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A57033 A reply to the Second return, or, A modest account of ye present posture of affaires in England 1682 (1682) Wing R1082; ESTC R6514 6,804 4

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Lordship is pleased to add the word Rebel to the name Protestant yet it will agree much better with the Papists whose Religion is Rebellion and 't is impossible to find one true subject of them in the World to any but the Pope if they beleive their own Religion I find your Lordship is very kind to Court Converts and would pass over the blackness of all their former transactions and you have great reason since you are so lately one your self but be not deluded the Papists think not as you think they never forgive past offences Argile cannot be forgiven the being his Fathers son Nor the Duke of Lauderdale will not be forgiven the having brought the Covenant into England Twedale will find hereafter that 't will be remembred he sat in Olivers Parliaments And I should tell your Lordship that you will suffer hereafter by a halter of the Duke of Yorks providing but that my skill in Astrology hath told me a Garter of your own useing shall prevent it The jealous Churchmen that Govern the Popish Interest never forgives especially men capable of thinking and judging other things then they would have them Your Lordship is extreamly out when you tell us the Associations in Queen Elizabeths time were entred into with her consent and privity when the Queen her self in her speech to the Parliament in the twenty eight year of her Reign Did protest before God that she never heard or thought of such matter being wholly ignorant of it till a great number of hands with many obligations were shown her at Hampton Court signed and subscribed with the hands and seales of the greatest in this Land But you are pleased to call the several Parliaments that about that time so extreamly opposed the Succession of Mary Queen of Scots a Puritan Gang and have found out a Clergy Nobility and Gentry in the Clouds that were of another opinion no question there were some and great store of Papists in those days but I am sure the Parliament were violently against her succession as appears in the Rolls Nay and against her life too for it was then daily experienced that the Queen was not safe whilst the head of so desperate and bloudy a Religion as the Papists was in being Pray My Lord let me ask you freely is not this the very Case now 't was the Opinion of our Parliaments and the truth appears every day more and more Can your Lordship make a difference between the Case of Queen Elizabeth and her Popish Successor Mary Queen of Scots which your self have so wisely instanced in and brought upon the Stage and the present Case of our King and the Duke of York Hath the Papists appeared less bloudy in their Designes since that time Have they less Passion for introducing their Religion did the Queen of Scots discover more ambition for the Crown of England than our Duke hath she was a Prisoner in the Queens hands and in custody and had not the tenth part of the opportunity the Duke hath whose friends and creatures possess all the Governments and Commandments of Sea and Land fill the Courts and Councils so easy and unwary pardon me if I so say hath our King been But the D of Y s Loyalty is not to be disputed Though I remember the time when he got the Fleet from his Brother the Prince and swore it to himself And I appeal to the King whether he knows not of several attempts were made to set up the D. of York before his coming over and the Transactions in the Dukes name of the D. of B m and Collonel Banfield for the restoring the Duke to the Crown and not the Elder Brother are suffciently to be proved We are all witnesses of the Kings marriage by the Dukes Father in Law to a Lady of great birth but such as the Spanish Embassador then undertook to prove could have no Children and immediately upon this marriage the Duke as if sure of this matter sets up with Guards the Princes Lodgings at Court and seat in Parliament And all the Establishment of his house exactly suitable to the Prince of Wales His unparallel'd love to his Prince appeares in all this and in nothing more then the civil treatment the King at this hour receives from him and his party the throngs that tend the one whilst the King walkes the streets with two or three Pages of his backstayrs Our King is the first instance that was so willing to settle indubitably the Tytle of his Presumptive Heir and to strengthen his Power gives it up all to his Successor But he goes far that never turns especially in such perilous and unsafe ways Our King is not only an excellent well bred Gentleman but a man of great abilities and courage three things his brother wants Whenever the King will think of his own interest he will not want hundreds of thousands to dye at his feet multitudes would adore him that hate and fear the Religion and temper of his Brother Pray God bless the King and give him yet more and more the Spirit of discerning his Interest and friends and the courage to deliver himself from the hands of such unworthy base Traytors as we have reason to fear he is now encompassed with Shall ever be the hearty Prayers of Yours c. LONDON Printed for E. S. 1682.
you of it for I know it hath been long in your mind and often in your debates and therefore I thought it more necessary to warn others of what you are most likely to do And since you talk so much of the Duke of Yorks Loyalty and Love to his Prince I pray God preserve the King and keep him out of your bloudy hands I beg to know to what purpose your Lordship recites that my Lord S y was Lord Chancellor do you quarrel at any of his decrees or actions then or wherein did he not execute that Office as a great and good man should and what doth your Lordship mean by the certain strict Test for the discovery of Popery opposed by that Lord in Parliament the Test that was passed against Popery which every Officer is obleig'd to take is notoriously known was principally promoted by him If your Lorship mean the other bill of the Test which he opposed 't is the same with what the Duke of York hath passed lately in Scotland and is a great step to the Destruction of the Protestant Religion The truth is there are so many of these downright Popish touches in your Paper that I sometimes doubt whether it be your Lordships or no Since you are but a Papist of two years standing and yet they say young Proselites are the fiercest But this Paper must come from a Papist or Voted Enemy to the King and Kingdom since you tell us that you would have the days of Dissolving the two last Parliaments kept Festival Anniversarily in Commemoration of your deliverance from those great and apparent dangers wherewith you were encompassed whilst they were in Session None but such fellows and their Faction being then in danger But I find your Lordship extream angry at the word Faction since you will please to have it that your worthy Abhorrors and Addressors are not a Faction but the total of the Kings Subjects who conscienciously respect their own duty and the general welfare Pray my Lord let us examine this excellent position of your Lordships setting aside your heat and railing Does your Lordship think that the choice of Sheriffs the great care in returning select men for grand Juries The arts that were us'd to draw many of them into these Abhorrences are not well known to all the Nation We never doubt but you have choise of Gentlemen to make Sheriffs fit for your turn and they have Rogues to make under Sheriffs in every County Neither is it doubted that seventeen or eightteen men may be found in most Countys for your turn although in some and those great Countries you could not find above thirteen and in several other Countries you have failed absolutely and yet all this will not speak your Party the hundredth part of the Nation Hath your Lordship found out another way to make a distinction between the sence of the Nation and that of a dangerous Party than that of the House of Commons will you tell me that a Parliament chosen against all the opposition industry power and mony of the Court is not the sence of the greatest part of the Nation Will your Lordship affirm that this is a Faction and your Lordship the Papists the Duke of York and his Creatures are the only Loyal Subjects to the King and Government And what sort of People these make up may be guess'd by what you profess your selves for A Government infinitely worse than that in Turkey wherein the Law shall be of no other use but as a mask to the Princes worst actions and Tyranny Our Religion Estates Lives and Liberties Subjected to the most Arbitrary will of the Prince who being a man is as capable and lyable to be extreamly ill as any other besides what Law you allow to this King who is an excellent Prince as your King must be allowed to the next though he be the worst in nature And yet you will find out away that by naming Judges Sheriffs and Juries all things shall certainly go as the Court and great men order 't is already so compleat in Scotland where the Proverb is show me the man and I will tell you the cause This is away that no sober or honest men were ever for in any Country The zeal of your Lordships to preserve your greatness of your Duke to get a Crown and of the Papists to introduce their Religion hath outgone by many steps all that ever went before you I acknowledg it the Kings Prerogative to call Parliaments but Edw. the 3d. tels us he was sworn by his Coronation Oath to provide remedy in Parliament upon great Emergencis And our Laws have been very careful to fix the frequency of them And 't is that onely Court that can keep all the rest useful to the King and People they are brave spirits indeed and blest with a Popish Torish humility or rather stupid folly if not wicked villanous designes that are unconcerned when a Parliament should be called and leave it to the Prince whether he please to have any or no. The Law hath given us a right nay 't is our chiefest Birthright and without which we have nothing left us but are meer slaves to Parliaments within such a distance of time The Prince hath the Prerogative of appointing the day and dissolving when the business is done but the Prince is oblieged that we have Parliaments within our time and continued so as may be of effect to provide remedys for the Emergent evils His prerogative of appointing the day ought not to deprive us of our right of having them in such a time Neither ought his Power to dissolve them render them useless to us I am heartily sorry your Lordship is so ill instructed in the Protestant Religion that you ask what it is but you profess that your self and your fellow Addressors Abhorrors are zealous for the Religion by Law established in the Church of England so then you do not know the Protestant Religion but Religion by Law established you are well acquainted with what security will your Lordship give that when your Army is compleated and your Militia Abhorrers and Addressors muster'd that you will not tell us that the Religion established by Law in the Church of England is the Old Popish Religions setled by Magna Charta which is not repealable by any future Act. For this good old cause your Lordship and friends at Court hath nurst up the King of France to this height he is now in Christendom and all Europe is abundantly in your debt for it Qantum Religio potuit suadere malorum I own my self a friend to the Dissenting Protestants until your Lordship can find out an infallible decider of points of Faith I can give men leave to differ from me in opinion whilst they live soberly and honestly by me There are none I know so inconsistent with Government as the Papist who owns a forreign Jurisdiction and disolves all natural Religion to introduce his own And though your