Selected quad for the lemma: prayer_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
prayer_n	form_n	minister_n	set_a	2,081	5	10.7228	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A54015	A modest detection of George Keith's (miscalled) Just vindication of his earnest expostulation published by him as a pretended answer to a late book of mine, entituled, Some brief observations, &c. By E.P.	Penington, Edward, 1667-1701.	1696 (1696)	Wing P1144; ESTC R220367	34,038	60

he for his 'till he Reply thereto In the next Place he labours to palliate the Contradictions I charged upon him relating to the different Characters given both of the Episcopal Clergy and Dissenting Ministers in his former Books to what he gives them in his Expostulation but therein he useth such poor Evasive Shifts as shew he is hard put to it He would fain reconcile them or at least seem so to do that 's his Drift he 's loath to have it thought that George contradicts Keith but all his Daubing won't serve 't is untempered Mortar he useth that won't stick and so the Crack becomes wider than it was before I urged Quotations out of three of his Books viz. 1. Help in Time of Need. 2. Way cast up 3. Presbyterian and Independent Visible Churches of these he takes Notice only of the first saying For which he citeth some Passages in a Book of mine called Help in Time of Need Printed above thirty Years ago As if I had quoted nothing out of any other Books of his upon this Subject but withal let him take Notice that 's within these thirty three Years consequently they either much changed for the better or else he much for the worse since Now though I am at my Liberty to quote passages out of any Book of his to disprove his following Evasions yet that he may see his own weapon turned against himself in this Point now in Debate I shall confine my self to this one Book having Proof enough and to spare from thence to drive him out of his subterfuges He begins his Matter thus But none of these Passages prove that I did judge there were none among them all Church of England and Dissenters Pious and Learned for indeed I was never so uncharitable This Man who will needs Print Books had need to go to School to learn that from particulars to the Vniversal the Consequence is not good Answ What if he had not said they were universally bad so as to include every individual yet I do affirm his Words extend far beyond Particulars even to the Generality yea to so great a Majority as falls very little short of Universal as may be seen in Help in Time of Need p. 36 37. Where taxing the Ministers with Preaching up that then in 1664. which they had preached down three or four Years before adds Which breeds no small Admiration to poor People as if they had changed their God but I know well generally they have kept their God all along very constantly among all their Changes being such the Apostle mentions GENERALLY whose God is their Belly and this Master they have served and do serve very faithfully making every Change answer its desire Here 's a Charge upon Ministers GENERALLY which how consistent it is with true PIETY needs no Comment Again p. 29. Now Judas fell from his Ministry as saith the Scripture in selling his Master which GENERALLY your Ministers have done and have they not thereby fallen from their Ministry supposing but not granting they had once been true Ministers This is general again as inconsistent with Piety as the other but this is not all see p. 24 25. And were not the set Forms of Prayer cryed down also in Scotland as lifeless barren things and the Service Book denied and now ye have again licked up that Vomit and through your Cities Men set up MOSTLY also SCANDALOUS in their Conversations at such Hours of the Day or Night to read a set Form of Prayer And is there any material Difference between this and the Service Book And have not your BRETHREN IN ENGLAND taken it up again And when it 's offered to you to read will ye not also do the like There is no Question of it but MOST of you will and WORSE also when ye are put to Tryal Again p. 75. And that whereon there is so much stress laid to wit the calling of the People or Patrons is NOT OF GOD but of Babylon for in the State they are in they will be loath ever to call a good Man unto them SUPPOSING HE COULD BE FOUND but such who will wink at their Faults and run with them thereinto Well to conclude this Point I shall give one Instance more and that is in p. 35 36. viz. And were it not for a livelyhood and worldly Honour and Respect would SO MANY betake themselves to such a Work And does not your gain from your quarter which you so punctually Exact and they that will not put into your Mouths ye prepare War against them and your removing from one Parish to another where ye can have a fatter Stipend manifestly prove ye are moved thereto rather from a Principle of Covetousness then from any desire of doing good to the Souls of the People And how came MANY of you to be Teachers Was it not the design of your Fathers and Relations who saw it a ready way for them to put you in a way of Livelihood and sent you to Schools to learn the Calling as ever the Shooemaker or other Tradesman past his Apprentiship and then becomes free to use the Trade The thing is well known and I speak it with regret and have not many of your selves some time a Day intreated the Lord that he would send a Purge and put away out of his House such BUYERS and SELLERS and now the Lord is come to make the Purge and who of you can abide the Day of his coming The Purge goes so deep it 's like to scourge you ALL out of Doors and e're you be put out ye will rather hold in who are in and seek to uphold one another but ye shall ALL fall together What saiest thou now Reader are these Quotations a Description of PIOUS Men or the contrary Do they refer to Particulars only Here 's in so many Words generally mostly a doubt whether a good Man be to be found amongst them and at last all methinks that should be something a-kin to Vniversal and truly a little unlike his Expostulation which begins thus It may seem strange how it comes to pass that while so many Pious and Learned Men are judged to be found in this Nation not only of the Church of England but among the Dissenters and Nonconformists c. Now I am ready to conclude this contradictory to the former and perhaps some others may do so too he would do well to undeceive us if he can Philosophy is the next point he goes upon he tells us What I said of the Philosophy then taught in the Colledges of that Nation many Learned and Pious Men in both Nations will assent to be true to wit the Jesuit Philosophy for that was it which was then taught and which I learned almost word by word out of Jesuit Authors Answ That Jesuit Philosophy was then and there taught may be true for ought I know I have no reason to contradict him but the question with me is Whether no other Philosophy besides