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A46413 King James, his apopthegmes, or table-talke as they were by him delivered occasionally and by the publisher (his quondam servant) carefully received, and now humbly offered to publique view, as not impertinent to the present times / by B.A. gent. Agar, Ben, 17th cent.; James I, King of England, 1566-1625. 1643 (1643) Wing J127; ESTC R8288 14,692 16

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foresaid Master Haddock to put in practise his Preaching in his sleep did proceed from two naturall infirmities to which he was subject the one was stammering in speech so finding himselfe more ready to speake being quiet in his bed and his eies shut from any obiect to trouble his mind he could utter himselfe more perfectly The Second reason was his pronesse to talke in his sleep c. These two as the King conceived pricked him on to that foule practise and illusion of Sathan c. 18. At Theobalds Ann. Dom. 1621. That there is more pride under Diogenes and a Puritans cap then under a Kings Crowne That the not paying Tithes to the Church is many times the ruin of great estates That the King hath observed some in particular that after a long continuance of prosperity with great increase in their ancestors yet by neglect of tiths paying have been impoverished although otherwise never so provident and industrious That he should account nothing blessed if he should deny the necessity of tiths paying That against all impugnors he would demand what conscience there were to expect ten pound use for every hundred pounds and yet to question with God for the tenth of his owne That this is most impugned by Puritans and Lecturors that are not beneficed That most Lawyers possessing much land do as it were fright the Churchmen out of their tiths by tricks of Law and so fearing them with perilous and tedious suites That such as impugne it most are most greedy of it after they come to it 19. Ibid. Ann. Dom. 1622. That the King vowed never to be of that Religion where so grosse an opinion as Transubstantiation was so ignorantly maintained while God kept him in his right wits That he commended the Preacher of that day for stilling the puritans of our Church protestant Jesuits as also the Jesuits of the Church of Rome he termed Jesuiticall puritans for both of them are great enemies to monarchicall government To manifest the grossnesse of their error in their opinion of Transubstantiation The King had heard of a Jew that once stobbed the bread or wafer and some affirme there issued out perfect blood which among them is still kept and they premit somtimes mice and rats to eat it c. now consider how disproportionable a thing it is after consecration if it be the very body as they aver that they should allow a Jew to crucifie him againe and also for mice and ratts to eat our Saviour His Majesty did vehemently inculcate the grossnesse of this error and furthermore said that Bellarmine was much troubled about this poynt whether the bread and wine although much taken together do turne to Corporall nutriment or not or transubstantiated as aforesaid and then a greater error followeth c. 20. That it was strange to looke into the life of Hen. 8. how like an Epicure he lived c. It was once demanded by King Hen. 8. of one what he might do to be saved who answered that he had no cause to feare having lived so mightie a King and done so many worthy acts in his life time but oh said he I have lived too like a King which King Iames inferred was rather like no King for the office of a King is to do iustice and equity but he only served his sensuality like a beast c. 21. That a monarchicall government by secular Kings and Priests is the only ordinance of God and the Republiques but only a depraved institution of man for depraved ends as appeareth manifestly by the whole current of Scripture even from Adam to the primitive Church after Christ c. That God in his wisedome approved no fitter nor safer meanes to rule his people but by such an institution That from the beginning there was instituted heads over every familie over the good and bad as Seth and his posterity Cain Lamech even to the Devell c. After that the 12. Patriarks were as Secular Princes as free as I am here and more too for they had potestatem vitae necis in themselves without any Iury after them the Judges and so absolute Kings with a promise that the scepter should not depart c. and so also after Christ to this very day Besides among Heathen and Savages by naturall instinct they ordained Kings and Princes among beasts they have a King and so among birds the Dear hath his Master of a heard the smallest creatures have their cheef what shall I say then to such as will have no concordance with God with men with beasts inferior creatures with Devills nor any but with themselves and are all for a Republique in all which I have said there is no mention of a Republique as if it were a strange thing to God himselfe That his Majestie did thinke many here in England did wish their Estates were lying by Amsterdam which thing the King did also wish to such c. That in Venice which is governed by a Republique they do createno honors or dignities but a Merchant of Venice which is seldome c. That the Mothers and Nurses do call their children in reproach Barons which is with us a stile of honor c. That the Pope doth create Kinghts as a secular Prince That the honor conferred upon any Centurion abroad is there with no esteeme but the King hath made many Knights of them here c That no iurisdiction elective as Emperors Kings Princes c. is any honor or precedency to any of the allies of him elected but personall to himselfe c. That to have inployment in any republique in that state is dangerous for do he well or ill he is sure to rue it and he speedeth best that doth worst like a Scottish tale I have heard of one that never sped well among the Lawyers when he had a good cause because he then least suspected it and the other side bribed but when his cause was ill he then also bribed and countermanded and so the greatest carried it for the most part even so in republiques That the Agent here for the Venetians although he presented to the King a Letter from their Duke subscribed with his own hand with addition of all his titles and the Kings inserted yet at the delivery no mention made of the Duke himsefe not somuch as commendations but our republique greets you c. That the King in all his reading could never truly find what the name of a Cardinall was and yet he hath sought much for it unlesse it were a Cardo on which the wheele moves c. That in the Primative Church of Rome there were inferiors to Bishops and were but seven in number as Persons of the seven Churches mentioned about Rome but how they come to place them before Bishops and make of them Princes and Potentates and how they become the Electors of the Papacy I cannot get to know That it is strange the Pope should create his owne makers
KING JAMES HIS APOPTHEGMES OR TABLE-TALKE AS THEY VVERE BY Him delivered Occasionally AND By the publisher His quondam Servant carefully received AND Now humbly offered to publique view as Not impertinent to the present Times By B. A. Gent. London printed by B. W. 1643. The Preface or Induction to the Reader AS the Queen of Sheba declared the servants of Solomon to be happy which stood continually before him and that heard his wisdome 1 King 10. 8. I may as confidently affirm that never since hath any Age produced a Prince of so neere affinity or resemblance unto him who of so ample indowments in wisdome judgement and equity hath enlarged himselfe in his life time witnesse the many and manifold unparalelled Trophies of his excellencies yet remaining which flowed not alone from his pen and indefatigable dexterity but sacred lips also by eloquent discourses as well as profound documents and deep Commentaries whereof a late extraction is yet extant in view I therefore conceived it a needfull duty in pious imitation of the former to revive the memory of so just and learned a master in his ordinary discourses and Table-talke accounting my selfe the most happy though least worthy of many to partake of such gracious opportunities which those Halcian dayes did plentifully afford conceiving it might be objected against me as a piece of ingratitude to have deprived the time or posterlty of such Gems and inferences meet for discourse upon contingent occasions These were heedfully observed and carefully taken from the sacred mouth of the first Speaker King JAMES of famous memory accidentally falling long time since upon discourse and Table-talke at open meales in his Majesties royall presence or privy Chamber doubtlesse in the hearing and yet perfect remembrance of divers of his Majesties neere servitu●es and attendants yet living they were assiduously collected as well at his Majesties own standing houses as also in his forraigne progresse both in England and Scotland with the sundry times and places when where and upon what occasions or arguments they were uttered a Catalogue whereof I have presumed hereafter to insert for some peculiar use of these refractory times all which I may boldly affirme have been providently preserved and newly revised and published in times of distemper and distraction who knoweth otherwise then to make good and accomplish the ancient and moderne prophesies and predictions of those contingencies which have reference to the Royall Person of so incomparable a Soveraign whereof some have had their period already in and upon his Person living and now since his decease may from his Corps and Ashes reflect some analogy and resemblance as for example in that of Mother Shepton That England should tremble and quake for dread A dead man that should speake c. Before I dare not conclude or determine but then in fine I am assured when together with that royall sacred and divine Spirit of his soule and body re-unite each single person no lesse members as glorious Saints of God with Angels and Archangels shall in a joyfull and heavenly Quire with the Church Triumphant sing Gloria in excelsis c. for evermore Amen To wa●● the Vulgars Cataract and quit each single stake I 've 〈◊〉 the light growne dim by what a dead King spake Per me B. A. KING IAMES HIS APOPTHEGMES OR TABLE-TALKE 1. THAT it is a Maxime in the Romish Religion declared by most of their own Writers That the Pope may if he will at one Masse free all the soules out of Purgatory His Majesties inference on this Position was with abnegation of the Popes Charity and admiration of his unparalel'd cruelty that being granted to have power so to doe doth not nor may not apply his will unto it If it were possible for one man to free all the world from hell ought he not to doe it c. 2. That the wearing of Leeks on St. Davids day by the Welchmen was a good honourable and commendable fashion seeing that all memorable acts have by their Agents something worne for distinction and also to preserve the memory thereof unto posterity even as the Passeover was to the Jews that when their children should aske why they went girded with staves in their hands they might shew them the cause c. So the Welchmen in commemoration of the great fight by their black Prince of Wales doe weare Leeks as their chosen Ensigne c. 3. At Cambridge c. That an infallid thing may be discerned and knowne by a fallid meanes as for example our senses are fallid but by them wee know many things infallid c. whence the Papists inferre that because the Church is visible therefore the chiefe Head must be visible The Universall Church consisteth of two parts one visible the other invisible to wit a visible body and an invisible spirit and therefore the chiefe Head of the Church should rather be visible but we grant many visible substitutes over the Church as subordinate Rulers under the Chiefe c. 4. His Majestie observed a quaint Interrogatory put to a jealous Lover out of that famous Comedy of Ignoramus the which his Majestie highly commended viz. whether he desired most or rather to be termed Publius Cornolius or Cornelius Tacitus In further approbation of which Comedie beside in opposition and dislike of another Comedie performed and acted before his Majestie by the Schollers of the Universitie of Oxford that as in Cambridge one Sleepe made him Wake so in Oxford one Wake made him Sleepe 5. Doctor Baily holding conference with the King touching the Popes Arrogancy alluding to Christs Answer to his Apostles He that desires to beare rule let him be the least among you and therefore the Pope doth sometimes colourably terme himselfe Servus Servorum c. To which the King replies that by such Argument or inference he could prove the Pope to be humbly minded to which the Doctor answeswered that he did not alwayes so account himselfe save onely when he had purpose to delude or deceive otherwise he esteemed himselfe Dominus Dominantium c. His Maiesties determination on the Point was that the Popes calling himselfe Servus Servorum c. was rather in a more strict and peculiar sence as th●t he was Servus Petri c. sive Mariae Virgims c. and so by consequence Servus servorum Dei c. toward all other Dominus Dominantium c. So likewise to be a professed Catholike is to be a true Christian but to be a Romane Catholike is it which marreth the matter It was the reproofe of the Donatists which were accounted Catholiques but confined their profession into one corner of Affrica So also the Romanists whereas the true Catholique is universall 6. At Edenbrough in Scotland tertio dei Junii Anno Dom. 1617. That whereas our Saviour saith It is as easie for a Camell to passe through the eye of an needle as for a rich man to enter into the Kingdome of Heaven c.