Selected quad for the lemma: prayer_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
prayer_n	form_n	lawful_a	set_a	2,091	5	11.0014	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A94166	A Christian, sober & plain exercitation on the two grand practicall controversies of these times; infant baptism and singing of psalms Wherein all the scriptures on both sides are recited, opened and argued, with brevity and tenderness: and whatever hath been largely discussed by others, briefly contracted in a special method for the edification of the saints. By Cuthbert Sidenham, teacher to a church of Christ in Newcastle upon Tine.	Sydenham, Cuthbert, 1622-1654.	1653 (1653)	Wing S6291; Thomason E1443_1; ESTC R209635	113,076	235

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yet_o it_o concern_v the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n and_o i_o may_v sing_v they_o as_o a_o member_n of_o the_o same_o body_n and_o sympathize_v with_o they_o either_o in_o sorrow_n or_o joy_n in_o affliction_n or_o triumph_n which_o be_v a_o special_a way_n to_o act_v the_o grace_n of_o saint_n sometime_o to_o sing_v what_o concern_v other_o as_o themselves_o as_o to_o pray_v for_o other_o as_o themselves_o this_o be_v like_o christ_n heart_n in_o heaven_n last_o you_o have_v opportunity_n enough_o to_o choose_v psalm_n for_o your_o emergency_n it_o be_v good_a to_o keep_v the_o harmony_n of_o the_o whole_a body_n in_o the_o main_a ob._n that_o which_o follow_v next_o as_o urge_v against_o