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be_v any_o sick_a among_o you_o let_v he_o call_v for_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n and_o let_v they_o pray_v over_o he_o anoint_v he_o with_o oil_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o the_o prayer_n of_o faith_n shall_v save_v the_o sick_a and_o the_o lord_n shall_v raise_v he_o up_o and_o if_o he_o have_v commit_v sin_n they_o shall_v be_v forgive_v he_o hardly_o be_v there_o any_o sacrament_n whereof_o the_o matter_n the_o minister_n and_o the_o effect_n be_v more_o express_o specify_v in_o all_o the_o scripture_n then_o of_o this_o the_o form_n be_v the_o prayer_n let_v they_o pray_v over_o he_o the_o matter_n the_o oil_n anoint_v he_o with_o oil_n the_o minister_n a_o priest_n or_o elder_a of_o the_o church_n let_v he_o call_v for_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n the_o primary_n effect_n be_v the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n and_o the_o secondary_a the_o ease_n of_o the_o sick_a in_o body_n say_v and_o the_o lord_n shall_v raise_v he_o up_o and_o if_o he_o have_v 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a_o angel-guardian_n or_o keeper_n contrary_n to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o their_o own_o bible_n mat._n 18.10_o take_v heed_n that_o you_o despise_v not_o one_o of_o these_o little_a one_o for_o i_o say_v unto_o you_o that_o in_o heaven_n their_o angel_n do_v always_o behold_v the_o face_n of_o my_o father_n which_o be_v in_o heaven_n therefore_o they_o have_v their_o angel-keeper_n a_o thing_n so_o plain_a that_o john_n calvin_n dare_v not_o deny_v it_o although_o he_o will_v seem_v to_o make_v a_o doubt_n of_o it_o lib._n 1._o instit_fw-la cap._n 14._o sect_n 7._o psa_fw-la 91._o we_o 90_o 11_o 12._o he_o shall_v give_v his_o angel_n charge_v over_o thou_o to_o keep_v thou_o in_o all_o thy_o way_n they_o shall_v bear_v thou_o up_o in_o their_o hand_n lest_o thou_o dash_v thy_o foot_n against_o a_o stone_n this_o very_a passage_n s._n cyril_n of_o alexandria_n lib._n 4._o cont_n julian_n appli_v to_o our_o angel-keeper_n act_n 12.13_o etc._n etc._n s._n peter_n knock_v at_o the_o door_n they_o say_v it_o be_v his_o angel_n lo_o how_o apparent_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n appear_v concern_v this_o point_n see_v more_o 1_o cor._n 11.10_o zachary_n 3.10_o luke_n 15.10_o luke_n 16.22_o tob._n 5.15.20_o tob._n 12.12_o tob._n 5.27_o exod._n 23.23_o joshue_n 5.13_o nun._n 22.22.31_o gen._n 24.40_o dan._n 9.22_o ¶_o see_v s._n greg._n dial_n 4._o cap._n 58._o s._n athanas_n do_v communi_fw-la essentia_fw-la s._n chrysost_o hom_n 3._o in_o ep_n ad_fw-la colos_n lib._n 6._o the_o sacerd_v greg._n turonens_fw-la lib._n de_fw-fr gloria_fw-la mart_n s._n aug._n ep_v ad_fw-la probam_fw-la cap._n 9_o and_o epist_n 69._o ad_fw-la fratres_fw-la in_o eremo_fw-la lib._n 11._o cap._n 31._o civet_n s._n hier._n upon_o these_o word_n their_o angel_n etc._n etc._n mat._n 18.10_o teach_v that_o it_o be_v a_o great_a dignity_n and_o marvellous_a benefit_n that_o every_o one_o have_v from_o his_o nativity_n a_o angel_n for_o his_o custody_n and_o patronage_n xxvii_o that_o the_o holy_a angel_n pray_v not_o for_o we_o nor_o know_v our_o thought_n and_o desire_n on_o earth_n contrary_n to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o their_o own_o bible_n zachary_n 1.9.10.11.12_o then_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o lord_n answer_v and_o say_v o_o lord_n of_o host_n how_o long_o will_v thou_o not_o have_v mercy_n on_o jerusalem_n and_o on_o the_o city_n of_o suda_fw-la against_o which_o thou_o have_v have_v indignation_n these_o threescore_o and_o ten_o year_n and_o what_o i_o pray_v you_o be_v a_o prayer_n if_o this_o be_v not_o therefore_o the_o holy_a angel_n pray_v for_o we_o tob._n 12.12_o now_o therefore_o when_o thou_o do_v pray_v and_o sarah_n thy_o daughter-in-law_n i_o do_v bring_v the_o remembrance_n of_o your_o prayer_n before_o the_o holy_a one._n he_o who_o please_v to_o read_v the_o whole_a chapter_n shall_v clear_o see_v the_o manifold_a benefit_n beside_o this_o one_o which_o man_n receive_v at_o the_o hand_n of_o angel_n for_o which_o see_v the_o annotation_n of_o the_o catholic_n bible_n upon_o this_o place_n revel_v 8.4_o and_o the_o smoke_n of_o the_o incense_v of_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n ascend_v from_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o angel_n before_o god_n what_o can_v be_v possible_o speak_v more_o plain_a to_o prove_v that_o angel_n offer_v up_o prayer_n before_o god_n yea_o this_o very_a place_n be_v so_o understand_v by_o s._n irenaeus_n l._n 4._o cap._n 34._o towards_o the_o end_n see_v more_o gen._n 19.18.19.20_o dan._n 8.15_o dan._n 9.20_o acts._n 5.19_o ¶_o see_v also_o s._n hilary_n in_o psal_n 129._o who_o say_v the_o intercession_n of_o angel_n god_n nature_n need_v not_o but_o our_o infirmity_n do_v s._n amb._n lib._n de_fw-fr viduis_fw-la victor_n utic_a lib._n 3._o de_fw-la persecut_fw-la vandal_n xxviii_o that_o we_o may_v not_o pray_v to_o they_o contrary_n to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o their_o own_o bible_n gen._n 48.16_o the_o angel_n which_o redeem_v i_o we_o read_v deliver_v i_o from_o all_o evil_a bless_v these_o lad_n etc._n etc._n here_o some_o perhaps_o will_v say_v that_o this_o be_v god_n and_o not_o a_o angel_n this_o be_v but_o a_o sorry_a shift_n for_o god_n have_v not_o then_o redeem_v man_n but_o long_o after_o yea_o this_o very_a passage_n be_v apply_v by_o s._n chrysost_n to_o our_o angel-gardian_n hom_n 3._o upon_o the_o 1._o to_o the_o colos_n and_o by_o s._n hierom_n upon_o the_o 66._o of_o isa_n also_o s._n basil_n l._n 3._o cont_n eunom_fw-la affirm_v that_o this_o be_v speak_v of_o a_o true_a angel_n and_o not_o of_o god_n which_o be_v so_o who_o can_v with_o reason_n say_v he_o pray_v not_o unto_o he_o tob._n 5.16_o and_o when_o his_o son_n have_v prepare_v all_o thing_n for_o the_o journey_n his_o father_n say_v go_v thou_o with_o this_o man_n and_o god_n which_o dwell_v in_o heaven_n prosper_v your_o journey_n and_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n keep_v you_o company_n both_o god_n be_v here_o pray_v unto_o and_o his_o angel_n also_o at_o the_o same_o instant_n say_v god_n prosper_v you_o in_o your_o journey_n and_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n keep_v you_o company_n ose_n 12.4_o yea_o he_o have_v power_n over_o the_o angel_n and_o prevail_v he_o weep_v and_o make_v supplication_n unto_o he_o lo_o what_o be_v plain_a if_o this_o be_v not_o for_o proof_n of_o prayer_n to_o the_o bless_a angel_n but_o some_o perhaps_o will_v say_v i_o can_v be_v persuade_v to_o pray_v to_o angel_n if_o i_o can_v assure_v myself_o that_o they_o can_v hear_v i_o and_o know_v what_o pass_v here_o on_o earth_n to_o this_o i_o answer_v likewise_o out_o of_o their_o own_o bible_n luke_n 15.10_o there_o be_v joy_n in_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n over_o one_o sinner_n that_o repent_v now_o what_o more_o plain_a than_o that_o the_o angel_n in_o heaven_n know_v what_o we_o do_v on_o earth_n which_o if_o they_o do_v not_o how_o can_v they_o tejoyce_v at_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o sinner_n therefore_o we_o may_v pray_v lawful_o unto_o they_o see_v more_o hos_fw-la 12.4_o song_n of_o the_o three_o child_n vers_fw-la 36._o psal_n 14.8_o num._n 22.34_o gen._n 19.18.19.20_o psal_n 148.2_o ¶_o s._n augustine_n expound_v those_o word_n of_o job._n 19.21_o have_v pity_n upon_o i_o have_v pity_n upon_o i_o o_o you_o my_o friend_n for_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n have_v touch_v i_o say_v express_o that_o holy_a job_n address_v they_o to_o the_o angel_n as_o also_o those_o other_o of_o job_n 5.1_o call_v now_o if_o there_o be_v any_o that_o will_v answer_v thou_o etc._n etc._n the_o same_o s._n aug._n expound_v of_o pray_v to_o angel_n in_o his_o annot._n upon_o job_n protestant_n hold_v xxix_o that_o the_o angel_n can_v help_v we_o contrary_n to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o their_o own_o bible_n dan._n 10.13_o michael_n one_o of_o the_o chief_a prince_n come_v to_o help_v i_o which_o be_v further_o verify_v revel_v 12.7.10_o where_o the_o selfsame_a angel_n with_o his_o fellow_n angel_n seek_v a_o battle_n with_o the_o dragon_n and_o with_o his_o angel_n therefore_o they_o can_v help_v we_o ibid._n vers_fw-la 21._o and_o there_o be_v none_o that_o hold_v with_o i_o in_o these_o thing_n but_o michael_n your_o prince_n therefore_o the_o angel_n can_v help_v we_o act_n 12._o from_o verse_n 7._o to_o verse_n 12._o now_o i_o know_v of_o a_o surety_n that_o the_o lord_n have_v send_v his_o angel_n and_o have_v deliver_v i_o see_v more_o mat._n 2.13_o mat._n 4.6_o ps_n 91._o we_o 90_o 11_o 12._o act._n 5.19_o act._n 27.23_o psa_fw-la 104._o we_o 103._o 4._o heb._n 1.7_o luke_n 16.22_o gen._n 19.10_o 15_o 16._o gen._n 2.17_o isa_n 63.9_o ¶_o the_o ancient_a father_n affirm_v the_o same_o s._n justtn_n apol._n 2._o s._n amb._n lib._n dâ—_n vid._n victor_n vticens_fw-la l._n 3._o de_fw-la per_fw-la sec_fw-la v_o and._n and_o s._n aug._n the_o civet_n l._n 12._o c._n 31._o say_v the_o holy_a angel_n do_v help_v we_o without_o all_o difficulty_n because_o with_o their_o spiritual_a motion_n pure_a and_o free_a they_o labour_v or_o travel_v not_o again_o in_o psa_n 62._o he_o say_v the_o angel_n wait_v upon_o we_o pilgrim_n and_o by_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n do_v help_v we_o the_o place_n begin_v attendunt_fw-la nos_fw-la peregrinos_fw-la xxx_o that_o no_o saint_n deccase_v have_v afterward_o appear_v to_o any_o upon_o earth_n contrary_n to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o their_o own_o bible_n matth._n 17.3_o and_o behold_v there_o appear_v unto_o they_o moses_n and_o elias_n talk_v with_o they_o therefore_o saint_n deecase_v have_v afterward_o appear_v to_o some_o on_o earth_n matth._n 27.52_o and_o the_o grave_n be_v open_v and_o many_o body_n of_o saint_n which_o sleep_v arise_v and_o come_v out_o of_o the_o grave_n after_o his_o resurrection_n and_o go_v into_o the_o holy_a city_n and_o
be_v to_o be_v note_v which_o clear_o make_v for_o the_o proof_n of_o purgatory_n the_o one_o that_o in_o this_o place_n where_o christ_n be_v there_o be_v certain_a sorrow_n and_o pain_n the_o other_o that_o some_o there_o be_v inflict_v for_o sin_n upon_o who_o he_o bestow_v that_o gracious_a benefit_n as_o to_o discharge_v and_o free_v they_o of_o those_o pain_n for_o as_o the_o rheims_n testament_n very_o well_o note_n christ_n be_v not_o in_o pain_n himself_o but_o lose_v other_o man_n out_o of_o their_o pain_n 1_o cor._n 15.29_o otherwise_o what_o shall_v they_o do_v that_o be_v baptize_v for_o the_o dead_a from_o this_o place_n a_o evident_a proof_n be_v draw_v touch_v the_o help_n which_o the_o soul_n depart_v out_o of_o this_o world_n may_v receive_v by_o the_o church_n on_o earth_n and_o consequent_o prove_v purgatory_n understand_v the_o pain_n and_o affliction_n which_o voluntary_o we_o do_v inflict_v upon_o ourselves_o to_o exempt_v those_o that_o be_v therein_o for_o to_o baptize_v signify_v to_o afflict_v one_o self_n to_o do_v penance_n to_o suffer_v death_n etc._n etc._n as_o be_v evident_a in_o s._n luke_n 12.30_o but_o i_o have_v a_o baptism_n to_o be_v baptize_v with_o and_o mark_v 10.38_o luke_n 16.9_o and_o i_o say_v unto_o you_o make_v to_o yourselves_o friend_n of_o the_o mammon_n of_o unrighteousness_n that_o when_o you_o fail_v they_o may_v receive_v you_o into_o everlasting_a habitation_n s._n ambrose_n upon_o this_o place_n and_o s._n aug._n lib._n 21._o de_fw-la civet_fw-la dei_fw-la cap._n 27._o say_v that_o it_o be_v to_o receive_v succour_n after_o death_n according_a as_o the_o word_n fail_v enforce_v luke_n 23.42_o lord_n remember_v i_o when_o thou_o come_v into_o thy_o kingdom_n s._n august_n say_v in_o his_o five_o book_n against_o julian_n about_o the_o midst_n that_o the_o good_a thief_n in_o this_o prayer_n presuppose_a that_o according_a to_o the_o common_a opinion_n soul_n may_v be_v holpen_v after_o death_n 2_o mac._n 12.44_o 45._o for_o if_o he_o have_v not_o hope_v that_o they_o that_o be_v slay_v shall_v have_v rise_v again_o it_o have_v be_v superfluous_a and_o vain_a to_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a and_o in_o the_o next_o verse_n he_o conclude_v that_o it_o be_v a_o holy_a and_o good_a thought_n etc._n etc._n this_o place_n of_o holy_a scripture_n be_v most_o clear_a for_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a for_o have_v it_o not_o be_v the_o continual_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n to_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a neither_o can_v judas_n macchabaeus_n who_o be_v himself_o a_o priest_n have_v ever_o think_v of_o any_o such_o remedy_n as_o to_o gather_v twelve_o thousand_o drachm_n of_o silver_n to_o send_v to_o jerusalem_n to_o have_v prayer_n make_v for_o the_o relief_n of_o the_o soul_n slay_v in_o the_o war_n neither_o will_v the_o multitude_n of_o people_n have_v either_o contribute_v or_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o temple_n receive_v the_o same_o and_o they_o think_v as_o these_o man_n do_v that_o it_o have_v be_v superstition_n to_o pray_v for_o the_o depart_v or_o that_o there_o have_v be_v no_o other_o place_n than_o the_o hell_n of_o the_o damn_a or_o the_o heaven_n of_o the_o save_v see_v more_o 2_o tim._n 1.18_o 1._o john_n 5.16_o isa_n 4.4_o isa_n 9.18_o act_n 24._o mat._n 3.11_o mat._n 12.32_o mat._n 5.26_o micheas_n 7.8_o psal_n 66.12_o toby_z 4.18_o philip._n 2.10_o zach._n 9.11_o ¶_o as_o also_o the_o father_n that_o affirm_v the_o same_o s._n ambr._n upon_o the_o 1_o cor._n 3._o &_o serm_n 20._o in_o psal_n 118._o s._n hier._n lib._n 2._o cap._n 13._o advers._fw-la jovin_n s._n greg._n liâ—_n 4._o dialog_n cap._n 39_o origen_n hom_n 6._o in_o cap._n 15._o exod._n with_o many_o other_o xlviii_o that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o make_v or_o have_v image_n contrary_n to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o their_o own_o bible_n exod._n 25.18_o and_o thou_o shall_v make_v two_o cherubim_n of_o god_n of_o beat_a work_n shall_v thou_o make_v they_o in_o the_o two_o 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