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A36230 Honors pedigree, or, The [se]veral fountaines of gentry [be]ing a treatise of the distinct degrees of the nobilitie of this kingdome, with their rights and priviledges, according to the lawes and customes of England / [by] that juditious lawyer, Sir John Dodoredge ... Doddridge, John, Sir, 1555-1628. 1652 (1652) Wing D1793; ESTC R37279 103,037 198

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is no accepter of persons for as unto the Lord he that is greater is as the lesser and he that doth govern as the servant but with men there is a difference of persons viz. The King and under him Dukes Counts Barons Vavasors and Knights Counts so called because they take their name from the County or from the word society who may also be tearmed Consull of Counselling For Kings do associate such men unto them to govern the people of God ordaining them into great honour power and name when they do gird them with swords that is to say ringis gladiorum with the Belts of their swords ringis so called * quasi renes girans circundans for that they compasse the Reins of such that they may keep them from incest and luxury because luxurious and incestuous persons are abominable unto God upon this cause were the stations and encamping of Arms called in the ancient language of Rome cas●●● even of the word Castrare to geld since that they ought to be castrata vel castra In that place ought a good Generall to foresee that Venus delights be as it were g●lded and 〈◊〉 off from the Army vide Sir John Ferne his Book intituled The glory of generosity The sword also doth signifie the defence of the Kingdome and Countrey There be other Potents under the King which are called Barons that is to say robor belli the strength of Warre There be others which are called Vavasors viri magn● dignitatis ●en of great dignity for Vavasor cannot better be said to be any thing than Vas sortitum ad valetudinem a vessel chosen for valour or as men standing with their Generall ad valuas Regni and this is enough if not too much in generall spoken of the Nobility of England now follow I a more particular discourse of them according to their severall degrees The Prince THe Kings eldest Sonne and Heir apparant is stiled Prince Quasi primum locum capiens post Regem the first next the King To him it was permitted by the Statute of 24. Hen. 8. cap. 13. To wear Silk of the colour of Purple and Cloth of Gold of Tissue in his apparell or upon his horse but by another Statute made in the fourth yeer of King James Chap. 25. all Laws and Statutes concerning apparell are taken away And by the Statute of 34. Hen. 3. cap. 2. Taking shall not be from henceforth made by others then by the Purveyors of the King of the Queen and of the Prince their eldest Sonne and that if any other mans Purveyor make such taking it shall be done of them as those which do without warrant and the deed judged as a thing done against the peace and the Law of the Land and such as do not in manner aforesaid shall be duly punished To eschew maintenance and nourish peace and amity in all parts of the Realm many Statutes have been made in the Raign of Hen. 4. prohibiting the giving of signes or Liveries to any but to their menialls Neverthelesse by the Statute of 2. Hen. 4. cap. 21. It is provided that the Prince may give his honourable Liveries of signes to the Lords or to his meniall Gentlemen and that the said Lords may wear the same as they wear the Kings Livery and that the menialls of the Prince may also wear the same as the Kings menialls But afterwards by occasion of divers other Statutes of latter times made by sundry other Kings for the suppressing of that enormity of maintenance and of the generall words in them that priviledge of the Prince was abridged or rather taken away therefore the Statute of 12. Ed. 4. was made as followeth Item Our Soveraign Lord the King considering that the Prince the first begotten Sonne to the King of England hath been at their liberties to give their Liveries and signes at their pleasure and that divers Statutes against givers and takers of Liveries and signes as well in the time of his noble raign as in the time of his progenitors and predecessors hath been made and that by force of the said Statutes his dear beloved first begotten sonne Edward Prince of Wales Duke of Cornwall and Earl of Chester is as well as any other person restrained to give any such Liveries and signes as our Soveraign Lord the King willing that his first begotten sonne the Prince be at his liberty in receiving any person and giving his signes and Liveries in as large form as any Prince first begotten sonne of any of his Noble Progenitors and predecessors in time pas● have been hath ordained and established by authority of the said Parliament that the Prince shall be at his liberty to retain and give his honourable Livery and signe at his pleasure and that the persons so ●●●●ined or to whom such Liveries or signes be or shall be given may be retained and received and wear the same Livery and sign without trouble impediment or impeachment pain contempt or forfeiture or any penalty contained in any of the said Statutes or in any thing in them comprised notwithstanding Nor that the said Statutes in any manner shall extend to any retaining to be made by the said Prince in giving taking or retaining of any Livery or signe of the Prince By the Statute 21. Hen. 8. cap 13. The Prince may retain as many Chaplains as he will though all others of the Nobility other then those of the Kings bloud be restrained to a certain number and they or any of them may purchase licence or dispensation and take receive and keep personages or benefices with cure of souls By order of the common Law a King might have a reasonable ayde of all his Tenents as well of those that did hold of his highnesse by Knights service as of those that did hold their Land in soccage That is to make his eldest Sonne But first note that the ayde is not to be recovered before the Sonne be of the age of 15. yeers or before the Daughter accomplish the age of 7. yeers Fitz Harbert Nat. brevium Knight and for the Marriage of his eldest Daughter and the summe of money was not in certainty but at the Kings pleasure till by the Statute made in the 25. of Ed. 3. cap. 11. by which is enacted as followeth Item It is assented that reasonable aid to make the Kings first Sonne Knight and to marry his eldest Daughter shall be demanded and levied after the forme of the Stature thereof made and not in other manner that is to say of every Knights Fee holden of the King without mean rate 20s and no more and of every 20● of Land holden of the King without mean in soccag● 20s and no more and so rata pro rata of the Lands in soccage And for Lands of the ●enure of Chevalry according to the quantity of the Fee By another Statute made in the said 25. yeer of Ed. 3. cap. 2. amongst other things it is declared that to compasse
or imagine the death of the Kings eldest Sonne and Heir is crimen laesoe Majestatis high treason or if a man do violate the Wife of the Kings eldest Sonne and Heir it is high treason and see the Statute 20. Hen. 8. cap. 13. And so was the ancient common Law of England and not a new Law made by this Statute Cooks 8. Part. 28. 6. But this Statute is a manifestation and declaration or publication of the ancient common Law in this Case By a Statute made in the said 25. yeer of King Ed. 3. It is declared because the people be in ambiguity and doubt of the children born in the parts beyond the Sea out of the Kings Legiance of England should be able to demand any inheritance within the same Legiance or not Whereof a Petition was put into the Parliament late holden at Westminster the 17. yeer of the raign of our Soveraign Lord the King assembled in this Parliament and was not at the same time wholly assented Our Soveraign Lord the King willing that all doubts and ambiguities should be put away and the Law in this case declared and put i● a certainty hath charged the said Prelates Earls Barons and other wise men of his Counc●ll assembled in this 〈◊〉 to deliberate upon this point who with one asseur hath said That the Law of the Crown of England is an● alwayes hath been such that Les Enfants du Roy the children of the King of England in whatsoe●e● part they be born in England or elsewhere be able and ought to bear the inheritance after the death of their Ancestors which Law our Soveraign Lord the King the said Prelates Earls Barons and other great m●n and all the C●●amons assembled in this Parliament do approve and affirm for ever Note These words in the Statute Les Infants du Roy have briefly set down and in a vulgar manner for loquendum ut vulgus and not in form of exquisite pleading for sentiendum ut docti and therefore ought to be understood largely Cooks 7. part 11. 6. and as the Latine word liberi is with the Civilians Bract. lib. 2. cap. 29. hath these words Item descendit jus vero beredi ubicunque natus fuerit vel in utero matris intra mare vel ultra Nec potest sibi aliquis facere heredem quia solus Deus heredem facit The right doth descend unto the true Heir wheresoever he shall be born in the Womb of his Mother on this side the Sea or beyond no man can make an Heir unto himself because God only doth make the Heir read the Statute and Cook 7. part 18. a. Where you shall see that though generally the birth place is observable yet many times Legiance and obedience without any place within the Kings Dominions may make a Subject born for though we see by experience almost in every Parliament Ambassadors Merchants and the Kings souldiers doth shew there in such causes to have their children naturalized or made denizens yet that doth proceed onely of doubt and needlesse sc●pulosity and ignorance of the Law even as we see men that are doubtfull desire to be resolved as may appear by sundry covenants in bargaining more then necessary And by renuing of Chartes though there be no forfeitures and by suing forth particular pardons when a generall is granted by Parliament Priests and Ministers sue to the Parliament for legitimation of their children And in the Articles confirmed by Parliament touching the marriage between Philip Prince of Spain and Queen Mary a speciall proviso was to barre him from being Tenant by the courtesie of the Crown in case he should have issue by her and survive which was superfluous because the Common-Law would have denyed this last point See the Lord Cromwels Speech in the case of the Postnati fol. 36 But note that if an Alien Enemy come into this Realm and his Wife Engiish or stranger be delivered of a childe within England this childe notwithstanding his birth-place is an Alien born for want of allegeance in the Parents Ibidem King Henry did create Edward his eldest Sonne the first Prince of Wales and did give unto him the dignity and Dominion of it to be holden of him and his Heirs Kings of England and after that time the eldest sonne of the King of England hath been Prince of Wales and as incident to the State and dignity of a Prince and might make Laws and Statutes and use jurisdiction and authority as amply as any King of that Nation could do Plowden Cooks 7. part 21. 6. Vide Mills fol. 312. 126. For Wales was a Kingdom in ancient time But in a Statute made in the 12. Ed. 1. Wales was united and incorporated into England and made parcell of England in possession And note in Tho. Mylls 112. the devise of the said King was to draw the Welchmen to acknowledge the Kings eldest Son Edward of Carnarvan to be their Prince Also by another Statute made 27. Hen. 8. cap. 24. a generall resumption of many liberties and franchises heretofore taken or granted from the Crown as the authority to pardon Treason murther man-slaughter and fellony power to make Justices in Oyre Justices of assize Justices of peace Goal delivery and such like so that from thenceforth the Kings eldest Sonne hath only the name and stile of Prince of Wales but no other Jurisdiction then at the Kings pleasure is permitted him and granted by his Letters Patents as by the tenour thereof following made by King Henry the eight to Edward his sonne and heir apparent may appear Henry By the grace of God King of Ireland was before 33. Hen. 8. a Lordship and now is a Kingdom and the King of England was as absolute a Prince and Soveraign when he was Lord of Ireland as now when he is stiled King of the same Cooks 7. part England and of France Lord of Ireland c. To all Archbishops Bishops Abbots Priors Dukes Earls Barons Justices Viscounts Governours Ministers and to all our Bailiffs and faithfull Subjects greeting out of the excellency of Royall preheminence like as the beams from the Sunne so doth inferiour honour proceed neither doth the integrity of Royall lustre and brightnesse by the naturall disposition of the light-affording light feel any losse or detriment by such borrowed lights yea the Royall Scepter is also much the more extolled and the Royall Throne exalted by how much more noblenesse preeminences and honours are under the power and command thereof And this worthy consideration allureth and induceth us with desire to the increase of the name and honour of our first begotten and best beloved Sonne Edward in whom we behold and see our selves to be honoured and our Royall House also and our people subject to us hoping by the grace of God by conjecture taken of his gratious future proceedings to be the more honourably strengthned that we may with honour prevent and with aboundant grace prosecute him who in reputation
their places and then may proceed upon any thing there moved lawfully as lawfull persons for it is not convenient that they who are attainted should be in places of law full Judges And then another question was moved What shall be said of the King himself for he also was attainted by his Predecessour Rich. 3. and after communication had amongst themselves all did agree that the King was a person able and discharged of any former attainder ipso facto That he took upon him to raign and to be King by which it manifestly appeareth that by the Laws of England there can be no inter regnum within the same that presently by descent the next heir in blood is cōpleatly and absolutely King without any essentiall Ceremony or act to be done ex post facto And that Coronation is but a royall ornament and outward solemnization of the descent and of this last matter Read Cooks 7 part fol. 10. 6. and that there followeth Of Dukes THe form of the Patent of Duke of York that now is Rex c. To all Archbishops Bishops Dukes Marquesses Earls Viscounts Barons Justices Governours Knights Ministers And to all Bailiffs and faithfull Subjects greeting Whereas We often times call to minde how many and innumerable gifts and what excellent benefits that great worker of all goodnesse of his only benignity and clemencie hath abundantly bestowed upon Us who by his power hath consociated divers and mighty Lyons in firm peace without any strife but also hath amplified and exalted the bounds and limits of our Government by his unspeakable providence above our progenitors with an indissolvible conjunction of the ancient and famous Kingdoms in the right of blood under our Imperiall Diadem in regard whereof we cannot but most willingly acknowledge our fruitfulnesse and issue plentifully adorned with the gift of Nature which he hath vouchsafed upon us because in truth in the succession of children a mortall man is made as it were immortall Neither unto any mortall men at leastwise unto Princes not acknowledging superiours can any thing happen in worldly cases more pleasant and acceptable then that their children should become notable in all vertues gooodnesse manners and increase of dignity so as they which excell others in noblenesse of bloud and indowments of Nature might not be thought of others to be exceeded Hence it is that that great goodness● of God which is shewed unto us in our fertility to passe in silence or to be thought not to satisfie the Law of Nature whereby we are chiefly provoked to be well affected and liberall to those in whom we behold our blood to begin to florish coveting with great and fatherly affection that the perpetuall memory of our blood with honours and increase of dignity and all praise may be affected Our well-beloved Son Charls Duke of Albany Marquesse of Ormond Count of Rosse and Lord of Ardmannoth Our second begotten son in whom the Royall form and beauty worthy honour and other gifts of vertue do now in the best hopes shine in his tender graces We erect create make and ordain and to him the name stile state title dignity authority and honour of the Duke of York do give and him of that Name with the title state stile honour authority and dignity with other honors to the same belonging and annexed by the girding of the sword cap circlet of gold put upon his head and the delivery of a golden Virge we do really invest to have and to hold the same name and stile state and dignity authority and honour of the Duke of York unto the aforesaid Charles our second begotten son and to his heirs males of his body lawfully begotten for ever And that the aforesaid Charles our second begotten son according to the decencie and state of the said name of Duke of York may more honorably carry himself we have given and granted and by this our present Charter we confirm for us and our heirs unto the aforesaid Duke forty pounds to have and yeerly to receive to the foresaid Duke and his heirs for ever out of the Farms issues profits and other commodities whatsoever comming out of the foresaid County of York by the hands of the Sheriffe of the same County for the time being at the Terms of Easter and Michael the Arch-angel by even portions for that expresse mention of other gifts and grants by us unto the same Duke before time made in these presents made doth not appear notwithstanding These be witnesses the most excellent and most beloved Henry Prince our first begotten son Vlrick Duke of Holst brother of the queen our beloved wife and the Reverend Father in Christ Richard Archbishop of Canterbury Primate and Metropolitan of all England and also our welbeloved and faithfull Councellour the Lord Elesmore and Chancellour of England Thomas Earl of Suffolk Chamberlain of our houshold and also our dear cousin Thomas Earl of Arundel and our well-beloved cousin and Councellour Henry Earl of Northumberland Edward Earl of Worcester Master of our horse George Earl of Cumberland and also our well-beloved cousins Henry Earl of Southampton William Earl of Pembroke and also our well-beloved cousins Charles Earl of Devon Master of our Ordinance Henry Earl of Northampton Warden of the Cinque-Ports John Earl of Marr Robert Viscount Eranborne our principall Secretary and our well-beloved and faithfull Councellour Edward Lord Zuch President of out Councell in the Principality and Marches of Wales and also our wel-beloved and trusty Robert Lord Willoughby of Earsby William Lord Mounteagle Gray Lord Chandois William Lord Compton Francis Lord Norris Robert Lord Sidney our well-beloved and faithfull Councellours William Lord Knowles Treasurer of our houshold Edward Lord Wotton Comptroller of our houshold and our well-beloved and faithfull Councellour Alexander Lord and also our wel-beloved and faithfull Councellors George Dunbarr Lord of Barwick Chancellour of our Exchequer Edward Lord Bruse of Kinlose Master of the Rolls of our Chancery and also our faithfull and well-beloved Thomas Lord Eskine of Bielton Lord Balmermoth and others given by our hand at our Pallace of Westminster the sixth day of January in the second yeer of the Raign of K. James K. Edw. 3. in the 11 year of his Raign by his Charter in Parliament and by authority of Parliament did create Edw. his eldest son the black-Black-Prince D. of Cornwall not onely in title but cum feodo with the Dutchy of Cornwall as by the tenour of the said Letters Patents exemplified may appear Cook● 8 part in the pleading Habend ' et tenend ' eidem duci et ipsius et heraed ' suorum Regum Angliae fili●s prim●g●ni●is et dicti loci d●●ibus in Regno Angliae bereditatoriae successoris To have and to hold to the same Duke and his heirs Kings of England the first begotten sons and Dukes of the same place in the kingdom of England and to hereditary succession so that he that is hereditable must be heir
apparant of the King of England and of such a King who is heir unto the said Prince Edward And such a first begotten son and heir apparant to the Crown shall inherit the said Dukedom in the life of the said King his father with manner of limitation of estate was short excellent and curious varying from the ordinary Rules of the Common Law touching the framing of any estate of inheritance in fee-simple or fee-tail And neverthelesse by the authority of Parliament a speciall fee-simple i● in that onely case made as by judgment may appear in the Book aforesaid and the case thereof fol. 27. and 21 E. 3. 41. b. And ever since that creation the said Dukedom of Cornwall hath been the peculiar inheritance of the Kings eldest son ad supportandum nomen onus bonoris to support the name and weight of that his honourable estate during the king his fathers life so that he is ever Duxnatus non creatus a Duke born not created and the said Duke the very first day of his nativity is presumed and taken to be of full and perfect age so that he may sue that day for his livery of the said Dukedom and ought of right to obtain the same as well as if he had been full 21 yeers of age And the said Black-Prince was the first Duke in England after the Conquest for though Bracton who made his Book in H. 3. saith Et sunt sub reg●duces as before appeareth yet that place is to be understood of the ancient kings who were before the conquest for in Mag. Charta which was made in Anno 9 H. 3. we finde not the name of Duke amongst the Peers and Nobles there mentioned For seeing the Norman Kings themselves were Dukes of Normandy for a great while they adorned none with this honour of Duke And the eldest son of every King after this creation was Duke of Cornwall and so allowed As for example Henry of Munmouth eldest son of H. 4. and Henry of Winso● eldest son of H. 5. and Edw. of Westminster the first son of Ed. 4. and Arthur of Winchester first son of H. 7. and Edward of Hampton first son of H. 8. but Richard of Burdeaux who was the first son of the black-Black-Prince was not Duke of Cornwall by force of the said creation for albeit after the death of his father he was heir apparant to the Crown yet because he was not the first begotten son of a King of England for his father dyed in the life time of king Ed. 3. the said Richard was not within the limitation of the grant and creation by authority of Parliament made in the 11 yeer of king Edward above mentioned And therefore to supply that defect in the 5. yeer of Ed. 3. he was created Duke of Cornwall by a speciall Charter Elizabeth eldest daughter to king Edw. 4. was not Dutches of Cornwal for she was the first begotten daughter of king Edw. 4. but the limitation is to the first begotten son Henry the 8. was not in the life of his father king H. 7. after the death of his eldest Brother Arthur Duke of Cornwall by force of the said creation for albeit he was sole heir apparant to the king yet he was not his eldest begotten son Cooks 8 part 29. b. and 30. a. And the opinion of Stamford a learned Judge hath been that he shall have within his Dukedom of Cornwall the kings Prerogatives because it is not severed from the Crown after the form as it is given for none shall be inheritour thereof but the kings of the Realm For example whereas by the Common Law if a man hold divers Mannors or other lands and to●ements of severall Lords all by knights service some part by priority and ancient Feoffment and other lands by posterity and by a latter Feoffment and the Tenant so seized dyeth his son and heir within age In this case the custody of Wardship of the body and his marriage may not be divided among all the Lords but one of them onely shall have right unto it because the body of a man is intire and the Law doth say That the Lord of whom some part of those lands be holden by priority and by the same tenure of Chivalry shall have it except the king be any of the Lords for them though the Tenant did purchase that land last yet after his death the king shall bee pre●erred before all or any other the Lords of whom the Tenant did hold by priority And so shall the Duke of Cornwall in the same case have the same Prerogative if his Tenant dye holding of him but by posterity of Feoffment for any tenure of his Dutchie of Cornwall although the said Duke is not seized of any particular estate whereof the reversion remaineth in the king for the Prince is seized in fee of his Dukedom as before is said Iohn of Gaunt the fourth son of king Edward 3. did take to wife Blanch who was daughter and heir to Henry Duke of Lancaster who had issue Henry afterwards king of England so that the said Dutchy of Lancaster did come unto the said Henry by discent from the part of his mother and being a subject he was to observe the Common Law of the Land in all things concerning his Dutchie For if he would depart in Fee with any part thereof hee must make livery and seizen or if hee had made a Lease for life reserving rent with a reentery for default of payment and the rent happen to be behind the Duke might not enter unlesse hee doe make a demand or if he had aliened any part thereof whilest he was with age hee might defeat the purchaser for that cause and if hee would grant a reversion of any estate for life or yeares in being there must also be Attornment or else the grant doth not take effect But after that hee had deposed King Richard the second and had assumed upon him the Royall estate and so had conjoyned his naturall bodie in the bodie Politique of the King of this Realme and so was become King Then the possessions of the Duchie of Lancaster were in him as King and not as Duke For the name of Duke being not so great as the name of a King was drowned by the name of King and by the State Royall in him who was Duke for the King cannot bee a Duke within his owne Realme but out of his Realme hee may And likewise the name of the Duchie and all the Franchizes Liberties and Jurisdictions of the same when they were in the hands of him who had the Crowne and Jurisdiction Royall were gone by th● Common Law and extinct for the greater doth distinguish the lesse and after those times the possessions of the Dutchie of LANCASTER would not passe from King Henry the fourth but by his Letters Patents under the great Seal of England without livery of seifin and without Attornment and if he make a Lease for life being Duke
of us is deemed the same person with us Wherefore by the Councell and consent of the Prelats Dukes Earls Viscounts and Barons of our Kingdom being in our present Parliament we have made and created and by these presents make and create him the said Edward Prince of Wales and Earl of Chester and to the same Edward we give and grant and by this Charter have confirmed the Name Stile Title State Dignity and the honour of the said Principality that he may therein in governing rule and in ruling direct and defend We by a Garland upon his head by a Ring of Gold upon his Finger and a Virge of Gold have according to the manner invested him to have and to hold to him and to his Heirs the Kings of England for ever Wherefore we will and straightly command for us and our Heirs that Edward our Sonne aforesaid shall have the Name Stile Title State Dignity and honour of the Principality of Wales and of the County of Chester aforesaid unto him and his Heirs the Kings of England aforesaid for ever These being witnesses the Reverend Father John Cardinall and Archbishop of Canterbury Primate of all England our Chancellor and William Archbishop of York Primate of England Thomas Bishop of London John Bishop of Lincolne and William Bishop of Norwich our most welbeloved Cousins Richard Duke of York Humpbry Duke of Buckingham our welbeloved Cousin Richard Earl of Warwick Richard Earl of Salisbury John Earl of Wiltshire and our welbeloved and faithfull Cousins Ralph Cromwell Chamberlain of our House William Falconbridge and John Sturton Knights Dated at Our Palace at Westminster ●he fifteenth day of March and in the yeer of Our Raign ●hirty two And here by the way may be observed that in ancient time and in the time of the English Saxon Kings the use was as well in penning the Acts of Parliament as of the Kings Letters Patents when any lands franchises or hereditaments did passe from the King of any estate of inheritance as also in their creations of any Man unto honour and dignity the conclusion was with the signe of the Crosse in forme aforesaid that is his Testibus c. But long time that forme hath been discontinued so that at this day and for many yeares past all the Kings Patents for lands franchizes and h●reditaments doe conclude with teste me ipso neverthelesse in all creations of honour and dignity by Letters Patents the ancient forme of concluding with his testihus is used at this day Cookes 8. part 19. And it hath been resolved by the Judges that all Acts of Parliament and Statutes which doe concerne the Prince who is the first begotten son of the King and heire apparant to the Crowne for the time being Perpetuis futuris temporibus in all succession of ages and times be such Acts whereof the Judges and all the Realme must take conusance as of generall Statutes for every subject hath interest in the King and none of his subjects who is within his Lawes be divided from him being his head and Soveraign so that the businesse and things of the King doth touch all the Realme and namely when it doth concerne the Prince the first begotten sonne of the King and Heire apparant to the Crowne Corruscat enim Princeps radlis Reg●s Patr● sii censetnr und persona cum ipso For the Prince shineth with the beames of the King his Father and is holden to be one person with him Cookes 8. part 28. Although the Prince by expresse words hath no priviledge by the great Charter of the Forrest 9 H. 3. cap. 11. for hunting in the Kings Forrests or Parks passing by them and sent for by the Kings commandment yet by construction the Prince is to take benefit and advantage thereby as well as Bishops Earls or Barons who are expressed Crompt Courts des Justices de Forrests 167. In the Parliament 31. H. 8. c. 10. an Act concerning the placing of the Kings children and Lords in the Parliament and other assemblies were amongst other things made as followeth First it is enacted by the authority aforesaid that no person or persons of what degree estate or condition whatsoever he or they be except only the Kings children shall at any time hereafter attempt or presume to sit or have place at any side of the cloth of state in the Parliament chamber neither of the one hand of the Kings Highnesse or of the other whether the Kings Majesty be there personally present or not The Prince shall not find pledges for the prosecution of any Action and therefore shall be amerced more then the King should be or the Queen his wife Vide Cooks 8. part 61. b. Of the most noble and excellent Prince that now is it is truly said that he is omni nomine numine magnus by destiny name providence of God the greatest before Cook to the Reader before his 8. Book the last leaf Neverthelesse as he is a distinct person by nature from the King so is he distinct by the Law viz. a Subject and holdeth his principalities and seigniories of the King neither shall he have all those Prerogatives which the King shal have for example when the King seizeth his Subjects lands or taketh away his goods from him having no title by order of the Law so to do In this case the Subject is to sue to his Soveraign Lord by way of Petition onely for other remedy hath he not but suit by Petition can be to none other then to the King for no such suit shall be made to the Prince but Actions as the case requireth as against a Subject Stamf. praerog ca. 22. And in token of subjection the Prince doth not upon his Posie of his Arms disdain the old Saxon word Ichdien I serve as Lambert doth mention in his Book of Perambulation of Rent 364. And there is a case that Gascoin chief Justice of Engl in the time of H. 4. did commit the Prince who would have taken a prisoner from the Bar in the Kings Bench and the Prince did humbly obey and did go at his command in which the King did greatly rejoyce that hee had such a Judge who durst minister justice upon his son and also that hee had a son so gracious as to obey Court de Banco Regis 79. Crompton A question was moved to the Justices in the first yeer of H. 7. what order should be in that present parliament for the anulling and making void certain attainders for so much as divers who were returned of that Parliamet did stand attainted of treason and all the Justices resolved That so many of the Knights of the shires or Citizens or Burgesses as stood then attainted of treason should depart out of the Parliament house at the reversall of the Act of Parliament for their attainders But ●s soon as the Act of Parliament was reversed and annuld that they and every of them that is to say Lords and Commons should come into