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A48054 A letter from Duke Schomberge's camp, giving an account of the condition of the English and Irish army, and a true account of all the papists in Ireland their number and estates, with reasons for declaring them forfeited, and the several parties amongst them with all the material circumstances that relate to that kingdom : from the camp at Dundalke, November 4, 1689. 1689 (1689) Wing L1461; ESTC R9296 6,671 11

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their Estates by Charles the Ild's Court of Claims they were as bloody Rebels as the former such as the Marquess of Antrim c. yet had better luck for these were rewarded with better Estates for their Murder 's than they lost by their Rebellion And good reason if they were commission'd to that Villany by Charles the First as they alledge and Charles the Second seemed to countenance in the case of that Marquess who was proved by many credible Witnesses to have been in the first contrivance of the Rebellion in 1641 and to have perpetrated many horrid Murders yet that King commanded his Estate to be restored giving for reason that he acted nothing in that matter but by Commission from his Father Charles the Martyr and by order of his Mother pursuant to the Royal Commands she received from his Father Of eight millions of Acres profitable Land in Ireland these Popish Proprietors possess about three millions or a little more than one third of the whole they are neither persons of Conduct nor Interest 't is certain they have little influence on the common people for by their Oppressions and Exactions they have so far lo●● their hearts that where Protestant Landlords will receive them they will not live under those of their own Nation and Religion 'T is not there as here in England where Tenants have Leases for Lives long Terms of years or such Tenures as lays them under many tyes of Interest and Obligation to venture for or be swayed by their Landlords but the quite contrary for the Popish Landlords sett their Lands but from year to year that they may the oftner rack their poor Tenants and hence it is that tho' those people live in the most plentiful Countrey in the world yet they feed almost wholly upon Milk and Potatoes only now and then they have a little Barley or Oaten-bread This party are as deeply concerned in the Rebellion dispoiling and plunder of the Protestants as the former should any of these submit it will be but singly or with very few probably with consent of the rest that they may save their Estates preserve an Interest for the Papists in future that they may give private Intelligences to their brethren that England may be at the whole Expense of the War the dispoiled Protestants of Ireland be left without reprize for their Losses and his Majesty less capable to prosecute the War against France should these be pardoned they will be in a better Condition for a future Rebellion than yet they have been being disciplin'd and now inriched with the spoils of the English The only party that remains to be spoken of is the Husbandman and Labourer which constitutes the body of that people and are Nineteen parts of Twenty of the Papists in Ireland For the whole of them Men Women and Children are but one Million of which we suppose 40 or 50000 in Arms unfit to be pardoned or transported except to the East-Indies and that these should perish in their Rebellion and that His Majesty and the wisdom of the Parliament think good to spare such of the common people as are not guilty of Murder the body of that people will remain intire tho' all the former parties should be destroy'd These to say the truth of them are least dangerous being in themselves a well-natur'd people and may by easy methods be made useful if freed from their Clergy and great men the generality of them speak or understand English which the twentieth man did not in 1641. They willingly yield their Children for Servants to Protestants and are content they become such their Clergy have of late been so extreamly burthensom to them that they are more than ever dispos'd to admit a Reformation and to part with them and their Irish Landlords and indeed such is the Ascendant that the Priests have over the Consciences of that bigotted people that it will be difficult and very chargeable if not impossible whilest these remain amongst them to keep them from rebellion on the least Forreign incouragement as 130 years sad experience verifies beyond Contradiction They naturally love Learning for their Children and were there Free Schools set up to instruct them they would without compulsion insensibly become Protestants For which great and good works the present Rebellion and their Reduction will furnish their Majesties with a fit Opportunity All that this part of that Nation can expect or desire is Pardon and Indempnity which His Majesty and both Houses of Parliament may extend as they think fit but if any of the former parties be comprehended with them it will render them dangerous and formidable to the English there Thus I have set down the several Parties and Interests of the Papists in Ireland whereby it plainly appears that there is danger in sparing any of them tho' least according to my sence in taking the Pesants or in that Countrey language the Skulloges into Protection as for the Clergy Lawyers and those who lost their Estates in 1641. we have no bait for them if they must live they would be least mischievous in the East-Indies were they charmed at present these Cockatrices would in a little time bring forth Scorpions which is true also of their landed men The Common Souldiers are less mischievous in open hostility than under our Protection their Nobility and Gentry who possess about one third of that Kingdom are as deep in guilt and rebellion as the rest have little influence on the other parties the receiving them to mercy will not shorten the War but give heads to and strengthen the Papists for the future Subject us to innumerable mischiefs impoverish England by bearing the charge of the War at present and keeping up a numerous standing Army in future to keep these from rebelling all which by their Forfeitures may be prevented the despoiled Protestants in part reprized for their Losses and His Majesty reimbursed which money imployed against France would expedite the bringing down of that Christian Turk Let it not be forgotten that King James and the supposititious Prince of Wales pretend Title to the Crown And that both their Titles have been recognized by Act of Parliament in Ireland That not only the Papists in these three Kingdoms but a numerous party that declare for Passive Obedience and Non-resistance long for and are industriously endeavouring his Restauration and the destruction of the Protestant Interest the pardoning the Estated Papists in Ireland will strengthen and incourage these furnish the French King with the means ●o distract us at pleasure intail dangers on posterity discourage the planting of that Kingdom for the Protestants whose houses and Estates are ruined will not in that case repair them because they know that the pardoning of one Rebellion in Ireland is alwaies the preludium to another For Cambden truly observes that by long use it was grown a mischievous Custom in Ireland That Rebels might with part of the money they got by Pillage and Plunder of