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A48365 A reply to Sr. Thomas Manwaring's answer to my two books. Written by Sr. Peter Leycester, Baronet, anno Domini, 1675. The second reply. Together with the case of Amicia truly stated Leycester, Peter, Sir, 1614-1678. 1676 (1676) Wing L1944; ESTC R213614 31,564 110

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