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A50712 Observations upon the laws and customs of nations, as to precedency by Sir George Mackenzie ... Mackenzie, George, Sir, 1636-1691. 1680 (1680) Wing M186; ESTC R5733 107,612 141

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be_v his_o counselor_n but_o himself_o nor_o be_v the_o parliament_n any_o thing_n but_o his_o great_a council_n but_o since_o this_o degradation_n be_v a_o kind_n of_o forfeitur_fw-la it_o seem_v that_o the_o parliament_n only_o can_v be_v judge_n therein_o since_o the_o king_n do_v not_o use_v to_o forfeit_n by_o his_o own_o authority_n and_o though_o the_o former_a argument_n may_v prove_v that_o a_o peer_n can_v be_v degrade_v for_o poverty_n except_o the_o king_n please_v which_o be_v certain_o true_a since_o no_o act_n of_o parliament_n can_v pass_v without_o his_o royal_a consent_n yet_o they_o prove_v not_o that_o the_o king_n may_v degrade_v a_o nobleman_n by_o his_o own_o authority_n except_o he_o may_v judge_v all_o case_n immediate_o by_o himself_o question_v xxvii_o whether_o be_v a_o patent_n never_o make_v use_n of_o by_o the_o father_n valid_a after_o his_o death_n it_o be_v answer_v that_o though_o the_o patent_n be_v grant_v to_o such_o a_o man_n therein_o design_v seem_v to_o die_v with_o he_o and_o that_o the_o father_n die_v with_o this_o quality_n can_v transmit_v it_o to_o his_o son_n yet_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o patent_n be_v valid_a to_o his_o posterity_n for_o except_v where_o it_o be_v design_v to_o be_v personal_a it_o be_v conceive_v in_o favour_n of_o a_o man_n and_o his_o heir_n and_o thus_o it_o be_v judge_v in_o the_o cause_n of_o quesnel_n advocate_n in_o rowan_n 4._o may_v 1623._o vid._n la_o rocque_n cap._n 67._o question_n xxviii_o whether_o if_o the_o father_n use_v any_o low_a or_o base_a trade_n which_o derogate_v from_o nobility_n will_v his_o child_n and_o descendants_n lose_v it_o thereby_o in_o answer_v to_o this_o case_n we_o must_v distinguish_v betwixt_o such_o as_o derive_v their_o nobility_n from_o their_o father_n only_a and_o some_o think_v that_o in_o that_o case_n the_o misbehaviour_n of_o the_o father_n do_v extinguish_v the_o nobility_n of_o the_o race_n and_o that_o the_o descendant_n be_v no_o 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be_v take_v away_o by_o the_o father_n baseness_n or_o crime_n warnaesius_fw-la tom_n 1._o responsorum_fw-la de_fw-la jure_fw-la pontificio_fw-la consil._n 20._o numb_a 7._o and_o thus_o we_o find_v in_o the_o roman_a story_n that_o marcus_n emilius_n scaurus_n be_v find_v not_o to_o have_v lose_v his_o nobility_n by_o his_o father_n become_v a_o bearer_n of_o coal_n curt._n conjectur_n jur_fw-fr civil_a lib._n 2._o cap._n 20._o and_o other_o think_v that_o as_o it_o be_v sufficient_a for_o acquire_v nobility_n that_o the_o grandfather_n and_o father_n have_v be_v repute_n noble_a so_o by_o the_o rule_n of_o contrary_n it_o be_v sufficient_a for_o extinguish_v nobility_n that_o the_o father_n and_o grandfather_n have_v be_v repute_n ignoble_a and_o though_o the_o right_n of_o blood_n can_v be_v lose_v by_o prescription_n yet_o nobility_n may_v be_v lose_v as_o all_o other_o privilege_n can_v by_o not_o exerse_v or_o own_v
not_o to_o restore_v the_o precedency_n in_o prejudice_n of_o those_o who_o have_v acquire_v title_n betwixt_o the_o forfeitour_n and_o restitution_n a_o clear_a instance_n whereof_o we_o have_v in_o the_o earl_n of_o crawfurd_n who_o be_v forfeit_v for_o rebel_a against_o k._n james_n the_o 2._o at_o the_o battle_n of_o brichen_n and_o be_v thereafter_o restore_v he_o be_v not_o restore_v so_o as_o to_o take_v place_n from_o the_o earl_n of_o huntly_n but_o yet_o it_o be_v observable_a that_o the_o 4._o act._n p._n 16._o p._n 87._o i._o 6._o which_o appoint_v restitution_n per_fw-la modum_fw-la gratiae_fw-la not_o to_o prejudge_v three_o paties_n speak_v only_o of_o land_n possession_n and_o such_o other_o part_n of_o the_o estate_n forfeit_v but_o speak_v not_o of_o honour_n and_o therefore_o some_o conclude_v that_o person_n forfeit_v may_v be_v restore_v to_o the_o honour_n of_o their_o family_n notwithstanding_o the_o precedency_n by_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o nobility_n in_o the_o interim_n which_o be_v the_o rather_o receive_v among_o we_o that_o the_o king_n may_v with_o we_o create_v a_o earl_n with_o the_o precedency_n from_o all_o other_o as_o he_o can_v have_v do_v in_o england_n before_o the_o statute_n of_o hen._n 8._o for_o i_o find_v by_o the_o herald_n record_v that_o edmond_n of_o hadham_n be_v create_v earl_n of_o richmond_n &_o quod_fw-la habeat_fw-la sedem_fw-la in_o parliamentis_fw-la &_o alibi_fw-la proximum_fw-la ducibus_fw-la and_o henry_n beauchamp_n earl_n of_o warwick_n be_v make_v primus_fw-la comes_fw-la angliae_fw-la whereas_o he_o be_v former_o almost_o last_v and_o thereafter_o be_v create_v duke_n of_o warwick_n with_o this_o addition_n that_o he_o shall_v go_v mate-like_a with_o the_o duke_n of_o northfolk_n and_o above_o the_o duke_n of_o buckingham_n and_o since_o our_o king_n have_v this_o prerogative_n and_o that_o they_o have_v not_o restrict_v themselves_o they_o may_v have_v it_o still_o though_o they_o shall_v use_v it_o spare_o question_n xxxvi_o whether_o have_v the_o ambassador_n of_o monarch_n the_o precedency_n from_o other_o monarch_n or_o prince_n themselves_o if_o personal_o present_a even_o as_o the_o king_n will_v do_v who_o they_o represent_v and_o if_o in_o all_o case_n a_o ambassador_n ought_v to_o have_v the_o same_o precedency_n that_o be_v due_a to_o his_o constituent_n to_o this_o it_o be_v answer_v that_o though_o a_o ambassador_n represent_v the_o monarch_n from_o who_o he_o derive_v his_o commission_n and_o that_o some_o learned_a lawyer_n do_v upon_o that_o account_n assert_v that_o they_o be_v to_o have_v the_o same_o precedency_n that_o be_v due_a to_o their_o master_n and_o so_o to_o be_v prefer_v to_o all_o king_n and_o prince_n though_o present_v to_o who_o their_o constituent_n will_v have_v be_v prefer_v paschal_n de_fw-fr legat._n cap._n 38._o yet_o the_o custom_n of_o nation_n have_v run_v contrar_n to_o his_o opinion_n in_o prefer_v even_o inferior_a king_n and_o prince_n and_o it_o be_v decide_v among_o the_o prince_n of_o germany_n tit._n 25._o aureae_fw-la bullae_fw-la car._n 4._o and_o in_o anno_fw-la 1542._o the_o ambassador_n of_o charles_n the_o five_o emperor_n be_v decern_v to_o cede_fw-la the_o precedency_n to_o ferdinand_n king_n of_o the_o roman_n and_o the_o reason_n be_v 1_o o._n because_o prince_n find_v it_o their_o interest_n to_o have_v no_o subject_a compete_fw-it with_o they_o or_o to_o have_v their_o own_o presence_n lessen_v by_o such_o mark_n of_o disrespect_n 2_o o._n in_o a_o prince_n who_o be_v present_a there_o reside_v true_a and_o original_a majesty_n whereas_o a_o ambassador_n be_v only_o dignify_v with_o a_o supposititious_a and_o representative_a honour_n shine_v if_o i_o may_v so_o say_v with_o borrow_a ray_n and_o of_o this_o opinion_n be_v brunus_n de_fw-fr legat._n lib._n 5._o cap._n 8._o and_o costa_n consil._n 44._o though_o zouch_v de_fw-fr jure_fw-la inter_fw-la gentes_fw-la seem_v to_o favour_n paschal_n opinion_n it_o may_v be_v likewise_o doubt_v whether_o a_o ambassador_n do_v retain_v the_o same_o precedency_n due_a to_o he_o as_o ambassador_n when_o the_o prince_n who_o send_v he_o come_v to_o the_o place_n himself_o and_o this_o be_v debate_v by_o the_o earl_n marishal_v who_o be_v send_v over_o ambassador_n to_o denmark_n when_o k._n ja._n 6._o go_v over_o in_o person_n thereafter_o and_o bring_v over_o chancellor_n maitland_n with_o he_o who_o challenge_v the_o precedency_n from_o the_o earl_n marishal_n allege_v that_o a_o ambassador_n power_n evanish_v upon_o his_o prince_n appearance_n which_o debate_n be_v decide_v by_o king_n james_n in_o favour_n of_o the_o chancellor_n albeit_o the_o earl_n contend_v that_o as_o his_o embassy_n cease_v upon_o the_o king_n come_v thither_o so_o do_v the_o other_o office_n as_o chancellor_n cease_v in_o a_o foreign_a kingdom_n and_o therefore_o that_o he_o shall_v have_v precede_v as_o be_v a_o earl_n the_o former_a opinion_n prefer_v inferior_a prince_n when_o personal_o present_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v so_o much_o the_o rather_o true_a that_o ambassador_n be_v not_o when_o they_o come_v to_o visit_v the_o judicature_n of_o the_o nation_n where_o they_o precede_v allow_v the_o same_o precedency_n and_o general_o it_o be_v give_v as_o a_o rule_n by_o lawyer_n that_o in_o locis_fw-la &_o actibus_fw-la judicialibus_fw-la legatis_fw-la praecedentia_fw-la solita_fw-la non_fw-la servatur_fw-la &_o non_fw-la pro_fw-la dignitate_fw-la regis_fw-la aut_fw-la alterius_fw-la a_o quo_fw-la ablegati_fw-la sunt_fw-la gothofred_n de_fw-fr jure_fw-la praecedentiae_fw-la cap._n 7._o num_fw-la 47._o so_o that_o though_o king_n themselves_o will_v sit_v above_o all_o these_o judicature_n yet_o their_o ambassador_n sit_v but_o among_o they_o thus_o the_o venetian_a ambassador_n be_v only_o place_v in_o the_o parliament_n of_o paris_n after_o the_o bishop_n as_o rupan_n observe_v lib._n 7._o cap._n 10._o though_o ambassador_n have_v the_o same_o precedency_n that_o be_v due_a to_o their_o constituent_n yet_o agent_n and_o resident_n of_o prince_n have_v not_o nor_o have_v the_o pope_n nuncio_n the_o precedency_n that_o be_v due_a to_o a_o ambassador_n gothofred_n ibid._n for_o these_o in_o effect_n be_v send_v oftentimes_o to_o prevent_v the_o debate_n that_o might-fall_a among_o ambassador_n and_o therefore_o the_o french_a king_n send_v very_o rare_o his_o ambassador_n to_o the_o emperor_n court_n because_o he_o know_v that_o court_n will_v give_v the_o spanish_a ambassador_n the_o precedency_n which_o he_o think_v be_v due_a to_o his_o ambassador_n question_n xxxvii_o whether_o have_v such_o as_o have_v be_v ambassador_n or_o have_v be_v in_o such_o honourable_a employment_n any_o precedency_n thereby_o when_o their_o employment_n be_v end_v to_o which_o it_o be_v answer_v that_o though_o after_o a_o honourable_a employment_n be_v over_o whether_o by_o dimission_n or_o by_o the_o expyre_a of_o the_o commission_n the_o precedency_n thereto_o annex_v cease_v with_o it_o yet_o the_o prince_n sometime_o gratify_v the_o person_n with_o a_o continuance_n of_o some_o precedency_n and_o honour_n and_o in_o the_o record_n of_o the_o herald_n office_n in_o england_n i_o find_v that_o in_o a_o court_n marishal_n sir_n dudley_n diggs_n and_o sir_n thomas_n smith_n be_v adjudge_v to_o have_v the_o precedency_n from_o other_o knights-batchelour_n of_o their_o own_o degree_n because_o they_o have_v be_v ambassador_n though_o their_o commission_n be_v expire_v in_o the_o custom_n also_o of_o most_o nation_n a_o judge_n retain_v still_o among_o those_o of_o his_o own_o bench_n the_o same_o precedency_n that_o he_o have_v former_o before_o his_o dimission_n or_o his_o be_v lay_v aside_o except_o he_o have_v be_v lay_v aside_o for_o a_o crime_n or_o fault_n question_n xxxviii_o what_o place_n be_v due_a to_o the_o representative_n of_o subject_n such_o as_o viccar_n depute_n assistant_n &_o c_o it_o will_v seem_v that_o as_o ambassador_n have_v the_o same_o place_n that_o be_v due_a to_o he_o who_o they_o represent_v so_o those_o who_o represent_v subject_n as_o viccar_n who_o represent_v the_o bishop_n depute_v who_o represent_v judge_n aught_o to_o have_v the_o same_o place_n that_o be_v due_a to_o those_o who_o they_o represent_v i_o find_v that_o l._n 7._o de_fw-fr bonorcodicil_n c._n theod._n there_o be_v four_o dignity_n rank_v viz._n praefectorum_fw-la proconsulum_fw-la vicariorum_fw-la &_o exconsularium_fw-la and_o certain_o in_o those_o act_n wherein_o they_o represent_v their_o constituent_n they_o have_v the_o same_o precedency_n that_o be_v due_a to_o he_o felin_n in_o cap._n cum_fw-la olim_fw-la de_fw-fr offic._n de_fw-fr legat._n and_o thus_o by_o the_o canon_n law_n the_o bishop_n vicar_n be_v prefer_v to_o the_o dean_n and_o archdean_n and_o not_o only_o be_v these_o representative_a dignity_n prefer_v in_o the_o act_n of_o their_o jurisdiction_n but_o even_o in_o all_o other_o deed_n which_o necessary_o precede_v or_o follow_v they_o and_o some_o lawyer_n be_v of_o