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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
B08822	A confutation of some pretended reasons for His Majesty's issuing a general pardon to the rebels of Ireland, that will submit: without exemption of the considerable and influencing men among them. In answer (as alledg'd) to the late declaration, fram'd by the English nobility, and gentry of Ireland.		1689 (1689)	Wing C5811A; ESTC R174144	3,770	2

A CONFUTATION OF Some pretended Reasons for His MAJESTY's Issuing a General Pardon to the Rebels of Ireland that will submit without Exemption of the Considerable and Influencing Men among them In Answer as alledg'd to the late Declaration fram'd by the English Nobility and Gentry of Ireland LICENS'D Sept. 5. 1689. J. FRASER I Shall not make Reflections upon the Author more than to affirm That the apparent insufficiency of his pretended Reasons seem to make him one of the late King James's Counsellors who are fam'd for nothing but Impudence and _____ He begins with the Mischief that would attend His Majesty's Forces in Ireland by lying in the Fields burning the Country murdering the Protestants now in the hands of the Natives increasing and continuing a constant Charge to England all which he says would be the consequence of excepting the most considerable Men and the Reasons that he gives are That these great Men will stifle the King's Declaration of Pardon or the Clergy will baffle the Credit of it Now to use the late Duke of Ormond's Character of an Irish-man Let him alone said that great and good Man and he will spoil his own business is what we shall find true if we examine the several parts of this Argument For First he tells us That the considerable Men would stifle and keep the Pardon from the rest If this were true he needed not to have proceeded any further but he can hardly trust himself so much as to express this Argument before he flies to another as improbable as the former and that is The Clergy will blast and baffle the Credit of the Declaration Had any but an Irish understanding undertook this assertion he would not have insisted upon two Points so apparently irrational and inconclusive that every Man of Ireland can prove to be notoriously false and at the same time have omitted that which seems to be considerable viz. That the Grandees of the Irish have such an Influence over the Commonalty and they such a Love for their Lords that nothing could disengage them from their Interests but that they would either have a General Pardon or else Universally Suffer But this it seems he thought not of but grants that if they knew of the Pardon unless the Clergy baffled the Credit of it there was a probability of their submission Now to shew the palpable weakness of this Argument Can any imagine that when almost half of Ireland is in the Possession of His present Majesty the Vulgar Irish establish'd there in the same Peace and Security they enjoy'd before the Rebellion that they will not Communicate this to their Friends and Relations in other Parts of the Kingdom and give them assurance of the same Pardon which has been so happily vouchsafed to themselves They that best understand the disposition of the Irish know them to be the most inquisitive People in the World. A Fellow under a Ditch looking to his Cows will ask every one he meets What News And 't is impossible to keep publick Transactions from being divulg'd to the Populace when the Irish will pass undiscovered through the Kingdom This I think puts their being acquainted with the Pardon out of doubt and for that of their Clergies baffling the Credit of it that is as easily answered for persuasions against matter of Fact will take no place When a considerable part of the Kingdom do actually enjoy the full benefit of the Pardon who will believe a Man that only confidently affirms they will not So far is this from a Question that the Irish have not the least occasion of suspicion because they never failed of an Inviolable performance of Articles from the English I think there needs no Reply to all the Direful effects he mentions as consequential to their standing out because by his own Concession it seems they will submit if they hear of and believe the Pardon And I presume 't is plainly prov'd that they will do both His second Head is allowed No doubt but the Irish will lay down Arms and consequently the Country will be preserv'd and immediately put into His Majesty's hands His Third Paragraph as to what of it relates to the Protestants of Ireland living upon the Charity of England the ordinary sort 't is true have done so but not a Gentleman of an Estate has receiv'd any thing The rest of it needs no answer as to what is to come but something may be said of what is past the Protestants of Ireland have in a great measure undergone what he presages of the future and therefore think they have reason to hope His Majesty will Graciously vouchsafe them some reparation out of the Estates of the most notorious Rebels which can be interpreted no otherwise than as an Act of Justice to the present Sufferers and as well as a determent to the Natives not to commit the like Barbarity for the future which if conniv'd with in this Juncture will animate them to play the same Game at the next Opportunity The Fourth is allowed and no fear of the Rebels doing any thing in their power to oblige the English They are already cloy'd with King James's Brass Sixpences and have made a sufficient experiment of the Success of the Protestant Arms who having so destroyed the flower of their Forces when but an handful of Men what can they expect now from so Great a Captain as Duke Schomberg at the Head of a Royal Army In his Fifth Reason the Irish man appears bare-fac'd for none but such would presume to meddle with the Secrets of Kings he tells us of the Kings justifying himself to his Foreign Roman Catholick Allies that it is not for Religion he prosecutes the War c. This Politician wants good Manners and should be taught that our King is the greatest Monarch of Europe and not thought it might be more modestly express'd accountable to Allies especially in Matters of Religion which however this Spark undertakes to acquaint the World that 't is none of His Majesties Business yet we must crave leave to diffent from his ipse dixit and both to hope and believe the contrary and that in respect of Religion as well as Property he hazarded his Sacred Person for the purchasing the unspeakable Priviledges we now enjoy as well in Religions as Civil Rights He Closes his Politicks with two Observations one is upon the Reasons given for excluding some from Pardon though he is so wise as to mention more of them But he is Positive in his Opinion that if God put us in Possession of Ireland we have greater security than ever being safe from a Popish King I hope we are though I suppose he does neither wish nor believe it But whatever Prospect of security we have of not being re-inslaved by a Popish King yet are we not free from Popish Pretenders Where is this Proselites beloved Sham Prince of Wales and his Bloody Protector the French King Is it not possible for them upon any

Revolution either Forreign or Domestick to send when we are least aware of it Arms and Assistance to cut off the Protestants when not a Man of these great Rebels are disabled from Re-acting the former Tragedies Nay they are by so much in the better capacity than ever by how much they are Possessors of the Treasure and Riches of the Protestants He closeth this Paragraph like his Brothe Teague that swears if he had Noting he would give you Someting so this Blade has been emptying his Budget to prove that nothing will shorten the War but by pardoning all the Grandees and yet at last he tells you that you shall be satisfy'd with enough that will forfeit their Estates and never accept of the Indemnity he might then have saved his labour in his Learned Argument for the number excepted is but Seventy odd and they such Monsters that if any in Ireland should stand out we may suppose it to be them but I cannot grant him so much Carriage in any of his Countreymen as to refuse Pardon we know them to be so far from that that an Irish-man will twist a Gad to hang his Father so that he may have the favour of being hang'd last And now comes the Blade to that which we may justly call Libellous in offering that to the English Nobility and Gentry of Ireland which I fear he never had himself a Consideration and that is whether they can propose any thing that will encrease the charge and danger of England since the work is to be effected by English Lives and Purses and that they that prescribe these hazardous and chargeable methods do not lay their Fingers to the Work. This I say is a mischievous and false Insinuation and gives the Lye to the Grand Council of the Nation The Gentlemen of Ireland have always and still do propose that which may soonest and most scecurely establish that Kingdom in the Hands and Government of the English which they believe can never be effected without making Examples of some few tho not one of ten thousand They own their Preservation under God from the King and English of England but he asserts a falshood which we appeal to the Honourable House of Commons to justifie us against in affirming that we will not so much as lay our Finger to that Burthen we pull upon the Lives of the English in the reduction of Ireland The House of Commons received the Address of the Gentlemen of Ireland praying to be recommended to his Majesty for that Service and that not done in a general manner but the name of every individual person return'd his Majesty was pleas'd to employ all he could find room for since that twice before the King and Counsel they have offered their Service to go in the Head of the Army against the Irish Rebels many are gone Voluntiers and those that are left would according to their several Circumstances do the same had they conveniencies to carry them It is strange confidence that in the Face of the King and Parliament he should assume to print such a notorious untruth as that the Nobility and Gentry of Ireland will not lay their Finger to the War they engage England in I have thus briefly shewn the Folly and rashness of this Irish Minister of States pretended Reasons for a General Pardon to the Irish not excluding Seventy Persons as Victims for more Thousands of Protestants they have ruin'd I might say much more but that is done to my hand in a Letter call'd the Mantle thrown off or the Irishman dissected which bears date before these Reasons set forth by Teague who I presume was angry for taking off his Mantle and would cover himself with the Fig-Leaves of an unwarrantable and irrational Discourse London Printed for Ric. Chiswell at the Rose and Crown in St. Paul's Church-Yard MDCLXXXIX