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A96259	The case of the Irish Protestants in relation to recognising, or swearing allegiance to, and praying for King William and Queen Mary, stated and resolved.	Wettenhall, Edward, 1636-1713.	1691 (1691)	Wing W1490A; ESTC R229883	19,849	30

confest what a most zealous and constant adherent of King James's the same too if I mistake not more than once in great Power and Trust under him has not doubted to publish to the World The business of the Prince of Wales has been so carried as if those whom it most concerns that it should be true had not had a mind it should be believed or words to that effect for I have not the Paper by me 't is intitled Englands Crisis It is to me an ungrateful task to give such Descant or Illustration to this ingenuous Acknowledgment as the Case requires but instead thereof I must be so faithful to my own sense as to add That the Persons most concerned for the Legitimacy of that Child have now so farther managed the matter that I see not how its Legitimacy is possible ever to be made out to the Publick Satisfaction of these Nations Wherefore in my Apprehension it must remain a doubt till the day shall come that shall open all things In the mean time being there is the same Reason of things not in being and of things not apparent no Man can forfeit his Allegiance for not being sollicitous for the preservation of this Child especially now it is removed out of the Sphere of our Defence as well as Knowledge As to any other part of Allegiance imaginable in the present Juncture lawful or possible it would be considered in special what the Particulars are Our Counsel would never be taken and we have been declared again and again not to be trusted yea and notwithstanding the utmost fidelity of many of us reviled and treated as such As to our Prayers what it is not lawful for us to endeavor it is not lawful for us to pray for But it has been shewn King James has made it unlawful for us to defend him in his Possession and Exercise of his Regal Power And to bring him back thereto as far as human Prudence I think can see were but to bring our Religion and its Professors under the same Yoke Opressions and danger of Extinction under which we so lately groaned therefore this it is unlawful to pray for As far as we may lawfully pray for him we own we do nor is it inconsistent with the Prayers required of us for King William and Queen Mary Amongst those who Err and are Deceived amongst Our Enemies Persecutors and Slanderers whom we beseech God to have mercy on to forgive them and turn their Hearts by way of Eminency we tacitly comprise our late King In secret also perhaps by name we further pray That God would take from him all Ignorance hardness of Heart and contempt of his Word and to bring him home to Christ's Flock that he may be saved amongst the remnant of the true Israelites To do this for him by Name in publick would be looked upon as Affront and publick Reproach To do it in secret as it is Prudent Charity so it is a Loyalty we disown not Thus Samuel mourned for Saul even when God had rejected him and it repented the Lord that he had made him King And beyond what I have thus openly and freely specified I acknowledge I see not any part of Loyalty and Devotion left lawful or possible to us Irish Protestants in behalf of King James II. except any would have added a sublime degree of Civil Honor the saluting or serving him upon the Knee or such like of which together with a Revenue ample enough to maintain a Court I think there ought to be no dispute but none of these interfere with the Recognition required X. Now to return from Objections and to proceed with what was above propounded Lastly it is to be said for the Protestants who now are at least who all along these Troubles remained in Ireland they are as fully and directly Released from this Oath at least from that part of Allegiance Defending King James by force of Arms as Reason Equity or even Express Law can be well conceived to release them In all Civil Othas if the Power imposing the Oath and to whom the Oath is made shall release the Obligees such Obligees are discharged of their Oath and reduced to their first Liberty Now I say we the People before specified were three ways released either from the whole Oath or at least from this part of it which some expect we should own our selves bound to of fighting for King James II. First the whole Oath of Allegiance Summer was twelve-month by King and Parliament a Parliament at least whose Authority and Legitimacy our Adversaries will not impeach was in this Kingdom by express Statute repealed under the Name if my memory fail not of the New Oath of Allegiance And whereas some Peers upon Reasons which are not needful here to be inserted stood against the Repeal of it and one excepted against that style The New Oath of Allegiance the Answer was returned by them who ruled assigning the Reign in which that Oath of Allegiance was made a point wherein the Objector was not at all ignorant as I take it but I am sure was born some Ages at least a long Age and upwards since that Reign and so never took any elder and I am as confident never any Newer or Later Oath of Allegiance to King James Wherefore being by this Repeal released from that Oath of Allegiance and having never taken any other such Irish Protestants as I speak of are under no Oath of Allegiance to King James the Second and that through his own and his Dear Roman Catholick Parliaments Act. Which being I think the only Service they did us we ought not but with thanks to acknowledge and record it to Posterity tho what Service thereby they did THEIR King as appropriating him to themselves they used to call him we must leave him and them together at their leisure to consider Again we Irish Protestants were not only disarmed as abovesaid but by iterated Proclamations interdicted to have any kind of Arms in our Houses tho merely for the Defence of them from Thieves and Robbers and that under divers Forfeitures which in each later Proclamation were still made severer and in the end as I remember the Penalty was no less than being proceeded against as Traitors How far these Proclamations were executed upon many innocent persons in City and in Country by such who coming into our Houses to search for Arms could easily find what themselves had hid I have no mind to speak But certainly King James's forbidding us so strictly to wear or have Arms was on his part a Discharge to us from the use of them tho in his Defence For what it was Treason for us to Have how could it be Allegiance or Duty for us to Vse Lastly it must not be omitted here what is with the greatest Assurance reported by Multitudes even of our Adversaries that upon the late Defeat at the Boyn King James himself told his Irish Commanders then about him He

THE CASE OF THE Irish Protestants In Relation to RECOGNISING OR Swearing ALLEGIANCE to And PRAYING for King WILLIAM and Queen MARY Stated and Resolved LONDON Printed for Robert Clavel and are to be Sold by John North Bookseller in Dublin M DC XC I. Advertisement THE following Paper contains the Result of a certain Persons Thoughts sometime since when he being cut off from the usual means of consulting with others could only enter into a Consultation with himself for resolving his own Conscience It is no mans sin simply to doubt but it is every mans business to endeavor his own Satisfaction and 't is some mens Duty to satisfie others besides themselves Of this number because the Author took himself to be he communicated these his Thoughts to such for whom he was concern'd and 't is at their Promotion if they now go further In his Arguing he chose for Satisfaction to proceed rather on Foundations of Divinity than Policy and Law little meddling with those Grounds on which since the Writing hereof he finds abler Heads most to build He is very content to leave each Man to his own Province and only desires he may not be censured as too ignorant for keeping so close within what he apprehends to be his It is indeed herein he finds most solid Content Resolution and Repose of Mind God make all of us Sincere Humble Satisfied and if not Vnanimous yet at least Peaceable and Quiet Octob. 27. 1690. THE CASE OF THE IRISH PROTESTANTS In Relation to RECOGNISING King WILLIAM and Queen MARY STATED and RESOLVED I. FOR the due Stating and so more satisfactory Resolving this our Case it will be necessary to consider in the beginning what Recognition of these Princes or of their Sovereignty is either expresly or by consequence required of us and then what Barrs there lie in Conscience to our making such Recognition II THERE can be no doubt but it is intended that we should receive and submit to King William and Queen Mary as perfectly and intirely as ever by Law we submitted to or owned any of our late Sovereigns And I must add we Protestants especially in Ireland have all the Reason in the World even from our own Interest to do it with more Zeal and Passion than we did to either of their immediate Predecessors But all the Recognition which as far as yet to me appears is expresly required from any is only to take an Oath of Fidelity to them and to pray for them as King and Queen and perhaps as our Deliverers from Oppression Now that Oath as I am informed is pen'd in a shorter easier and milder Form than any of our Oaths of Allegiance in the Reigns of our former Kings Thus it is said to run I do swear to bear Faith and true Allegiance to King William and Queen Mary The very penning of this Oath shews the Tenderness Moderation and Temper of these great Princes For there is nothing therein Dogmatical if I may use that Term of which Nature was the greater part and most of the Paragraphs of the former Oath but only a Sacred Promise of what is needful Faith and true Allegiance Which tho I say it be most certainly intended it should be firm and plenary and according to the Intention of the Imposer must every Oath be understood by them that take it else there is Fallacy and Equivocation therein yet as to each Man 's secret Sentiments there is by these indefinite Terms much left to the Judgment and Conscience of every individual Subject what the particulars of that Faith and true Allegiance are A Temper not observed in the penning the former Oaths of Allegiance or Supremacy III. THE Barrs in Conscience which any I think can pretend to against such Recognition are Oaths formerly taken and a Recognition made of James II. who is yet alive and the Bond with which Holy Scriptures tie all Oaths upon our Consciences and Practice yea tho somewhat unadvisedly and prejudicially made even to our own Hurt and Damage The Oaths I think which can stick upon any are chiefly Two The Oath of Allegiance and of Supremacy Yet there is also if I mistake not besides these what some called the Short Oath Not to take up Arms against the King or any Commissioned by him imposed on the Members of most Corporations in this Kingdom as I have been informed of late days However there is a Declaration in these Words subscribed and publickly read or recognised In Sacris by all the Conforming Clergy of the three Kingdoms in so solemn a manner that it was even upon them equivalent to a most solemn Oath The Recognition is that made in the late pretended Irish Parliament May 7. 1689 and past in form of an Act penned I confess with all the Weight and Emphasis which I think either proper or improper Language could put into it Now that the Resolutions of all Doubts arising from any of these may be as distinct as the Brevity designed will permit we will consider each severally And if in the end it appear that in our present Circumstances there lies no Obligation upon us to James II. from any of these Ties then we may with safe Conscience perform what is required IV. AND first for the Oath of Allegiance This Oath was lawful and wholesome enough and in former Reigns even to Protestants possible to be kept and also Obligatory But there are three things which wholly take off our being obliged by it to King James First he the said King James II. has made it to us unlawful Secondly God and King James have made it at present impossible Thirdly we in Ireland are formally released from it perhaps by Law I am sure in Reason and Equity Now if any one of these three be true the Obligation thereof to King James is discharged much more if all V. FIRST I say King James II. has made it to us who are Protestants unlawful to pay him such Allegiance as was due to his Predecessors and would have been due to him by virtue of that Oath had he trod in his Predecessors Steps His Predecessors since the framing this Form of Oath went not about to subject the Imperial Crown and Dignity of the three Kingdoms as King James has done especially that of Ireland with a Witness to the Power of any Foreign Prince or Potentate no not of the Pope himself Which for a Subject to do for of Princes we will not speak is unlawful and Treason by our Laws We cannot therefore with all our might assist and defend such a King which yet in the Oath of Allegiance we seem to have sworn to do because by this assistance we are guilty of contributing to the highest Breach of our Laws we commit Treason against the Crown And there being no Accessories in Treason I will not say in what danger we should be in a Protestant Successors Reign But there is more yet in the Case It is unlawful by the Law of God

used us But this is in our favor For it appears hereby those who were their Conquerors were our Deliverers and if it be lawful in this case for the Irish to accept of Terms 't is our duty to be thankful to God that there are those now come who can give Terms both to them and us This Plea sufficiently justifies us Irish Protestants against any possible Imputation to us from our Irish Adversaries in this behalf And as to our English Friends we will suppose them more sensible of our Condition than that before them we ought to make Apologies when in our Consciences we want none But as to the Irish let me tell them farther no imaginary freedom of theirs can now in Conscience exempt them from this Subjection The People of the Jews the Seed of Abraham were never in bondage to any as free born a People certainly as Irish Men can be yet when God put them under the Yoke of Nebuchadnazzar his command by the Prophet encouraged too by a blessing annext is serve the King of Babylon and Live The same which God speaks now by the Voice of his Providence to the Natives of this Kingdom in as much as he has left nothing else possible to them They must therefore be subject not only for Wrath but Conscience sake and for Men to swear to do what is their duty to do cannot certainly be unlawful VIII FURTHER not only God but even King James II. has made it impossible to his Protestant Subjects to keep the Oath of Allegiance to him For that Oath expresly as well as another ordinarily taken by many of us I mean the Oath of Supremacy obliges all who have taken it not only to defend to the uttermost of their power His Majesties Person Heirs and Successors but both His and Their Crown and Dignity Which Crown and Dignity signifie as the Oath of Supremacy and so the Law interprets those Terms all Jurisdictions Preeminences and Authorities granted or belonging to the Kings Highness his Heirs or Successors or united and annexed to the Imperial Crown of this Realm that is of England The Crown of England saith our Law is Imperial and subject to no Prince on Earth but only unto God If therefore a Prince will subject his Crown and so his People to a Foreign Power and especially to that Power which has now these several Ages incessantly and indefatigably by all means within its Sphere studied and endeavor'd the Ruin of them and the Extirpation of their Religion I mean to the Pope of Rome it becomes impossible for the Subjects of such a King at once or together to the uttermost of their power to defend His Person and His Heirs and Successors His and Their Crown and Dignity The Kingdom of England of which by Law and Prescription Ireland is a Branch and dependent has ever been avowed and to this day is a Free Kingdom But how Tributary and enslaved it would become by being again subjected to the Papacy I list not to aggravate yet cannot but in short take notice that the Heir by the Subjects defending and maintaining such a King Possessor loseth of his Power and Rights and so doth the Crown of its Dignity Preeminence and Authority In such case therefore a Man can no more keep this Oath than he can reconcile Contradictions which even the Roman Catholick Divines ordinarily Teach is not in the power of Omnipotence And such is the Case between James II. and all the Protestants of these Three Kingdoms But it was worse with the Poor Irish Protestants than with the rest of the People of any of his Majesties Dominions We though most of us English-men were not only subjected to Roman Catholicks but to the most inveterate of them Irish Roman Catholicks Enemies to us on other scores besides our Religion contrary to the express Laws of both Kingdoms in this behalf contrary to the manifest Interest of the Heir contrary to the Honor and Dignity of the Crown of England from which as far as an Act of an Irish Parliament could do the feat this Kingdom of Ireland was by Statute solemnly past in that their Parliament above mentioned in effect actually separated and disunited The Crown of England was hereby to lose the Kingdom of Ireland a very considerable Emolument certainly as well as Honor and Jurisdiction These things are notorious matter of Fact and so publickly manifest that they cannot be denied I speak not of being subjected to a French Government and Governors of our being enforced to supplicate many times for our Liberties and Lives I am sure for the supports of our Lives the eating the Bread and wearing the poor Clothes which of our own were left us and some of us directly for our Lives even in Cases wherein we were Offenders against no Law of God or of Man Military or Civil I speak not I say of our being necessitated thus to supplicate to Governors of a Foreign Nation and Language who could not understand us when addressing to them in our own Speech and would not understand our Interpreters in theirs I speak not of Pacts and Sales of which great Evidence as to this Kingdom of Ireland or a great part of it might be given nor of other like or more odious things as designedly avoiding all that might exasperate some Men or together immoderately aggravate others Guilt as well as our Oppressions But it is hereby as clear as the Sun that if there could be degrees in natural Impossibilities there lay the highest natural Impossibility on all but especially the Irish Protestants in the Circumstances they were in to keep this Oath and that not by any fault of their own for they were cast into this impossibility by the Prince to whom by that Oath Allegiance was or was to have been due Now forasmuch as no one can be bound to that which is impossible of all Men the Irish Protestants stand not by the Oath of Allegiance bound to defend the Person of James II. in his or their present Circumstances IX IF it should be said by any These Pleas can only discharge Subjects of so much Allegiance as can be proved unlawful or impossible but they shall still stand obliged to what is lawful and possible I allow it for truth and together Avow that notwithstanding our Performance of what either or both the fore-mentioned Branches of Recognition by the present King and Queen required of us do contain We both may and I doubt not all considerative conscientious Persons within these Kingdoms Do bear and pay all lawful parts or Instances of Duty to our late King And principally what the Article of King John's Magna Charta in such Case as this exacts The Safety of the Persons of the King and Queen and of their Children we look upon as most religiously inviolable None of us would attempt or consent to any attempt upon their Sacred Persons There is indeed a Child in Controversie touching which it must at least be