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A04988 A Catholicke apologie against the libels, declarations, aduices, and consultations made, written, and published by those of the League, perturbers of the quiet estate of the realme of France Who are risen since the decease of the late Monsier, the Kings onely brother. By E.D.L.I.C.; Apologie catholique. English Belloy, Pierre de, ca. 1540-1613.; Aggas, Edward, attributed name. 1585 (1585) STC 15137; ESTC S108196 138,975 314

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