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A01730	A plaine declaration that our Brownists be full Donatists by comparing them together from point to point out of the writings of Augustine. Also a replie to Master Greenwood touching read prayer, wherein his grosse ignorance is detected, which labouring to purge himselfe from former absurdities, doth plunge himselfe deeper into the mire. By George Gyffard minister of Gods word in Maldon.	Gifford, George, d. 1620.	1590 (1590)	STC 11862; ESTC S118453	101,969	166

vult defendere nisiquia non valet suas ipse iniurias vindicare God almightie saith this Donatist by the maker of all thinges the Lord Christ left man to his owne free will being created as in the likenes of GOD. For it is written God made man and left him in the power of his owne will Why should that bee plucked from me by humane authoritie which GOD hath bestowed vpon me Marke most worthie man how great sacrileges are committed against God that humane presumption should take that away which he hath giuen and vainly boast it selfe for God with great iniurie to God if he must be defended by men What doth he esteeme of God which will defend him with violence but that he is not able to reuenge the iniuries done vnto him In what sense this Donatist spake thus may best appeare by the answere of Augustine Secundum illas vestras fallacissimas vanissimásque rationes babenis laxatis atque dimissis humanae licentiae impunita peccata omnia relinquentur nullis oppositis repagulis legum nocendi audacia lasciuiendi libido bacchetur non rex suum regnum non dux militem non prouincialem iudex non dominus seruum nec pater filium à libertate suauitate peccandi minis vllis paenisue compescat Auferte quod sana doctrina pro sanitate orbis terrarum sapienter per Apostolorum dicit vt confirmetis in arbitrio tanto peiore quanto liberiore filios perditionis delete quod ait vas electionis omnis anima potestatibus sublimioribus subdita sit non est enim potestas nisi à deo Quae autem à deo sunt ordinata sunt Quapropter qui resistit potestati dei ordinationi resistit Qui autem resistunt ipsi sibi iudicium acquirunt Principes enim non sunt timori boni operis sed mali Vis autem non timere potestatem Fac bonum habebis laudē ex illa Dei enim minister est vindex in iram ei qui male agit Delete ista si potestis aut ista sicut facitis si non potestis delere cōtemnite Habete de his omnibus pessimum arbitriū ne perdatis liberū arbitriū aut certe quia sicut homines hominibus erubescitis clamate si audetis puniātur homicidia puniantur adulteria puniantur caetera quātalibet sceleris siue libidinis facinora seu flagitia sola sacrilegia volumus à regnantiū legibus impunita An verò aliud dicitis cū dicitis magna dei iniuria si ab hominibus defendatur Quid de deo aestimat qui eū violētia vult defendere nisi quia nō valet suas ipse iniurias vindicare Haec dicentes quid aliud dicitis nisi nulla hominis potestas cōtradicat atque obstrepat nostro libero arbitrio quando iniuriam facimus deo That is According to these your most deceiuable most vaine reasons the raines being let loose to humane licentiousnes all sinnes shall be let goe vnpunished no barres of lawes opposed the boldnes to hurt and lust of rioting shall rage euery where the King shall not with any threatnings or penalties restraine his kingdome nor the Captaine the souldier nor the Iudge any of his circuit nor the master his seruant nor the father his sonne from the libertie and sweetnes of sinning Take away that which sound doctrine for the health of the world saith wiselie by the Apostle and that ye may confirme the children of perdition in a will by how much the more free by so much the worse blot out that which the elect vessell saith Let euerie soule be subiect to the higher powers for there is no power but of God The powers that bee are ordained of God Wherefore he that resisteth the power resisteth the ordinance of God and they that resist shall receiue to themselues damnation For Princes are not a terrour for well dooing but for euill Wilt thou not feare the power Doo well and thou shalt haue praise of it for he is the minister of God for wrath to take vengeance vpon the euill doer Blot out these things if ye can or else as ye doo despise these thinges because ye cannot blot them out Haue a will concerning al these things most euill that ye may not lose your free will Or verely because as men ye are ashamed before men crie out if ye dare let murtherers be punished let adulteries bee punished let other whatsoeuer enormities hainous deeds of wickednes lust be punished wee will that only sacrilegies go vnpunished by the lawes of princes Do ye say any other thing when ye say it is great iniurie to God that he should be defended by men What doth he esteeme of God which will defend him with violence but that he is not able to reuēge the iniuries done to him saying these things what other thing say yee but that no power of man must gainsay or mutter against our free will when we doo iniurie to God Thus farre Augustine But let vs see further what Gaudentius saith Sed belliferae pacis cruentaeque vnitatis se incolas iactant audiant Dominum dicentem pacem meam do vobis pacem relinquo vobis non sicut seculum dat ego do vobis Seculi enim pax inter animos gentium dissidentes armis belli exitu foederatur domini Christi pax salubri lenitate tranquilla volentes inuitat non cogit inuitos But they boast themselues saieth the Donatist as inhabitants of warring peace and bloudie vnitie Let them heare the Lord saying My peace I giue vnto yee my peace I leaue vnto ye not as the world giueth doo I giue For the peace of the world when the minds of the Nations are at discord is couenanted or established with armour and euent of warre The peace of the Lord Christ being calme with healthfull lenitie inuiteth the willing compelleth not the vnwilling This Donatist addeth Ad docendum populum Israel omnipotens Deus prophetis praeconium dedit non regibus imper auit Saluator animarum Dominus Christus ad insinuandam fidem piscatores non milites misit To teach the people of Israel almightie God gaue prophets to preach he inioyned not Kings The sauiour of Soules the Lord Christ to insinuate faith sent fishers and not Souldiers Booke 2. against Gaudentius chapt 11. 16. 26. Let vs see also what Petillian that other Donatist Bishop saith booke 2. against him Chapter 78. Charitas non persequitur non aduersus caeteras animas Imperatores inflammat Charity doth not persecute it doth not inflame or kindle the wrath of rulers against others This was the out-crie of the Donatists against the godly teachers of the churches when the Emperours made any lawes to driue them from their madnes that they had inflamed the rulers to persecute them Iesus Christus it a sidem vener at facere non vt cogeret homines sed potius inuitaret Iesus Christ came so to worke faith not that hee might

compell men but rather inuite them Quodsi cogi per legem aliquem vel ad bona licuisser vosipsi miseri a nobis ad sidem purissimam cogi debuistis Sed absit absit a nostra conscientia vt ad nostram sidem aliquem compellamus If it were lawfull saith this Donatist that anie should by the Lawe be compelled yea euen vnto good things you wretches ought to bee compelled by vs to the most pure faith but farre be it farre be it from our conscience that we should compell anie vnto our faith chapt 83. Quid vobis est cum regibus seculi quos nunquam Christianit as nisi inuidos sensit What haue you to doo with the Kings of the Worlde which the Christianitie hath neuer felt but enuious against it Chapter 92. Compare now the doctrine of our Brownists and their sayings with these former of the Donatists and see if there bee anie difference They say Princes are not to make Lawes for Church matters Princes are not to reforme the Church by their authoritie Princes are not to compell their subiects to the true worship of God by penalties If Princes pleasures are to be attended where is the persecution wee speake of None of the godlie Kings of Iudea durit compell anie to the couenant The people of Christs Kingdome are spontanes such as come of their owne free accord c. It were too long and tedious to set foorth all the outcries of the Donatists their glorying in suffering persecutions for the trueth their accusations against the pastors of Christs Churche and the Princes while they sought to restraine their furie the one by Gods word the other by lawes that they persecuted and therefore could not be the true Church which as they say is persecuted but neuer persecuteth reade the epistle of Parmenian of Petilian and of Cresconius The Brownists are not behinde them an intch in this matter but crie out as fast of Antichristian persecutors boasting of their patience and sufferings calling themselues the persecuted remnant the poore afflicted c. Aug. answereth those Donatists at large I will recite but a little Cum phreneticus medicum vexet medicus phreneticum liget aut ambo inuicem persequuntur aut si persecutio quae malo sit non est non vtiq persequitur medicus phreneticum sed phreneticus medicum When the man that is in phrensie dooth vex the phisitian and the phisitian dooth binde him that is in phrensie either both doo persecute each other or else if that bee not a persecution which is done to the euill then verelie the phisitian dooth not persecute the phrantick or mad man but the phrantick or mad man dooth persecute the phisitian Against Cresconius Booke 4. Chapter 51. his application is that the penall Lawes of the Princes were as the bands of the Phisitian to binde the Phrensie and furious outrage of the Donatists And whereas they boasted of patience and woulde compell none He answereth that because they bee not able to resist so manie nations which were Catholike they gloried of patience that they compelled none to their part Hee then addeth Isto modo miluus cum pullos rapere territus non potuerit co lūbum se nominet After the same sort the Puttocke when he is fraid and can not snatch away the chickens may name himselfe a Doue For he doth demaund of them what they haue not done which they were able When Iulian the Apostata being Emperour enuying the peace of Christ shewed them fauour and graunted to them Churches what slaughters they committed Likewise he sheweth in many places what reuell their circumcellions made which in companies walking with clubbes and staues did spoile and beate such as light into their handes vsing moreouer a sauage crueltie in putting vineger and lime into mens eies when they had beaten them And verely what is it which men of excéeding intemperate heate will not doe if it bee once in their power against such as they shall iudge to bee but as vile Idolaters and persecutors of Christes truth The impatient heate of most Brownistes is not vnknowē but when the Kites for feare can not snatch vp the Chickens must professe the mekenes of Doues as to say weare Christes poore afflicted seruants we be meeke and patient we beare the crosse Where it is taught that priuate men are authorised to deale and furie aboundeth which things are among the Brownistes who is able to expresse the tragedies that would ensue if power were not wanting in thē the Princes may not stoppe their course and who shall then resist The Donatists abusing the scriptures in their plentifull allegations and finding that their grosenesse was detected much by the skill of artes found fault that any thing should be scanned by the rules of Logike The Brownistes are euen with them if not beyond In his first booke against Cresconius Chap. 14 Augustine reporteth the wordes of that Donatist thus Vestros Episcopos laudas quod nobiscum velut dialecticis nolint habere sermonem Thou doest commend your Bishoppes that they refuse to haue speech or conference with vs as being Logicians He answereth at large in shewing what Logicke is and the worthie and necessarie vse thereof in discussing matters of religion Browne in the preface of his booke which hee saith sheweth the life and manners of Christians calleth them sophisticall diuines which deale by the rules of Logicke The Brownistes with whome I deale charge the students of the Vniuersities as trained vp in vaine and curious Artes. And what other cause shall euer be shewed of so barbarous an errour but that they would not haue their matters tried by the rules which make manifest which is truth and which is falsehoode Thus haue I briefely laide open that the whole Donatisme is maintained by the Brownistes and therefore I haue rightly termed them the Donatistes of England An answere to Master Greenewood touching read prayer MAster Greenewood in the preface of his booke dooth shew that the reasons spread abroade in writing against read praier were his which I did not knowe before now and therefore bee taketh vpon him the defence of them He would seeme to haue found out such a deapth of spirituall wisdome touching the holie exercise of prayer and so reprooueth the grosenes of this age that wee must esteeme him for the aboundance of spirit as an other Montanus For whereas hee seemeth to charge this age onelie as grosse in this poynt in verie deede he accuseth all ages all Churches and all the learned teachers that haue beene since the Apostles so that in the gifts of the spirite he excelleth all Hee saieth hee could yet neuer see it set downe which is the true praier that onelie pleaseth God It is a strange thing hee hath neuer heard that whosoeuer asketh in faith whether it be with prescript forme or otherwise it is the onelie true praier that pleaseth God Hee saieth I haue flien vpon him with bitternesse of spirite and