The Scripture forbiddeth all detraction from and all addition vnto it selfe binding this prohibition with a commination of a fearefull curse to anie that shall so doe but poperie hath not feared to cut of the whole second commaundement and many other thinges neither to adde whole bookes to the Cannon of the Scriptures The Scripture condemneth all praiers of the mouth in anie vnknowne tongue without vnderstanding and affection but poperie teacheth that in praier and all other things opus operatum the worke done howsoeuer it be done with affection or without affection is meritorious and that all praiers of all persons and in al places must be in the latine tongue albeit they that pray vnderstand neuer a word and may as well be taught to say O Deuill which art in hell as Our father which art in heauen yea and so they oftentimes pray for ought they knowe to the contrary For howsoeuer the Pope hath canonized Thomas Becket as it is said Edmund Campian other of that traiterous nest for Saints yet their treasons for which they were iustly cut off by the sword of the ciuill magistrate and their damnable heresies and horrible blasphemies whereof they shewed no repentance doe rather condemne them for diuells in hell then commend them for Saints in heauen The Scriptures commend the obseruation of the Lord his day aboue all other daies condemning also the obseruation of any other day in like sort perpetuallie but poperie commandeth more holidaies now then were euer commanded by God himselfe in the time of the law and that to be kept as strictly as the Lords daie it selfe The scripture teacheth that al things are cleane to the cleane but poperie maketh such difference of meates drinkes apparell c. and teacheth that at some times all flesh is polluted that it defileth whosoeuer eateth thereof more then swearing fornication and such like things as God himselfe hath expressely forbidden The Scripture commaundeth to gather vp the basest of God his creatures that nothing be lost but poperie commandeth vpon Sh●oue-tuseday that whatsoeuer of the best flesh be left it should be cast vnto the dogges and ●o vtterly lost rather then saued for the good of any man The Scripture teacheth vs onely to call vpon God in the dare of our trouble and to praie onely to him when we may call Our Father which art in heauen but poperie teacheth vs to pray to the virgin Marie Saint Peter Saint Iohn Saint Swithin c. yea to the eyes nose mouth c. to the neckerchiffe girdle c. of the virgin Marie as is manifest by some of their olde printed praier bookes The Scripture teacheth by sentence and example of Priests Leuites Prophets Apostles c. that marriage is honourable in all men though as holy as Adam was before his fall but poperie teacheth vs that at sometimes of the yeare marriage is vnlawfull for all men and at all times for the ministers of the word in regard of their holy function The Scripture teacheth vs that euery soule ought to be subiect to the higher power and to honour the King c and that whosoeuer resisteth such power resisteth the ordinance of God but poperie teacheth vs that the cleargie is exempted from all ciuill power and may not be called before any such magistrates neither be punished by any ciuill laws To finish this argument drawne from the repugnancie of the matter of poperie to the Scriptures and that religion which they commend I must euen say as the Apostle saith Heb. 11. 23. What shall I say more the time would be to● short to tell of Gedeon Baruch c. so I say must I say what shal I say more long time would be too short and much paper too little to set down all the repugnancies and contrarieties of the matter of Poperie and of the matter of that religion which is commended vnto vs in the scriptures Can both therefore be of God and acceptable vnto God that is alvvaies the same and in whome there is no chaunge nor shadow of chaunge THE FOVRTH ARGVMENT touching the forme of true religion THat which hath beene said of the matter of poperie in respect of the matter of that religion which is commended in the scriptures may be said of the forme God is a Spirit and therefore to be vvorshipped in spirit and truth Ioh. 4. 24. But poperie prescribeth such a carnall and fleshly forme and manner of worship as if God were all flesh and no spirit God oftentimes commaundeth himselfe to be worshipped onely according to his owne word And truly if Princes may lawfully require obedience and seruice of their subiects according to their owne lawes with much more equitie may God the Prince of princes require seruice according to his owne statutes and ordinances Therefore he doth iustly refuse the traditions precepts and doctrines
of men in his worship Isa 29. 13. Math. 15. 3. and in many other places doth he also condemne wil worship and such as is forged onely in the forge of man his wit but poperie prescribeth a forme of God his worshippe principally according to the doctrines of men and least of all according to the doctrine of God himselfe Yea to speake according to truth they haue brought such a darke cloud of the precepts of men into the worship of God that a man can hardly discerne whether they worship God according to any of his owne precepts Yea to speake yet more plaine they make so many images crosses reliques of saints they make so many praiers to Saints and offer so many gifts vnto them they haue so many pilgrimages in their honour they repose so much trust and confidence in all these things they bestow so much cost vpon them they so precisely and superstitiously obserue daies consecrated vnto them c. that a man cannot well saie that they worship God in any manner at all As for their foolish distinction digged onely out of that colepit from whence they haue digged their Images reliques and inuocation of Saints c. as none of their learned sort haue euer bene able to defend it so not one of fiue thousand of the vulgar people doe know or vnderstand it How then can they regard it or tell when they giue that vnto God which they giue vnto saints and images c. or that to these things which they should by their owne doctrine onely giue vnto God 2 Neither doe they onely worshippe these things but also a peece of bread which as soone as they haue adored goeth into the mouth from their mouth into the stomacke from the stomacke into the paunch and from the paunch out againe of the bodie all men know whither That this is so whatsoeuer the ignorant are perswaded to the contrarie is manifest because that if a man were driuen to that necessitie that he had no other meate to eate then their consecrated host as they call it as sometime Dauid was forced to eate of the shewbread I am sure they could not denie but that their host so eaten for a weeke or a moneth together would nourish the naturall man as well as other bread so as that their should be as good digestion and egestion of that as also of other bread or meate if it be so can the nature of it be so altered according to their doctrine and by their inchanting sorceries as that there should remaine nothing but accidents of bread It is most absurd it is most ridiculous For how can meere accidents nourish a materiall substance and make a materiall egestion If they saie that all this is done by the substance of Christ his very bodie they speake the more grossely in making that foode for this natural life and the more blasphemously in saying that that goes into the draught Againe in such a case I demand also whether a man forced to liue onely by such meanes for a time or so liuing voluntarily by getting some way or other all the Hosts to himselfe in a cuntrie could liue by them alone without drinke Certenly by their doctrine for the administring of the sacramēt in one kind onely it should be so For they say that one kind onely is sufficient because the blood of Christ is alwaies with the bodie per concomitantiam So then by this reason a man that should haue nothing but their host for a weeke or moneth or longer time to liue vpon should not onely haue meate but also drinke For they must as wel grāt the blood of Christ to be sufficient to quench thirst as his flesh to satisfie hunger Yet for all this let one of them trie but so litle a time to liue in this manner I meane onely feeding vpon nothing but vpon breade consecrated by some Papist and I doubt not but that he will be glad to aske his neighbour a cup of some other drinke beside that spiritual drinke which he hath by concomitance as they speak of his foode Yea if some Papist would trie this way to liue but a little while he should quickly finde the knauerie of transubstantiation and consequently also the impietie of all poperie 3 Nowe to returne from whence we haue made this digression the Papists doe not onely worship the crosse reliques and such like things but such as are no reliques of the Saints peeces of woode in stead of peeces of the crosse whereon Christ was nailed For if so many Churches should haue such large thongs of the very crosse of Christ as the Papists say they haue all gathered together would load the best shippe in England then no maruaile indeede though Christ were wearie of bearing his crosse what a gyant was Simon of Syrene whom they compelled to beare such a burthen O say they you doe not vnderstand the mysterie For the crosse of Christ was not so heauie as al the peeces now laid together would be How so because euer as one peece was cut off the remainder did grow to the former greatnes and was neuer a whit lesse then at the first but notwithstanding all the peeces cut off it still remaineth whole Let him that list beleeue this my name is Thomas and I will not beleeue it till I see it therefore I shall neuer beleeue it Touching their worship of reliques he that will haue sport let him read M. Caluin of that matter I meane his little booke of reliques where amongst other reliques he shall finde Christ his foreskinne cut off when he was circumcised his shooes the earth that laie vnder his feete when he raised vp Lazarus from the dead the title set ouer his head at his crucifying his thornie crowne the dish wherein he did eate the paschall lambe the napkin about his head when he was buried yea the very taile of the asse whereon he rode and many such morsels 4 By these things hitherto spoken we see how contrarie poperie is vnto the religion commended in the Scriptures both in matter and also in forme Who therefore that knoweth the constant immutable and spirituall nature of God can be perswaded in any reason that poperie should be acceptable vnto God If out of one fountaine cannot come both sweete and sowre waters can two religions so contrarie come from one and the same God If God approoue that religion which is commended in the Scriptures then he must needes disalow of that which is contrarie thereunto or if he allow of that religion which is contrarie to the Scriptures then he must also disallow of the religion commended in the Scriptures If therefore no man dare thinke that God disalloweth of the religion commended in the scriptures let no man dare to thinke that he alloweth poperie so contrarie thereunto Now as touching our religion both matter and forme agree with the Scriptures We commend knowledge we commend and teach all that the scriptures commend
saie his pride be considered against men as before it hath beene noted against God For how can he that lifteth himselfe aboue God or at the least matcheth himselfe in all things with God make any account of men This pride of his against men is so well knowne to all that fewe words thereof will suffice For how doth he entertaine the ambassadours of all Princes sent vnto him or any other that goe to see his holines what curtesie doth he shew them Forsooth he vouchsafeth nothing vnto them but onely the kissing of his filthie foote Therefore if the Earle of Wylshire his dogge at the holding forth of the Pope his foote to be kissed of some there present had bitten it cleane off as he ranne took it into his mouth had he not beene as worthie thereof as Iezabel was to be wholly eaten and deuoured of dogges How also doth his pride appeare in riding vpon mens shoulders as thinking the earth too base for his princely foote to tread thereon and all other creatures almost too vyle to beare his diuine person What shall we say also of his triple crowne of most pure golde set with all pretious stones not like to the thornie crowne that Christ did weare but farre passing all the diademes of all other Princes yea what further shall we say of his monstrous abusing of the Emperours from time to time when they were greater then now they are Hath he not made them with their wiues and children to waite many daies togither at his court gates as if they had beene beggers at some rich man his dore crauing an almes of some small peece of siluer or of bread and cheese Hath he not sent them whither it pleased himselfe to doe their penance inioyned by him Hath he not commanded them what seruice he would as if they had not onely beene his pages but also his lackies Hath he not commanded them to hold his s●yrrop and rewarded them with a blow on the eare for holding the wrong styrrop Hath he not troad on their necks hath he not crowned them with his feete will any doubt of these things because they are reported by M. Fox in the booke of Martyrs Let him knowe that M. Fox hath these things out of the bookes of other euen of their owne religion which haue written more largely of these things then M. Fox could do● So it pleased God to haue the memoriall of his intollerable pride preserued by his owne brood that the posteritie might make the lesse doubt thereof Againe what shall I saie of the right which he chalengeth to himselfe for aduancing and deposing for setting vp and putting downe Kings and Princes at his pleasure what shall I saie of those bulls excommunications and hellish but yet foolish thunder bolts against the Lord his annointed ouer vs for the cursing of her Maiesties owne person and discharging all her subiects of all obedience vnto her what shall I saie of the continuall debate contention strife and warres which alwaies he hath made betwixt Princes May this fellow truly saie as our Sauiour saith Matth. 11. 29. Learne of me for I am meeke and lowly in heart Nay rather he may truly saie Take heede of me for I am proud and haughtie in heart May he also saie as the Prophet Dauid saith Psal 131. Lord mine eyes are not haughtie neither are mine eyes loftie c Nay rather also he may make a cleane contrarie hymne to be sung in a contrarie tune Saint Peter whose successour he vaunteth himselfe commaunded all men to submit themselues to Kings and to honour them 1. Pet. 2. 13 and 17. But he commandeth all Kings to submit themselues to him and to honour him Saint Peter beeing iustly reprehended by Saint Paul Galat. 2. 14. did patiently take the same reprehension and after that wrote neuerthelesse of Saint Paul 2. Pet. 3. 15. But the Pope to preuent all such reprehensions and to stoppe the mouthes of all men that no man may dare to finde any fault with him chalengeth this as a speciall prerogatiue as we haue heard before that no man may saie vnto him Why dost thou so 6 That which hath bin said of him may also be said of his Cardinalls Bishops other of his traine Like master like man They are all of one broode of the same nature of the same spirite Such also as the Pope himselfe is such haue bin many of his whelps here in England From whom haue all treasons come all insurrections all rebellions all conspiracies against her Maiesties person the whole state of the land Haue they not come from Iesuits Seminary priests and as they call them catholique noble-men and gentlemen It cannot be denied What also shall we say of the murther of the late French king by a Iacobine fryer and of other like practises of the Papists against their Soueraignes in other countries Can the Protestant be iustly charged with any such things against their princes though popish As for that of the Duke of Suffolke against Queene Marie as it was before the title of Queene Marie was thoroughly knowne so all men know what colour of reason he had to doe as he did by the will and testament of that noble Prince king Edward the sixth Besides it is also knowne how soone and willingly he yeelded himselfe As for the Ladie Iane how innocent shee was in that action the Chronicles of our land doe testifie Touching Sir Thomas Wyat he intended no hurt against the person of Queene Marie but by his oath to the will and testament of king Henrie the eight thinking himselfe bound to doe whatsoeuer he could for the hindring of all forraine gouernment he did therefore withstand the comming in of the Spanyard Concerning the late tumult of Hacket and his two associates as Hacket himselfe was iustly executed so the other two were condemned of all men in that behalfe and therefore all men see how farre this differeth from the continuall practises and heynous treasons of the Papists allowed and iustified in their open writings as appeareth by Cardinall Allin his booke of that matter and likewise approoued warranted by the Pope himselfe the head as they say of their Church 7 To leaue this 5. cōmandement let vs come to the next wherein the Lord forbiddeth all crueltie and commandeth all mercie as likewise he doth in many other places Doe they therefore I meane the Pope and Papists as they are Papists behaue themselues any better in obseruation of this commaundement then all the former No certenly but such as their pride is such is their crueltie As the Scripture oftentimes ioyneth these two euills togither so also they concurre in them For it may be truly saide of them as the Prophet writeth of his time psal 73. 6. Pride is as a chayne vnto them and crueltie couereth them as a garment This is manifest by that which hath beene before spoken of the persequution of the Protestants in our owne land of the