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prince_n	lord_n	son_n	wales_n	2,774	5	10.0959	5	false

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A09610	An aduertisement written to a secretarie of my L. Treasurers of Ingland, by an Inglishe intelligencer as he passed throughe Germanie towardes Italie Concerninge an other booke newly written in Latin, and published in diuerse languages and countreyes, against her Maiesties late proclamation, for searche and apprehension of seminary priestes, and their receauers, also of a letter vvritten by the L. Treasurer in defence of his gentrie, and nobility, intercepted, published, and answered by the papistes.; Elizabethae, Angliae Reginae, haeresim Calvinianam propugnantis saevissimum in Catholicos sui Regnis edictum. English. Abridgments	Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610.; Cresswell, Joseph, 1556-1623, attributed name.; Verstegan, Richard, ca. 1550-1640, attributed name.	1592 (1592)	STC 19885; ESTC S121696	41,247	68

saide she I know not vvhome it shoulde meane excepte it were M. Cecil who being out of credit at this present and neuer like to come in againe I hope shall neuer be able to bring that to passe This doe reporte such as haue hard it of the Countesse owne mouth and perhaps her sonne may yet remember it though he vvil not dare to speake it neither remembred M. Cecil at that tyme to vvrite himself Sitsilt to euacuate that prophecie as he mighte haue done had he knowen himself then to haue descended of that howse which now he pretendeth Moreouer this awnswerer asketh how yf it be trevv that Dauid Cecil my lordes grandfather descended of the nobles Princes of wales was so greatly in creditt with K. Henry the 7. as to be squyer for the body as well to him as to his sonne K. Henry the eighte hovv then is it lykely that he would keepe an Inne in Stāford as diuers vvorshipfull yet aliue or lately dead haue affirmed to haue layen in the same also how it is possible that his sonne the Treasures father named also Dauid Cecil if I forget not should be onely groome of the vvardrobe so plaine and meane a man as thousandes yet can testifie that he was how finally VVilliam Cecil their child now Treasurer could be so poore and meanely brought vp as to get parte of his mayntenance by ringing the morning bel at his beginning in S. Ihons colledge in Cambridge as commonly yet in that vniuersitie is reported And lastly this awnswerer taketh this for an euidente argumente of M. Cecills cogging and coseninge in this behalf that for diuers yeares he tooke himself farr different armes frō these vvhich of late he hath taken vp of the Sitsiltes for his former armes yf I be not deceaued vvere twoo Lyons eating of a wheaten sheafe betwene them as it is to be seene in diuers of his howses vvhere they are yet engrauen aftervvard seing the Armes of the Sitsiltes an auncient howse greatly decayed yf not extinguished to be six Lyons he hath taken them also to himself as it is here reported to terrifie the vvorld perhaps vvithal and to liken himself thereby to Princes that commonly haue Lyons in their armes where as a good fatt capon or a rosted pigg seemeth a fitter cognisaunce for an Inneholders grandchild as this man affirmeth seing that those things are more commonly to be founde in Innes and Osteries then are Lyons and thus much in effecte he avvnsvvereth to the contents of my L. Treasurers letter touching his gentry which this defender taketh either vvholy to be feigned or moste vainely to be delated by the old mans ambition After this he commeth to avvnsvvere those wordes of the proclamation vvherin is is saide that my Lord Cardinall and father Parsons do gather together with greate labours a multitude of dissolute yonge men who haue partly for lack of liuing and partly for crimes committed become fugitiues rebelles and traitours for whome there are in Rome and Spaine and other places certaine receptacles made to liue in there to be instructed in schoole points of sedition c. All vvhich vvordes this avvnsvverer examineth and firste vvhat difference there is in holy vvryt betvvene dispersers and gatherers and vvhat curse there is laide vpon the one blessing vpon the other by Gods ovvne mouth and that seing M. Cecill and other persecutours at the instigation of the devil do so attend to disperse their countreymen good reason some others should serue God in gatheringe and nourishing the dispersed for his cause Secondly he sheweth that these two men haue no need to vse greate labours in gathering together these youthes as the proclamation feigneth for that God himself gathereth them aboundantely from al partes of the Realme and the euidente truth of the Catholique faith stireth them to seeke meanes abreode for the saluation of their soules seing they can not be permitted to haue them at home and whereas many were letted before from comming out of Ingland for that they knew not where to goe to be receaued mayntayned and instructed now being informed thereof by this indiscrete proclamation of M. Cecils penning which admonis heth all men that besydes the former colledges and Seminaries in France and Rome there are other also newly erected in Spaine many haue resolued to come ouer which otherwise had stayed in Ingland so them selues at theire comming haue professed and the King of Spayne among other Princes hauing seene so barbarous an edicte and considered the conscienceles causes of their distresses hath greatly enlarged his fauours towardes the saide Inglishe Seminaries in his dominions both by his personall visiting of that in validolid and larger allowance tovvardes the mayntenance of the same and thus doeth M. Cecil profit by his new diuises Thirdly he sheweth that these students come not out of Ingland neither for lacke of liuing nor for crimes committed as the proclamation moste vnjustly doth slaunder them Not for the firste for that they being commonly gentlemen or vvealthie peoples children and as good witts as any lefte behynd them they might casely haue preserrmente yf they vvould apply themselues to the protestant proceedings and here he sheweth at large the great multitude of gentlemens sonnes vvhich leauing their inheritances and other hopes of vvorldly possibilities at home do come ouer dayly to study and be made priests vvith infinite desire to returne againe quickly to Ingland vvhere priesthoode is more hated infamed and pursued then any cryme or vvickednes in the vvorld and that no such desire vvas seene in gentry and nobilitie to priesthood in Catholique tyme vvhen is vvas honorable and commodious to be a prieste vvhich muste needes procede of Gods owne hande and that there are more gentlemen this day in the Inglishe Seminaries of France Rome Spaine then in all the Clergy of Ingland tvvise told to vvhich no gentleman commonly will affoord his sonne to be a Minister and much lesse his daughter to be a Ministers vvyf vvith diuers examples of the basenes of their chiefe Prelates as among others of Pierse Cooper Archbisshop Bisshop of yorke and winchester both borne at Oxford as this felow saith the one the sonne of a labourer and the other of a cobler and diuers others like vnto them vvhich yet M. Cecil toucheth not with basenes nor that they went to their ministerie for neede And that these students come not ouer for crymes committed he saith is much more plaine by the desire the Magistrates of Ingland haue to receaue them backe againe with all grace and fauor yf they vvould returne and he noteth for a very markable thing that in these twentie yeares vvherein aboue a hundred of the Seminaries haue bin put to death publiquely and vvillingly for their religion and many hundreds haue liued in Ingland in common attire of other men the more thereby to dissemble their calling neuer yet any one of them in so many

the same of himself and that for all this men may not cease to speake the truth for that Christe did not omit to tell the Scribes and Pharisees of their errours and wickednes thoughe he knew that they were obdurate therin would not cease to shedd his bloud for the same so also he surceased not to forewarne ludas of his perdition albeit he knew it would little auayle him and generally when he sent both prophets and other good men to reprehend both by worde and writings the wicked Kings and Queenes of lurie and other countreys and common wealths as Moab Idumea Egypte and the like that persecuted his seruants he sent them not with any hope for the moste parte that they would leaue or amend their course thereby but rather be worse in the sending of Moyses and Aaron to Pharao it is wonderfull to cōsider that on the one side God woulde haue him warned of his ruyne on the other syde he saide in plaine wordes that he would obdurate or harden his harte so as he should not heare the good councell geuen him but rather waxe more fierce thereby and run on headling to his owne destruction for that there are some kinde of people as the Prophete saith which haue made a league and contractewith death so as nothinge will make them to auoyde the same which this later awnswerer sheweth principally to be fulfilled in wicked and ambitious gouernours who laying commonly all conscience aside being tyed to the prosecution of their euill actions once begunne with the forcible chaynes of honor credite riches authoritie envy malice ambition haue no other way ordinarily of retreate but when Gods hand entreth and breaketh downe all and then al falleth together like old muddy walles with losse of al that was moste deare vnto them in this life and of that also that shoulde haue bin for the life to come And finally to the laste clause he awnswereth that all forayne Kingdomes and states are so farre of from allowing or iustifying the scope of this desperate Inglish course that the very protestante Princes and Councellors that otherwise are no enemyes to Ingland do cry out of the same The reste that are aduersaries do laugh in their sleeues to see Inglād ruine it self on the rocks the sandes as is dothe by this course which muste needes be er lōg their totall destructiō only the poore Catholiques which rather I should call happy saith he are those that abide the brunte for the presente who are sent to heauen more hastely then otherwise they would perchance haue walked of themselues and others are inforced to merite more by sufferinge then they had purposed which is al the hurte they receaue for as for their seede it shall remaine for euer peccator videbit irascetur dentibus suis fremet tabescet In the second parte of my L. Letter he defendeth somewhat the gentry of three persons touched before in the firste Inglishe awnswere to vvit my L. of Leicester Sir Nicolas Bacon and his owne and for the firste he saith that Leicesters great grādfather whome many men reporte to haue bin a carpenter was no lesse then a lord Dudleys sonne wherewith this awnswerer saith he vvil not greatly trouble himself at this present thoughe this new genealogie seeme strāg not credible to many Inglishe mens eares of moste knowledge experience that liue abwade and neuer heard of the same before For the second his L. saith no more but that albeit Bacons father were no man of liuing yet was he accounted so wealthy as he lefte to two of his sonnes stocks of mony to be honeste marchants and to the third which vvas afterward L. keeper mayntenance for his study in Grayes Inne al vvhich supposed to be trew saith this awnswerer it is nothing against that vvhich before hath bin spoken of him To the third vvhich is himself my L. Treasurer saith much more for his gentrie affirming that his howse to wit the Cecills of Stamford doe come of the auncient howse of the Sit siltes of wales and are descended from the reigne of the conquerour haue matched come of many noble howses both of Ingland and wales yea of the Princes of wales for these are my L. owne wordes in his fore said letter aud that his L. grandfather Dauid Cecil came out of Brytany as a sergeuit at armes first with King Henry the seuenth and was by the saide King placed at Samford and was Steward of his mothers howse the Countesse of Richmond and after was squyer for the body both to King Henry the 7. and also to King Henry the eight hitherto is my L. Treasures ovvne allegation for this gentry and nobility To all vvhich this awnswerer replieth that so diligent a displaying of genealogies by his owne hand vvriting at this instant when he handleth the match of his grandchild with Arbella implieth a further sequel them euery man doth looke into especially vvhere he addeth that his howse is descended of the very old Princes of wales themselues Secondly he taketh vpon him to shew that al this flourish or at leaste wise the more part thereof is but an ambitious fiction of M. Cecill himself and very ridiculous to all Inglish of the discreeter sort for that he saith that many yet remēber when M. Cecil for diuers yeares after his comming to creditt went about to deriue his name of Cecil frō Cecilius the Romaine name whereof theire vvere diuers but especially that famous rich man named Caecilius Claudius vvho as Plinius writeth after greate losses receaued in the ciuil warres lefte notwithstanding in his testament aboue foure thousand slaues and aboue three thousand yoke of oxen and aboue two hundred and fifty thowsand of other catell besydes infinite quantitie of ready mony vnto whome this awnswerer upposeth that our M. Cecil at that tyme desired to be like as well in vvealth as in name and for that he imagined that the progenye of those Cecils had remayned in Ingland euen from the Romaines tyme and that his howse vvas descended of the same He write himself as he doeth now also in this his letter Cecil with two c. c. and after the first of them an E which is far different in antographie frō Sitsilt vvhich himself writeth with tvvo s. s. twoo T. T. and tvvo I. I. By occasion also of this this defender telleth a story how that in Q. Maryes tyme when M. Cecil had deceaued Sir VVilliam Peter and had made him beleeue he was an earnest papiste and had persuaded him to offer the resignation of his office of Secretariship vnto him as before hath bin touched the old countesse of huntingtō mother to the earle that now liueth though far differēt from him in Religion told the Queene and maydes of honor in the courte that she had hard an old prophecie that one who had two c. c. in his name should be the destruction of Ingland which thinge