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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A33225	A view of the whole controversy between the representer and the answerer, with an answer to the representer's last reply in which are laid open some of the methods by which Protestants are misrepresented by papists.	Clagett, William, 1646-1688.	1687 (1687)	Wing C4402; ESTC R10868	75,717	128

Books are written into a way of judging what Popery indeed is and whether we have rightly condemned it or no if they were not already satisfied in these things especially because all was done with that plainness and perspicuity that if the Discourse was in any particular greatly defective it could not but be obvious to an Adversary that was it seems thought a fit Person by his Superiors to Represent Popery to this Kingdom and to defend it against this Church The First Reply of the Representer TO this Answer the Representer published a Reply under the Title of Reflections upon it Now did he in these Reflections undertake to shew from Point to Point That the Answerer had without cause corrected either the Misrepresenting or the Representing Side where he undertook to correct them Did he as the Answerer has done before him take the Questions in their Order to examine how they were stated and where need was did he pretend to state them better Nay Did he bear up fairly to any one point of Representation that his Adversary thought fit to alter and try by the force of his Learning to reduce it to what it was when he left it No truly his mind did not serve him for stating of Questions But did he not stand up in defence of his Anathema's which his Answerer charged not without giving Reasons for it with Art and Sophistry No he did not so much as offer at it What then was the business of his Reflections Did they turn upon our Reasons against Popery as Represented by the Representer No sure Nor was it likely that he should be forward to answer our Arguments that had no Fancy to defend his own What Did he not betake himself to make good his own particular Arguments in behalf of Popery against his Adversaries Answers Nothing less I assure you he did not take care so much as of one Argument belonging to any one point but fairly left them all to take their Fortune Is it not enough for a man to bring Arguments but he must be troubled to defend them Well From this time forward the Representers business was not to Dispute but to Represent But was it so from the beginning The Representer indeed has ever since so vehemently disclaimed Disputing that perhaps he only Represented at first Let us therefore try that a little Were there not three Arguments for Veneration of Images and for Praying to Saints Were not Moses Job Stephen the Romans the Corinthians the Ephesians and almost every sick Person that desires the Prayers of the Congregation engaged one way or other Did he not argue for Transubstantiation from our Saviours Words from the Power of God from the incompetency of Sense and Reason to judg in this no less than in some other cases I think this is Disputing There were three Texts of Scripture to justifie the Restraining of Christian people from reading the Scripture And if they are not vanished out of the Book there are about seven Reasons for Communion in one Kind The 12th Chapter of the 2d Book of Maccab. was once thought one good Authority for the Doctrine of Purgatoy and St. Matth. 12.32 another And a little pretence of Antiquity there was beside and three or four more Reasons for it and in this strain the Book went all along Now this I say Those Arguments were not made by the Answerer but they were answered by him and so were all the rest and now they may go shift for themselves And yet this is the Gentleman who with no small opinion of himself takes his Adversary to task for letting his Arguments drop nay for not saying one word to all his own Reasons pressed against himself Reply p. 2 3 4 c. but letting the matter fall very cautiously when it comes to his own turn of Disputing and Defending his own Reasonings and that too in a Case directly appertaining to our main point of Representing c. Now this is a biting Accusation if it be a True one and before we part I hope we shall have a word or two about that But if it were as true as I am well assured 't is false the Representer of all men living should have made no words on 't and that not only because himself is a most notorious example of forsaking his own Arguments in their distress but because his Adversary was so generous to wink at him when he stole off from his Disputing post upon the very first attack that was made upon him For I do not remember that he charges him with this in shewing the progress of the Controversie and indeed considering all his other Advantages there was no need of it So that if the Representer had been content this might have been forgotten still but if a man ows himself a shame he does well to pay it Well but what went the Reflections upon all this while By this time I think a stranger may guess the Truth and that is that the Reflections were to flutter up and down between the Answer to the Introduction and the Answer to the Book and to settle no where And now I shall give as short and faithful an abstract of them as I can In the Answer to the Introduction the Answerer declared himself unsatisfied with the Representers method to clear his Party from Misrepresentations and particularly that he should make his own ignorant childish or wilful mistakes the Protestant Representations of Popery as that the Papists are never permitted to hear Sermons which they are able to understand and the like Now from hence the Representer desires leave to assure his Friends that the Protestant Representations of Popery are ignorant Reply p. 4. childish or wilful mistakes One would not have expected so mean a Cavil so soon after he had promised most material Points p. 1. But because I find in his Protesting Reply that he is ashamed to own it I shall take no further notice of this than to tell him He ought to have been more ashamed to deny it it being so manifest that what the Answerer said of some of his Misrepresentations he applied to all that himself calls Misrepresentations An. p. 10. Rep. p. 3 4. that his utmost Art will never be able to disguise it to any man that will take so much fruitless pains as to compare the places But to proceed 1. Whereas the Answerer justly exposed him for pretending to draw his Misrepresentantions exactly according to his own Apprehensions Pag. 2 3. when himself was a Protestant he now affirms that he can justifie his Protestant Characters of Papists by Protestant Books which he names and out of one of them Sutcliffs Survey he produces some sharp sayings concerning Popery Nay he thinks to defend his Complaints of Misrepresentation by those very words of the Answerer concerning that Popery which the Representer allows we can never yield to it without betraying the Truth renouncing our Senses and our Reason wounding our