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the_o same_o ordain_v establish_v and_o enact_v that_o from_o henceforth_o the_o same_o erection_n and_o make_v of_o the_o same_o duke_n and_o all_o the_o name_n of_o dignity_n to_o the_o say_v george_n or_o to_o john_n nevil_n his_o father_n be_v from_o henceforth_o void_a and_o of_o none_o effect_n etc._n etc._n from_o which_o act_n three_o thing_n may_v be_v well_o observe_v first_o that_o the_o say_a duke_n have_v not_o any_o possession_n to_o support_v his_o dignity_n yet_o his_o dignity_n can_v not_o be_v take_v away_o from_o he_o without_o a_o act_n of_o parliament_n second_o the_o inconvenience_n appear_v where_o a_o great_a estate_n or_o dignity_n be_v not_o accompany_v with_o a_o livelihood_n three_o this_o be_v a_o good_a cause_n to_o take_v away_o the_o dignity_n by_o parliament_n for_o reconcile_a which_o opinion_n it_o seem_v indeed_o that_o though_o a_o person_n who_o be_v noble_a by_o birth_n shall_v fall_v into_o poverty_n yet_o that_o poverty_n can_v no_o more_o degrade_v he_o from_o his_o nobility_n than_o it_o can_v taint_v his_o blood_n but_o though_o it_o can_v root_v out_o that_o noble_a character_n from_o his_o blood_n and_o make_v he_o no_o gentleman_n yet_o it_o seem_v a_o good_a reason_n why_o he_o may_v be_v degrade_v from_o be_v a_o peer_n of_o the_o realm_n for_o the_o be_v a_o peer_n be_v no_o necessary_a effect_n of_o blood_n but_o a_o mark_n of_o the_o royal_a bounty_n bestow_v for_o the_o better_a government_n and_o advantage_n of_o the_o kingdom_n earl_n be_v by_o their_o original_a praepositi_fw-la comitatus_fw-la or_o commander_n of_o the_o county_n and_o county_n or_o shire_n be_v so_o call_v because_o they_o be_v the_o government_n of_o a_o count_n or_o earl_n and_o therefore_o when_o the_o king_n and_o parliament_n find_v that_o they_o be_v not_o fit_a to_o bear_v this_o quality_n they_o may_v just_o take_v away_o that_o honour_n that_o be_v give_v nor_o can_v there_o be_v any_o thing_n so_o inconvenient_a as_o that_o 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