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say_v he_o this_o be_v the_o light_n that_o light_v every_o one_o that_o come_v into_o the_o world_n john_n 1.9_o whereby_o they_o will_v prove_v that_o child_n do_v receive_v light_n at_o their_o very_a first_o come_n into_o the_o world_n be_v thus_o to_o be_v understand_v quia_fw-la nullus_fw-la hominum_fw-la illuminatur_fw-la nisi_fw-la lumine_fw-la illo_fw-la veritatis_fw-la because_o no_o man_n be_v lighten_v but_o only_o by_o that_o light_n what_o now_o be_v become_v of_o that_o lumen_fw-la fidei_fw-la the_o light_n of_o faith_n which_o you_o say_v be_v infuse_v into_o child_n in_o baptism_n a_o appendix_n of_o the_o popish_a use_n in_o baptise_v of_o bels._n the_o papist_n error_n 106_o they_o begin_v now_o to_o be_v ashamed_a of_o the_o blind_a practice_n of_o their_o superstitious_a and_o ignorant_a forefather_n for_o bellarmine_n flat_o deni_v that_o bell_n be_v baptize_v among_o they_o but_o they_o be_v only_o consecrate_v and_o hallow_v for_o divine_a use_n as_o other_o 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money_n for_o the_o baptise_v of_o bell_n with_o what_o face_n then_o can_v they_o deny_v this_o ungodlie_a custom_n of_o they_o in_o christening_n and_o baptise_v of_o bell_n the_o sixth_o question_n of_o the_o effect_n and_o fruit_n of_o baptism_n the_o part_n of_o this_o question_n be_v these_o first_o whether_o our_o sin_n be_v whole_o remit_v and_o clean_o take_v away_o in_o baptism_n second_o whether_o baptism_n serve_v only_o for_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n that_o be_v past_a three_o of_o the_o liberty_n and_o privilege_n which_o be_v obtain_v by_o baptism_n which_o part_n be_v now_o several_o to_o be_v handle_v the_o first_o part_n whether_o in_o baptism_n our_o sin_n be_v clean_o take_v away_o the_o papist_n the_o sin_n which_o be_v past_a they_o affirm_v not_o only_o by_o the_o grace_n of_o christ_n error_n 107_o receive_v in_o baptism_n to_o be_v forgive_v and_o pardon_v and_o no_o more_o impute_v but_o even_o whole_o to_o be_v raze_v
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no_o sacrament_n last_o they_o want_v the_o true_a use_n and_o end_n of_o a_o sacrament_n which_o be_v to_o strengthen_v our_o faith_n for_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n for_o in_o some_o of_o these_o there_o be_v no_o relation_n at_o all_o have_v to_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n as_o matrimony_n do_v but_o perform_v say_v they_o the_o grace_n of_o marriage_n as_o fidelity_n mutual_a love_n and_o such_o like_a order_n do_v confer_v the_o power_n of_o priesthood_n here_o be_v no_o sign_n or_o assurance_n of_o the_o grace_n of_o justification_n in_o the_o rest_n remission_n of_o sin_n be_v ascribe_v to_o other_o instrumental_a mean_n then_o to_o faith_n only_o as_o to_o satisfactory_a work_n in_o absolution_n to_o chrism_n in_o confirmation_n to_o oil_n in_o extreme_a unction_n wherefore_o we_o conclude_v because_o they_o be_v no_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n as_o saint_n paul_n define_v a_o sacrament_n rom._n 4.11_o that_o they_o be_v no_o sacrament_n of_o christ_n institution_n but_o superstitious_a ceremony_n devise_v by_o man_n here_o ensve_fw-la such_o qvestion_n and_o controversy_n as_o be_v move_v concern_v the_o benefit_n of_o our_o redemption_n purchase_v unto_o we_o by_o the_o death_n of_o christ._n the_o seventeen_o controversy_n all_o the_o benefit_n of_o our_o redemption_n may_v be_v bring_v to_o these_o three_o head_n our_o predestination_n vocation_n and_o justification_n as_o they_o be_v set_v down_o by_o the_o apostle_n rom._n 8.30_o these_o three_o then_o be_v the_o part_n of_o this_o controversy_n the_o first_o part_n of_o predestination_n the_o particular_a question_n be_v these_o first_o whether_o predestination_n be_v of_o the_o wicked_a to_o condemnation_n as_o of_o the_o elect_a to_o salvation_n second_o whether_o our_o election_n be_v of_o mere_a grace_n three_o whether_o it_o be_v certain_a &_o unchangeable_a the_o first_o question_n of_o reprobation_n the_o papist_n god_n they_o say_v be_v not_o the_o cause_n of_o any_o man_n reprobation_n or_o damnation_n rhemist_n error_n 55_o annot_v roman_n 9.1_o he_o intend_v no_o man_n damnation_n direct_o or_o absolute_o but_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o demerit_n ibid._n sect_n 5._o argum._n 1._o timoth._n 2.4_o god_n will_v have_v all_o man_n to_o be_v save_v and_o come_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o truth_n ergo_fw-la the_o perish_a or_o damnation_n of_o none_o must_v be_v impute_v to_o god_n rhemist_n the_o protestant_n an._n 1_o no_o man_n must_v impute_v his_o damnation_n to_o god_n because_o the_o wicked_a be_v just_o punish_v for_o their_o sin_n without_o any_o respect_n have_v unto_o the_o secret_a counsel_n of_o god_n yet_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o god_n to_o set_v forth_o his_o glory_n as_o he_o have_v make_v some_o the_o vessel_n of_o honour_n so_o other_o be_v ordain_v to_o be_v vessel_n of_o wrath_n without_o any_o respect_n have_v to_o their_o work_n either_o good_a or_o evil_n and_o this_o notwithstanding_o stand_v with_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n to_o save_v some_o and_o reject_v other_o for_o he_o may_v just_o condemn_v all_o to_o eternal_a death_n now_o if_o notwithstanding_o he_o have_v mercy_n of_o some_o his_o justice_n in_o the_o condemnation_n of_o the_o rest_n be_v not_o to_o be_v complain_v of_o but_o his_o mercy_n to_o be_v extol_v in_o save_v of_o some_o god_n indeed_o will_v have_v all_o man_n to_o be_v save_v that_o be_v say_v augustine_n omnes_fw-la homines_fw-la 1â—3_n omne_fw-la genus_fw-la humanum_fw-la intelligamus_fw-la by_o all_o man_n we_o must_v understand_v all_o sort_n or_o all_o kind_n of_o man_n not_o every_o particular_a man_n and_o this_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o apostle_n meaning_n which_o before_o exhort_v man_n to_o pray_v for_o king_n and_o prince_n and_o then_o he_o give_v this_o reason_n because_o god_n will_v have_v all_o man_n to_o be_v save_v that_o be_v high_a and_o low_a king_n and_o people_n of_o all_o sort_n and_o this_o place_n also_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v not_o of_o the_o secret_a but_o of_o the_o reveal_v will_n of_o god_n who_o offer_v unto_o all_o the_o outward_a mean_n of_o their_o salvation_n thus_o also_o augustine_n expound_v these_o word_n remota_fw-la hac_fw-la discretione_fw-la quam_fw-la divina_fw-la scientia_fw-la intra_fw-la secretum_fw-la iustitiae_fw-la suae_fw-la continet_fw-la syncerissimè_fw-la credendum_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n set_v apart_o the_o consideration_n of_o the_o secret_a counsel_n and_o justice_n of_o god_n it_o be_v sincere_o to_o be_v believe_v that_o god_n will_v have_v all_o man_n to_o be_v save_v that_o be_v offer_v unto_o all_o the_o outward_a mean_n of_o salvation_n as_o his_o word_n and_o sacrament_n contr._n articul_fw-la fall_v imposit_a art_n 2._o argum._n rom._n 9.22_o the_o apostle_n speak_v plain_o that_o as_o god_n have_v prepare_v some_o vessel_n unto_o glory_n so_o also_o some_o be_v ordain_v to_o wrath_n and_o that_o the_o counsel_n of_o god_n be_v most_o just_a herein_o for_o as_o the_o potter_n may_v dispose_v of_o the_o clay_n as_o it_o seem_v best_a to_o himself_o to_o make_v of_o it_o a_o vessel_n of_o honour_n or_o of_o dishonour_n at_o his_o pleasure_n so_o the_o lord_n have_v as_o great_a right_n to_o deal_v with_o his_o creature_n and_o see_v all_o thing_n ought_v to_o be_v subdue_v to_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n which_o be_v set_v forth_o in_o the_o destruction_n of_o the_o rebellious_a as_o in_o the_o election_n of_o the_o faithful_a it_o be_v necessary_a and_o requisite_a that_o the_o lord_n shall_v get_v unto_o himself_o both_o way_n a_o glorious_a name_n therefore_o he_o say_v rom._n 9.17_o that_o god_n have_v set_v up_o pharaoh_n to_o show_v his_o power_n in_o he_o augustine_n say_v tenenda_fw-la est_fw-la inconcussè_fw-la haec_fw-la regula_fw-la impios_fw-la in_o peccatis_fw-la antequam_fw-la essent_fw-la in_o mundo_fw-la praescitos_fw-la esse_fw-la tantùm_fw-la 6._o non_fw-la praedestinatos_fw-la poenam_fw-la autem_fw-la ijs_fw-la praedestinatam_fw-la this_o rule_n we_o must_v undoubted_o hold_v that_o the_o wicked_a be_v only_o foresee_v or_o foreknow_v of_o god_n in_o their_o sin_n not_o predestinate_a but_o their_o punishment_n be_v predestinate_a so_o then_o god_n ordain_v not_o man_n to_o sin_n but_o he_o ordain_v man_n to_o punishment_n not_o have_v relation_n to_o their_o sin_n but_o in_o his_o own_o secret_a counsel_n yet_o be_v not_o the_o wicked_a to_o complain_v for_o they_o be_v just_o forsake_v because_o of_o their_o rebellion_n and_o disobedience_n neither_o be_v the_o godly_a and_o faithful_a by_o this_o doctrine_n to_o be_v discourage_v for_o as_o much_o as_o god_n have_v not_o deny_v they_o the_o grace_n of_o his_o spirit_n but_o have_v give_v they_o faith_n and_o repentance_n and_o strength_n to_o walk_v before_o he_o in_o his_o fear_n all_o which_o be_v pledge_n unto_o they_o of_o their_o free_a election_n and_o salvation_n in_o christ._n the_o second_o question_n whether_o predestination_n proceed_v from_o the_o free_a will_n and_o purpose_n of_o god_n without_o relation_n to_o our_o work_n the_o papist_n god_n do_v not_o hate_n or_o reprobate_v any_o man_n but_o for_o sin_n or_o the_o foresight_n thereof_o error_n 56_o rhemist_n rom._n 9_o sect_n 2._o neither_o do_v christ_n appoint_v any_o by_o his_o absolute_a and_o eternal_a election_n to_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o fruit_n of_o his_o redemption_n without_o any_o condition_n or_o respect_n of_o their_o own_o work_n obedience_n or_o free_a will_n rhem._n heb._n 5.9_o argum._n heb._n 5.9_o he_o be_v make_v the_o author_n of_o eternal_a salvation_n to_o all_o that_o obey_v he_o they_o be_v not_o we_o see_v elect_v without_o condition_n of_o obedience_n rhemist_n the_o protestant_n ans._n 1._o god_n indeed_o elect_v all_o that_o shall_v be_v save_v not_o with_o any_o condition_n on_o their_o behalf_n but_o on_o his_o own_o behalf_n for_o unto_o they_o who_o he_o choose_v he_o will_v give_v grace_n to_o obey_v