Selected quad for the lemma: prayer_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
prayer_n	pray_v	spirit_n	supplication_n	6,826	5	11.2274	5	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A81412	A dialqgue [sic] betwen [sic] a dissenter and a church-man touching general and particular points. General, viz. of common-prayer, surplice, cross in baptizm, kneeling at sacrament, god-fathers and mothers, baptism it self. Particular. Of original sin, general redemption.		1689 (1689)	Wing D1293aA; ESTC R227165	12,793	20

A DIALOGVE BETWEN A DISSENTER AND A CHURCH-MAN Touching General and Particular POINTS General Viz. Of Common-Prayer Surplice Cross in Baptizm Kneeling at Sacrament God-Fathers and Mothers Baptism it self Particular Of Original Sin General Redemption Contend earnestly for the Faith once delivered to the Saints London Printed in the Year 1689. A DIALOGUE Between a DISSENTER And a CHURCH-MAN c. Dissenter VVEll met Brother Protestant in this day when there is so many Fears and Jealousies abroad in the World one cries one thing another cries another thing but none of them can tell what to say Church-man Why what do they say if I may ask you for I am a Man that do not much enquire after News Dissen Why some say the Bishops will have the Dissenters down and will not allow Liberty of Conscience others say they will be all upon even ground but it is certain nothing can be before the Parliament settle it But what think you Church-m I think and hope the Dissenters will not have that Liberty that you think they will for they are a Factious People and such as will sow Sedition amongst us and what have been the effect of their having their Liberty but Trouble and unhappy Wars Dissen Well but why so fast upon the Dissenters you make as if they were the worst People in the World you Run upon them but pray instance in what they are so bad Church-m Why they will not comply with the Laws of the Land and Government of the Church they will not allow of the common-Common-Prayer and Latteny of the Church with the Surplice and other Ceremonies of it Established by Law. Dissen First you say they will not comply with the Laws of the Land pray what Law is it that they break Do not they pay all manner of Taxes and Excise and Custom as others do All that you can charge them with is in matters of the Church and that of their Conscience and in that Cause whether it be lawful to obey God or Man judge you and I hope before we have done I shall find you of a more Charitable temper and do hope we shall better agree for I delight not in the heats of Passion but had rather do all things in Love I am perswaded were there a right understanding of our Principles you would not have so hard thoughts of us And you ought to put on if you be the Elect of God Bowels of Mercy and yet let us cōntend earnestly for the Faith delivered to the Saints and that Faith let us stick and stand by it is but some hot spirits that will not come to the Touch that have made all those Differences among us that are Secondly in matters of the Church you say they disagree well this is a Point of Conscience and we cannot agree with your Church in this for they hold a Form of Prayer and we a Spirit of Prayer and this is a Point to be cleared Church-m Why it is clear enough the Apostle commands that Prayers and Supplications be made for all Men Mark the Word he made and if made who shall they be made by but by the holy Men of the Church Dissen Well I grant the Apostle doth say so but what doth the same Apostle say Pray in the Spirit and pray with Understanding now if by the Spirit not by a Form for if you go by Form you tye up the Spirit to that Form beside the Apostle bid us walk as you have us for an Example now if he had intended a Form of Prayer would not he have given us the Example now if I must follow a Form I must have the Example of the Apostles for it and also the same that they had if any Man receive any thing in the Woship of God more then God hath Instituted and Commanded by the Apostle let him be accursed And do not your Church make the Common Paryer a Tradition in the Church and teach it for a Doctrine nay do not they say it is more Sin to neglect that then it is to neglect a Sermon from the Word of God and they show it plainly for if a Man come to the Sermon and not to the Prayer they will nevertheless Excommunicate them from Communion Church-m You require an Example of the Apostles well I will give you the Example of their Lord and Master when you pray say Our Father which art in Heaven c. I hope this will convince you that a Form is lawful and so end the Controversie shortly Dissen Now you say well and here I must fall if I cannot stand I acknowledge Christ did give this Form but we must consider two things first the Reason why this Prayer was given secondly the time when it was given and first the Reason why because they should not be like the Heathen which in a Form used long Prayers to be seen of Men and therefore our Saviour tells thom when you pray let it be in secret another Reason was because as yet they had not the knowledge of Prayer according to the Will of God Secondly the time when the Prayer was given it was when the Apostles were Young and they had not received the holy Spirit which our Saviour told them should lead them into all Truth so that then it was very necessary that they might know what to pray for but as in the Type of the Law when the Antitype appeared the Type vanished so now when the Spirit of Truth appeared to lead into a Spirit of Prayer the Form of Prayer must cease now Christ tells them as though he should have said I give you now a Form of Prayer that you may know how to pray that so you may be found in your Duty till I go and then I will send you the Spirit of Truth and that shall direct you into Truth without a Form and besides when the Holy Ghost came down like cloven Tongues in the days of Penticost do you think it came with a Form Besides if our Saviour had intended Forms would he not have given more and seeing he hath given no more how dare you use more if it were law ful seeing the Apostle saith Let him be accursed that add or diminish besides you make the Spirit of no effect for if Christ hath said he will give his Spirit to them that ask and that that Spirit shall lead into all Truth and yet you will not trust to that Spirit to lead you do not you tell our Lord that you will not believe him nor his Spirit but will rather pray by the Example of Men then by that Spirit and so you make it of no effect tell you or your Ministers of a Spirit of Prayer and do not they make a Laugh and a Scoff at it Oh for shame away with this Spirit Church-m Well I see you think your self wiser then all the Fathers of our Church but a Man in his own wisdom may fall what then do you say that our Prayers were not